I saw Bodes twist coming. Wasn't expecting him to be a jedi.

I was suss of Bode when he shot Cordova. Thought that was a bit of a weird decision. When he force choked Merrin that was when I was like "yep, right, he's not a good guy."

Honestly, Bode being a Jedi makes so much sense on second playthrough. He knew a lot about the order and even telling Cal to “search your insticts” right before the reveal

No wonder it looks so similar to Dagan’s in the ending. Never expected bode to pick it up and least expected when he turns out to be a Jedi. I thought it just was his lightsaber he hid somewhere 😂

At the beginning when he splits off to get the tie fighters off of Cal and the other guy and he just disappears, only to come back perfectly fine, I knew something was off. But they did a great job making you write it off and like him. Man, this game is so good. And great job giving clarity to things that people didn't read or missed.

What I also think people don't seem to grasp is why he betrayed Cal. Bode and Cal's ideals were pretty much completely aligned until Cal decided he wanted to use Tanalorr for the hidden path which would make it that much more likely for the empire to find. Bode just wanted a safe place away from the empire so he could stop working for Denvik as a spy and raise his daughter in a safe place. He was helping Cal because it would've given him a way out and a safer life for his family and he was willing to let Cal be a part of that. Bode and Cal did become friends and he gave Cal plenty of chances to change his mind about bringing the hidden path but when he wouldn't budge, that's when Bode took it too far. He was just trying to have a safer life but went about it the wrong way

A cool thing to notice on a repeat playthrough is that Bode keeps subtly trying to turn Cal away from Jedi ideals. He gives him a blaster, which the Jedi would frown on, he encourages him to pursue a relationship with Merrin, which the Jedi would frown on. All of this to try to convince (or manipulate, if you will) Cal to stop trying to do the Jedi thing, fighting the Empire and working with the Hidden Path. He really wanted Cal and his family to go to Tanalorr with him and his daughter, and live there peacefully.

If you go back to the Archives in Jedha and interact with the Force Echo near the Imperial training dummy, you will find out that Bode wanted to use Cal's love for Merrin against him; to manipulate him into doing what he wants. That's also why Bode was trying to ask questions regarding Cal's relationship with Merrin multiple times in the Bog area on Koboh.

I just gotta say HUGE respect for being one of extremely few to have a clever title and a discreet thumbnail as well as giving a very notable spoiler warning message. Since a ton of the star wars community especially around media suck super hard and will post videos and thumbnails not caring about spoilers for others the day the game comes out if not earlier. I already beat the game but still I had to put it out there that I wish more people had this courtesy since I got spoiled a little bit before the game even came out on KZfaq

I was suspicious when Bode happened to be the only person to leave Coruscant alive other than Cal.

Man, this game had a lot of foresight, in the setup for this game. I like how they have Force Echoes that help explained a lot of Bode's motives throughout the entire game.

I saw Bode's betrayal coming, but not until right before. I did not expect him to be a force user. Then they got me again by revealing he'd worked for Denvik during the Clone Wars.

I was one of the people that definitely didn't see Bode's betrayal coming. When Cal first told Bode that he wanted to share Tanalorr with the Hidden Path and Bode had a somewhat disappointed reaction, I knew something was going on but I had no clue that Bode was going to completely betray you, nor did I expect him to be a past Jedi. The entire final act of the game is just surprise after surprise.

Bode might’ve started off as just a spy but I believe he had genuinely switched sides when they discovered Tanalorr. It wasn’t until Cal decided to change their plans and make Tanalorr a base for the rebellion did he actually decide to betray them again.

Something I noticed(probably nothing) was that one of the first things we see bode do in the game is shoot that stormtrooper in the back(close enough to stabbing). I could be reading too deep but I like to think it was a very subtle foreshadowing

I literally said to Bode as he helped me up for the first time, "You're the final boss aren't you?"

I knew something about bode was off when we fought dagan for the last time and bode wanted to stay behind so randomly

Every time I hear Bode talk I just hear Charles from RDR2

During to one of the conversations Bode had with Cal about his daughter, he said that he was gonna go and record a bed time story for her. That line alone gave me the feeling that Bode was about to die at some point to the story, so my surprise when he revealed himself to be a traitor and a former Jedi really kicked me in the guts

I saw the twist happening, but only when I started to belive that he wouldn't do it he did. Bode is a fantastic character, and a brilliant foil to Cal. A genuinely fantastic story with fantastic characters.

Killing Cordova was probably THE most unnecessary thing he's ever done. Cordova's death was worse than the previous performance issues

The reveal that he was force sensitive totally caught me by surprise but it makes sense when you realize he was running into fights alongside Cal with no armor or protection and coming out without a scratch on him.

All the fact that he sounds and is played by the same actor as Charles from Red dead redemption 2, both played awesomely well.

I like how if you pay attention to what Bode talks about he’ll occasionally lie or talk about some random nonsense that probably didn’t happen. And just be like, later Cal, to cover his tracks.

I also think people miss why Cal willingly embraced the Dark Side for a bit after he lost Cere. Cal lost both Jaro Tapal and Cere Junda to betrayal. The difference is that Cal didn't have the connection to the clones that he did to Bode. The clones were soldiers; Cal was their commander. They were friendly and treated him well, but they had a very clear boss/subordinate relationship. Bode and Cal became close enough that they considered each other brothers and best friends. They had the same goal: protecting their families from the Empire. Bode became part of the crew of the Stinger Mantis and, by association, part of Cal's new family. To Cal, Bode betrayed their family and caused the death of Cere to serve his own self-interest. A man he thought he knew turned out to be something else, and everything Cal thought he knew was thrown out the window.

I thought its gonna be a video explaining why he's so buff. Obviously because he's a... Bode builder

The point was the saber blaster stance was a sign the whole time

They clearly showed Cal taking Dagan's lightsaber off of Bode at the end. I don't see how this was even a topic of discussion.

I expected him to be a traitor...but not a force user

Idk about you guys but as soon bode called cal "brother" I knew what was up

How did people miss him getting Dagans Lightsaber. Thought it was obvious

Bode being a Jedi was a very nice plottwist ! Him being a traitor was predictable. But the Jedi part was like "The Writers outsmarted your outsmarting" and i find that very funny.

one thing i noticed which probably means nothing but Cal tells bode may the force be with you and bode just says youre a good fighter

I 100% had a feeling bode was going to backstab, but when he used the force I was stunned.

Theres a note right after you lose your first fight against Bode that says that he took Degan's lightsaber

Still an interesting plot twist even tho from the jump I knew Bode would betray by the end of the game they did several things that I wasn't expecting. 1st being that that betrayal would happen after we killed the big bad, that he was a force user himself, and that he had been working as a deep undercover operative and not just someone who was trying to earn favor with the empire. So I was half right on how his character would turn out at least but that still didn't stop his character arc from being any less amazing.

People keep saying they saw his betrayal coming from when he acted strange on Jedha, but I didn’t (well I expected betrayal, just not from that scene). I thought the reason why he strangely excused himself from there was because Merrin was walking up. I thought he was being a bro and excusing himself so his bro could talk with the girl he liked.

It didn’t make sense to me that Bode, who didn’t seem totally aligned with the dark side, would choose to bleed his crystal. Makes more much sense now I know it wasn’t his lightsaber!

I had the gut feeling that he was working for the empire right from the beginning. He was way to eager to befriend Cal, and the way he "flew off" on Coruscant to distract the tie fighters was super sus. But, the fact that he was a force user really caught me off guard. Although, it makes more sense that he survived that fight with Dagan, after knowing that.

I think that Bodes reveal was such good writing. You are so caught up with Bodes betrayal (whether you saw it coming or not) just like Cal is in game that when he reveals what he is you’re just completely dumbfounded and blindsided by it. It was absolutely gorgeous storytelling, they just hit you with the one-two punch. And then later when you catch up with Bode and chase him down in that Imperial facility, and activate the Dark Side for the first time it’s so poetic. Because before Cal was always running from the monsters of the dark side, but now *he* is the monster chasing down someone else. He literally tears through the base screaming Bodes name it’s such a horrific moment when playing as Cal (I mean its badass as hell too, but you’re so caught up in the power of it and wanting to kill Bode as much as Cal does that you don’t realize until after when you see the aftermath for yourself).

when i wrapped the dagen fight, it's obvious he's up to no good. you can chat him up afterwards in the room and says something like 'you go ahead, bring the news to the rest of the team, i'll stay here' and never says why, super sketchy. he does that at various other points too, but at that point i was already angry that i couldn't loot dagen's cool looking saber, so i knew exactly what he wanted.

Could you imagine living with that snake on Tanalor?

The story was so dark well done. I really felt betrayed.

I'm more confused about the fact that, Bode took a data disc from the observatory, apparently DIDN'T watch it, and then just left it out in his quarters for Cal to find. The very same data disc that had info on the back way into Tanalor..........Bode....A IMPERIAL INTELLIGENCE AGENT, DIDN'T WATCH A DATA DISC HE STOLE?! He acts surprised that Cal managed to get to Tanalor so it isn't like he left it out for him to use. I KNOW it's just deus ex machina to show how cal can get to Tanalor without the compass but it DOES feel like a lazy bit of writing from a mostly solid plot.

I realized it when he ignited the red blade on Jedha. It was so obvious. How can people miss that?

I fully expected a betrayal. I did not expect him to be a force user.

I could definitely see bode’s betrayal coming, but i did NOT see coming that he was a JEDI 💀💀

My god, he really did pull the lightsaber from there

Honestly, it’s really good you made this video; I was lucky that I noticed it was Dagan’s during the final duel, but that can be a pretty easy-to-miss detail during a scene or fight like that. All in all, I suspected since Coruscant that Bode was a spy of sorts, but I knew for certain as soon as when he picked up interest after hearing Cal and Greeze discuss Tanallor. As such, after the fight with Dagan, I did have a sneaking suspicion he took his sober and would use it against Cal, but I genuinely never expected him to be a force user at all. Overall, the spy idea was a nice semi red herring to use, and overall Bode made for an amazingly compelling main antagonist.

I think it´s so cool to know Bode was a Jedi knight serving with Lank Denvik, which helped Bode and his daughter to survive, if he´d get access to Cal and his crew, and what they worked on.

I think everyone “saw” the twist coming. I mean what person isn’t skeptical of a new character that we know very little about joining the protagonists journey. However its not a lazy twist by any stretch no matter how many people are sitting here saying “I knew this was going to happen from the beginning” What I think the game does very very well is let down the players guard a lot over the course of the game. You the player (just like cal) become close to bode and trust him more as the story progresses and you learn about his daughter. The game introduces you and preoccupies your attention with the main villains and throughout Bode is there to help and fight along side you the whole way. That’s what makes the twist so shocking despise being skeptical of Bode since the beginning. Oh that and making him a former Jedi and being the “Survivor” was just an amazing addition.

"You get that off a corpse?" - Saw Gerrera

I noticed it was Degans in the end of the game when Cal picked it up. Bode took half of it

What's up Mr.H - this is Noshir, the actor for Bode Akuna. Enjoyed watching your video! And THANK YOU for not being one of those douchey KZfaqrs who plasters the spoilers all over your thumbnail and title. And then including a spoiler warning in your video! Class act. Also... "Where was he keeping that lightsaber???" hahaha

Bode truly was the Jedi Survivor…

I mean to be fair, Cal was hiding that big half of Jaro Tapal's lightsaber on him for like 5 years.

It was so funny to me. When Bode stays behind with Dagan's body, I said outloud jokingly to myself: in before he's an imperial spy. Que him being an imperial spy and my heart breaking.

I had a feeling he was not to be trusted but playing next to him for the while his betrayal actually hurt, my mission was to get my revenge lol 😂

The mystery that I still can't figure out is what his motivation was? From the time Cal learned of the planet, he said it would be a great place for anyone to hide from the empire, not just exclusively jedi. After his daughter was saved from the empire, why does he continue? He was even offered the chance to give up and be forgiven, granting him and Kata the refuge that was supposedly his motivation, in the final confrontation.

Gotta say, his thought process, or lack there of, really bugged me. I mean, what seven year old kid doesn’t want to be a hermit on an uninhabited planet? It is a solid overall story, and I really appreciate that Merrin straight up mentions his lack of reasoning.

wow, someone who doesn't spoil the big thing in the title? deserve a like just for that

I didn't actually notice this in the ending until I started finding the echoes, where I found the echo where he takes Dagen's lightsaber. It's pretty interesting that the devs did this, and its cool that they're all dotted around the place . To be honest, I feel like I may have missed one or two.

I always thought Bode was asking too many questions at the start

They need to up the redness on the red lightsabers. They look more dark orange in the sun this was never an issue in fallen order. Need that pure crimson red look in all lighting conditions not just dark areas. Like every other red lightsaber appearance ever. Same can be said for blue as well lighting should not affect the color of the lightsaber as the lightsaber is just that it's own light source. They need to update them to be more vibrant basically

Was it unexpected? I didn’t trust him from the prologue, it’s great writing and acting but he just gave off bad vibes - he helped but he only helped *just* enough - at one point you have to jump puzzle up a lot of towers & you get to the top to find him stood there, yeah I get the game aspect but that’s a red flag, he didn’t fly in to meet you, he was stood there waiting & it’s also an enemy base where he’d stick out in the open

He’s actually Charles Smith?

I figured he just hid it under his jetpack, like maybe the jetpack had a holster or something.

The whole game I was screaming, "Stop giving Mr Side-eye information!" "Why are you telling the sus new guy everything!" "Where is Bode's daughter? With the Empire, that's where." "You haven't even seen Tanalorr yet, why are you discussing what you're going to do with it?!? Your last bit of info on the place, was that it was being attacked! It could be occupied. It could be gone!"

Okay so since this video has spoilers I think we can talk about it. This is gonna sound like BS but I promise I’m being truthful. On the first play through before Bode turns on you, I had a feeling there was something up with him. I didn’t at all know or think he was a Jedi but I did 100% think that he might double cross you. And sure enough he fucking did. God damn it Bode 😩

I thought his reason for betrayal was very paper thin and seen it coming, especially after Cal left behind Dagan's lightsaber. The fact he was a Jedi however came out of no where that was well hidden. Thought Bode would have been much as a character with some minor tweaks: - Keep that fact that he was a Jedi and during Order 66, used his intelligence and espionage training to vanish and went to work for the Empire after Order 66. Have it revealed that Vader would have known he was a Jedi and turned him into a new type of Sith Lord; an undercover Sith Lord to befriend Jedi's and rebel factions. While not as powerful as other Sith Lords give him the unique ability to mask his presence, his intentions and force alignment from Jedi's like Cal who can sense it - Remove his Daughter entirely as a character, but keep her around as a talking point from Bode who used it to gain sympathy from Cal and company given there backstory. When Cal catches up to him on Nova Garron have Bode tell him his daughter is fake. - Have him reveal his was tasked with Killing Cere and was using Cal to get close to her, with the Empire (Palpatine specifically) not seeing Cal as a threat despite his recent actions against the Empire. Vader however is somewhat intrigued by Cal and thinks he could be a great Inquisitor. Him stumbling across Cordova and seeing how Cal is far stronger then Vader and Palpatine thought and the Jedi Order is actually starting to regain it's footing would have thrown a wrench in his plans and has to wait for new orders. During this wait he actually starts to see Cal as an actual friend. When the new orders come in; find the base, determine it's defensive strength, disable their defenses and let Vader kill Cordova and Cere and capture Cal hoping the loss of his mentors would turn him to the Dark Side. Bode, now having grown to like Cal, and not wanting him to fall to the Dark Side kills Cordova himself to lure Cal far away from Vader's inevitable arrival to save him. Bode would inform Vader that he killed Cordova in self defense; with Cordova "figuring out" his identity and he "killed" Cal himself and secretly plans to run away with the Compass to save himself having betrayed Vader for Cal. Bode also knew that if Cal's friends were there to comfort him, they wouldn't allow him to fall to the Dark Side. - Cal, not seeing it that way, pursues him with his friends. Cal wants Bode to give up and to use Tannalor as a safe haven for those who want to run from the Empire and wants to forgive Bode for his betrayal. Bode; hurt Cal didn't see it his way snaps and attacks, saying he gave up everything for Cal, with Cal being forced to kill Bode

Thought Bode was shifty right from the start in Jedi: Survivor. Was just waiting for him to double cross me. Biggest question I have is why none of the other Jedi around him sensed he was a force user.

The darkest thing about the night before the betrayal is that Bode was already planning on killing Cal. Bode explained that he had to kill Cordova becuase Cal was going to give the compass to the hidden path. But even before this, Bode tells Cal "maybe just the two of us should go to Tanalor to scout ahead". This dude wanted to lure Cal there by himself to kill him.

Early on i suspected bode of being a spy. After he shows up at pyloons saloon I thought "How'd he know where to find cal". Then when he's present during every cinematic im thinking "this guys a traitor, hes a spy, hes gonna rat us out on jedha" It wasnt until after the second playthrough i saw cal giving him a tracker to follow him after Coruscant, detail i missed first time. So it was by my own mistake i accidentally called it. The lightsaber was a shock though.

🤔🎭 You haven't explained why he resembles Javier Bardem

Literally from the beginning i was like „bro this dude gonna sell us out for the empire“ but slowly i was like „wait is he?“ Then i was(seemingly) close to beating the game so i was like „damn guess i guessed wrong“ Then after „finishing“ the game, his twist happened and i was shocked. Like it seemed obvious but the way they did it was perfect so you dont expect it but it also doesent come out of nowhere. If this game was a bit more polished(and its not even that bad tbh just some frame drops) it would easily be 10/10

Now I hate him even more

why are people so hung up on this, but not the entire betrayal not making any sense?

I'm surprised this detail was apparently so elusive to people. I guess I can't expect everyone to see everything I see but at the same time, that is a _nice_ hilt. The second Bode pulled it out, I recognised it as Dagan's and I noticed it to the point that for a brief minute, I thought the twist was that Dagan had somehow disguised himself and swapped places with Bode.

As soon as he said, “I am going to hang back” I knew something was up with him

The moment the whole crew died but the one dude that was brand new to the squad survives; I knew something was up

If im being honest i didn't expect this because i wasnt paying attention to bode's character because i was distracted by better characters

You can tell the Bode was really trying to get Cal to turn, or at least give up being a Jedi with the questions he asks throughout the story. Kind of like he didn't want to have to fight Cal, but have him as an actual ally/friend. My opinion though lol

On the second playthrough, I realized how only Bode returned and I was like "So that's why he isn't dead."

I had absolutely no idea that bode was going to do the ol switch-a-roo

I didn't see the twist coming, because i was completely convinced Bode was gonna die, well, he does die, but you know what i mean

Once he pulled it out i knew right away he looted Dagan

Crazy I knew since Coruscant, bro kept calling me “scrapper” cuz Cal tells him once he did work on Bracca, never in the dialogue does he hold you as a Jedi to be unique. Like go back and he never says “nice work jedi” or ANYTHING like that with Jedi in it

I guessed it when he wouldn’t say may the force be with you back to cal.

the third compass breaking into pieces is also probably bodes idea to stall cal and cordova so the empire can prepare for an assault on jedha

I had him pinned as a traitor right from the start. It was so obvious, it was practically a cliche with the numerous coincidences and giveaway lines. But that's the genius of the second twist. The first was so obvious that we never saw the second twist coming.

I love the echo's that reference parts of the game that you've already play through. there's a couple great one's in the imperial base that you infiltrate towards the end of the game

The thing I'll never understand is Dagan's lightsaber progression. It starts off as a single blade which he corrupts turning red, then on his second encounter on the control tower he's made it dual bladed and able to split, just like Cal's. I'd understand if Dagan took inspiration from Cal, but wouldn't that need a second Kyber crystal? Where did he find that? And why is it that when Bode takes it, it becomes single bladed again? I could understand if Bode could only use a single bladed in combination with his blasters, but I doubt he'd only take half of Dagan's saber for himself.

Even without searching for the echoes, I found out it was Dagan's from the tactical guide

It's not even the only place it says it. Says it right in the story pages in the data bank. I forgot which one, but one of em says something like Bode, armed with Dagan Geras lightsaber, confronts Cal or something similar. I hadn't even seen the force echo about it lol.

The twist was done very well.

“Unexpected twist” I saw it coming

I had a feeling he’d be a traitor but I was pretty shocked when he pulled out a lightsaber

When Bode suggested to Cal that they should go to Tanalorr first to check things out i was like uh-oh.

That makes so much more sense. Thanks for the explanation, man.

As soon as he tried to push Cal into love I already knew.