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Exploring A Large Limestone Mine - Part 1

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This is the first abandoned limestone mine I ever explored and it is a big one… As an essential ingredient in concrete, this mine was brought into existence together with a nearby concrete producer in 1910. Underground mining continued into the early 1960’s before the focus shifted to the open pit mining of limestone nearby. Although significantly remodeled over the years, the concrete production plant remains open.
My exploring buddy for this day is Alessio (who introduced me to this site) and his exploring channel can be found here:
/ @urbexale
As it is sedimentary, limestone is made up of the skeletal remains of countless living creatures such as coral and foraminifera. I suppose it is somewhat morbid to consider that when walking on a concrete sidewalk, for example, that we are tromping on the corpses of millions of living creatures. Taking it a step further, consider that limestone is a common ingredient in toothpaste as well! It’s labeled as calcium carbonate should you choose to examine your toothpaste.
This mine is located in the region of Tuscany, which is more commonly associated with fine wine and historic cities such as Florence and Siena. However, I assure you that it has a very fine selection of abandoned mines as well.
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Growing up in California’s “Gold Rush Country” made it easy to take all of the history around us for granted. However, abandoned mine sites have a lot working against them - nature, vandals, scrappers and various government agencies… The old prospectors and miners that used to roam our lonely mountains and toil away deep underground are disappearing quickly as well.
These losses finally caught our attention and we felt compelled to make an effort to document as many of the ghost towns and abandoned mines that we could before that niche of our history is gone forever. But, you know what? We have fun doing it! This is exploring history firsthand - bushwhacking down steep canyons and over rough mountains, figuring out the techniques the miners used and the equipment they worked with, seeing the innovations they came up with, discovering lost mines that no one has been in for a century, wandering through ghost towns where the only sound is the wind... These journeys allow a feeling of connection to a time when the world was a very different place. And I’d love to think that in some small way we are paying tribute to those hardy miners that worked these mines before we were even born.
So, yes, in short, we are adit addicts… I hope you’ll join us on these adventures!
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@UrbexAle
@UrbexAle 6 жыл бұрын
A nice exploration together, I apologize to the channel's followers for my poor English !! :D :D
@gwpsr58
@gwpsr58 6 жыл бұрын
Your English was fine. Heavily accented, but fine :)
@perfection4749
@perfection4749 6 жыл бұрын
UrbexAle no worries, we understood you fine.
@ericscarburry8527
@ericscarburry8527 6 жыл бұрын
Your English is way better than my Italian
@Dan-uc8rx
@Dan-uc8rx 6 жыл бұрын
UrbexAle it's ik Allesio, I could understand! Much love from southern California. Thank you!
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 6 жыл бұрын
UrbexAle Your English is better than my English!
@CornishMineExplorer
@CornishMineExplorer 6 жыл бұрын
A different kind of mine for me too, very interesting layout, much bigger than I am used too. Those fallen rocks look like ankle breakers!
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Much bigger than I'm used to as well! Wait until you see the size of the ore chutes in the next video... And also the size of the adits in the last video - they're the biggest I've ever seen (almost like enormous natural caverns). Ha, yes, "ankle breakers" is a great way to describe the rubble in there.
@DFDuck55
@DFDuck55 6 жыл бұрын
Sedimentary mines (limestone, coal, coke, etc.) are scary! Not only are they unstable and the back constantly falls to the floor, they are notorious for having bad air (Blackdamp; carbon dioxide, methane pockets, etc.) -- This must be a huge limestone deposit since it's not a drift mine following a vein, but instead has straight parallel tunnels.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
I knew about the bad air issues in coal mines. I didn't know that extended to mines extracting sedimentary material in general, but it certainly makes sense... Fortunately, this one had really good air flow. So, that wasn't an issue. You're right about them being unstable! That limestone must be real brittle because shards of it were all over the place. Oh, and, yes, this limestone deposit was enormous. As you indicated, it was pretty much them just hollowing out the hill rather than needing to chase a vein.
@Dan-uc8rx
@Dan-uc8rx 6 жыл бұрын
I liked this post also. My Italian wife even watched all of it. A lot to be seen... the rough walking space says a lot about the history here. Rain+explosives. Left a rough trail!
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm very impressed that your wife watched all of it. I wouldn't be able to interest my Italian wife for five seconds in a mine video! Indeed, it was a rough trail in there. The limestone appears to be very brittle.
@Dan-uc8rx
@Dan-uc8rx 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, and the bats... that was cool too! Next time zoom in!!
@Dan-uc8rx
@Dan-uc8rx 6 жыл бұрын
Years ago I went to the Carlsbad cave in NM. The bats were incredible there. Swarming like bees at the entrance. If you haven't been, it's a place to see...
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Zooming in doesn't work very well in those conditions because there already is a problem with having enough light. It just ends up being blurry. That scene at Carlsbad sounds impressive.
@docmccoy1928
@docmccoy1928 6 жыл бұрын
It's easy to tell a bar down bar and a double jack drill. The drills all have the cross bit on the front and most bar down bars have a wedge tip.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, that is an effective and easy way to tell.
@mommaice
@mommaice 6 жыл бұрын
Wow it sure is big!! I have to admit it felt a bit rushed going through this one. Gotta love the bats.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Well, this particular mine is so big that one kind of has to focus on the highlights. Also, given the size as well as the dark colors inside, it really swallowed up our lights (which made filming more difficult).
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Room-and-pillar limestone accounts for 95%+ of the accessible abandoned mines where I did most of my exploring.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember the tremendous galleries you showed in some of your videos... I think you'll be impressed by the last adit we go into. It's so enormous that in many cases it seems like we're making our way through a huge natural cavern. They took a LOT of material out of that one.
@jonviol
@jonviol 6 жыл бұрын
Totally absorbing to watch .Thanks
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you... Yes, this type of mine was a new experience for me.
@chrisackerley1842
@chrisackerley1842 5 жыл бұрын
Central Italy gets so many large earthquakes that the amount of material fallen from the roof of the adit is not surprising. Great video!
@leehilton9932
@leehilton9932 6 жыл бұрын
My grandpa worked at what was Franklin limestone in Crab Orchard Tennessee. Back in the mid 90s there was over 2 miles of mine tunnels. They would cut 50ft by 50ft by 50ft with all natural supports. It was cool goin back in there back in the day. Franklin sold out to a bigger company a few years back.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
They go big in the limestone mines! In the last video in this series, we get into workings that are as big as those you described. I'm used to tight, skinny gold and silver mines. So, the immensity of these workings kind of blew my mind.
@alvinosullivan2804
@alvinosullivan2804 6 жыл бұрын
That did look a big drop at the beginning! Bats were cool! Great vid as always!
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! There is a much better look at that big drop in the second video when I go into the level below. It is bigger than I realized... Yes, I thought the bats were really cool too. I've never seen that many in one place before.
@retiresoon5639
@retiresoon5639 6 жыл бұрын
Never ever seen limestone mined this way.They are all quarries everyplace I have been before. I live close to three of them. Looks like they left a lot of their limestone on the floor.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
The modern operation that is following this swath of limestone is using the quarry method. I suppose that with cheap labor and low technology in the past, that it was more economical for underground mining.
@Steven-vo8tk
@Steven-vo8tk 6 жыл бұрын
Great mine. It is so large. All that loose rock has to be hard to walk on.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, wait until you see the rest of the adits! This one seems tiny compared to those - especially the last one. Ha, and, yeah, that rubble on the floor wasn't any fun to walk on at all...
@bobmacadu840
@bobmacadu840 6 жыл бұрын
You do some serious world wide exploration.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I've gotta keep you guys entertained! I can't have you getting bored with the same types of mines all of the time, right?
@Lalunabreeze
@Lalunabreeze 5 жыл бұрын
Big mine. I like it. Don’t like pit mining. Dang, you right sheet load of bats. Man it just keeps going.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately, pit mining is the route most mining companies are going now...
@kengamble8595
@kengamble8595 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ken.
@bernardgonzales4195
@bernardgonzales4195 6 жыл бұрын
Not as challenging as the Diamond Mine, but great video. Good job!!
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Tough to top that one, but I've got a couple coming up that are strong contenders...
@otsoalai5621
@otsoalai5621 6 жыл бұрын
Great video brother! As always!!
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ericcorse
@ericcorse 6 жыл бұрын
That is some beautiful stone. "This is hard to walk on" I'll say and if you fall you might end up with some extra orifices as sharp as it is.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am not used to seeing some of the colors we saw underground there... Parts of it were quite beautiful. Haha, yes, that limestone rubble had some sharp edges! I'm happy with the number of orifices I have now, so I'm glad that neither of us fell.
@dirkdiggler1242
@dirkdiggler1242 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@dethaddr
@dethaddr 6 жыл бұрын
I have to admit... I'm thinking it's a big waste of limestone to mine it that way (as opposed to open pit where you can quarry it). You know they weren't in it for the chemical composition, because of all of the scrap tailings you see everywhere, so they must have been mining for slabs. This also makes dynamite a crazy way to mine it, because you wouldn't want to blow up or crack your large slabs.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the miners weren't stupid and the company is still in business. So, they must have had a compelling reason to mine it in the manner they did. Given how cheap labor was at the time and given the earthmoving equipment of the day, I suspect that when this mine was developed, it was more economical to come in from the side rather than to come down from the top.
@UNFORGIVENFOREVER
@UNFORGIVENFOREVER 6 жыл бұрын
It would be AWESOME if I could meet you next trip you make to LaPorte , My wife has Family there that dates back to the original settlers of Rabbit Creek , Goulds, Kingdons, Her Great Aunt Jan Garvis wrote the book THE ROAR OF THE MONITORS. I never seen an explorer that does what you do .
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
How often do you head up to La Porte? We're up there quite often... I'm very familiar with Jann and her fantastic book and have heard a lot about those branches of the family that you mentioned.
@pizzafrenzyman
@pizzafrenzyman 6 жыл бұрын
Considering the method of obtaining raw materials, the cost of the concrete must have been quite expensive. How did the miners remove the ore with all that mixed debris and ore on the tunnel floor?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
All of that rubble on the floor came down after the mine was abandoned. When it was still being worked, the floor would have been clear.
@JoggyMorvin
@JoggyMorvin 6 жыл бұрын
Damn this cave is large. Most mines are a lot smaller...
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the inside of this mine is enormous. Wait until you see the last part that we went into! It's the largest I've ever seen.
@billconserva1461
@billconserva1461 3 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting that all that debris, must have fallen since the mine was closed. Makes one wonder, you really need a hard hat in there, never knowing when something will fall on you.
@brentkeller3826
@brentkeller3826 6 жыл бұрын
There's an 1800's limestone quarry and remains (such as they are) of a lime kiln just down the road from me. Sadly, no information on it remains other than a historical placard stating the baked lime was used for bricks and steel processing at the time of operation. A large cut remains, nothing otherwise identifiable to see.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an interesting site. At least it has the placard...
@brentkeller3826
@brentkeller3826 6 жыл бұрын
I wish there was more information on it. The limestone layer is a westward dipping "vein" in an outcrop that cuts across the original road. (Original road itself was a winding farm road, now it is a "county route".) The placard could stand to have more data, but then again so many deserving sites go undocumented and unremembered.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
"so many deserving sites go undocumented and unremembered" How sadly accurate!
@IanDarley
@IanDarley 6 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that you were wearing a helmet in that mine. Even one of those small grapefruit sized razor sharp limestone rocks falling on your noggin would really spoil your day and they weren't exactly few and far between. Great video as always.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, having one of those sharp limestone rocks bounce off of my skull probably would not have been a lot of fun...
@zohaibzohaibhassan1346
@zohaibzohaibhassan1346 5 жыл бұрын
Limestone cutting tips
@crosslakerealtor
@crosslakerealtor 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, very fluid, would you mind sharing what Gimbal you use?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Sure, it is the Zhiyun Crane M...
@chrisackerley1842
@chrisackerley1842 5 жыл бұрын
Is that some sort of fossil embedded in the roof [upper right of the frame at 8:05]?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 5 жыл бұрын
Anything's possible. This used to be the floor of the ocean and any number of creatures could have floated down to the bottom and become a fossil.
@RailPreserver2K
@RailPreserver2K 6 жыл бұрын
Could you try collating with frank from exploring abandoned mines in bc
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
We've talked to each other about it a couple of times, but we never seem to be in the right place at the right time. I live overseas for most of the year and am only back in the U.S. in the summers. Frank takes his winter vacations (when we could do a project together in Mexico or the U.S.) just after I leave. So, that has been the stumbling block so far. However, I'd like to see it happen too and so we can hopefully sort something out soon.
@blurboards1
@blurboards1 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting seeing a limestone mine, seems pit mining limestone has been the preferred method here in the US. Limestone is primarily used for concrete right?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
We don't have limestone mines in our area in the U.S. and so I'm not sure what "normal" is. However, since mining of minerals near the surface is almost all pit mining now, I suspect that is the case. Even at this site, they switched over to pit mining for the remaining limestone deposits.
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 6 жыл бұрын
It's used a lot more for gravel and general aggregate production than cement. I lived in Missouri for the last four years (currently waiting on finding more full-time work); that state is up there with Kentucky for the most underground limestone mining. In many cases, the particular formation being mined is deep enough that surface mining is no longer economical. Many times, they'll just drive drifts into the site of the surface pit when it comes time to switch to underground production. I've got videos of a few Missouri limestone mines, surface and underground, on my channel, and a list of quite a few more to visit next time I'm up that way.
@tutekohe1361
@tutekohe1361 6 жыл бұрын
Derek Mcclenahan here in New Zealand, limestone is mined almost exclusively for agricultural use. It improves the ph of acidic soils and provides a good source of calcium for pasture and stock, as well as increasing the friability of the soil.
@froggleggers1805
@froggleggers1805 6 жыл бұрын
Are you going to explore any old Roman mines?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, I've explored several. However, if a site has good minerals, mining usually didn't stop with the Romans. So, many modern mines in Europe have Roman origins that have been almost completely obliterated by the modern workings. There are exceptions, of course such as the Dolaucothi Gold Mines in Wales where the modern workings didn't destroy too much of the Roman workings, but in most cases there isn't a lot left to see. A good example of that would be the mine I'll post a link to below... I actually go into one of the old Roman adits, but most of them were destroyed by the pit mining that took place at the site. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acWop7FnyqmoeGw.html
@froggleggers1805
@froggleggers1805 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@perfection4749
@perfection4749 6 жыл бұрын
Curious, in your explorations who knows mining better american miners or italian miners?? Or is it all pretty much the same? What I mean is american mines are heavily (government) regulated...
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, that's an interesting question. I hadn't considered that before... Well, the Italians have been mining since even before the Romans. So, they're not exactly new to this game. Of course, the Cornish miners had a huge influence on mining technology and development, but it didn't take long for their expertise to spread around the world once the Industrial Revolution got into swing. A lot of the equipment is the same too. I've seen the same manufacturer's plates on machinery in the States that I've seen in Italy. I even saw miner's graffiti in an Italian mine once from an American mining engineer that was working there. So, I guess what I'm saying after fumbling through a response to your question is that they are all pretty much the same.
@christianbuczko1481
@christianbuczko1481 6 жыл бұрын
Those tunnels were very large, maybe that's why the bats like them.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Wait until you see how large they are in the last video! They almost look like natural caverns... I think there will be three videos in this series and if that's correct, it'll be the third video.
@snoosebaum995
@snoosebaum995 6 жыл бұрын
at least this time you know why they mined it
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, no problem following the deposits in this one!
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 6 жыл бұрын
ziff house What exactly are you implying?
@markcantemail8018
@markcantemail8018 6 жыл бұрын
T V R And Alessio Thank you very much ! Yes Room and Pillar one level is What I know . Natural Hydaulic Cement ( water lime ) Is what they mined . 1870 They went underground and cut their costs in Half , 20 % charge of Dynamite Is what the report said . It is in a Built up area so I do not Blab . The kids get down there and get in Trouble ! Portland Cement took over the market and unions is what shut down the mines . The mines are in a Karst area so natural openings are found right where the Mines are . I Am Glad you are wearing shoes in this mine . I enjoyed this video very much ! 202 views
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. We don't have limestone mines in our part of the U.S. and so this was all new to me... That site you're describing sounds like an interesting one, to be sure. Haha, yes, this mine would have sliced bare feet to ribbons!
@markcantemail8018
@markcantemail8018 6 жыл бұрын
Brave Explorer The Cement mines Had a specific Horizon that they were after . Depending on the Geologic reports 4 1/2 to 6 feet was the layer and up to 9 feet depending on which Mine you were in . I suspect after mines were closed they took Loose rock from ceiling to use for other purposes . In the mines not used for over a century there has been some roof spall and the floor is littered with rubble like the one you were in . In Pennsylvania They have many underground limestone mines , I printed out a list one day and I stopped at 29 locations . They go after certain Beds of limestone with the % of purity they are chasing for use in Portland cement , agricultural lime and other uses . The beds in P.A are not flat lying like ours are . It really is exciting to be in a Limestone Mine if you are used to gold ,silver and other Minerals for your explores . I really do like the Variety that you are going for and Hope you keep expanding your efforts . Alessio was a great find ,his English was very Good !
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
That's interesting about Pennsylvania's limestone mines. I had no idea that they had so many. Given how much rubble was on the floor in this mine and also what you described, the limestone must be a fairly brittle material. Yes, gold, silver and copper mines are what I have almost exclusively had access to. So, it was indeed a treat to be able to mix things up with this limestone mine. I do try to mix things up for viewers such as yourself. Oh, and, yes, it was fortunate to meet Alessio!
@markcantemail8018
@markcantemail8018 6 жыл бұрын
Justin I do not know how to private message you , so here it is in the open . I just built a Video episode 133 . I have too few photos of the inside of the mine , and it is a just a pocket camera . No Gymbals and it takes a poor video . It was one level room and pillar The water in the mine drains down into the bedrock layers below . No water enters the Mines from the outside . Mines as in more than a few . And the Red Herring is to Keep people from guessing where it is . I like the people in that town and do not want any more kids getting in trouble There . The Strontium mine is all real , the other people jealously guard that Mountain . But I had permission that day so went up to see it , Alone . Go to my channel and look at a few . I believe you are very smart and can figure out what I am Hiding and why . My camera is pathetic but I am happy to have it . Your Videos are so clear I really enjoy them ! Thank you
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Who's that guy you cheating bastard!! Lmao! That is a big mine.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, I thought about introducing the video by saying that you'd been so inspired by your first visit to Italy that you'd grown a beard and adopted an Italian accent. However, I don't think many people would have believed me. We'd love to have had you with us on this one! Wait until you see how big the last adit is - biggest I've ever seen...
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 6 жыл бұрын
TVR Exploring wow
@jshilohshea381
@jshilohshea381 6 жыл бұрын
doesn't look easy to walk on..wearing steel toed boots ?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
No, it definitely wasn't easy to walk on! Fortunately, yes, I was rocking the steel toes that day though...
@ericscarburry8527
@ericscarburry8527 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer you lead. Not follow
@jshilohshea381
@jshilohshea381 6 жыл бұрын
I've never seen so small bats !! they looked like babies not adults hope you wore mask to protect your lungs from the fumes of bat sh*t...
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a different species in Italy? Also, they might have seemed smaller because that adit was so big. Normally, I'm much closer to the bats when filming because they are closer. I'm by no means an expert on bats... I was just taken with the sheer number of them inside there since I'm not used to seeing more than a handful of bats at the most.
@keirakain
@keirakain 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why don’t u use climbing tools and stuff and repel or anything in some of these mines ? Is it expensive to get the equipment ?
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
There have been so many conventional adits to explore that there hasn't been a need for it yet. There are hardly any shafts in the normal area we go exploring, so all of that gear would be something that would just get used on 2-3 trips a year. Also, I don't have the luggage space to fly all of the climbing gear out to Italy. I know how to use the gear and expect we'll start seeing more of it in the future, but, at least for now, I'm still working through the low hanging fruit.
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 6 жыл бұрын
Matt T Plus a good 90% of shafts and second levels have no access from the top and with a raise that goes 50-100' up there's no way to fasten ropes with all the rotten wood and vertical sides. And again with winzes, it's a one in a million chance when we find one that's not flooded in N.california. So there goes your access.
@TVRExploring
@TVRExploring 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's exactly right. The technical gear would essentially just be for Nevada trips. Even all of the mines in Italy are flooded and Sardinia is pretty dry.
@keirakain
@keirakain 6 жыл бұрын
I realize that there flooded but I remember one mine you did that was flooded and the guy you were with said it led to older workings and you could still get there by scuba diving through the flooded part
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 6 жыл бұрын
Matt T That wasn't me. And as far as scuba diving goes in a mine.....hell no! Not for me anyway. I've waded through 1000's of feet of flooded mine drifts, tunnels and adits but there's no way I'm diving in one unless it be a life or death choice! Lol
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