Excellent mind set, make your car what you want, not what others like👍🏼

Definitely agree with you, the 86 is such a great car out of the factory. I really don't have the urge to go out and modify for no reason. Although I do think an exhaust upgrade is necessary haha.

i'm gonna mod mine when i get it later this month, but i think that if it's your car, do whatever you want to it. it doesn't need justification, just as long as you like it.

That's why you put it back to stock,sell parts and car.

Great video, I too also plan on buying a BRZ and will leave it completely stock, my previous car was completely modified and heres why I wouldn't do it again: 1. Price, these parts are expensive and whats worse is the labour costs (even if you plan on doing it most your self, the tools required won't be cheap or the time taken). 2. Re-sale value, added from point 1.... All of it is wasted, so many people think "Oh I spent $10k on my car therefore I can sell my car for 10k more", the reality is - you have a seriously tiny niche audience once the car is modified.. It also scares potential buyers because 'Its a modified car, its obviously been thrashed its whole life". 3. Addiction. Seriously, this is a bad one. First you start off with an Exhaust .. Which leads to an intake .. Headers.. Full tune ... Then the wheels.. New rims.. Tyres.. suspension.. breaks.. disks.. pads... etc etc it does not STOP. There is ALWAYS a mod you can get. 4. N/A Cars cost a LOT to push performance (mix between point 1 and 3), if you want serious gains - You need to go forced induction.. Forget N/A the gains for the money you spent is laughable. 5. Insurance .. Once your car is heavily modified, your insurance costs begin to cost a lot more and most of the time you'll have to switch insurance companies because not all support modified cars and if you don't tell your insurance company about your car being modded then when you get into an accident (even if it aint your fault) chances are they won't cover you. 6. Fuel efficiency which is a pretty good aspect of the BRZ. It's one of the reasons I sold my RX8 .. When you mod your car and tune it, you worsen your fuel economy. 7. Attention. Heaps of mods and stickers/loud-exhaust attracts attention, whether its kids on the street telling you to "FLOOR IT BRO", or teenagers driving their civics trying to race you, police targeting you. 8. It ruins the detail of the originality of the car. The BRZ was tested by Subaru/Toyota the way it is, the car was designed by top leading engineers and is one of the best reviewed cars out there - why would you want to go around and mess that up with 3rd party adding and what not. 9. RELIABILITY. This is probably the second most important point - When you start to mod your car, you start to hamper the reliability of your car, tuning your car with 3rd party headers/exhaust/camshafts bla bla.. 10. Warranty - if the car is still under warranty, 99% chance that it will void it if you start to throw on 3rd party mods.

Honestly the only thing I want to do to my FRS is better tires, new headlights, window tint, and maybe new calipers. I love everything about this car stock. It's fun as hell to drive as soon as you leave the dealer.

I'm gonna drive mine into the ground. Hence turbo kit, wheels, suspension, clutch, tail lights. I have no intention of selling it, it's a toy. I bought it so i wouldn't buy another bike. I like the style, love the handling and with turbo it's just enough extra fun than stock to keep me happy. It's a project car for me. I've still spent less on it than a stock 370Z.

It's no worry that you want to be stock and normal. It's what makes unique cars really stand out from the common man.

I had a 89 Presude with 4 wheel steering. It was 20 when I bought it, and I feel like it was extremely low miles. It wasn’t that fast, but handled well, and was a joy to drive. I had to get some work done, for a week they loaned me an Eclipse GT V6 hard top. Didn’t like. Climbed back into my Prelude and it was like a comfy pair of old shoes. It fit right. I want a BRZ it is a Sports car like my Prelude. Smal Car, light weight, ample engine, and built to drive. Just workin on the finances. The Corvette isn’t a sports cat it is a Performance car.

The best thing on earth was to lower my frs with TRD lowering springs. I daily drive it and only scraped lightly twice in three years. Never ever bottomed out speed bumps are not a problem. It is a well thought of and balanced ride height. Best thing I ever did. Thrust me do it! Lowers one inch. Cheap too

Totally agree! Bought one myself a few months ago, it's great, not thinking at all about modding. Great to see that you still enjoy it, I'd like to keep mine for a long time as well.

All the FRS/BRZ needs if you plan on tracking the car are wider wheels with stickier tires, better brake pads, and maybe coilovers. All of this can easily be removed if you plan to sell.

I've got a BRZ too, I answered all my mates with the exact same answer. And I've seen too many auto BRZ's/86's (which should be illegal punishable by street execution), which pretty much all have mods to compensate inability to drive manual.

I love looking at modified 86/frs/brz but I can justify lumping cash into making mine remotely different from stock. I love it the way it is.

I got to be honest as someone who bought and built a 450kw track monster 86 for one of our local drivers , when we were in the process of buying the car we looked for the cheapest car with reasonable mileage that was *BONE STOCK* even something with basic mods like lights was cut out. The reason is you can't tell if the previous person who owned the car was a hack e.g bunch of stripped bolts, cross threading, dodgy wiring jobs etc. These problems will only show when you start to work on it and it's just a massive pain to deal with. This doesn't mean don't modify your BRZ/86 just when it comes time to sell to make as much money as possible return as most mechanical mods as you can stock. Little things can be left on but for the most part return to stock.

Absolutely agree. You could mod the car all day long and you're still not going to win at drag races or track days, so what's the point? The car, stock, has all the performance and handling it needs to be fun to drive.

I live in CA. I told them that I'll put down 15k only if they would do the whole body kit suspension and exhaust with my ELD.Roots Supercharger & AfterMarket Rims and Tires maybe that's why. anyways I'm thinking of getting it blue and replacing the hood with carbon fiber black. plus I'm going to remove the whole back seat put the cross bar in than have the back seat area Fiberglass for show but really to house a JL Audio 13w7 with the JL Amp. we're I would sit. the sub will be were your back goes. & the rest of the Car speakers will be Focals K series, I'm not worried about resale because when I do this I plan on keeping the Car. I also plan on buying the Chevy Volt 2017 all by next yeAr July this will tAke place. I can't wait. once done I will send u a video. of the BRZ and it's cool because it comes from the Factory with Bembo Brakes.

I agree with your viewpoints. I've owned a BRZ for 2 years now and I've only added Whiteline bushings and just recently switched to a Flex Fuel tune. Still completely stock suspension, wheels and tires. It really does just boil down to personal preference and the needs of the driver. I also daily my BRZ and I think that the stock setup is completely suited to my basic commuting needs.

Some people mod cars for performance and other build for aesthetics. I'm with you with this as you mention this is your "daily driven" vehicle. Though the car is mod friendly, its really tempting to do something for that opportunity lol

got to do what makes you happy. i dont mess with my daily cars. the rest are just toys. still you have to take into account what you want it to do and how much you are willing to spend.

I don't know for sure about the BRZ but since the 86/FR-S are the same car, and Toyota won't void your warranty at all for using the TRD mods, maybe Subaru would stand by that as well? TRD offers a quick shifter (my personal go-to mod for a lot of manuals), lowering springs, sway bars, wheels, and catback exhaust. I'm getting a 2017 Toyota 86 soon and I'm for sure getting the quick shifter and the exhaust, I'll have to test the stock suspension before I consider the springs and sway bars.

I also got a brand new 2015 "frs" back in November. Agree that we should enjoy the free warranty we get. I spoke to my dealership and they said that any modifications like turbo,intake,even exhaust will void it. The only way it won't is if I get the TRD brand and they install it. I think at least you should modify the outside of the car. Rims/lights will make it look nice. I live in NY so lowering my car even further as a daily driver, I refuse to do. Definitely think about doing outside modifications to make it look a nicer. Eventually I would like to boost up the hp but nothing crazy

To be honest I totally agree with you. Even on my FRS I just upgraded my headlights to HIDS, rebadge, drop in and duck wing spoiler and jdm corners and I'm done modding the car.

Resale is garbage for any vehicle. After just two years my car had lost $8,000 for private sale and around $13,000 for trade-in with low miles, practically like-new condition, and basically stock. Now that the newest 86 has a ton more features the original cars are going to be even cheaper. I saw the same with my 05 STI. Mods don't matter unless they're so far from stock that they shrink the potential buyer market. My STI, with just an intake didn't sell any worse than stock vehicles on AutoTrader. Just keep your stock parts and don't do anything drastic. There's plenty to dislike abou the 86 as an owner, especially as a new parent. No steering wheel controls (buh buh simplicity! Well the 2017 now has controls so that's BS), huge torque dip with stock fueling and header, no aero and the car gets floaty much above 100mph, cheap head unit and stock speakers, crickets anyone?, direct injector failure is common, stock header sounds like crap, LOL leg room in the back seat, honestly the back seat is basically pointless and you have to be a contortionist to get anything in and out back there, no factory turbo option... I could go on, but it IS a fun car to drive and fairly easy to mod. There are just far too many shortcomings and BS cost-saving compromises made with the early cars to be a total fanboy over it. I enjoy driving mine, but it's so annoying to climb in and out of and put my 2-year-old son into that I'll probably sell it for a pickup or go back to an STI. They should have made it a tad longer with four doors.

i salute you bro i myself am a purist as well

Tell me you can’t afford car parts without telling me you can’t afford car parts

You could always keep the stock parts, if you modify. Then when you're trying to sell the cars put the stock parts back on. Put the modifications up for sale in the HUGE aftermarket of the 86. Granted, it won't be ALL your money back but it's practically back to square one.

You put money in and get satisfaction, also being proud of building it. (if you installed the parts)

Well said dude. If i want more hp, i will go buy plenty of cars out there; Muastang, S5, you name it and keep it stock and it will hold resale value when you get bored with it.

I'm gonna keep my 17 BRZ stock until the free stuff expires and then throw a new exhaust on her, a ls2 or 2jZ, a new tune, headers, and possibly a supercharger

Buying a car like this with the intention of selling it, is a concept that I cannot understand. If it is just transportation and youre worried about resell value, buy a typical economy car. Buy a fun car to have fun with it imo. Being half into the car scene or culture is a waste if you ask me.

Consider MTEC shift springs to make the shifter more positive. $30, and a very easy install. Beyond that, maybe a TRD quick shifter to make the throws shorter (with the shift springs, the shifter becomes even more mechanical).

haha!! My modification plans are really long and drawn out. I will only replace parts when they're nearing their end of life. But I will upgrade parts on my BRZ as I see fit. I've upgrade the engine oil, transmission fluid, and differential fluid to synthetic. I've just replaced my tires to Michelin A/S 3+. And I will probably be upgrading the suspension to Bilstein B6 + STI springs when I hit around 80k.

I talked with the dealership and they said if I buy from them they will install the TRD package & the Edelbrock Roots Supercharger at the Factory & be able to keep the service free still.

Gotta agree as modding your car does indeed devalue it as you gain nothing in return. It may be worth it if you keep the car for more than 10 years but 5 years? nah. Good luck selling mod cars as that's one hell of a niche market.

Suspension mods are pretty much required for these cars I feel, they look like SUVs when they're stock. Got Eibach coilovers on my 86, they massively improve looks, make it tighter in the bends, and have had virtually no effect on comfort.

I wouldn’t buy a modded car and I would look for any signs of mods removed.

Nice to see this kinda video. Just a question out of curiosity: can modded cars be normally insured in the US? Where I live most companies only allow small mods like changing the wheels, muffler and some cosmetic mods.

You can get your money back by installing back the stock parts to the car and sell the mod parts separatelythen you’ll actually get more money.

1) cost money a. plenty of cheap aftermarket for the BRZ 2) You don't get the money back a. put back stock parts b. put back stock tune c. sell parts d. sell car 3) I agree 4) stock suspension a. I think coil overs completely change the cars look and feel but ur opinion 5)enjoy the way it is a. I think anyone can agree some new tires, a header + exaughst and a tune will make the car 1000 times better. total would cost you MAX 2k and very simple modifications almost anyone can do. if you want to resell, sell the parts, return to stock, sell the car. why would you purchase a car knowing you're going to sell it? that's ridiculous in my opinion. it's ur car do what you want but the stock car is not perfect, no car is. I'm seriously telling you some big new tires, headers, exaughst, and a tune will completely change the car and IMO unlock it's full potential. I would add coilovers too but maybe not in ur situation. You get rid of the torque dip and add significant torque and hp gains that really liven up the car. fairly simple to do everything yourself or with a buddy.

Not even a exhaust?

I may eventually put an exhaust on my BRZ but I'm not going to lower it because it's already low enough. I'm definitely opposed to turbos if I can help it unless the vehicle already has a turbo from the factory.

u totally right.but here...how about tail lights..u gotta at least change those taillight lol

Thankfully I bought my frs used, and it came with a straight pipe exhaust without headers (not sure what brand) I drove it back to back with a stock, newer model year frs and it really had a smoother power band. Definitely feel you on not getting your money back. I'm pretty reluctant about doing anything else besides wheels and tires.

thing is you can take the turbo out and make it oem so its hard to know.

Iam a purist too , i can't buy a car if their is any aftermarket parts on it even if the mods were removed , all the original parts need to be there. I already refused to buy a cobalt ss supercharged because of somes mods : trifecta tuned , exhaust , aftermarket radio , custom tail light , chevy logo was removed , custom headlight

sti exhaust completes the experience.

Personally, I think mine needs an exhaust. I would like to add a small turbo to bring up the mid/low range for a bit of extra fun

I have the FRS and I felt this way too in the beginning but I eventually changed the exhaust and wheels/tires. It just didn't give the car justice in my opinion

Kind of my dilemna - sell it now since its stock and get something else (E46 M3, new Supra etc) or put $$$$ into susp, exhaust, headers, tune, tires etc. I still love driving it and compared to my F80 M3 which is a LOT faster, BRZ is still more fun to drive. It has that magic about it that you can't see on a spec sheet.

the anology of resale makes sense for a honda civic if a buyer is looking at an frs brz gt86 they are already wanting a sports car. so with that being said the car itself narrows down your audience plus parts will increase the value considering most sport car enthusiants want bang for their buck

if i put a wide body kit and an exhaust, will it depreciate?

I would still get an exhaust, its worth it

do you have any issue downshifting to first and second?

I just want to get UEL headers for my 86

I had to take my exhaust and my wheels and my wing off my FRS when I traded it in because they were gonna give me way less. Luckily I kept all the stock stuff lol. Not I got a GT86 GT!

Hey, I own a frs and I wanted to know does headers voids warranty? And what about coilovers?

You're comparing a modified car to a smokers car, seriously?...that is a horrible comparison! Go buy your mods, do what you want. Cars depreciate no matter what, who cares, do what you want. Keep it clean, thats what matters! Stay stock, stay boring lol

2:57 I cringed so hard I got a back spasm. I HATE when that happens.

Can a person that's 6'-3" fit inside the BRZ?

agree wholeheartedly.

It’s called save stock parts and revert to stock when you want to sell and then part out 🙄🙄🙄

9k miles in 2 years for a daily driver, lucky. I put on around 28k a year :(

What about an frs with a trd exhaust? I mean it's Toyota with a Toyota part.

How much does it cost to own this car? In terms of monthly payments and insurance costs.

Dammit. No HD yet 😩

So many people are going to get butthurt that you won't modify your car

Free oil changes don't disappear with mods.

idk but ik those are some rich ass house in the area lol. Frs/Brz good the way they are. Ppl that complain about power & hight they got the wrong car for the wrong reason thats about it they deserve a slap... js...

Before I watch this video, there is no good reason to not mod the FT86 Platform.

Real answer: because I’m not a real car guy and I’m afraid to get under the hood.

How is it on wet roads?

Just say no to fart cans.

I'm Kind of late to this video, but my opinion matters dammit. Come on dude, At the very least, get your windows tinted. Like my opinion, Tint Matter! Really, it's a must. Fuck everything else, These care ARE dope as is. But come on..... Tint.

so whats the next mod?

concrete pocket.

It’s easier to drive a slow car fast then it is to drive a fast car slow

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