Experience & Review: Canonet G-III QL17

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China Camera Style

China Camera Style

Күн бұрын

If you have ever found yourself drooling over a Leica, but you’ve never had the cash to splash on one. Then this will be something that might interest you. In this episode, we shot with the Canonet QL17 Giii, one of many small (and sometimes not so small) fixed lens rangefinders to come out of Japan in the 70’s. The youngest brother in Canon’s Canonet series. It’s a fixed lens rangefinder that is light, has a bright viewfinder and a great lens. Of course, this camera isn’t going to have the build, the glass or the badge to show all your friends. But, this camera is a pretty capable camera, that could be all you need to make wonderful photos in most situations.
The Canonet QL17 Giii, as mentioned previously, is the freshest face in a highly revered series. It features shutter priority auto-exposure (which given an average day, I’d probably have made more of an effort to get along with), the QL ‘Quickload’ system and big, bright parallax compensated frame lines that house a clear rangefinder patch. It’s got a sharp, 40mm f1.7 lens, that accompanies a Copal leaf shutter capable of firing between 1/4 - 1/500 of a second. X-Syncing at any speed. I’ve read that the lens is sharpest between f4 - f5.6, so as someone who is more familiar with scale focussing, I spent a long time, trying a little harder than I wanted to, to hit focus.
Personally, I feel that the ergonomics of the camera are somewhere between heaven and hell. A silky focussing knob, a smooth winding lever and a prominent shutter release, do battle with a fiddly shutter speed and aperture ring combination. So, if you aren’t a fan of shutter-priority and you are looking to shoot this manually, be prepared to be irritated. I missed many opportunities trying to meter and switch the camera out of A-mode before I decided to use my phone. It really made me feel like Edward Scissorhands trying to change the Shutter speed or aperture. I felt I had to stop and really think about what I was doing to avoid putting my fingers all over the lens or changing both at the same time. It feels like this camera was designed for little hands and with only A-mode in mind. After shooting the roll, despite my grievances with the camera, I still really enjoyed shooting it. I am acutely aware, however, that my thoughts are totally biased. I feel I have been hypnotised by its dashing good looks, and charming personality.
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@kev9385
@kev9385 4 жыл бұрын
All pics were out of focus
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 4 жыл бұрын
I do need glasses
@alexc1773
@alexc1773 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChinaCameraStyle practice zone focusing
@aperturecollect
@aperturecollect 3 ай бұрын
Most of the time with the "new" batteries if you just change the iso setting to one lower ISO you'll get a good shot and it makes life easier. I almost always use the cameras meter and it rarely reads wrong that way.
@arnulfoloredo1079
@arnulfoloredo1079 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, are you still using this camera? I just recently bought one and shot my first film roll, I'm excited to see how it comes out. I loved that you showed almost all your pictures taken with this camera, even the ones that were out of focus. Been shooting digital and been so used to autofocus, it's easy to miss or just forget to focus for every single shot (it happened to me). I'm liking this camera, it's so basic and a fun way to understand that basics of photography: framing, focusing, metering, and shot.
@user-cu5ow1tq9t
@user-cu5ow1tq9t 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Vid, very informative and fun, I bought this camera a few days ago, I'm thrilled to try it out on the streets, I'm more of a manual focus and sunny 16 guy so the battery issues and metering doesn't really matter to me, anyways keep up the good work! 💯
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! It's definitely a set-up and go kind of camera. I feel if it was Aperture priority, and a little less fiddly, it could have competed with cameras way above its class! I have had a couple issues with film advance (slipping gear which was an easy fix), and the focus tab came lose (not such an easy fix, was very fiddly). Despite these, it's robust, light-weight and a great lens. If you have any images I'd love to see what you can make with this camera! Enjoy!
@germanboy5392
@germanboy5392 4 жыл бұрын
I had one brand new...yep I'm old....but in 1975 I was 12 and was into photographing Airplanes and my Mom suprised me with a replacement for my cheap Kodak.
@fallenshoes116
@fallenshoes116 5 жыл бұрын
enjoyed this video! Not to long, good editing, and great information. great work! Just picked up a Yashica GSN electro 35. trying to decide if i should trade it in for maybe one of these.
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Keep the GSN and get one of these as well? I am contemplating going for the older brother (MJU). I feel that even that is a little top heavy price wise right now.
@MarinaGarrison
@MarinaGarrison 3 жыл бұрын
Keep the yashica. It’s aperture priority instead of shutter priority like the canon. Image quality should be similar although the canon is smaller and lighter.
@Cheetorblz
@Cheetorblz 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the hate for the Auto more. If you want a particular shutter speed, you set the shutter to that speed. Pretty damn simple. Want a different aperture? again, adjust the shutter speed until the f stop you want is displayed. Again, simple. Ok, so you want to override the meter to underexpose or over expose, then look at your reading and set the speed and aperture to the auto and the bump one or the other up or down. It's all simple.
@randallstewart175
@randallstewart175 4 жыл бұрын
The lens on this camera is equal to the best lens ever mounted to a fixed lens 35mm camera. It is excellent even at the wider apertures. While it will shoot like any unmetered camera in manual mode, it really displays its convenience in its auto exposure mode. Like most such cameras of its age, it is a shutter preferred system, wherein you select a shutter speed and the meter selects the aperture with a readout in the viewfinder. As noted in the video, the original battery is not available, however the alternatives are (1) use a Wien cell, which is the right voltage (short life), (2) use a voltage adapted battery (expensive adapter), or (3) have the meter circuit modified to take available a current battery (can cost a little or a lot). Having purchased several of the voltage dropping diodes required, my solution has been to wire that modification into the camera; using the same battery as I use in the majority of my other cameras. As used cameras, these have become quite expensive, if in operating condition often more than $150 -200. I have two, which I bought when digital was first coming in, meaning when I could buy them for $20.
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 4 жыл бұрын
Randall Stewart thanks for the comment Randall. Interested in how you wire the voltage conversion into the body. I agree with your comments about the lens. Being 40mm, it’s my preferred focal length, but I find the Auto/shutter priority is what holds it back in my opinion. My issues with the shutter priority were lessened somewhat by the ability to lock the exposure. If this camera was more tactile in Manual mode, I can’t see a reason for myself to use any other rangefinder camera. It’s a shame that it is such a pigs ear to adjust manually/shift in and out of auto to meter.
@randallstewart175
@randallstewart175 4 жыл бұрын
You switch from auto to manual exposure by settnig the aperture ring from "A" to your preferred f-stop. Not sure how it could be simpler. However, setting the f-stop to a manual election switches off the meter circuit, so to use the internal meter in manual, you have to et it to auto, note the light reading, then manually reset the exposure - a relative hassle. Rewiring the meter: There is a class of diode which takes the 1.5 voltage (more of less) of a current battery and drops its output voltage to 1.35 volts, exactly what the camera wants to use. You wire the diode between the positive battery terminal and rest of the meter circuit. This requires the right diode, some tools to open and close the camera body, and soldering equipment; also a will to plunge in there if you aren't into DIY camera repair.
@Cheetorblz
@Cheetorblz 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have some links to more information about wiring changed to accept alternate voltages? Thanks
@randallstewart175
@randallstewart175 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cheetorblz Unhappily, no. Most of the diodes you would use to drop the battery voltage as quite tiny. You can remove the bottom plate to access the battery compartment, then install the diode into the positive power lead coming off the battery. The basic tools/parts required would be a tiny screw driver, low watt soldering iron and solder, wire snips, and shrink-wrap wire insulators; a small volt or multimeter to make sure you have the diode correctly installed and have not shorted out the power led from battery to camera circuit.
@Cheetorblz
@Cheetorblz 3 жыл бұрын
I figured that area would be easiest to access but wasn't sure if there was a reason to have to go on top.@@randallstewart175 that helps, I wondered where the best place to put the diode.
@Sophia-zb5nv
@Sophia-zb5nv 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Where can i find this camera?? I want it so badly!
@brandonjamesripley
@brandonjamesripley Жыл бұрын
What light meter app do you recommend?
@anarafol5295
@anarafol5295 4 жыл бұрын
What light meter apo do you use?
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's called Lux, I have a couple, I normally just use it as a base, then wing it by eye.
@fulgently
@fulgently 5 жыл бұрын
Focusing lines within are a pain
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, I think it's a pretty nice finder if you get a good copy. I do find that the meter kind of obscures a section though. Is that what you are referring to?
@fulgently
@fulgently 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChinaCameraStyle the lines are very faint for focusing, i wish can i draw lines on the glass with a sharpie lol
@user-vy5dv9mt8f
@user-vy5dv9mt8f 4 жыл бұрын
where did you get your soft release button from ?
@ChinaCameraStyle
@ChinaCameraStyle 4 жыл бұрын
I got it from Taobao
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