ACP393 What You Need To Know About Logging Flight Time Before You Take A Part 135 Job.

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Ай бұрын

In today’s episode, we answer a question from a listener concerning logging time as a pilot when operating as a flight instructor and as a Part 135 pilot. You might be surprised by what some operators are doing to attract pilots.
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Not all flight time is created equal.
Are you flight instructing or working for a 134 and ½?
Some employers advertise SIC time but are you simply sitting in the right seat?
Why airlines are skeptical when it comes to flight time outside of 121?
Avoiding Bad Decisions While Building Flight Time.
Is your student using the lesson as a business flight?
What is legal and what is not?
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@ahmedaydoner7915 Ай бұрын

Another amazing episode! How does it work with these time building places? I see online a few places in FL, CO, AZ where you can go and build 100, 200, 300+ hours and the cost is reduced because you’re flying with another pilot building their time as well. They say you can both log the time but is that true? I’m new to the industry, I only have two discovery flights under my belt here in Clearwater and St. Pete (Both of which I loved). It’s hard to decipher what is true and what is not

@legalapproach Ай бұрын

The schools often say you can log the time with another pilot, but it is not their logbook, certificates, or career on the line. Make sure to ask what their basis is for having two pilots log time simultaneously. If they cannot provide a clear explanation - move on to another idea. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

@ahmedaydoner7915 Ай бұрын

@@legalapproach great advise. Thank you

@bbryant2002 Ай бұрын

Around the 9 min mark we talk about if it’s not the owner it falls under that 135/121 veil. What about business owned aircraft flying it’s associates but the official owner is no aboard the aircraft?

@AviationCareersPodcast Ай бұрын

Great question. We will be discussing this in our next episode.

@bbryant2002 Ай бұрын

@@AviationCareersPodcast sweet will be hitting that bell :)

@Jahmalthepilot Ай бұрын

Do the airlines respect flight time as a safety pilot? I have quite a bit of safety pilot time. I know it’s all legal PIC time under 61.51 (e) and 91.109 (b)(c) but I don’t want to get looked at differently by a potential employer because I wasn’t necessarily the sole manipulator of the controls for every single hour of PIC time.

@AviationCareersPodcast Ай бұрын

Great question. We will be discussing this in our next episode.

@legalapproach Ай бұрын

Safety Pilot Time usually holds up if it is in compliance with the FARs you mentioned. That being said, an airline might be concerned if too much of your time is Safety Pilot. If you have a lot of safety pilot time, consider adding some other types of flight time. Solo, in particular, is valuable because it demonstrates an ability to operate the aircraft without the assistance of a second pilot.

@thisisurcaptain Ай бұрын

If a company has an Argus rating I don't think anyone with low time is going to be working there because typically they require 3000 hours.

@AviationCareersPodcast Ай бұрын

I recommend pilots looking to work for a quality operation and gain quality time review the Argus and Wyvern ratings. These companies may require more flight time because 3000 hours is still considered a low time pilot by most in the profession.

@Hedgeflexlfz Ай бұрын

The FTC banned training agreements

@legalapproach Ай бұрын

The FTC has banned non-compete agreements. It is not clear yet if that will extend to training bonds. I suspect it will not prohibit training bond agreements. Also, never sign an agreement you do not intend to honor.

@Hedgeflexlfz Ай бұрын

@@legalapproach It does ban repayment agreements except for high level executives or people making over 200k a year.

@johnwhite3455 Ай бұрын

I thought that was a cat paw in the thumbnail

@AviationCareersPodcast Ай бұрын

Looks a bit ominous doesn't it.

@thisisurcaptain Ай бұрын

At 8:00 you grazed over 14 CFR part 91 operations when mentioned not being able to carry someone else's property. That's untrue. Part 91 operations exist. If the owner provides the plane the you can fly anyone one the plane. You just cannot charge or get reimbursed for this. And usually the owner of the airplane knows this because they understand tax code etc. You mentioned the flying SIC not being able to log time. This is only partly true. They can can give you a 14 CFR Part 61.55 sign off for aircraft requiring two pilots where you can legally log the time without a pdp. It's an endorsement from a CFI or MEI. Also you didn't discuss the 14 CFR 91K fractional ownership which is a case of several owners for one airplane. I.e. a construction firm and real estate developer purchase an aircraft jointly and hire a pilot or crew.

@AviationCareersPodcast 28 күн бұрын

We have helped many people correct errors in their logbooks. To find out more visit www.aviationcareerspodcast.com/coaching/. I always recommend a private and confidential logbook review to avoid mistakes being published publicly.