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ExplainingComputers Do you find it exciting to have Windows 10 on the PI ? Cause frankly I don't get it. We already have linux which does 110% of what we need. Why would someone want to use Windows in this context ? Just trying to make sense of it...

Francois Ste-Marie I find it exciting that Microsoft want to include Pi hardware in their IoT ecosystem. You are absolutely right that Linux covers all bases on the Pi. But I think it is good to Windows (and the rest of us) for Microsoft to be reaching out to hardware like the Pi.

Jeff Thomas Thanks Jeff. :)

+Christobanistan and your thread necro is disturbing. Try commenting on a fresh topic. P.S. - W10 is still garbage on the pi.

Christobanistan Thank you for the info.

Moses Prefor Yes, it is a bit disappointing . . . Nothing like a version of Windows RT, for example. Something like that would have made us all very happy -- even just a desktop with a cut-down version of Word and a browser . . . Never mind, I will be showing you lots of really fun non-Microsoft stuff on the Pi 2 fairly soon now! :)

ExplainingComputers People just don't get it. It never meant to be a proper desktop, but a host for applications you can develop yourself. What about hosting web server, which can work with real hardware, while using enterprise scale language like C# with VisualStudio. Add couple of nice things like ReSharper, remote debugging, and type safety of C#. I can knock on something useful without ever leaving Windows world: no Python, no *nix, just pure enterprise stuff.

daynater Right now, I simply don't know. You can use Microsoft's Visual Studio 2015 RC to write and deploy apps to the Pi (which can then run on boot), so it depends how sophisticated these can get. These are very early days.

+Robert Campbell Yes, you can develop apps for the Pi 2 in Visual Studio.

Guy Techie no. It's just the terminal.

+SwizzleDude that's quite unfortunate. Wish MS would develop a compatible remote desktop application for the pi

I was hoping for a gui like the pc win10

casaverdero Sadly that is not what we get. At least you know now. :(

casaverdero Well, the target is IoT so a desktop would not only be useless but actually be harmful since it would take up a lot of resources for no good reason. To be honest, I don't see the point of putting windows on it since any linux will do the job just as well if not better.

Francois Ste-Marie Agreed. But I felt I had to make the video just to show what Microsoft has created for the Pi . . .

casaverdero Very much so... when this was announced it was made to seem as if it would be a full ARM-based Windows release, not limited to tinkerers. Pretty disappointing in the way the headlines covered the story - I honestly had no idea until now that it was never supposed to be a full release.

+fcantil As far as I am aware, very little. Probably just bug fixes and such.

ExplainingComputers Okay, thank you very much!

Mark Blake It doesn't! The Pi 1 is ARMv6, and Win 10 IoT requires ARMv7, which is only available on the Pi 2. Sorry!

IndieMarkus You can certainly do GPIO programming under Windows 10 on the Pi -- that is exactly the kind of stuff Microsoft are intending; using the Pi for reading sensors and so on. I will try to make video on this as soon as I can! :)

ExplainingComputers That's great to hear - I'm really looking forward to seeing this video. Do you know what kind of peripherals you will be using? To be blunt: what I'm looking for is how to use morors with external power supply^^

+Epic Win Face Pie Sadly not, Windows IoT is Pi 2 only.

Kevin Hannan Hi Kevin, I see what you mean, and will be returning to GPIO videos later in the Summer. Time remains my limiting factor here, though this may well change fairly soon . . . :)

If your time circumstances change, I hope it is in your favour. Good luck.

+MegaGamer328 Sadly no, you cannot run a version of the normal Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi. But you can run other full operating systems -- look out for my new video on Sunday (31st Jan)! :)

Ok thanks I have just always been used to Windows

You are right -- I must do a follow-up on this! Reactions at the time were rather hostile to running Windows IoT on a Pi . . .

Yes, I agree that there were quite hostile comments about it. I think it has something to do with the fact you can't run anything on IoT except a project you developed. Which is a shame, but I think the Visual Studio IDE is quite nice to do that, and it will allow you to do breakpoints and such really easy. Thanks for your reply!

Mark Blake Don't you just stick the WiFi dongle in a USB port? I'm sure that's all I did. I was using Raspbian. Thankfully this Windows 10 crap isn't an option on the ArmV6 Pi models.

well yes i tried , but in order for that i had to keep taking my key board , because there is only 2 USB ports to set up the adapter,, the pi turns off when i try to do that .

Mark Blake USB hub?

Mark Blake You will need a powered USB hub that has a separate power adaptor if the Pi is turning off. The Pi can only supply a certain amount of current to each USB device while having to run itself at the same time. I would suggest a logitech USB wireless keyboard and mouse combo. They both run off 1 receiver and the other USB port can then be used for the WiFi provided the WiFi adaptor doesn't use too much power. The one I have works fine that way.

+Lord_Steveuk260 I take your point, though the issue is with Microsoft -- my title "Raspberry Pi 2 Windows 10" is what they call this installation. :)

Improve your reading comprehension skills.

Joel Rivera Yes. :)

ExplainingComputers cool

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What a waste

+Adam Arnold About 17 megabit download.

ExplainingComputers could you perhaps do a video on a simple toggle switch with leds for the pi? i cant find how to do it anywhere, i just wanna make green and red leds toggle one off and one off exetera.

Steven De Kock Thanks for this. It is something I must try! :)

ExplainingComputers It's not really targeted to end users. It's more for the enterprise market where they need to tighten security and allow easy remote/centralised management. Windows IoT is ideal for kiosks, digital signage, PoS systems, metering, ... it allows for easy complete customization of the UI in a plethoria of programming languages, from html/js to XAML/C# and DirectX/C++. Without having to jump through hoops to remove the Windows Shell (explorer, start, ...). Windows IoT has a lot of ways to disable access to sensitive features of the OS. And has support for advanced security stuff like Secure Boot and TPM. In the future it can also be domain joined, so security is managed centrally and corporate policies can be applied. The other people here that keep saying Microsoft is a dinosaur don't really have a clue how the business IT world works.

Steven De Kock Personally, I feel Windows is less secure than Linux, and I would never use it in a business setting. Hell, I don't even use it at home if I can avoid it.

Silent Hunter At home I'm a Linux/*BSD user as well (planning to get a Mac too). Next to my Windows gaming pc ... In a business environment, there is just to much tinkering involved to to manage Linux/BSD servers. Windows servers are much easier to (centrally) manage not to mention most IT admins/consultants understand and can support them a lot better. Most IT departments do have some Linux servers running for legacy/third-party applications but avoid them as the plague and rarely install security updates. Windows being less secure is largely just FUD especially if you keep all this in mind. I do recommend my customers to not expose Windows servers directly to the internet. I usually recommend OpenBSD or pfSense as their edge firewall if they don't want to invest in a firewall appliance. And I recommend fronting their web traffic with a reverse proxy like Pound or Nginx ... Most of the security features in Windows IoT (previously Embedded) are not only for networking security. But more "physical" things like disabling access to certain windows features like the control panel, disabling dialogs, disabling keyboard shortcuts and filtering which USB devices can be connected. Very interesting if you are developing a kiosk or PoS system. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn449278(v=winembedded.82).aspx

leongamingprogect Here is the link to the page with the installation instructions and the download link: ms-iot.github.io/content/win10/SetupRPI.htm Note, however, that you have to be signed up with Windows Insider Preview and Microsoft Connect first. The Windows Insider Program link is here: insider.windows.com/

ExplainingComputers thank you :)

Better hope he doesn't get shot... He seems like a pretty nice guy..

+NeedMoreMushrooms WHY DO I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE I GO?!

pigonsteroids You are a drugged pig, how can I give you an answer?

NeedMoreMushrooms Tell me the source of this witchcraft... p.s. I need more steroids...

pigonsteroids I know a good dealer, meet him at around 1:30 AM, in the dark allyway.

Enemy__Breaker ᴴᴰ The Pi 2 will not work as a main Windows machine -- but can be used as a main Linux machine (eg running Raspbian) for light web and office work, plus media playback. :)

ExplainingComputers kinda fell sad about that

ExplainingComputers thanks for the reply

Ging Gobert Oh dear . . . :(

MrMoonpie001 Thanks for this. As far as I am aware (and I've yet to really get up to speed on this!), Windows IoT apps are written in and deployed from Microsoft's Visual Studio 2015 RC, and are then controlled over the network via Windows PowerShell. A preview of Visual Studio 2015 RC is downloadable from Microsoft. There is, I think, a considerable learning curve here! :)

ExplainingComputers Thank you Chris for the response, they are appreciated! Have a wonderful day buddy! Rich

yes.

+陳煒智 Sorry, no. You can only run Windows 10 IoT on the Pi.

thx. beacause pi is ARM different from win 10 full version is x86 , am i right?

陳煒智 Correct. :)

+陳煒智 If you want to run full windows 10 might want to look into Lattepanda on Kickstarter right now. www.kickstarter.com/projects/139108638/lattepanda-a-45-win10-computer-for-everything/description

Breen Whitman Yes, there are big things going on here . . .

Breen Whitman Windows 10 won't be running Android or iOS natively rather Android and iOS developers can port or convert their apps to WIndows Universal App with their existing code. Simple apps and Games can be port easily but sophisticated stuff like Android apps that uses Google Play Services needs their code changed by the devs. So in paper Microsoft taks may seems very exiting but in reality they are not.

Kawshik Ahmed There is a chrome extension to run android apps.

blendergaming I know that I have video on that of my own in another channel. He wasn't talking about running Android app in Chrome. If you want run Android apps on Windows there are many good solution but none will feel like native.

Kawshik Ahmed Well that's true but it might be better one day. The problem is emulation or clever programming (ex. Wine isn't an emulator on Linux but a workaround for running windows apps and games). I know what you mean though. I just wanted to put it out there just in case they didn't know about being able to use android apps with the chrome extension.

Dion Koffie I'm sure this is true -- Win 10 IoT for the Pi2 is for very specific stuff. And as the video shows, it boots slower than, say, Raspbian. But I really thought that I had to do a video showing what the "Windows for Raspberry Pi" thing was all about!

ChuckBleedinNorris After viewing how to Install Windows IoT(this video)... go and find what you can actually do with it. There is allot more to be unlocked. Just be a bit open minded.

What can you do win W10 more than what you can already do with with Linux? Typical Microsoft trying to split the ecosystem once again for no good reason.

ChuckBleedinNorris I don't mate.. Umm.. Maybe.. .NET?? There are defiantly reasons to run this, now you don't need a power hungry server just to do IoT stuff on the Windows platform.

+Christobanistan don't be dumb.... That guy commented months after I did... And there was no Standard windows GUI to my knowledge when I commented.

Lol my old laptop is better then this

+SwizzleDude Where do you have information about state of my knowledge? That's very presumptuous of you. :) You say it's meant for devs - fair enough, but that doesn't answer in what way it is better than using linux. .NET coding? Typically on PC when people go for windows they do that because they want to run windows-specifc programs (games, office, etc). Here we have ARM so that doesn't really apply because there are no legacy windows ARM apps. So what's left that windows allows and linux doesn't? It's an honest question.

Inaflap The Internet is indeed built on Linux servers. However, the Internet of Things (IoT) is yet to really arrive, will involve a whole new level of device-centric infrastructure, and is clearly a big target market for Microsoft. So I made the comment in the context of Win 10 IoT for the Pi2 being a potentially significant development for the rollout of IoT devices.

ExplainingComputers I doubt the OS used will be of much importance. TCP/IP (w/ IPv6), WiFi, wired interface standards... those things are important to an IoT. Whatever the OS, it will have to support those standards on a range of processors. I can't see how M$ is going to make money out of it... unless they intend trying to control the information flow. To be honest, much as I love tech, the IoT scares me because I see it enabling a few people to have much more control over the masses. I don't like the idea of my washing machine and cooker (or the Fat Controllers at the energy company) deciding when I can have clean clothes, or eat dinner either.

Inaflap Yes, the IoT is potentially very scary! And I think Microsoft's interest is to position Windows 10 at the middle of their customer's IoT world -- and that's why I think IoT for the Pi2, etc, is significant. As you say, the actual hardware and platform does not matter -- unless you are a company like Microsoft, when building an IoT "swarm" in every home based their tech may matter a great deal! I'm not saying this is something we should welcome, but I don't think the launch of Windows 10 IoT alongside the other six versions now announced is an accident! :O

DoctorEdiz Windows 10 is going to come in seven versions, one of which is IoT, and that is what the Pi2 can run. But granted, Microsoft may perhaps have spun the marketing a bit to raise expectations for an actual desktop! :)

I'd like to see an actual compatible version of windows or possibly Ubuntu running on the pi, Although for that to happen id guess that the pi may have to have native specs? I'm not to sure.

Given that Windows 8 RT ran on an ARM processor (on early Surface tablets), a version of Windows 10 with a desktop for the Pi2 is theoretically possible. Not that Microsoft are likely to actually create it.

+Christobanistan a game is not a GUI. its graphical software, those can exist without a GUI. harping back to the days of dos when you could launch games outside of windows, gui stands for Graphical User Interface, and is designed to extend functionality and allow you to utilise the hardware in different ways not limited to running games. do your homework before you start calling people dumb.

***** Windows IoT is finished, that's basically the point. it's a barebones firmware with some extendable functionality but not intended to be a full Desktop OS. I'd rather stick to Rasbian and code things on a much more flexible environment than waste time trying to re-invent the wheel. - plus with Binary translation, it's possible to run a x86 chroot environment on Rasbian and thus run wine, and then run (some) windows applications along side native x86 and arm linux software. (And it already has a wide range of GUIs available.) (Look up Exagear)

+SwizzleDude There was a huge hype and a lot of misconception surrounding it's pre-launch, it was never properly explained, instead everyone posted headlines saying "Windows 10 coming to Raspberry Pi" Nobody had heard of Windows 10 IoT core, and nobody really expressly pointed out that it was not going to be the same as the full build, this was nothing short of an advertising tactic. Now people are bitterly disappointed because it isn't what they thought it was. I frankly am glad it's not a full Desktop OS, Rasbian already has that covered adequately, and in todays internet age, it would be unfair to restrict newcomers to the programming space to a windows garden, because the reality is, windows is not a market leader in embedded systems and data centres, the former is what the Pi is all about, and it's healthier for people to learn on a diverse platform, using languages that don't lock you in to using hardware deemed worthy by the corporation behind it.

Lacks GUI and lacks CLI

ᅚᅚᅚᅚ Given this is not a full version of Win10.... Yes it is.

Amineo That's exactly the way I thought. I hoped it to have a full desktop and be a pretty much full Windows (only a *little* minimized in speed and functions). But that's just kinda lame!

ᅚᅚᅚᅚ No reason to be rude, really! I haven't insulted you at all.

I've been flagged lol

ᅚᅚᅚᅚ Yeah, because your name messes up KZfaq.

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