If you get down that way, I was told by the locals that there was also a German POW camp at the fairgrounds in Stewartstown, PA. Not sure if there’s anything left. The POWs worked in the nearby orchard outside of town. There’s also an old mill outside of town. Stewartstown was founded in 1770. Still a few Revolutionary War houses there and surrounding country. And Civil War houses. Soldiers are buried just over the Mason Dixon line at the Church in Butler, MD.
@MichelleJune676 жыл бұрын
The arrow was the flag pole..very interesting had to look up the walking map tour and my goodness it was such a sight to see!!! Great video would of never known!!! Thanks a million!!!
@davetappany68224 жыл бұрын
Just finished thus hike . Awesome! It is worth its weight in gold to print the trail map as it gives detailed information as to what each thing was with pictures. Don’t go without this!
@terryanderson59474 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome video bub. I would love to walk through and enjoy seeing the history of this place. Be careful outhere man.
@owen42486 жыл бұрын
Great explore lots of history there for sure thanks for taking me with you.....
@bertgeneray59546 жыл бұрын
I read down thru your comments looking for a mention of a book published in 2006. I didn't find it. The book is titled "Secret War At Home - The Pine Grove Furnace Prisoner of War Interrogation Camp" by John Paul Bland. It explains some of the history of the area pertaining to the iron industry, the CCC camp, the prisoner of war camp and then the church camp. Well worth the read.
@craigs.5464 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a great video Cliff!
@michaelsowers85846 жыл бұрын
Again, you continue to do a very good job exploring areas that are easily reached here in PA. Lycoming County has some neat and interesting areas to explore. Utceter Cemetery below Slate Run is interesting, albeit, in horrible disrepair.
@timkiner1006 Жыл бұрын
Great place I use to live right over the mountain from there and every time I go there I see something different
@74dartman133 жыл бұрын
So cool! I never knew this place existed. Thanks for sharing it with us!
@kateclark72502 жыл бұрын
Interesting place. Thanks for the adventure.
@abethepunk5 жыл бұрын
I visited this forest thanks to you! A bit of a drive but I loved it! I can't wait to go back, although I set my tent up where a bobcat hunts at night.
@melisadoherty89954 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to discover this tomorrow on my day off. Thank you!!!
@richekay5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. The old spillway (12:55) has been replaced with a new spillway. No more concrete sluice boxes. All new river rock and channeling.
@texashikeaholicsadventures56516 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! Thanks for sharing!
@meggalina7 жыл бұрын
you're like a kid in a candy store at this place. do much to see! really cool, thanks got the great video.
@paulmerritt75407 жыл бұрын
BTW thanks for the great tour!! I love that area.
@karenpacker88624 жыл бұрын
Awesome explore. What history.
@gohistory5907 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos !! Keeps up the great work. I really enjoy them Rick
@thewanderingwoodsman72277 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@GoMandiMartin Жыл бұрын
That is an awesome video! Thank you so much! :)
@MindlessNonsense7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap!!! I'm so happy to discover this video!!!! I live near there, and I always hear about that, yet I can't find much about it. Thanks for posting this video!
@thewanderingwoodsman72277 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@llstarlight2 жыл бұрын
WoW - people left messages in cement - the farm where I grew up had 1880 - 1881 markings in cement - so I thought that was an origin dating - recently I found that the main house was built abt 1750 - watching your pod inspired me to look things up - the house is still there after a couples of renovations - additions and a pool lol
@paulmerritt75407 жыл бұрын
Behind the crumbled barn foundation, heading to high ground was where they held worship services. It was once clled vespar hill, and there lies some remains of the old benches used during services. The area is full of multiflora rose now-a-days though.
@BLACKTHUMB016 жыл бұрын
Just came back from visiting the Fuller Lake area, I was not aware of how much remained of the Camp, will have to go back and check it out now.
@Friskee625 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. It is good that you changed your video gear to what you have now. Kudos...
@trackeryak3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting place. My wife and I will take a drive over soon!
@rickmiller98453 жыл бұрын
I went to church camp here with the Central Presbyterian church in Chambersburg. Pretty cool place. We actually have a cabin right down the road from the camp. I remember the big steps where we had our summer pictures taken. I have walked this area many times but never could locate them. A lot of history here.
@PrepsteadingWithBelinda3 жыл бұрын
wow if the trees could talk the stories that we would learn. Thanks for sharing!
@ww2abandonedcampshelby6656 жыл бұрын
I live next to camp Shelby, ms. they had a pow camp there. I hope to make a video of it some time. great info thanks.
@nickmad8874 жыл бұрын
Great video
@RoyalSupertramp5 жыл бұрын
The arrow was the flag pole for the CCC camp, it was abandoned by the pow camp because it was inside the prisoner area. The platform that looked like a lookout was the incinerator, and the structure with the wooden posts was the main mess hall. They built the pool because the water quality in the reservoir (2nd dam) was not good. When I visited earlier this month you could see what looked like acid run-off going into the reservoir. Super cool place, but some aspects are really deteriorating so visit while you can! The self guiding tour brochure has some photos of the different buildings, some of the shrubbery in the photos are fully mature trees now!
@craigs.5464 жыл бұрын
The following map has numbers that may correlate with the numbers on the posts at that actual site. It's a Church camp map with certain references to old POW camp structures As well as church camp structures or foundations thereof.: www.schaeffersite.com/michaux/#Definitive
@terryciavola22514 жыл бұрын
Awesome, loved the old door. Are there any pictures of what it used to look like? Enjoyed the history.
@patrickwentz84133 жыл бұрын
Too funny. I have been at the fallen barn many times and never knew there was a POW camp right up the road!
@wooderdsaunders68013 жыл бұрын
Would love for you to do a more detailed tour of this site.
@kristgeo4 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@hillarys.k85182 жыл бұрын
Cliff maybe time to revisit this places .
@577buttfan6 жыл бұрын
The fountain was built to last.Looked cool!
@Bryan-yx3rq5 жыл бұрын
Corps is pronounced "core" not like a corpse. Pet peeve of mine being 31 year US Army. Great video, love that place, been there many times, live in the general area.
@vikkinicholson23004 жыл бұрын
thank you Bryan, that got my attention too.....once an Eng. major, always an Eng. major.lol
@paulbislin84714 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! I guess that „Leutnant Momborg“ wrote 2 addresses on that bridge: „Prag Ovenecka 35“ (Prague Ovenecka house No. 35, that address still exist) and „Kassel Altenritte 56“.
@waynegrant89826 жыл бұрын
excellent investigation ....Keep it up your doing a great job...Western Canada
@thewanderingwoodsman72276 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@debraadamsadams6955 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Watch the black bears and rattlesnakes.
@lisamunson17894 жыл бұрын
We have remenants of a old ww2 pow camp here in western wi. Its located on the south post of a current army base called fort mccoy wi.
@paulmerritt75407 жыл бұрын
At 9:25 that IS the old swimming pool....off to the south east side you'll find the access to the underworkings of the pool below grade.
@landentrayer30614 жыл бұрын
The star is for the flag pole. If u notice the circle in the middle. I stumbled accross this amazing place by chance hiking one day. There is a map online somewhere i wish I could find it.
@firstcitytraveler3 жыл бұрын
those concrete block were foundations for huts (housing) at camp. Keep the wood off the ground.
@sandraplonka52256 жыл бұрын
Great history of Pa. My father in law was an U S Army guard in Pa. guarding Germans.
@paguy636 жыл бұрын
Hello Sandra, was he a guard at the Pine Grove Furnace POW camp?
@koalabay084 жыл бұрын
we take the 4 wheeler to Michaux state park Will have to check this out
@mikeb86133 жыл бұрын
The U.S. had over 500 POW camps.
@bobbieschke5993 жыл бұрын
I've been there, believe that belonged to the Civilian Conservation Corps . Toms Run shelter is up the hill about 3/4 of a mile in off the AT . Camped there..........Grizz 🐻
@buckJuddson7 жыл бұрын
hey woodsman have you ever been to Altoona PA ? Horseshoe curve ? there is some awesome old house foundations just beyond the curve . Not many people know about them ! Pennsylvania !!!!!
@thewanderingwoodsman72277 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I'll get out there sometime this summer for fall
@nickmad8875 жыл бұрын
thanks
@vikkinicholson23004 жыл бұрын
Cliff has his fan base using the word, "cool"......an oldie but goodie.
@tindoortailgator4 жыл бұрын
More History - Lost to Time - If Only the Tree's Could Talk ? Thanks
@gillygil87473 жыл бұрын
Clearly, the Keystone. But, what was it? Yes. Very interesting. (That is not a Colonel Klink reference.) I can't help but be reminded of the SNL skit years ago. Steve Martin said to Bill Murray, "What the hell is that? What the hell IS that? What's 'at dang thing doin' here? How did that get here? What the ...."
@paulmerritt75407 жыл бұрын
The center of the STAR was the location of the flagpole.
@johnwrhel91904 жыл бұрын
I believe those concrete blocks supported the barracks that housed the prisoners. The buildings were wooden.
@edithdavis28484 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@davidwilson88005 жыл бұрын
Leaving out the o saves time&energy
@craigs.5464 жыл бұрын
Don't be the "o" police. Lol :)
@wendywarrior22643 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know this existed! So much history in PA! Love living in this state! My Dad used to tell me that my uncle worked for the CCC camps! I don’t know where, but maybe here!
@erica-lillycrider10886 жыл бұрын
That is on Dynamite Shed Road i live not far from that area on the mountain
@billiefloyd71065 жыл бұрын
In the comments some one mentioned seeing a rattlesnake at this camp when they were there. I'm glad you didn't see any.
@markbrubaker85854 жыл бұрын
Did your research mention where the prisoners went when they left this camp? Just curious.
@paulmerritt75407 жыл бұрын
The "Steps to nowhere" were at 9:10 bud......they use to be in much better shape than today.
@Timbo63a5 жыл бұрын
Do a google search on: "lt momberg" michaux state, and you'll see info on the German who left his name on the bridge....
@lindamccoy48714 жыл бұрын
I hear a Woodpecker at the beginning
@Misfitprime3 жыл бұрын
Where is that relative to the CCC camp?
@BrianClunie5 жыл бұрын
It's off the beaten path!
@garyjohnson46085 жыл бұрын
this place should be studied researched and restored
@johnwrhel91904 жыл бұрын
That 22.5.45 was written by a German. They put day first followed by month followed by year. Americans would have written 5-22-45.
@privatedata6652 жыл бұрын
Cool vid , I wonder if any German descendants of the prisoners have watched this ?
@harrowgateguy11 ай бұрын
Not a POW camp but an interrogation camp.
@davidwilson88005 жыл бұрын
The arrow is so Planes know where the prisoners are
@craigs.5464 жыл бұрын
Map of the POW camp shortly after use as a POW camp: www.schaeffersite.com/michaux/DERmapLarge.gif
@Makaiamar066 жыл бұрын
12 volts
@dinahnicest65253 жыл бұрын
"Interrogation" means torture. This was a 20th century Abu Graib. Unpleasant thought, but it happens.
@prismstudios0016 жыл бұрын
If the numbers written on the edge of the dam are a date, then it is in the European style, day/month/year.
@robdwy17085 жыл бұрын
No light cool.
@davedutile63173 жыл бұрын
State? What f I go state.!
@808TheDuck7 жыл бұрын
POW camp or CCC camp?
@thewanderingwoodsman72277 жыл бұрын
Both. it was a CCC camp first then a POW camp during the war.
@davidwilson88005 жыл бұрын
Pw is prisoner of war it became pow
@richardgithens19603 жыл бұрын
Corpse?
@wvmontani4 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, "corps" is pronounced "core"; not "corpse." :) :) :)
@patt83154 жыл бұрын
You need to go back armed with more information.
@craigs.5464 жыл бұрын
I kind of like it when he doesn't have all the information in his videos because it sparks my curiosity and makes me want to investigate it on the internet.
@lindabingham3943 жыл бұрын
corpse is a body
@secretaryandactress7 жыл бұрын
It would help if you mentioned which state Michaux State forest is in. Locals know this but I had to look it up.
@jtkm7 жыл бұрын
secretaryandactress it's in Pennsylvania. About 15 minutes west of Gettysburg. The Appalachian trail goes right through it. I'm a local btw
@secretaryandactress7 жыл бұрын
I ended up looking it up. Thank you. I frequent PA but the northeast area. Kind of far. Someday I would like to visit Gettysburg. I love history. I have taken interest in the holocaust lately. I'm reading about the events that took place right after liberation.
@jtkm7 жыл бұрын
secretaryandactress yes, in fact if you look up Letterkenny Army Depot, you will find out that Italian POW's built the depot, and one famous structure is the church.
@JuanaHernandez-nz3tp3 жыл бұрын
tk
@lindabingham3943 жыл бұрын
what is that noise your iron lung or camera annoying