Mosquito Helicopter going FULL ELECTRIC!? 2023

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@Roadstercycle Жыл бұрын

Being a test pilot for Robinson Helicopter for 30 years and building Tesla powered Ford Mustangs I love the idea. The only issue is that flying for X number of minutes you don't get lighter with fuel being burned off so have have be careful of keeping enough hover battery power left to land safely as the weight does not change.

@moteroargentino7944 Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's a burden that electric vehicles will probably have forever. But if some day we develop batteries with more energy density than liquid fuels, they might make up for the weight.

@aeroengguy448 Жыл бұрын

The Mosquito has great auto-rotation capability, so any engine loss can still be recovered safely.

@Roadstercycle Жыл бұрын

@@aeroengguy448 That is great but that's not what I'm talking about. You have to be very conservative on your battery so you have enough power available when doing a normal landing. You need as much hover power in the beginning as in the end as the helicopter won't get any advantage from burning off fuel making the helicopter lighter. Just something that has to be learned. Pilot training is all.

@tvguide4khv Жыл бұрын

its still a very good initial training device with ability to emulate different power trains

@lightman489 Жыл бұрын

@@Roadstercycle that must of been a dream job, and you must of been an very successful pilot maybe even military..I'm not a pilot but I've always observed the pilot throttle back to come down then giving it the throttle and just before touchdown backing off the throttle..I look forward to seeing a hybrid version as well

@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the specific information about the components and the power information (e.g. 40 kW in hover, and even the motor speed of 2750 RPM). I recognized the Emrax motor design, but wouldn't have been sure of the model without it being stated, and I recognized the LG Chem modules but the confirmation is good. Prototype electric aircraft are often hard to assess without real power and energy data.

@legallyfree2955 Жыл бұрын

But its easier for them to make up statistics if they don't provide any real world numbers ;) . How can you go and tell your customers you plan to give it a 3 hour flight time if at the same time you tell them there is 30kwh of energy on board and you require 40kw just to hover :P

@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын

@@hexad3c1m4l they didn't claim three hours - that was just a sarcastic comment by 'Legally Free'. The endurance is only 20 to 25 minutes, on about 16 kWh.

@20-9-93 Жыл бұрын

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@Datan0de Жыл бұрын

I don't think I've ever commented on this channel before, but I would love for you to follow the development of this helicopter! As battery technology continues to improve, I think we're going to see more and more aircraft like this, with steadily improving performance.

@munyaelliott Жыл бұрын

Yes this is a great leap. Would definitely be interested in developing something like this although I'm concerned about battery times

@jonathanbailie Жыл бұрын

It's amazing the sound that thing still makes! What an awesome job!

@wtf2krazy Жыл бұрын

I'm really curious to see what fault tolerance you can work into the Sevcon Gen4, typically they just open the main contactor and drop all power when they fault out which could be sketchy if don't have enough elevation to autorotate. LG chem cells are a great choice for this, really looking forward to future development of electric craft like this!

@glory122 Жыл бұрын

Matt here. That is one of the concerns I had with using this controller. You are somewhat limited with how you want the controller to handle a fault situation. However we did already test it in an auto from about 4 ft and our pilot was able to successfully pull pitch quick enough and counter the tail to have a safe albeit quick landing without any damage. The problem I am actually looking at how to address is a temp fault (not requiring a key-switch reset) like an over-temp of the controller (primarily because we are spinning the motor to slow for the power we want, we are a bit too far over the controllers continuous amp rating to the motor), where it will cut back for about 0.5 second and then suddenly re-engage power. This is definitely a new experience for the pilot, where he would be making a tail correction in the auto to keep it from rotation and all of a sudden power is back and it rotates suddenly).

@wtf2krazy Жыл бұрын

@@glory122 Glad to hear your auto tests have gone well. EV motor controls are still in their infancy and need projects like this to drive the requirements for aspects like fault handling. The Gen4 has a thermal cutback curve, (Figure 12) in the manual if you can dial in the thermal managment to stay under ~75-78C you'll be golden. If the high current draw is intermittent you increase the mass of the heatsink to try and get a little more thermal resistance for those flucutations. I'm sure you've looked at the options Curtis has for motor controls, they have better fault communication but I'm not sure if they are better at fault handling.

@onebravotango 11 ай бұрын

You bring up an excellent point about fault tolerance and the Sevcon Gen4. Ensuring a safe response in case of faults is indeed crucial, especially when elevation might be limited. It's encouraging to see your thoughtful consideration for the technical aspects of electric aircraft development.

@MrJoker.420 Жыл бұрын

That's so cool man, props to you. Hope you get massive funding so can continue the good work ❤️

@yacahumax1431 Жыл бұрын

Great to see people keep experimenting. Sooner or later a breakthrough in battery technology will come.

@bitrage. Жыл бұрын

In 10 years we will say in 10 years we will have solid state...😂

@drood78 Жыл бұрын

They're making helicopters not battery's.

@Karl_Squell Жыл бұрын

@@bitrage. Actually the Chinese came out with a battery in April that is supposedly able to power airplanes. The company name is CATL if you want to search it up

@skip741x3 3 ай бұрын

It IS coming..quick charges, light weight and range exceeding a gas equivalant....these are the Holy Grail of the EV industry, that have held it back in times past but are about to be resolved ... this will affect ALL EV's be it aviation ,automotive ect.

@denu1879 3 ай бұрын

Sodium Cobalt batteries have been discovered today (24-04-2024) which will allow charges within seconds and doubling that found from Lithium batteries. Let's hope science beings this main stream!

@charlesmiddleton3247 Жыл бұрын

I served in the Marine Corps in aviation during the Vietnam Era. Mostly helicopters where I was. Loved every minute of it being around those flying machines. No fixed-wing for me!!

@user-tt4wb1ln6q 5 ай бұрын

Че сбежал со ветнама ?

@heartsky Жыл бұрын

I like how you didn't cut out the engine-off rotor slow down shot and left the entire thing, kind of like a mini meditation, nice.

@LoftechUK Жыл бұрын

This is insane. I really like it. It’s so instant power no waiting at all. It’s a way forward definitely

@ransomedavis2208 Жыл бұрын

it seemingly can only currently go 1 - 2 foot off the ground aswell, but im loving the potential this is bringing.

@pheirphon4680 13 күн бұрын

Reasons it only hovers/levitate 2 foot is to make sure all components can handle the rotor velocity 😊

@SF-fb6lv Жыл бұрын

Really impressive. I like the way they are pushing the tech even though so far the batteries only provide 25 minutes of flight.

@bshn10 Жыл бұрын

25 minutes at best. y'all are cucks

@patrickday4206 8 ай бұрын

If they doubled batteries could be a short commuter

@jebes909090 8 ай бұрын

@@patrickday4206 more batteries = more weight and thus less flight time. so maybe double batteries would increase flight time by 50%, then quad batteries increase flight time a total of 75%

@patrickday4206 7 ай бұрын

@@jebes909090 tesla's wireless power then?? 😊 haha

@jebes909090 7 ай бұрын

@@patrickday4206 thats the same tech the aliens used in independence day!! Elon innovating as usual.

@afireinside909 Жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a follow up on it! That would be awesome to see the progress!

@lukaskopia Жыл бұрын

I spoke with Mathew Alborne at Oshkosh this year, I was very excited to see an electric helicopter there. I am so glad that they have a flying prototype now!

@ryanlemons3255 Жыл бұрын

@@psoriasishealth3817 just like snowmobiles in the areas not snowing so much

@railroadisolationist5452 Жыл бұрын

Shoulda went to that

@glory122 Жыл бұрын

Matt here. Was a pleasure speaking with you at Oshkosh Lukas. Hoping we can show it flying at next year's event!

@voicetube Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a follow-up! If they can get it up to one-hour flight time that would be a great follow-up!

@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын

It crashed 2 days ago and burned

@ContentWizard Жыл бұрын

@@michaelvoorhees5978 I'm sorry to hear that :-( Was the pilot okay? Hopefully at some time a new version will be built (with longer-range etc.).

@leachimeel Жыл бұрын

0:35 The way he says Norbert and then realizes how silly it was once he hears it correctly made me lol

@savneetsinghrairai6823 Жыл бұрын

Wow even in prototype i am loving it .....what a compact setup so smooth...... With more flying time in future i definitely love this concept 😍....... So simple and it's amazing...... Minor changes can do wonders keep it up 👌👌

@SonnetGomes Жыл бұрын

This is Brilliant. You guys are going in the right direction. I need these for EVs and Ebikes for now. Killer Motor and controller! Love it.

@flexairz Жыл бұрын

They're going backwards? 20 minute flight time..10 hours charge.. batt tech is mature.. its a dead end

@HeliEnthusiast 9 ай бұрын

This is exactly how we fly our RC helicopters. Amazing that stuff can apply to a full-size keep going.

@Martyn0001 Жыл бұрын

Ideal for flying from one side of your garden to the other!

@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib Жыл бұрын

At least they started the project, then they can work on flight time

@freedomstar3814 Жыл бұрын

Make sure to have an electric charger at each end !

@user-xb9vf5qz3c Жыл бұрын

I like green 💚 small electric ⚡ helicopter 🚁

@NoobieToob Жыл бұрын

It might be useless to you who uses his truck to travel to other side of town to buy some meth and groceries but as a large farm owner I can use this to get to different parts of the farm, to check up on things.

@Martyn0001 Жыл бұрын

@@NoobieToob I touched a nerve there I think.

@tomcoryell Жыл бұрын

BrYan, the channel just keeps getting better. I really appreciate you keeping us up to date on really cool aircraft.

@fairlanewhip79 Жыл бұрын

That’s such an exciting prototype! Obviously the challenge is to extend that runtime and range.. as the battery technology catches up these kinds of aircraft will be such a cool and novel mode of transport for the people who are lucky enough to be involved!

@silverdude4668 Жыл бұрын

The entire chopper chassis would probably have to be completely remade to encorporate all of the added weight and packaging :/ Maybe a fundraiser model with the size of a robinson or a little bird? But it is a vital step for their developement as a company!

@chrishayes5755 Жыл бұрын

modify a glider to an EV and design features to allow it to land vertically. helicopters are very inefficient and should be phased out IMO.

@nonconsensualopinion Жыл бұрын

Solid state batteries are difficult to get right but a few companies have made some pretty good progress. Those batteries would really unlock the potential here. High capacity, light, and safe.

@illuminatedperspectives2894 Жыл бұрын

25 MINUTES OF FLIGHT TIME? YOU MAY AS WELL GO BACK TO GAS ENGINES. THIS ISNT PROGRESS THIS IS GOING BACKWARDS LOL

@SweetLou0523 Жыл бұрын

@@illuminatedperspectives2894 the first electric cars had a thousand pounds of lead acid batteries and had a range of 20 miles. Look how far we've come from that, and remember that nearly ALL the massive ev advancement has been in just the last 10 years. This is a first gen, essentially prototype electric helicopter. Imagine in just 5 years how much more advanced they will be! Now imagine 10 years!

@wadetyrell Жыл бұрын

Awesome seeing technology advancing in new directions.

@SoirEkim 7 ай бұрын

That is exactly the design I love. A gorgeous bit of tech.

@kimnesvig254 Жыл бұрын

This would get me back and forth from the island. If they can hover for 25 minutes right now, its already capable of making the trip.

@americanspirit8932 Жыл бұрын

?????????????

@seka1986 Ай бұрын

What island?

@maxfrobisher7849 Жыл бұрын

This is really exciting to see - so much potential for development. Would love to see a follow up video.

@LauRoot892 Жыл бұрын

Max 😮

@scottmclaughlin5674 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, all we need to do now is add 16 times the weight in battery capacity..

@farrukhahmad555 Жыл бұрын

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@kerrybarnes7289 Жыл бұрын

unless they can get more out of the battery it has No potential

@ostumbling Жыл бұрын

You should configure your battery packs in parallel so to have redundancy. If one of your packs goes wrong then the whole thing goes down because you are wired in series. Hope you have a good BMS with plenty of heat regulating mosftes and something to regulate cell balancing etc...

@michaelgreen4537 10 ай бұрын

I love it, great video. Keep up the good work, can't wait to fly one. I've been waiting for years !!!

@daapdary Жыл бұрын

Very cool, love the green color. Based on the rotor blade's shape (like an airplane wing) at 10:45, I'm guessing it rotates counter-clockwise?

@SkipSpotter Жыл бұрын

These guys will obviously manage to accomplish decent flying time using batteries very soon. I was wondering if it will be possible to create versions with turbo and other options that liquid fueled versions have? Do the military have battery testing going on at the moment? The military have silent mode on some liquid fueled copters, so with the advent of battery copters, stealth mode should be easier to create?

@EVtripper Жыл бұрын

Are you reading my mind? Can I help? Hire Me! You need regenerative braking to slow the blades down quicker.

@antonydecosta6262 Жыл бұрын

No thanks

@may21136 11 ай бұрын

Bruh

@Pandainapandasuit 11 ай бұрын

Bruh

@pimuce 11 ай бұрын

@@may21136electric helicopter ???

@shaf3006 9 ай бұрын

we need the lightning harness

@aussiedigger1441 Жыл бұрын

Sounds just like my rc helicopters but bigger and better! Love to see come to production.

@seanconnolly2179 Жыл бұрын

Imagine this flies like a t rex dominator 450 😊

@RotoRCol Жыл бұрын

@@seanconnolly2179 but for sure not with someone inside to handle all these G's

@GabrielDeVault Жыл бұрын

@@seanconnolly2179 I wanna see manned tik-tocs!

@emusp Жыл бұрын

It's a 90s setup. :D

@dji.mini.2 Жыл бұрын

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@ThalassTKynn Жыл бұрын

This is a great project, done very well. I look forward to how it develops. Personally I always prefer series hybrid, your battery would effectively become the reserve for if the engine quits, or if you have a sudden power draw for whatever reason. Then the engine can be at its most efficient. It works for trains lol

@okgroomer1966 Жыл бұрын

But what's the point if we charge the batteries with fossil fuels. What has been accomplished other than making more toxic waist from battery production? I'm just not seeing the benefits of going electric. We can never hope to produce enough electricity with sun or wind, so why bother?

@donkihotay5748 Жыл бұрын

@@okgroomer1966 I think Thalass just gave us the point, power train redundancy in the helicopter fixes an imminent danger to life and health...

@michaelmaddy278 Жыл бұрын

Nice looking helicopter, but being all electric would have its drawbacks, range would be affected by head winds, temperature, the draw of instruments, an communication equipment lad well as unforseen weather. To me I don’t think I would want to fly one all electric, I feel the same way about electric cars an trucks, people that have these electric pickups an have tried to tow a trailer ( empty or loaded ) have found out that even being able to tow the range drops significantly an chargers are hard to find an takes a long time to charge them back up if you can find a working charger or one that produced enough wattage to charge the batteries. Electric may provide you with horsepower an instant torque but not the range as of a gas or diesel engine can. Plus their very expensive right now an some have a tendency to catch fire for some reason an the fire burns hotter an is harder to put out than gas or diesel fuel. Maybe in time they can overcome those problems though at my age I may not live to see it. I do wish them luck on their project an that they can get it working.

@denniscummings5219 Жыл бұрын

Thalass, gasoline engine plus generator plus fuel added to the already existing batteries and motors would make it so heavy it would get off the ground.

@illuminatedperspectives2894 Жыл бұрын

25 MINUTES OF FLIGHT TIME? YOU MAY AS WELL GO BACK TO GAS ENGINES. THIS ISNT PROGRESS THIS IS GOING BACKWARDS LOL

@leokimvideo Жыл бұрын

Maybe needs another 15 to 20 years of battery development to be a viable option

@LegendLength Жыл бұрын

They just need to build a hybrid. Slap a small gasoline generator on there and you can use a tiny battery then.

@BoondocTravels Жыл бұрын

Maybe two years

@browntrousersmoment Жыл бұрын

It's interesting how smart phone is progressing...

@peachy3143 Жыл бұрын

Fifty years development wouldn’t get me in it

@aleroscoychiquita 11 ай бұрын

@@LegendLength no hybrids bad for enviroment

@user-cn3np1qh2p 11 ай бұрын

It's amazing the sound that thing still makes! What an awesome job!. It's amazing the sound that thing still makes! What an awesome job!.

@philip_fletcher Жыл бұрын

This is really good to see - the best innovation seems to come from small companies. I realise you're using the existing airframe but the motor and inverter would sit beautifully just below the rotor (like most turbines), benefiting from a cooling downwash and freeing up space to fit the batteries in a more aerodynamic/inboard position.

@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын

While I would put the inverter and the rest of the support package (cooling, etc) below the boom, I agree that placing the motor up there on the shaft from the belt drive pulley to the tail rotor shaft gearbox would free up valuable room immediately behind the mast line, below the boom. For those not familiar with the Emrax motors, I'll note that they have a hollow shaft which would facilitate installation coaxially over a shaft, although the bore of the Emrax 228 model is only 17 mm in diameter.

@sudeeptaghosh Жыл бұрын

yeah less red tape.

@julianroa9905 Жыл бұрын

I would actually use two motors (one for main and the other for tail rotor) mounted directly to each axle to maximise efficiency.

@jessie7315 Жыл бұрын

@@julianroa9905 That would be problematic for autorotation if you had an electrical failure that killed power to both motors.

@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын

@@julianroa9905 separate motors are fine in a radio-controlled toy, but in an aircraft carrying a person they would be an unacceptable (to me) risk, because if high-voltage drive power fails yaw control is lost. It would be okay with sufficient redundancy and a high enough level of design and testing... but this aircraft is not constructed to anything like that level.

@TheWatchmanNews Жыл бұрын

Yea I would like to see the advancements they make on this. That is awesome. Hybrid is the way to go until they come up with a better battery chemistry (or release one anyway). That is so cool! I have been watching the Mosquito helicopters for years on youtube. I don't think I could ever fly one. Ill stick with FAR103 fixed wings. LoL

@Threee_Eyez Жыл бұрын

Besides what it takes to get the cobalt to build the batteries for things like this, I love it.

@valentinvazquez7074 Жыл бұрын

Very impressive the amount of sound out of the equation is excellent for stealth work or hunting whit out spooking everything. 👍

@mydude3254 Жыл бұрын

What do you think (when using custom shaped batteries) would be your company's dream energy density per kilo? Or should I say, what would be a minimum viable energy density for your battery packs to make the heli an attractive option to buyers? Very interesting video guys, very impressive.

@jebise1126 Жыл бұрын

10x more dense than today... for small helicopter that now uses internal combustion engine. for gas turbine ones... 15-20x more energy dense.

@robbennett6053 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see this with the torque reduction and a production ready battery pack.

@vovanikotin Жыл бұрын

I`d love to see utilization battery improvement. Almost noone talks about. All these "green electricity" is bullS without battery utilazion.

@JD-yx7be 7 ай бұрын

@@vovanikotin What is utilization? is that cycle life?

@vovanikotin 7 ай бұрын

@@JD-yx7be yes, end of battery life, not simple dump as garbage, but some kind of refactoring battery chemistry to use in other applications, or full recycle

@JD-yx7be 7 ай бұрын

@@vovanikotin I know the newer LFP batteries can last over 3000 charge cycles over the older 300-500 for NCM batteries but they don't have the energy density and don't work as well in colder temperatures

@Metrofarquhar Жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely do a follow up on this fascinating project!

@arturoreyes5431 Жыл бұрын

Que trabajo tan bueno.....mis Respetos para ese ingeniero lindo trabajo... 💖✊👍

@techworld8961 Жыл бұрын

Are you planning to add any redundancies for the motor and the controller (in case of failure)?

@Dionm01 Жыл бұрын

15:08 Yes I would like to see a follow-up on this. Mainly I'd like to see what the hybrid solution will be. Because as it stands right now full electric is not the answer. But a hybrid would be. But we shall see what their research provides. My thoughts cheers Dion

@user-oh6go8lp4m 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting short.thanks 😊

@nicgilding9952 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a follow-up. I am curious if a generator setup like the Chevy Volt or BMW i3's range extender would work well for something like this.

@jimmym2719 Жыл бұрын

Like the sound👍. Only the flight time is too far from the gas version. I like the mosquitoes design👍. Keep up the good work

@generalvoltage1821 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Please do a follow up with these guys as they continue to develop. 25 mins in the hover is one thing but do they have numbers for actual point to point which is a bit more efficient. Even 25 mins isn't so bad as a point to point hopper if that suits your mission. Half hour charging is fine because you would never fully drain the battery anyway.

@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын

I doubt it gets 5 minutes with a pilot. they even had to edit the seconds long flight and then show a jet powered one. electric airplanes can barely get 20 minutes.

@thecloneguyz Жыл бұрын

How do you auto rotate in an emergency with something that has an electric motor with no clutches to disengage the motor from the blades?

@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын

@@thecloneguyz it looks like the motor powers a belt from the motor to the rotor.

@generalvoltage1821 Жыл бұрын

@@thecloneguyz The drive system is the same arrangement as they use with a piston engine. the belt drive. An electric motor has very low spinning mass and no compression so it may not even be needed to disengage the motor. Or the belt drive has an auto clutch that lets the rotor spin when the motor stops providing power.

@generalvoltage1821 Жыл бұрын

@@frankyflowers The KW draw in the hover and battery capacity seems about right for 20-25 in hover. I assume that's ground effect hover though. They look like Nissan Leaf batteries. Other electric converted helicopters (there is/was a R22 testbed) also got around 20 minutes. They did mention that this is in very early flight test stage so I wouldn't expect them to go far just yet. The Pipistrel Electro 2 seat fixed wing trainer gets one hour flight time plus reserves.

@Rhaug1111 Жыл бұрын

DEFINTELY want to see more follow up on this episode. Any guesses at public release estimates and pricing estimates would be great. Also, with the added weight of either all the batteries or a hybrid style, additional engine/generator, would this aircraft still qualify as an Ultralight according to FAA regulations? The weight was not addressed in this episode.

@irvinewayne4086 9 ай бұрын

I suggest you and the video creator not wasting time on battery-powered heli: it is DOA just from the energy density alone. Don't wanna agree with me? The battery can improve with time? There is a limit from a chemical-thermodynamics alone- pretty much like the second law of thermodynamics ruled out any perpetual motion machine.

@JD-yx7be 7 ай бұрын

@@irvinewayne4086 Not the same thing but i've seen powertool batteries like the m18 Milwaukee go from 2ah 300-400 charge cycles with a 400watt output to 6ah with the same sized and weight and 3000 charge cycles and 1800watt output. There is also improvements to the inverter efficiency and weight too to be had. I remember going to job sites in the late 90s and it being a spaghetti mess of cords cause the battery powertools just weren't up to the task. Today only the air compressor and shop vac seem to be the only corded tools that are common anymore. That is only cause of increasing battery power/energy density. Idk if it will ever improve enough for a transatlantic flight but there is still much room for improvement

@georgiogorge Жыл бұрын

I'd like to know whether they think a separate motor for the tail rotor would be a good idea, particularly if they were clean-sheet designing an electric-only model. How much room for optimization do they think electric motors could allow, if they completely drop provisioning for a traditional drive-train?

@glory122 Жыл бұрын

Matt here. It's an idea we have discussed. We would be able to cut out some of the losses associated with the splitter gearbox for the tail/main rotor, the driveshaft, and tail gearbox. Main thing holding us back is that this would need it's own motor controller, some sort of redundant battery, and rotary encoders for the pedals. You really really don't want to lose tail rotor authority in a helicopter, so it would need a lot of testing. Currently we are testing the electric power-plant before we start thinking about any changes to our drive-line, which is well proven.

@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын

Those tiny model helicopters always have a large gear covering the whole underside of the cabin. I figured that this is the lowest friction solution to get some torque onto the shaft. Hidden from the downwash. Does not obstruct the view. Redundant motors: one in the front, one in the back.

@df3yt Жыл бұрын

Love this 10:00 - You should do a brief talk while hovering as often the mic "gains" down if the overall noise is high meaning it will sound quieter than it really is.

@glory122 Жыл бұрын

Matthew here. It's pretty darn silent at flat pitch, dead silent up until about 1000rpm. However the moment you pull pitch it definitely gets louder. It's a lot quieter than our piston or turbine options, but not silent. One of the interesting things we found was how loud the tail rotor is, especially when rotating, you can hear it chopping through the air.

@Capturing-Memories Жыл бұрын

It's a good idea to put two belts for redundancy but I would put a raised ridge on both pulleys to separate them in case one breaks it won't take the other one.

@SyAt Жыл бұрын

Nice to see it make it in the global market and see the feed back...

@I_AM_ALL_THAT_WAS Жыл бұрын

Of coarse we want to see a follow up video on the all electric. Bring them on. I want more flight test content. Higher altitude please.

@Professorclown Жыл бұрын

Great channel, and great aircraft, too! Could you please break down/list the major components used in this mosquito helo, as some of the parts may be invaluable for people trying to create their own 'contraptions'?

@BudFranks-fu9ye 11 ай бұрын

Awesome. Love helicopter stuff👍

@kitersrefuge7353 7 ай бұрын

Awesome. Battery density is just going to continue to improve so I _really hope you keep the all battery option. The hybrid in my engineering experience would introduce a lot of complexity...but hey, I am not the designer and you already have a fantastic all batt test vehicle.

@fenflyer Жыл бұрын

Nice job 👍 I would be tempted to fit a standard 12kwh underslung battery pack from a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV to keep the centre of gravity as low as possible 🙄 Underslung battery pack probably would help with over the shoulder blind spots from your vertical battery configuration 🤔 But your machine overall is looking 😎👍 I want one 🤠

@fenflyer 10 ай бұрын

@@lurch789 when in EV only mode my Mitsi PHEV will travel @ 85mph for 20-30 miles on electric ... they don't catch fire 💪

@evmotorsports Жыл бұрын

Yes ,any additional info on this build would be awesome . Type and brand of vcu or control unit ,type and brand of bms and details of batteries . Price point of items for conversion would be nice to for others pondering doing their own . Trying to share the info needed to keep the experimentals going! Thamks

@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын

They don't want to say (for legal reasons), but the battery modules appear to be LG Chem 16S 1P as built for the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid van; they were available from many suppliers for a while. It shouldn't need a VCU.

@evmotorsports Жыл бұрын

@@brianb-p6586 Thanks

@dacat8171 8 ай бұрын

Looking great.

@arielsantos8899 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting the development of this work ....,is an inspiration

@Gavs_rc_hobbies Жыл бұрын

It sounds just like some of my radio control helicopters. All you hear is the rotor noise.

@ibiufos Жыл бұрын

It's Great to see companies going electric. I think that a lot of the direction should be put towards the charging as that's the problem with electric systems there should be more work pushed towards charging while running. I know it will take time and it will get there. With more and more companies going in that direction shouldn't be too far away. Much love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺 and fly safe.

@faustinpippin9208 Жыл бұрын

charging while running? you want to fly with a extention cord? lol or you meant charging a different set of batteries while you fly. And the main problem is weight in aircrafts, 25min in hoover is pretty meh....and using up all the rare resources for batteries and all the pollution when making them is also pretty bad

@limamikeaviation6200 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't make sense to have a single seater electric helicopter, just buy a regolar petrol one.

@europaeuropa3673 Жыл бұрын

@@faustinpippin9208 10 hours of charging for a 25 minutes flight. That's not on my bucket list. With all the vibration I would be concerned about those batteries short circuiting, we all know how LiPo behave when on fire.

@wesmahon123 Жыл бұрын

Funny thing about EVs. The more powerful the battery, the heavier it weighs . Not what you want in an aircraft. EVs are not the answer. Very impractical, environmentally unfriendly.

@3210hej Жыл бұрын

@@europaeuropa3673 that is dependant on the charger, i guess they dont have the need to charge faster so they did not buy the faster charger(which is just a case of buying a larger/more powerful one), the biggest concern is the power lines running to the charger, if you try to refuel anything else thru a long straw it takes a long time also.

@David-dv6yv Жыл бұрын

I think it’s a fine job well done !

@DicipleForJesus Жыл бұрын

I'd love to know weight limits and about a small payload version and how far down the road that might be?

@wubforceone Жыл бұрын

i like how he though it was gonna be a 12 or 24 bolt system haha

@RussellD11 Жыл бұрын

LOL, the wires would have to be HUGE...

@missingMBR Жыл бұрын

@@RussellD11 not only that, 12/24 volt has very little torque, and not nearly enough to drive two rotors capable of lifting a load of mass off the ground.

@RussellD11 Жыл бұрын

@@missingMBR agree, but I think if you "could" pump enough amps through at 12-24V it would have quite a bit of torque.. But agree 100% its not the safest, or best way.. Way too much resistance as well at lower volts...

@missingMBR Жыл бұрын

@@RussellD11 sorry I got confused there. Voltage is proportional to speed. Current is proportional to torque. So you're absolutely right. You could throw enormous gauge wires at the motor and achieve the same amount of torque. But is it practical, not very, haha.

@RussellD11 Жыл бұрын

@@missingMBR they "may" also find going to AC voltage like the bigger EV cars use, may have some weight benefits, and lower temperatures..Will be interesting to see how this pans out and what they end up using.

@JamesAskewDVM Жыл бұрын

I’m currently trying to design a hovercraft system that uses a small gas generator to run two electric motors for flying. This should offer more range and less noise.

@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын

Why so complicated?

@JamesAskewDVM Жыл бұрын

Electric motors are light enough to carry a spare as well gas generators. Until battery tech is capable of better power we can get farther on less gas.

@gorillagoldhunters Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!!!!!

@joncollier1934 11 ай бұрын

I would absolutely enjoy a kit for this!!! You build everything else and just leave the battery to me!

@cherylm2C6671 Жыл бұрын

I had no idea it could get this small. That engine is practically sitting in air conditioning. Thank you for your build!

@jamesbizs Жыл бұрын

Motor

@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbizs its the battery pack

@missingMBR Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbizs an engine is a motor and vice versa. The basic definition of engine is a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.

@RCGache Жыл бұрын

Yes, EAC, would love to know more about the future APU (gas motor providing power for an electric motor) option works. Especially would love to know the trade-offs on this type of configuration vs just using battery power plant. In general, would love for you to explore why this type of configuration (APU) works for cars, but why it (seems) to not work in electric aircraft. Thanks for your channel.

@kareemmansour6726 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic and I'm proud of you indeed 😀

@ranaranita2576 Жыл бұрын

This is really good to see, is wonderfull

@trytolookbusy Жыл бұрын

THEY ARE REALLY DOING SOME GOOD STUFF THERE!

@ExperimentalAircraftChannel Жыл бұрын

It is truly interesting... certainly! Thanks for watching!

@galihpa Жыл бұрын

8:50 I'm impressed that the cameraman isn't afraid of getting chopped up by those blades considering it's still a prototype, anything can happen

@wandichanel6622 Жыл бұрын

I'm from Indonesia, I'm very amazed to watch this video and I want to see the next video

@RodrigoSantos-ve7op 3 ай бұрын

Amazing work guys!!! As an aircraft mechanic I get a little worried about not being able to measure battery temperature , or to control it yet, which would bring some concerns about a safe flight.

@msrandihawk Жыл бұрын

Bryan, this is a big step for C-FX. Like he said, the batteries just aren't there yet. They definitely have an interesting concept for sure. Me personally, nothing beats a turbine chopper!

@lancedooley7558 Жыл бұрын

They will never get there. Im in commercial aviation. Its funny idiot engineers trying but wasting money.

@lp712 Жыл бұрын

@@lancedooley7558 Ummmmmm yes… they definitely will … wtf are you talking about??Deal with it buddy

@lancedooley7558 Жыл бұрын

@@lp712 will never happen. Energy density of fuel is 33x of a junk battery. It will never supercede that and it will never beat law of thermodynamics. Just like this rhetoric of climate change delusion by leftist elitist.

@robbienorton9522 Жыл бұрын

Very cool, hopefully they can get more than 20 to 25 minutes flight time out of it in the future

@toddsterling4949 Жыл бұрын

Not until batteries become lighter and more powerful!!!

@robbienorton9522 Жыл бұрын

@@toddsterling4949 as they said there is still a lot of tuning to do, but I have a feeling you're correct for the most part.

@Are0hEssEss Жыл бұрын

It sounds just like my large, RC heli but lower pitched, of course. My brain was waiting for the head speed to audibly increase as he flipped it in to idle-up mode. 🙃

@bahia1972 5 ай бұрын

Great job, 👍

@SirTools Жыл бұрын

Weight seems to be the issue over all else. Would love to see a follow up :)

@lancedooley7558 Жыл бұрын

Always will be. Lol

@darksu6947 Жыл бұрын

No fat chicks!

@wrayday7149 Жыл бұрын

Nothing else comes to mind? You know, with the guys head being higher than the rotors. Nothing else strikes you as a concern?

@Rose.Of.Hizaki Жыл бұрын

range is also an issue. 25mins is like a trip down the shops for a pint of milk and back.

@lancedooley7558 Жыл бұрын

@@Rose.Of.Hizaki 25 minutes is a joke. Thats just hovering let alone going 60mph. 😂😂 This forced green scam is nothing but a scam for carbon credits to avoid taxes.

@bgdexter Жыл бұрын

With a SEVCON Gen4 and an LG battery, this is clearly a flying Twizy … even the lacking doors are there ^_^

@tombenson5957 5 ай бұрын

The Wright Bros are alive and well

@khmer6394 Жыл бұрын

Amazing !!

@berloma Жыл бұрын

Great to see an electric helicopter, even that it is a prototype it is a good start. Very quiet and easy to fly as far as I can see. With future improvements on battery density this will be viable. Another idea is to use a Hydrogen fuel cell. That will give a bit longer fly time.

@T_Fantico Жыл бұрын

Cool in concept. Maybe someday we'll overcome that whole energy density thing.

@limamikeaviation6200 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't make sense, just buy a Cabri or R22 and you got a better helicopter today, not in 10 years.

@Rockingruvin Жыл бұрын

Much better batteries are on the horizon.

@caseysingletary9260 Жыл бұрын

LOL yeah, you know, just buy a $300,000-$400,000 helicopter instead, because you know, the average person just has that laying around 🤣

@limamikeaviation6200 Жыл бұрын

@@caseysingletary9260 It won't cost less than a piston engine helicopter, it just can't because of the scale economy. Want proof of this claim? Just think about the Pipistrel, the electric version cost more the the piston one. Not the other way around.

@caseysingletary9260 Жыл бұрын

@@limamikeaviation6200 if this kit ever does make it to market, it will not cost nearly as much as a cabri or R22. End of discussion. Toss all the words out you want, that will always be a fact.

@gideonram4607 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful! Goof job guys!

@HamptonsStreetDoc Жыл бұрын

I live on the north fork of Long Island, (NY), work on the south fork, and driving takes 45-55mins, with one of these it’d take me less than 10 mins. Take my money!! 25 mins is more than enough to get me to work and normally work 24hr shifts so I could charge during the shift.

@nelsonjames4102 Жыл бұрын

These things are perfect for pilot training ☺️

@scottmclaughlin5674 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, if the school charges by the quarter hour...

@mrpumperknuckles1631 Жыл бұрын

No it’s not good practice… they have simulator cockpits for a reason… a lot of people won’t die this way.

@Friedbrain11 Жыл бұрын

I built my own batteri\y packs and they worked just fine. I am not an "engineer" but making battery packs and wiring them correctly with the BMS and other requirements is not difficult nor does it require an engineer.

@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын

"nor does it require an engineer" but it helps if you know what you are doing.

@GabrielDeVault Жыл бұрын

This is a terrible attitude. Battery powered aircraft are no joke. A fiery death like the Siemens tragedy is the worst way to go. Please don't trivialize the risks.

@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын

You can make your own packs, but they won't be any more energy-dense than the properly designed modules that they are using, so there's no point.

@Anautistictherapist Жыл бұрын

Be sure and tell that to John Denver when you see him.

@10OZDuster Жыл бұрын

for a full size flying helicopter ? show us a video

@frankbalazs8816 10 ай бұрын

WAAAAAAY TO DANGEROUS!!! MIGHT AS WELL FLY IN A BEER CAN!!!😂😂😂

@emredemirelsworld Жыл бұрын

Amazing 😍

@alishanmao Жыл бұрын

I would take this helicopter any time over all those 4 and tons of motors electric manned drones that are tend to crash one day sooner or later if one motor goes down. this helicopter with conventional system (but electric power) will still do auto gyro landing if motor goes out. the safest and best, most efficient way to fly is helicopter and now we have electric wow. Wish I had money or wish you were hiring, i would love to come and work with you guys :)

@jimj2683 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the quadcopters are cheaper to make?

@dronepilot260rc Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they let you test one out 🤓

@alishanmao Жыл бұрын

@@jimj2683 cheaper and easier, thats why everyone goes that way. its just scaled up drones with seats. not safe at all. one rotor has issues and you crash. imagine having a life on board. With this helicopter, it will do auto gyro landing, and if they provide a parachute for whole system that would be even double safe. I would take helicopters any time with eyes closed over those new drones coming out with so much promises but no safety features at all.

@alishanmao Жыл бұрын

@@dronepilot260rc i would love to, if they allow me to test it. i would even work for them in development team and test pilot :)

@Ostsol Жыл бұрын

My exact thoughts. I don't trust anything that can't land unpowered.

@CarbonGlassMan Жыл бұрын

I love the idea of a hybrid. Something like the Chevy Volt where the gas engine provides enough electricity by turning the generator. That's also how a diesel electric train works.

@jebise1126 Жыл бұрын

do you know why trains work like that?

@pheirphon4680 13 күн бұрын

Go same Shaft/Parallel Circuit. It is a safer way to charge or produce needed velocity because it is running with the main current power source. For minor or emergency circuit producers, you can thermal or solar charge. But don't forget about the wind turbine charge you are producing with the blades/propellers generating. Small is always better done having nothing. 😊