Exhaust Pipe Expander that Actually WORKS!!! Hydraulic Conversion DTR SHOP HACK Fabricated Exhaust

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3 жыл бұрын

This is a must have if you build your own exhaust systems using mandrel bends, or even a handy tool for repairing exhaust systems. I wish I would have came up with this LONG ago!!
Check this out. Vevor already makes this with an air over hydraulic pump. s.vevor.com/bfP8y7
Here's the 2 tools needed to make this. No modifications to either tool required.
‪@LisleCorporation‬ Exhaust Pipe Expander-- amzn.to/3sbReBA
Hydraulic knockout kit used--- www.harborfreight.com/hydraul...
Alternative cheap knockout kit that looks like it would also work on amazon... -- amzn.to/2VIGgIk
Here is the required hose if you would like to power this by an air over hydraulic pump instead of the manual pump amzn.to/3HxsMTD
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@whammys Ай бұрын

Awesome. I have both a knockout punch tool and the Lisle expander by chance. Glad your video popped up. Thank you!

@DeathTollRacing Ай бұрын

Right on!

@MrGsxr10001 10 күн бұрын

I gotta say, I'm 64 and I've put pipes on a bunch of cars over the years and as best I can remember no one has ever got under my car or truck and said the pipes didn't look up to their standards and if they had I would have laugh in their face. If the pipe fits it fits........

@rustusandroid 2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY what I needed to know! Great video, thanks :)

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positivity! Glad it helped!

@PGG909 3 ай бұрын

SUPER bad ass! I'll be buying this set up. Great video and thanks.

@DeathTollRacing 3 ай бұрын

Do!!! I use this soooo much.

@fryreartechnology7611 3 жыл бұрын

That's really awesome! I use to use one for pressing conveyor bearing out while pressing the new one in all at the se time at my old job. There are very handy tools and can do so much more then knock out holes.

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. So handy! Actually really well built too. At least so far anyway. Now it's probably self destructing as I type this....

@fryreartechnology7611 3 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing knock on wood quick!

@bertbrayden1 3 жыл бұрын

Great hack thanks alot fair play to you. I just damaged my one now all I have to do is shorten it that's great thanks.

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@bryco32 3 жыл бұрын

If you want to use the HF style tool but not have it the full length of the spreader down the tube you can cut a short piece of tubing as a sacrificial piece and use it to cover the rest of the die sitting outside of the pipe you are expanding . This will keep consistent pressure over the length of the HF spreader and allow you to only expand a shorter section of the pipe you need opened up.

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

I tried that and it was still the problem of the threads not being strong enough to do it. Or maybe your talking 1” in the tube and 1” sacrificial piece on the opposite side and empty dies in the center? 🤔. I’d try it, but I already ruined my hf one.

@joell439 3 жыл бұрын

This is a super useful hack. Those HF power packs have so many uses. Thank you! Hang in there, your content is over the top. Congratulations on the Earth Day delivery. That TRX is definitely raptor killer.

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

I think this is one of the best ones I've come up with so far. It's going to be a tough one to beat.

@TBR-z 4 ай бұрын

Hi, it looks great. I need to lap joint two Stainless Steel 3 inch OD exhaust pipes. You think this is strong enough to stretch one?@@DeathTollRacing

@DeathTollRacing 4 ай бұрын

@@TBR-z I use it on stainless all the time, but with a air over hydraulic pump instead of the hand pump. The manual pump is rough with stainless over 2 1/2”. They also make bigger manual pumps.

@StraightLineCycles 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Might have to do my own exhaust. Awesome info!

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I made that years ago. It is so nice!

@PNW_Car_Mods 9 ай бұрын

Revisiting this once again DTR. Getting ready to build a scratch made exhaust system for my LS swapped Ford Ranger. The Collectors off of the shorty headers are going to have to be pie cut butt welds but once fully under the truck it will be game on! This will make it so much better.

@DeathTollRacing 9 ай бұрын

Yes it will! I’m going to have to check out your channel for this ranger. Somehow I missed that!

@PNW_Car_Mods 9 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I ordered one of the amazon copies of the lisle kit last night. It has good reviews so I am hoping it will work just as well. We'll know shortly. :)

@nikhill6917 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about the lack of success of the Safari build. I still think your early videos are amazing in the detail they show. Really looking forward to the Geo Tracker project.

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the fab stuff was fun to be more detailed with. This part of the build may just be kind of boring to watch. It's kind of the worst part of the build for me as far as enjoyment also.

@jdb6speed 2 жыл бұрын

wow wow wow! awesome. thank you for sharing

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Of course! Thanks for watching!

@ivanpomy 2 жыл бұрын

OMG that is badass thank you for sharing!

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Exit_343 4 ай бұрын

Badass!! Beats going to the parts store and trying to find adapters!!!

@DeathTollRacing 4 ай бұрын

One of my favorite tools in the shop for sure.

@adriandean7815 3 жыл бұрын

Great machine. Just what you need. Wonder if you made a jig with a couple of roof torch heads to warm up the metal. Let the metal stretch naturally. Good luck. Sorry we not getting no more safari build. You a good Enginer. Don't sweat the small stuff. Have a good day.

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

I tried heating it before years ago to try and help the expander. One problem is it melts the rubber rings on the expander, so when you take it apart all the pieces fall everywhere. It did help though, but that was my final attempt with one of them for years until now. But this works so well, it would be tough to beat with anything. Lisle will probably see it and start producing it. It would sell for sure. I would have bought it.

@darkminstrel2041 2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to comment and say that you saved my butt. Have an exhaust I'm putting a new cat on and the clamps deformed the bell enough that it's not slipping on. This set-up would have saved me the 3+ hours I've already put into the fitment.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

So glad!!! I've been using the crap out of it the last few weeks on my latest build. (twin turbo cop car)

@jballs2010 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome hack!!!!! Totally bought the harbor freight knockout tool today.... I have the ASTRO expander kit.. fits perfectly... I'm going to try to get another threaded wedge from ASTRO, bore it out and attack it internally from both sides...👍👍👍

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good idea. May have to tune them a bit so they don’t hit in the center when they meet each other. Or maybe not. That will be interesting to see if it’s more powerful. One thought I have is that it will follow the path of least resistance and all the expanding will be done on the new bored out piece since the pipe on that side will be the easier side to stretch leaving you with more of a bell. But you never know!

@boristhecat19 Жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm about to try this same combo this weekend. Just confirming, your ASTRO kit is the 78835, yeah?

@threadtapwhisperer5136 Жыл бұрын

Yoooo! Hot tech tip man! I happen to be fighting this battle here today! The Lisle kit is 100% better, but not worth the cash for garage warriors. I also modded my Hazard Frought expander in my 20 shop press, all janky like. I also planned ahead and grabbed a thrust washer from my job to "Emhance" the Hazard Frought version of the tool.

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

A thrust washer would definitely help it. It also helps a lot to cover the whole thing in grease. But it makes a mess that may not be worth it.

@dantefarnsworth2126 5 ай бұрын

👍👍 up for picking it on earth day ,

@PNW_Car_Mods 2 жыл бұрын

This is freaking awesome! Video should have a million views!

@PNW_Car_Mods 2 жыл бұрын

KZfaq is a fickle mother effer the last couple years. I don't know why but it seemed like a lot of small channel views especially in the automotive category since the wuflu came about have dropped off. My videos suck compared to yours and even I've noticed views not where they were pre 2020. I just do this crap for fun so I'm not trying to make any money. That being said, there are days where I am like eff it. I'm not filming this or that. It's just not worth it. Your content and editing look great. Keep up the good work.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's really hard to get a break through video, especially in automotive. I have not had one even go remotely viral yet, but I'm hanging in there for the most part. I also have had a lot of screw it moments, where I just about delete the channel. I really don't have a solid idea on why I'm struggling so bad for viewers. I've been told numerous times to stop doing the "how to" video's and just start doing complete build video's only. So I tried that when I restored a 2014 Ram 5500 4x4 Rollback tow truck, and the videos fell flat on their face even though I think it's one of my best series (2 vids for complete build, and 2 break outs). There's still hope they will catch on, but I believe it's slim at this point.

@PNW_Car_Mods 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Hey DTR, what size expander did you use to make this tool? There is a 1.5 to 2.5 and then a 2.5 to 3.5 inch. I'm thinking the smaller one would be most versatile for me as long as it will really do 2.5.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

@@PNW_Car_Mods there’s a link to the kit I used in the description that does all of the above in one kit. It’s the easiest way. As far as the 2 dies you mentioned, one thing to consider is that at the max of the range the expansion part tends to look more 8 bit round than actually round if that makes sense. With the lisle kit in the description it has a wide range of dies so you can usually stay at the bottom of the range.

@PNW_Car_Mods 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Yeah I saw that. Just trying to find a workaround to the lisle kit. That is just expensive enough to kill the budget aspect of making this tool lol. Totally makes sense to not use the upper end of the cheap expanders.

@foesfly3047 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

Of course!

@fordfixer3602 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Great video!

@DeathTollRacing 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@davidlesley8884 2 жыл бұрын

That's an awesome idea

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It’s been an extremely handy tool!

@ghunt81 11 ай бұрын

Glad to see this. I just ordered one of the actual hydraulic pipe expander kits, was hoping it would work well and it looks to me like it will! I'm not sure if the hydraulic expander wasn't available when this video was made- I have seen where people mentioned buying the torque-style expanders and the hydraulic punch press to put them together and make this tool, but as of now it's more expensive to go that route over just buying the actual hydraulic pipe expander kit. I got mine for $136.

@DeathTollRacing 11 ай бұрын

I’ve seen those a few times and am definitely interested in how it works.

@ghunt81 11 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I got it yesterday...it is actually just the hydraulic pump from the punch press, and the torque style expander set thrown into one kit. The expander set even has the bolt with the bearing on it that you show in your video. Basically what you have in your video is what I got in this kit.

@Tupadre762 11 ай бұрын

Freaking kick ass dude 👍

@DeathTollRacing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@randykruger Жыл бұрын

Great video .. Thanks

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@michaela8393 2 жыл бұрын

Very smart brother

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@LastHumansGarage 10 ай бұрын

nice tips.. i have the Lisle kit also. i use my electric impact gun on it, with the same die types.

@DeathTollRacing 10 ай бұрын

That lisle kit is great! I have yet to use it as intended since I have that hydraulic puller, but I'm glad to hear it's holding up that way!

@LastHumansGarage 10 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing it does get marks inside the pipe when i really hammer it, and sometimes its not a perfectly round hole. but its good for all my smaller exhaust tip projects.

@grassroots9304 Жыл бұрын

Nice video and nice "hack". I've not laid hands on either tool so please forgive me as I share what I think is an idea: I think that if you adjusted the expanding "nut" that you could limit the amount of effective (expanding) travel of the ram. That is: if the expanding "nut" were farther from the piston body that the piston would have to travel further before the nut contacted and swelled the expander. With careful control of the hydraulic fluid valve (release) on the pump to not allow the ram to fully extend, you could eliminate the take-up in expanding the next pipe. This would allow you to set consistent expansion from piece to piece. Maybe. FWIW. YMMV. Thanks again for the video.

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

That's a good idea!

@Solowkey22 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome hack bro!! U sir, just earned a subscriber....but anyways...I'm fabricating a full exhaust for my bmw 535i (from the downpipe to the mufflers) I was wondering if you've tried this with any stainless tubing? Because I would really love it if I could expand the ends like this so I can slip all the pieces onto each other before I weld em up...b/c like u said, it's just looks sooo much cleaner and easier to weld rather than a buncha butt welds....anyways let me know man, I'd appreciate it!

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I did do some stainless. It was 4” and definitely was pushing it, but it did it! Greasing the dies would probably help a ton if it is being stubborn too. I haven’t had to yet.

@r6scrubs126 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't even get the lisle one to work with an impact gun on stainless, but will give this a try. Thanks!

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I've done 2.25 and 2.5 and it works, but it's hard. It does help to cover the dies with grease, but for me, that would be a last resort. I feel the limiting factor is the pump itself, and have thought about swapping that out with a bigger one, but so far, I have been able to do everything as is.

@r6scrubs126 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing thanks for the reply. I'm going to be trying to swage 2.5inch up to fit around existing 65mm OD tube. Ordered the hydraulic knock out kit from Amazon now anyway so will see how it goes

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

@@r6scrubs126 I’m just using the harbor freight pump, so yours will probably be better. Good luck!

@r6scrubs126 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing ok so the one off Amazon (which was branded Vevor when it turned up) does not have the same thread on the stud as the Lisle kit. It's very close, to the point where you can just about thread the stud from the Lisle kit into it (but if you try expand pipe like this it just starts stripping the threads). Unfortunately I'm in the UK so can't get the harbour freight one. Will see if I can figure out what the thread is on both parts and then can maybe buy or make some kind of adapter

@r6scrubs126 2 жыл бұрын

Tried grinding the threads off the stud that came with the hydraulic kit and welding the Lisle collet nut thing to it... Got quite far with swaging but then the welds snapped when I tried to get the last few mm. First time any of my welds have ever failed 😄 must have been quite a lot of force. The nut went flying like a bullet lol

@boosted2.4_sky 2 жыл бұрын

8:08.. USE THE GREASE EVERY TIME... I have the Astro Pneumatic version of this and it works perfect every time..even on stainless...🏁 I use it and my Ridgid high torque...gravy...🏁

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the grease makes it much easier. I've also done stainless with it. It's a great kit!

@boosted2.4_sky 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing really so the threads don't gaul and get chewed up from impacting...👍

@mattsellers2131 3 жыл бұрын

1000th sub

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!!!

@alexalvarez2495 2 жыл бұрын

"it works, it sucks though" LOL!

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@mattl1576 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work! Will this work on 18 gauge 304 stainless tubing?

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I did 1 and it worked but I had to grease the dies, and it was maxing out the pump. It did work though.

@patrickstar1439 2 жыл бұрын

Nice shirt,bro😂

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Thanks

@patrickzadd5215 4 ай бұрын

Dude you have just streamlined my next project wow….. thanks

@DeathTollRacing 4 ай бұрын

Hope it helps! I use mine regularly.

@brentandtai7275 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid, just wondering how long the stud is your using for this hack?

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

It’s the stud that comes with the knock out punch. I’m not around it right now but I’m recalling about 6-7 inches. It’s fine thread 3/4”

@brentandtai7275 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for that, the knockout kits their selling in Australia only have a 4inch stud

@Biggie_2.0 28 күн бұрын

Nice work...question about the tubing. Is that 16 gauge 304 stainless steel?

@DeathTollRacing 27 күн бұрын

That isn’t, but I use it often on stainless steel. Most recently on the Caprice build.

@Biggie_2.0 24 күн бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Also curious as to getting a nice expansion with the 4-slice Lisle expansion dies. I've seen some vids showing the need to rotate to keep it round. They were using a knockoff brand, but doesn't it make sense that the 8 slice Harbor Freight dies would lessen the need to rotate?

@DeathTollRacing 21 күн бұрын

@@Biggie_2.0 it looks cleaner if you do it that way. It will stretch it enough to work, but you can see that it looks a bit Minecraft ish.

@alex_tercero 2 жыл бұрын

So I’m trying to get my x pipe that has a 2.75” diameter to fit onto my 3” header. Do you think it’s possible for my local mechanic to be able to expand it that much?

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I think so. If it tears it shouldn’t be so bad you can’t just weld it. But I don’t think it will.

@dustinkurtz9939 2 жыл бұрын

Any idea how big you can stretch to? Like if I have a 1 1/8" pipe could I stretch it to fit tighter inside of a 1.5" pipe (in, not around)?

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

It will, if you have a small enough expander. I’m not sure if the setup I made goes that small. Another concern would be the pipe tearing stretching it that much.

@JG-kv4oi 6 ай бұрын

They make nothing in a segmented swedger to expand a 1 1/8 tube because the mandrel would be too small to take the force without breaking. The only way to expand that small is with a dedicated size ram in expander where the tube is held by a split collet. I can expand from 1" up to 5"and don't go smaller only because I've had no call. The 1" tube is used for exhaust on the Webasto style gas and diesel heaters for vehicles.

@svrautosport1632 3 жыл бұрын

Does it work on stainless 304 exhaust tubing zs well ?

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

Mine did 3” 304 with ease. But that’s the only size I’ve tried in stainless so far.

@mr.heinsenberg2472 2 жыл бұрын

is it possible to expand stainless steel tubing ??

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I was able to do 2.5” stainless no problem. If you add grease on the dies it will be stronger too, but then you have to clean it up. I have not had to yet.

@onlywenilaugh6589 8 ай бұрын

unfortunately, I bought punch form HF but the threads on it are finer than the threads on my impact wrench expander so I can't use them together:( It's 16mm thread on HF punch, the threads on the expander are much more coarse.

@DeathTollRacing 8 ай бұрын

is it the Lisle expander? you also could open up your expander and put a nut on the opposite side.

@haroldbutler778 5 ай бұрын

How well does this hack work on stainless steel

@DeathTollRacing 5 ай бұрын

It works great, but it’s a lot for the little hand pump. I since put an air over hydraulic pump on it (also hft) and it works great. Only problem with it is it’s really easy to over expand

@charlesfields7908 2 жыл бұрын

Ok so the biggest misconception about the first exhaust expander, its only meant for fixing out of round pipe. Thats its, no stretching the tube no real expanding just straightening out, out of round pipe. So many ppl misunderstands how to trully use the the first expander shown. It shouldnt been called an expander when it was first developed cause it doesnt expand anything.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I believe that was the intent of it also. But unfortunately it's marked differently. From HFT website: "This heavy duty exhaust pipe expander quickly and easily flares and expands thin wall pipe. Simply place the expander in the barrel of a pipe and turn with a wrench. The expander applies firm, consistent pressure evenly against pipe walls to prevent distortion".

@charlesfields7908 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing yea when they say thin probably mean like 22 26 or 28 gauge thin wall pipe other wise it makes an awkawrd paper weight.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesfields7908 totally, that is if the paper doesn’t outweigh it. 😂🥲😂🤣

@daos3300 2 жыл бұрын

i hear so many people complaining about the cheaper dies, how they don't work.. it's not because the tool sucks, it's because you're doing it wrong. you need to heat up the pipe first. repeat, heat the pipe. that's how they are designed to be used.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

How do you keep the rubber o-rings from melting with that technique?

@daos3300 2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing like you said, take them off - they don't have to be there. but it's still fiddly and a PITA, you have to hold the pipe still and get the tool into a hot pipe. not ideal. i really like your shortened hydraulic version, nice build. helps to lube the pipe too.

@UnseenEvidence Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately vevor kit doesnt fit expander set :( need different bolt

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

Sad. Thanks for letting everyone know!

@JuanSanchez-ik7wx 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if preheating your pipe will make it easier to expand

@DeathTollRacing 8 ай бұрын

I definitely would! However it most likely will melt the rubber in the expanders. I’ve actually done this before with a cheap style one and would use a hose clamp to hold the pieces of the expander, insert in the pipe, loosen the clamp, expand, slide it out just enough and reinstall the clamp. It’s a hassle, but it works.

@JuanSanchez-ik7wx 8 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing i dont believe the heat transfer from the pipe would be enough to melt rubber before the job is done. It might if there was direct contact though.

@ChopShopCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Dude. This is what I'm looking for. Tired of those one time use expanders. Only get multiple uses if the impact is avoided.

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

You’ll love it!!!

@WOSE_RACING 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to know the product information of the video

@DeathTollRacing 3 жыл бұрын

expander-- amzn.to/3sbReBA Hydraulic knockout kit used--- www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-punch-driver-kit-96718.html Alternative cheap hydraulic knockout kit that should also work on amazon... -- amzn.to/2VIGgIk

@AN-kg4ei 2 жыл бұрын

Looked a lot like Eric O @ SMA. I had to do a double take...

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Lol. I had to look him up. My wife agrees with you.

@jayceblano6406 11 ай бұрын

What brand sir and how much that

@DeathTollRacing 11 ай бұрын

Click "show more" under the video and there are links to all of it as well as alternatives.

@1991tommygun 2 жыл бұрын

They sell this hydraulic pipe expander kit on ebay for $600 canadian, crazy

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

That's crazy. They didn't have it when I first made this. I looked high and low for it. I'm going to add the links, but I think it's still cheaper to buy the lisle kit and the HF kit since you don't have to modify either, and then you can use it both ways and also have a knockout punch!

@deejay4837 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but what gauge steel pipe was that???

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

most exhaust tubing is .065 (16 gauge) That's what I expanded.

@deejay4837 Жыл бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Nice work!

@jaredooo5028 Жыл бұрын

And that was "Stainless Steel" that you expanded???

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

Not in that video I don’t think, I have a few times now on stainless though. I think on the crown Vic twin turbo build I did in the video.

@DeathTollRacing Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info0R-yQHFuDRw?feature=share I upgraded it and talk a bit about stainless here

@1991tommygun 2 жыл бұрын

Ive used that lisle kit on an impact for years and it took the abuse, just saying, hydraulic is better tho

@DeathTollRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Yes they are a good kit for sure!

@r6scrubs126 2 жыл бұрын

is there some trick to using it with an impact? I got absolutely nowhere with it on 2.5 inch stainless (1.5mm wall thickness) just using an impact on it with the tube in a vise