Hey Mark super interesting while I don't go for any practice or ritual, The gateway tapes are way addictive for psyconaughts

I thought it would be a unique opportunity to share my first experience with the possibility of someone on the team seeing it. Yesterday I listened to and participated in tapes 1-3. During tape 2 while my mind was free and light, I was able to experience something I can't explain well. During times when my brain could release it's focus and be free, I could see black and white lights pulsing to the sound of the audio. I felt the pulsing audio keep my mind awake while my body was asleep. During the loudest part of the pulsing audio, the light drew towards the middle of my focus. At one point it was somewhat intense. Almost as if my body didn't want it to happen. My heart was pumping hard, my eyes were twitching some. I remember seeing the bottom of my mind's vision light up with a slight curve. The light was brighter at the bottom. I'm not sure what happened directly after that but my mind was then hyper focused. It seemed as though it was searching for something to focus on but I had nothing. I remember it trying to focus around this colorless light of shapes. I know this sounds cliche but it reminded me of how the eye moved in Lord of the Rings. The tape brought me out of it. This is all very new to me and I'm not sure where to go with it. I was distracted during tape 3 and didn't work.

I visited the website but wasn't able to "join" or create a login, I was just asked to sign in with my credentials as if I was a member already, is there something wrong with the page?

@markcerto8848 I’m listening with great interest to your interview, Mark (thank you so much for speaking with Jen on this subject), but had to pop down here to tell you that you would make a fantastic audio book narrator. Tone, rhythm, and balance seems to be your gift. 💗

⁠@@ihaveseensuchthingsI agree. I love Mark’s voice when I listened to him on expanding on consciousness podcast.

I didn't know it was out of body experience until I encounter gateway experience and meditate using such tapes. Til then I have come to realize I had OBE since I was 10 or 11 😅, at that time family couldn't understand what I tried to explain and took me to mental hospital for kinda scanning brain test 😂. But nothing figured out. By the way, it seems I was experiencing such things in previous life - so then this lifetime I do meditation intensely at very young age. And few recent days, I encounter Gateway experience tapes - feeling energy shifted so strong... Can't wait to experience further more ❤.

We may miss the physical interaction and sensation in this realm. Or maybe not.

Great comment 👍

You just described me. I don't know about that gateway stuff tho i only looked at the comments. But i also have that sesitivity. Ok... soo... a couple days ago i woke up at night and a young boy was lying face to face with me. He touched my face and i could feel every sensation. I said "you scare me". He was gone. Later i woke up again to the same scenario. He kissed me on the cheek and said "i love you". Confused as i was i said "i love you too but go into the light" (probably a pretty dumb thing to say). It just left me confused. It was 100% real to me and i had this all my life. OBEs when i was a child. Seeing shadow people move. I don't know man... anyways... i usually don't share that.

YES! Me too! ❤

Jen is a very good interviewer. :-)

OMG it’s true Jenn quietly nods and confirms understanding through her eyebrows and eyes. Thank you for pointing that out. Brian Scott is awesome like that as well. Yay Jk Ultra!

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Can u tell us how to start this , just confused, or suggest any videos for the guide

@@Helpmetoget Do a search on google for How to use the Gateway process and you will find your answer. But Basically start from the first tape and follow the instructions...

@@Helpmetogethe is still working …., sound like nothing change in his life with this experience…..

I've been using the tapes but find it difficult to get to Focus 10 despite repeating the tape many, many times. Will keep trying though and hopefully it comes in time.

Tom helped Bob create Hemi-Sync ver.1.0. The Gateway experience was created later. I re-produced it in the 90's with HS 3.0

That is awesome! Thanks for the input. I love this stuff!!!!!

How

Joeseph McMoneagle is still alive as well. Hal Putoff. Others I’m failing to remember off the top of my head. What is the difference?

​@@markcerto8848If you had to introduce a newcomer to the practice, would you tell them to start with...? What exactly should I start with, bobs old recordings are still out there so I'm not sure if I should go through that or your new videos.

I look forward to going to the Monroe Inst. Can you tell me a little more about the course you attended ? Time of year, cost etc ?

What made it different from following the tapes at home?

@@MagneticMan369 the group dynamics, meeting some of the group on the astral plane, having the same visions, feeling deep love for everyone

@@MagneticMan369 you are doing about 5 sessions a day, you don't have any interruptions, there is an energy in Virginia. It could be a portal now. It's important to use Hemi-Sync before you go so you don't sleep the first couple days awake. Like Mark mentions you want your body to be asleep while your mind is awake.

i jjust met him this afternoon on the plane. He said he didnt recall meeting you.

Why crying ?

@@guynorrad That's funny because I met him and he said he didn't meet you 🤡

@@guynorrad I just met you in the astral this morning. Bob said it never happened tho

@@guynorrad 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

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Thank you. Take your time with the exercises in level one, but for someone interested in the topic, you might find level two or three more to your liking. The first step is to become proficient in exploring and maintaining awareness in the hypnagogic state. The next step is to explore it. The third is to learn to use it.

@@markcerto8848 will people who are deaf in one ear be able to utilize your program successfully?

How has your experience been this far?

I had it twice, one flying to the roof of the house and the second to the atmosphere, I was able to see the circumference of the earth, the sensation of peace and love in that moment was unique, since then I wasn't able to experience that

But wouldn't this platform be the place to share? Most are here because we are open to this type of experience. Share your experience with others.

Glad you enjoyed it. I did too.

What did you see?

I was in a room and I was in an unknown building and I knew I was not in my physical form, so I panicked and woke myself@@ragnakak

It does help to have a plan, but exploration is valid as well. I'll look forward to working with you.

@markcerto8848 Hi, I'm new to the Gateway Experience but interested in the metaphysical. I really enjoyed your talk. I wanted to tell you how impressed I am with how you engage with the commenters here. I'll be exploring your website for more info. Thanks for the interview Jen, I'll be following you for more great content!

@@bienerbina4555 Welcome. There is a lot of need for serous discussion IMHO. This interview with Jen is just the beginning. :-)

Thank you Amy. I'll look forward to working with you.

Have you had an OBE yet? I'm just wondering, I'm still exploring focus 10

It has many uses. All dependent on the one who is doing the work. 🙂

Human plus wave 8 shamanic heart creative way network of light there learning programs and others have all been an enjoyable part of our journy.

I’ve been doing them for 20 sessions .. pleasant but otherwise nothing 😢

Can you provide me the authentic source of the audio of the gateway tapes.

Quite welcome. Thanks for listeninig.

Don't be ignorant. People appreciate this information NOW and are practicing such information NOW i.e. CE5 practice and experience. Don't be so quick to label the collective and compare it to your own self indulged, self induced, diluted ignorance and level of sub-zero conscious and awareness. It is much further then that of what you judge it otherwise to be. 🙄 In fact, I wouldn't put it passed ya being a baby boomer with such claims and saying as much with such a matter-of-fact joyful confidence....this is very typical of that generation to do such a thing, they are NOTORIOUS for being such a way and this is the ONLY way they know how to be. One track mindedness. A very primitive way to operate and think. It is using the primitive reptilian brain part of your brain. Thinking they know EVERY thing but in all actuality, know absolutely nothing at all. Most of that generation has spent their entire lives living their lives completely wrong, submersed-in and marinated-in PROFOUND ignorance and cannot be told anything different. Your comment is so far left field it's out there. This is way too common of a train of thought it's absolutely destroyed this realm in leaps and bounds ULTIMATELY and it's a shame. It's sad. It's this same generation in which has become the ultimate demise and total end of the entire cycle of collective this time around and it's absolutely disgusting. To be the epitome of the destruction of an age of humanity is NOTHING to be proud of. 😮‍💨😑😒🙄😞😾🖤👍🏽👎🏽🙎🏽PITIFUL. You all have ANNIHILATED the entire realm leaving NOTHING for my generation or any generations of the "future" for that matter. Not to mention the other alien species all throughout this realm inclusing all the surrounding realms outside of this one. You've not only affected the generations after yours but the surrounding realms worth of millions of other species as well! There is no future BECAUSE of that generation! There is no qualitative amount to that generation to suffice for the quantity of irreparable damage already done and continuing to be done! As a matter of fact, statistics hold and maintain to be true that anyone born after the year 1980 will NOT live to see beyond the lives of their parents. That in fact, they just may die BEFORE their parents due to all the damage and poisoning done to their organs and bodies, (don't get me started on mother nature and the damage shes endured and incurred by the lot of ya. I mean, just look at our oceans! Their done for! Bees don't exist anymore. There's fake mosquitos just handing out poison like it's grocery store freebies and samples for ALL! That's nothing! You should see what they've done to the "pyramids" in Egypt and all the TRASH! With the audacity to blame MY generation for all of it! The absolute NERVE!), my generations parents and grandparents who are *drum roll please!* that of the baby boomer generation themselves. And so I thank you, for NOTHING. It's been great living my life, quite a joy ride being your flinkies, fall guys and slaves to a system that does nothing but LIE after lie dancing all around your generation, to simply die young in the end anyway. Driven into the ground with nothing to show for it but depression, grief and most of our childhood friends dead due to your old man wars and deep seeded, rooted depression caused suicide due to your old man ignorant ways ROYALLY affecting our generation a trillion fold. Absolutely wonderful 👍🏽 Thank you for absolutely NOTHING at all but despair and misery with no alternative to see otherwise, with no way out and no light at the end of the tunnel just death well on its way and absolutely positively with NO-WAY-OUT. Most certainly that generation has also done quite a number on the generation that's come after minE as well. With all the sex changes going on, you all ought to be BEYOND ashamed of yourselves. Pushing such an agenda on CHILDREN. Your all worse then slime of the sewers. You should all be recycled, thrown into the fire to be thrown back to the beginning of creation to start over again back to single celled organism because you all have seriously done BEYOND quite a number on everyone and everything so much so to the point that it begs to question who your Father really is and if your maker is the same as everyone else's. Because you all are quite a different breed compared to the rest of the collective cycles. It's almost as though you've been planted by Satan himself. Hitler hasn't caused as much damage as that generation has. It's absolutely incredible what baby boomers have done to creation it's mind blowing. Forgive me for running on a tangent here but you've got some NERVE with no foundation to stand upon with such a simple statement as yours to spill on the platform for everyone to chew on and question. Pfft go figure... 🙄 My GOD help us all PLEASE for the love of GOD WHY must the abuse and sabotaging continue WHY. It almost feels as though we've all been forsaken by you GOD it's just that fckin bad! And now comments like THIS. NO we're not that short minded that it'll take us all a whole fckin DECADE from now to recognize and appreciate what's common sense energy for us in which we've all been born with! Unfortunately and unlike your generation, whom more then likely wasn't born with any sense, if any at all in there exists. I'm sorry I'm not sorry but, Rant over. Forgive me everyone, I am however sorry to all of you. But I take offense to such ignorance as this anymore now and it's just straight up intolerable anymore and just plain inexcusable. 🥺😢😖😣😞 Oh yeah, 🤣 that is, if your not just one of that generations many many BOTS on here to stear everyone in the manipulated direction your generation wants everyone else to go in. 😂 I nearly forgot about that one. Oh how lovely of me. Isn't that wonderful I almost forgot a ticking time bomb of yours. Not to mention all your NPCs you all put out there via tiktok as of late 😂 it's so much shite it's nearly become a joke anymore now. Lizard people secretly running the government conspiracies running rampant. Mandella effects running wild like girls gone wild out here JUST so you can change the future HISTORY for our children and their children's children so they don't know what you did to OUR generation and so you can repeat your B's you did to us, to them. GETTTT the fck outta here with all your bs man I am DONE. Just so you know, we see you, we know who you are, we know what you've done and been doing and your plans are more then obvious. Me thinks your all losing your touch me thinks it so! Can't fool those who are, since before birth, AWAKENED, bright eyed and bushy tailed, waiting, waiting. One day SOON our day will come. We now hide behind your names in lights silently watching. Know that. Ya self centered materialistic blinded by your own 'dark emitting diodes.' (ya we know about those too, your sly asz DEDs up in your fake asz cloud systems. Storm clouds never looked so fake. ) 🙄 Fools. If you all wanna know who the true ones are that are awake before that title too was stolen from us and given to their sex transgender crazed and confused CHILDREN, it was us 80s and 90s babies. Mm kay? Mmkay 👍🏽 yeah. Thanks for that one too by the way. We appreciate it VERY MUCH!

Don't be ignorant. People appreciate this information NOW and are practicing such information NOW i.e. CE5 practice and experience. Don't be so quick to label the collective and compare it to your own self indulged, self induced ignorance and level of conscious and awareness. It is much further then that of what you judge it otherwise to be. 🙄 In fact, I wouldn't put it passed ya being a baby boomer with such claims and saying as much with such a matter-of-fact joyful confidence....this is very typical of that generation to do such a thing, they are NOTORIOUS for being such a way and this is the ONLY way they know how to be. One track mindedness. A very primitive way to operate and think. It is using the primitive reptilian brain part of your brain. Thinking they know EVERY thing but in all actuality, know absolutely nothing at all. Most of that generation has spent their entire lives living their lives completely wrong, submersed-in and marinated-in PROFOUND ignorance and cannot be told anything different. Your comment is so far left field it's out there. This is way too common of a train of thought it's absolutely destroyed this realm in leaps and bounds ULTIMATELY and it's a shame. It's sad. It's this same generation in which has become the ultimate demise and total end of the entire cycle of collective this time around and it's absolutely disgusting. To be the epitome of the destruction of an age of humanity is NOTHING to be proud of. 😮‍💨😑😒🙄😞😾🖤👍🏽👎🏽🙎🏽PITIFUL. You all have ANNIHILATED the entire realm leaving NOTHING for my generation or any generations of the "future" for that matter. Not to mention the other alien species all throughout this realm inclusing all the surrounding realms outside of this one. You've not only affected the generations after yours but the surrounding realms worth of millions of other species as well! There is no future BECAUSE of that generation! There is no qualitative amount to that generation to suffice for the quantity of irreparable damage already done and continuing to be done! As a matter of fact, statistics hold and maintain to be true that anyone born after the year 1980 will NOT live to see beyond the lives of their parents. That in fact, they just may die BEFORE their parents due to all the damage and poisoning done to their organs and bodies, (don't get me started on mother nature and the damage shes endured and incurred by the lot of ya. I mean, just look at our oceans! Their done for! Bees don't exist anymore. There's fake mosquitos just handing out poison like it's grocery store freebies and samples for ALL! That's nothing! You should see what they've done to the "pyramids" in Egypt and all the TRASH! With the audacity to blame MY generation for all of it! The absolute NERVE!), my generations parents and grandparents who are *drum roll please!* that of the baby boomer generation themselves. And so I thank you, for NOTHING. It's been great living my life, quite a joy ride being your flinkies, fall guys and slaves to a system that does nothing but LIE after lie dancing all around your generation, to simply die young in the end anyway. Driven into the ground with nothing to show for it but depression, grief and most of our childhood friends dead due to your old man wars and deep seeded, rooted depression caused suicide due to your old man ignorant ways ROYALLY affecting our generation a trillion fold. Absolutely wonderful 👍🏽 Thank you for absolutely NOTHING at all but despair and misery with no alternative to see otherwise, with no way out and no light at the end of the tunnel just death well on its way and absolutely positively with NO-WAY-OUT. Most certainly that generation has also done quite a number on the generation that's come after minE as well. With all the sex changes going on, you all ought to be BEYOND ashamed of yourselves. Pushing such an agenda on CHILDREN. Your all worse then slime of the sewers. You should all be recycled, thrown into the fire to be thrown back to the beginning of creation to start over again back to single celled organism because you all have seriously done BEYOND quite a number on everyone and everything so much so to the point that it begs to question who your Father really is and if your maker is the same as everyone else's. Because you all are quite a different breed compared to the rest of the collective cycles. It's almost as though you've been planted by Satan himself. Hitler hasn't caused as much damage as that generation has. It's absolutely incredible what baby boomers have done to creation it's mind blowing. Forgive me for running on a tangent here but you've got some NERVE with no foundation to stand upon with such a simple statement as yours to spill on the platform for everyone to chew on and question. Pfft go figure... 🙄 My GOD help us all PLEASE for the love of GOD WHY must the abuse and sabotaging continue WHY. It almost feels as though we've all been forsaken by you GOD it's just that fckin bad! And now comments like THIS. NO we're not that short minded that it'll take us all a whole fckin DECADE from now to recognize and appreciate what's common sense energy for us in which we've all been born with! Unfortunately and unlike your generation, whom more then likely wasn't born with any sense, if any at all in there exists. I'm sorry I'm not sorry but, Rant over. Forgive me everyone, I am however sorry to all of you. But I take offense to such ignorance as this anymore now and it's just straight up intolerable anymore and just plain inexcusable. 🥺😢😖😣😞 🙏🏽

Glad it inspired. There is a real magic in life that is explored through consciousness. :-)

I do take a very slow and methodical approach. That is why level three is a six month study course. I have found that slow steady steps help with the integration process of the content had in altered states. Integration keeps one from delusion or state chasing. Hope you'll join in one day. It will be nice to meet and work with you. Mark

Thank you for the kind words.

I got to the state of buzzing and then felt like my chest was being pulled upward. That scared me right out of the experience. Never could get back to that state. BUT, the curse of it seems to be that my mind stays awake most nights while my body sleeps. I do seems to be able to think and concentrate about problems during the night and get an idea of what to do. I guess the old saying of "sleep on it" comes from that. I also am a musician and get music and lyrics that come to me sometimes all night. I thought I was going crazy until I watched an interview between two studio engineers and they talked about the fact that some artists only want to work during the night as they seem to be much more creative. That was very reassuring to me that what I experience is a real thing. I have to add that in no way can I control it.

Buzzing is the authentic sign of the beginning of the process. Know that you won’t die and that you must allow for the natural process to continue without retraction. Also seeking to “get back “to states experienced prior will potentially deter one from proceeding as all experiences must be had a fresh and a new without any “grasping “for prior experiences. Essentially let go and then keep letting go. There are so much cultural conditioning and hoopla that tries to tell a person that yhey will surely die, but you will always return back to the physical as desired

I agree. Having an OBE conscious or otherwise does not make one a better person. It does alleviate the primal fear of death however if well integrated. The content experienced in an OBE if explored can also bring about major paradigm and belief system shifts if integrated. I such cases, that can make people more aware and thus, a more compassionate person. Often times, that requires a bit of shadow work. :-)

Great point about the need for integration (also shadow work). Incredible that you’re doing this work Mark, and thanks for the great interview! I’m so thrilled that Bob’s work has become so much more accessible these days.

Glad you enjoyed it.

She did a great job. :-)

You are a complete liar dude

Thanks for listening.

Same exact feelings friend, same

The pleasure would be mine Clara. If you decide to sign up for level 3, I'll make sure to include you in the coming Obervances. We meet every Sunday for 10 weeks to work the program as a group where I will be the tour guide. Hope you will join in. -Mark

Thank you for the kind words. Take your time with the exercises in level one, but for someone interested in the topic, you might find level two or three more to your liking. The first step is to become proficient in exploring and maintaining awareness in the hypnagogic state. The next step is to explore it. The third is to learn to use it.

Quite welcome. Thanks for listening.

Jen did a great job. :-)

Thank you. I'll look forward to working with you.

Thank you. Knowing you are more than physical is a good first step. Once you know, the question then becomes; now what? Consciousness and energy are linked. I say, Use both wisely. :-) IYKYK

@@markcerto8848 Hi Mark, this was a great talk! I got into the Gateway experience via tapes in early 2000, so amazing. I also attend the Ramtha school and Ramtha teaches the concept of" Consciousness and Energy create the nature of reality", just right how you understand it. So many parallels here... Thanks for your great work 🙂

One big barrier you need to cross is to not have expectations. You need self discipline and an open mind when starting, or you will quickly loose interest. The Gateway Experience is paradoxical in nature. Your desire to explore intensifies as you become more willing to release any attachment to results. Once you start to master the techniques, you will then be able to do some amazing things, and not even need the audio.

@@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths Understand. I have been using a light and sound Hemi Sync mind machine, David Paradise, for over 20 years now, and it builds all that. Connecting neurons that are not normally connected I think, so yes, it is a BIG journey. I really feel and see the difference in my personal development and in particular spiritual understanding. And, the OOBE's are a bonus that I love and enjoy. Rob Monroe was a big inspiration.

Bingo! Well said

And the conversation continues my friend. 🙂

Glad it could inspire inquiry.

Agreed. I don't know why those words were chosen, but it doesn't matter really. Nothing to refute. I think what Jen meant to say was that I am old school. :-) I am not the last living survivor of anything. :-) The Gateway program is just something that I reproduced while Bob was alive. We improved on the H.S signals and production techniques. By the time I got involved, the Stargate program was declassified and the CIA interface was already done. To be clear, there is a lot to this mystery of how consciousness and energy are related.

You're welcome.

If it were, could you imagine the potential? :-)

I wish so much this was taught to me at school or just generally as a kid. I only found “this” after so much heartbreaks throughout my life, at age 35. It’s like it didn’t even exist before. Where was it? Why didn’t my adults teach me this?

I enjoyed it too. 🙂

Thank you for listening and considering.

Good practice. :-)

Glad you enjoyed it.

Be vigilantly aware of the need to share.

Where can you buy the CDs? I've seen a few people online with them

Hey, do you remember which changes she made? I'm a neuro student who's interested in altered states

Go try to have an out of body experience. This is not something you will find proof of outside experiencing it yourself. I can assure you that you do have the ability to leave your body. I suggest reading "Hacking the out out of body experience, leveraging science to induce obes" by robert d peterson since you are more science orientated. My personal technique is fast for 24 hours, go to bed, set an alarm for 6 hours after shut eye, and then do mind awake body asleep techniques. You want to mantain conscious awareness as you're "falling asleep". But hey, if these experiences wont answer your questions, at least you'll get to experience what flying feels like ;)

These things have been talked about and practiced in ancient religions for years. I'm happy that some people are making efforts to study and quantify these things by scientific means. It's time that introspection enters the modern world without being easily dismissed.

@@jon...5324 I’m ashamed to say I don’t. To be honest I didn’t ascribe too much significance to it at the time. All of us, the doctors- and even experienced and talented Techs just kind of said “ah that’s interesting” and went about our jobs. The only thing I can say is that it occurred at the Cleveland Clinic. My hope is that she was eventually enrolled in a study, but I kind of doubt the funding was available for something like that.

@@jon...5324 what I do remember which may or may not be helpful is that the changes were generalized (whole brain), rhythmic, and totally symmetrical. Can’t remember how fast in Hz the frequency was or if it sped or or slowed down compared to baseline.

Thank you. I've been involved in this conversation about consciousness for a very long time. I take a non nonsense approach to exploring altered states and what the benefits are. A consequence of my training I suspect. I learned from the best. 🙂

Thanks for listening.

Heart and mind coherence is the only effective way to interact with the hologram. :-)

I agree of course. I teach a very slow and steady approach to exploring altered states. Too much too soon can lead to all kinds of schisms, dissociation, state chasing etc. I am not a psychotherapist but I have noticed these trends in my years of working with altered states through meditation practices and believe they need to be addressed. When using mind expanding drugs, the problem can be even worse. Integrating the content of such experiences in the contexts of the life of the individual is key.

Well I smoke DMT and changa a lot...u guys are right ..if people take medium to high dosis...those are just crazy rollercoasters mostly scary.. But me myself I take real real small doses and that allows me to go into a meditative state where I can actually learn a lot

That is a very nice compliment. Thank you. IMO, transcendent experiences are a wonderful gateway towards becoming the light. That said, there is often some shadow work which needs to be attended to as well. The more one does this, the more one can be a container for the light. Shine on. :-)

lol we can thank Mark for that!

@@jkultra We are a team Jen. :-)

Thank you. Very kind. I have been at this a for a long time. My old friends call me a veritable source of useless information. :-) The people who enjoy the subject of consciousness have another view. 🙂