Exploring the Sierra On-Line "Super-Junior" Computer

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4 жыл бұрын

While diving into the Computer Reset warehouse, this oddly-configured IBM PCjr stood out from the crowd. Because Sierra Online! Yep, turns out this is the "Ken Williams Super-Junior," used by Sierra QA in 1989.
● Download an archive of the HDD contents here:
archive.org/details/sierra-su...
● LGR links:
/ lazygamereviews
/ lazygamereviews
/ lazygamereviews
● Music courtesy of:
www.epidemicsound.com
#LGR #IBM #PCjr

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@LGR
@LGR 4 жыл бұрын
Turns out all those ICEMANSG.* files are just savegames! I initially assumed they were something more interesting since they were ~40KB each, but I guess not haha. Seems the game just creates some pretty beefy save files. Still, it's neat to have a bunch of old saves from the Sierra QA department though.
@CadetKosmov
@CadetKosmov 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can use some tool to search for deleted files?
@leandrocosta3709
@leandrocosta3709 4 жыл бұрын
That was some nice bit of data archeology right there. It had it all. Drama, danger and excitement, and I do feel extra nerdy when I typed that in lol. Thanks for sharing it with us.
@texaswilliam
@texaswilliam 4 жыл бұрын
@@leandrocosta3709 Don't forget the magic smoke!
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 4 жыл бұрын
Upload that version of Codename: ICEMAN! Could be an early beta! Also Ken William's OWN PCjr... O___________O Holy.... Freaking... Shiat. You literally just dug up a golden piece of computer history out of a dirty (but AWESOME) warehouse in Texas...
@jaybrooks1098
@jaybrooks1098 4 жыл бұрын
I had one of those drives on my bbs
@ContraryToPopularBelief
@ContraryToPopularBelief 4 жыл бұрын
We're watching literal computer archaeology.
@oldfrend
@oldfrend 4 жыл бұрын
shoulda worn a fedora and a bullwhip. you know, just in case.
@Doobie3010
@Doobie3010 4 жыл бұрын
Well i`m "digging" it! Get my coat...
@hipwave
@hipwave 4 жыл бұрын
the Antikythera mechanism is archaeology...
@Doobie3010
@Doobie3010 4 жыл бұрын
@@hipwave All human history is archaeology.
@larrylaffer3246
@larrylaffer3246 4 жыл бұрын
It belongs in a museum!
@Logan912
@Logan912 4 жыл бұрын
Leave it to LGR to complete a 30-year-old work order for friggin' Sierra On-Line!
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
And for Ken Williams, no less.
@agbook2007
@agbook2007 4 жыл бұрын
A small, glorious world indeed! 👍
@PicaDelphon
@PicaDelphon 3 жыл бұрын
@SteelRodent And maybe Allow LGR to Re-Write the Game..
@atticbear5098
@atticbear5098 4 жыл бұрын
That sudden, happy panic when you realized it booted up and you needed to copy everything off before it failed was the best part of my day.
@AntiPseudo
@AntiPseudo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so used to seeing people with retro systems modded to have SDcards or other modern storage systems that when he managed to list the contents of the HDD I immediately thought "Oh crap, how can he copy this stuff off there?", completely forgetting floppies were an option.
@brooksrownd2275
@brooksrownd2275 4 жыл бұрын
I started screaming at the screen "BACKUPS! BACKUPS! MAKE BACKUPS DAMMIT BEFORE SHE BLOWS!!!!"
@loupgarou1317
@loupgarou1317 4 жыл бұрын
yep , had a old compac pc do the "not booting" thing and a buddy I knew took the hard drive and slapped the top of the drive like one would slap the "sense" back into someone, and IT BOOTED, then told me the same thing..."copy EVERYTHING you want to keep SOON".....
@cabokenw
@cabokenw 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! What an amazing piece of history that is. Thanks for bringing it back to life. Watching it made me feel SO old... (sigh)
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 жыл бұрын
Got to say, Space Quest is still, after all these years, one of my favorite computers games ever. - Roger Wilco
@businesswolle666official
@businesswolle666official 4 жыл бұрын
Your games will live forever man.
@Featherogue
@Featherogue 4 жыл бұрын
:OOOOOOO
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 3 жыл бұрын
The man, the legend!
@thunderfox53
@thunderfox53 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think of yourself as old...think of yourself as vintage 😀
@_Synthesize_Me_
@_Synthesize_Me_ 4 жыл бұрын
“Ken Williams modified Super-Junior” When I saw that I nearly crapped my pants.
@ItsJones
@ItsJones 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as i saw that name i googled it... holy shit!
@afederdk
@afederdk 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I remember reading about Ken and Roberta in the user manuals that came with the classic Sierra games.
@nateg452
@nateg452 4 жыл бұрын
Right I wouldn't even be mad if he used this in his title. I can see this getting so many more views.
@MultiTelan
@MultiTelan 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about his luck getting that drive, eh?
@anishaidarali6659
@anishaidarali6659 4 жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with a South Korean boyband named Super Junior.
@JohnKelly2
@JohnKelly2 4 жыл бұрын
My 44 year old self literally squeed when that Ken Williams message popped up! Thanks to you and everyone involved in preserving the history at Computer Reset.
@MurrayDagostino
@MurrayDagostino 4 жыл бұрын
I paused the video to read the message a couple of times, that was just awesome to read.
@troymitchell8431
@troymitchell8431 4 жыл бұрын
I'm roughly your age as well. I was speechless. Brings a tear to the eyes. Thank you Clint
@nimblenavigator9520
@nimblenavigator9520 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a greying 30 year old man, but when I saw that Ken Williams boot message I started fanning myself like an old lady at a church revival. I know the feeling!
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 4 жыл бұрын
This was before my time at Sierra but still an AMAZING FIND!
@singingtree9862
@singingtree9862 4 жыл бұрын
You were an accountant at Sierra, not a fucking video game developer for them
@P0V3RTY09
@P0V3RTY09 4 жыл бұрын
@@singingtree9862 Before talking smack, you might want to consider that back in the days of Sierra Online's popularity, employees did several jobs. Yes , Jason was originally hired as an accountant for their company. But he also did ( as others had ) perform a small role as tech support..answering trouble calls from customers if I am not mistaken. I think that your Cyber Muscle needs either a REBOOT or an Update...cause they definitely aren't doing anything for you .
@licentiousdreams
@licentiousdreams 4 жыл бұрын
@@P0V3RTY09 I think he needs to delete muscle.exe cause it's doing nothing but causing issues for him.
@thecamelftw1381
@thecamelftw1381 4 жыл бұрын
Man I heard of sierra and I thought of you mjr.
@281cu6
@281cu6 4 жыл бұрын
@@singingtree9862 What are you?
@ChaosEmerald85
@ChaosEmerald85 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the Sierra QA department, that means it'll hardly have been used!
@kb9khm
@kb9khm 4 жыл бұрын
ChaosEmerald85 I see what you did there! 😁
@StarLiteNL
@StarLiteNL 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he should give it to Bethesda, they can use since better QA equipment 😋
@soHatey
@soHatey 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 4 жыл бұрын
if only Sonic Team had this back in 2006
@wolfgangervin2582
@wolfgangervin2582 4 жыл бұрын
@@TorutheRedFox or better yet, actually having enough staff or time to even use a QA terminal.
@soHatey
@soHatey 4 жыл бұрын
So when i can't sleep i think about every stupid thing i've done in the past and worry about the future. Clint thinks about computers.
@ayitsyaboi
@ayitsyaboi 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@teleman07
@teleman07 4 жыл бұрын
Thats healthy normal human behavior. People who tend to ignore the stupid things they have done and dont worry about their future and only dabble in what they are obsessed at the moment when trying to sleep usually turn up famous, infamous or dead...
@Vintersemestre00
@Vintersemestre00 4 жыл бұрын
@@teleman07 Yes. Definitely very human activity done by human people, like me, a person.
@adamkatt
@adamkatt 4 жыл бұрын
i do the same shit micke, think about stuff i can never fix... as avgn would say... you know whats BULLSHIT......
@wizzel22
@wizzel22 4 жыл бұрын
Me thinking about playing Driller and all of the Sierra Games from my childhood on my CGA 5150 again. One can dream...
@dross1705
@dross1705 4 жыл бұрын
When the drive started to work, I got really excited O_O
@hipwave
@hipwave 4 жыл бұрын
that gave me a boner
@JaapioNL
@JaapioNL 4 жыл бұрын
I was ready to see an unreleased game being discovered here 😃
@dvdemon187
@dvdemon187 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too. Considering how old this thing is and how 'well' it was stored it is a miracle it really booted up.
@Keirnoth
@Keirnoth 4 жыл бұрын
The fact he resurrected a piece of history that is extremely rare is what makes this amazing. Clint must have some crazy rare stuff now.
@zxcbvnm90
@zxcbvnm90 4 жыл бұрын
The whole channel got excited at that moment.
@thepuzzlemaster64
@thepuzzlemaster64 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! First time I've heard a HDD sound like an old snowmobile. I was on the edge of my seat when you were copying those files.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it only worked due to the collective will of a thousand LGR viewers holding their breath and hoping...
@YAUUN
@YAUUN 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, It reminds me of the sounds that the IBM DeathStar drives used to make.
@Tris289
@Tris289 4 жыл бұрын
@@YAUUN Those tandon drives were actually garbage... What you were hearing was probably the spindle motor giving it's best, and last moments
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 Жыл бұрын
@@YAUUN lol IBM death star ha!
@kpanic23
@kpanic23 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Clint! The hard disk didn't work on your AT because on those ST506/ST412-style hard disks the controller and drive become one unit during low-level formatting. The only way to use a drive with a different controller is by doing another low-level format. Every controller uses a slightly different format, hence they are not compatible with each other. It might work with a different controller from the same manufacturer, but chances are slim when any kind of virtual configuration is used. For example, some newer 8bit Western Digital controllers using the WD SuperBios save the drive geometry on the drive, reducing the number of usable cylinders by 1. This is needed, because on an XT-class machine, there's no CMOS setup to set the drive parameters, should they differ from the defaults. Western Digital by the way were the first to integrate the controller to the drive's PCB, eliminating the need to use low-level formatting to pair the controller and drive. The integrated controller is then connected directly to the system bus via a 40pin cable. These drives are called IDE drives (Integrated Drive Electronics) ;) Back then, they were only producing controllers and needed a drive manufacturing plant to realize their idea, so instead of developing own drives they simply bought a drive manufacturer: Tandon. The first IDE WD drives used exactly the same drive mechanics as the Tandon drive in this PCjr!
@isaakwelch3451
@isaakwelch3451 4 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome history lesson. Thank you for taking the time to write it out
@kpanic23
@kpanic23 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaakwelch3451 Thanks 😁 I have a huge passion for old hard drives and try to keep as much information about them from getting lost as possible 😉
@comicdude1996
@comicdude1996 4 жыл бұрын
So the only way that he could have mounted it was to wipe the hard drive.
@kpanic23
@kpanic23 4 жыл бұрын
@@comicdude1996 Basically, yes. You can get lucky if you coincidentally use the same model of controller, but normally you have to low-level format the drive if you connect it to a different controller. See also: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q72HgcWhyZuaiKc.html But today there are also MFM emulators, which are able to dump the raw data from the drive and try different encoding schemes to get access to the data: www.pdp8.net/mfm/mfm.shtml
@Vendolius
@Vendolius 4 жыл бұрын
A low level format destroys everything on that drive.
@Bighappykitty
@Bighappykitty 4 жыл бұрын
Watching you furiously try and copy all the information off that drive before it died was awesome, like something out of an early 90's spy movie.
@davemiller262
@davemiller262 4 жыл бұрын
i need floppies!
@AzaTht
@AzaTht 4 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of running some sort of undelete command on that harddrive? perhaps there might exists some deleted stuff still readable.
@DJDKCR
@DJDKCR 4 жыл бұрын
I second this!
@44CT232
@44CT232 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@hugovangalen
@hugovangalen 4 жыл бұрын
This!!!
@truezulu
@truezulu 4 жыл бұрын
This!
@francoandresvalle
@francoandresvalle 4 жыл бұрын
good idea!
@rpm773
@rpm773 4 жыл бұрын
LGR just grabs a box of disks like it's nothing, but in reality he reached back into portal to 1990 to retrieve them.
@Noah-hd2je
@Noah-hd2je 4 жыл бұрын
As a long time Sierra fan, that Ken Williams prompt was one of the most mind-blowing things I've ever seen. I also love how that prompt is exactly the kind of thing you would see if you activated a computer in some old adventure game.
@948320z
@948320z 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that prompt was very Space Quest. And you'd try to figure out what it means to "park" a hard drive, then realizing you need to literally "park" it like a car or something.
@genx1144
@genx1144 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Oh no, I hope the video doesn't end here. LGR: We're getting somewhere! Me: 16 mins left! Oh yea!!!
@StevenIngram
@StevenIngram 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. :D
@beanshady
@beanshady 4 жыл бұрын
Me too lol .. I checked the time and told myself there has to be more to this thank God :D
@Nano102488
@Nano102488 4 жыл бұрын
Every other kid gamer youtuber: "Well guys I tried but it looks like it. just. doesn't work. Don't forget to like and subscribe and hit that bell icon and I'll see you in another video!" *END* LGR is seriously a youtube treasure.
@QuiltyExperience
@QuiltyExperience 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you dig deep enough at Computer Reset you can find the Leisure Suit Larry 4 floppies.
@Charlesb88
@Charlesb88 4 жыл бұрын
QuiltyExperience for anyone wondering about LSL 4 and what happened to it, here is the story. Originally, LSL 3 was originally to be the final game in the series but then Al Lowe the games creator at Sierra was convinced to a do a 4th game. What happened next has been given to explanation by Al h8 self. The first explanation was the the 4th game was to be a online game for the Sierra Online online game network, a failed experiment for them. When the version was scraped, he could it’s offline replacement LSL 5 as a joke. Another explanation is that he intended LSL 4 to always be an offline game and simply called is LSL 5 as joke, with the false rumor that the floppies to LSL 4 where lost. At least one of the original LSL series box sets makes reference to the LSL 4 lost floppies, continuing the joke but no such game ever existed, other LSL 5 which is really just LSL 4. sort of like how Windows 8 was followed by Windows 10 with no explanation as to what happened to Windows 9 and no logical reason anyone can come up with going directly to 10, other then maybe to give further separation from the much loathed Windows 8.
@joshwojcik6726
@joshwojcik6726 4 жыл бұрын
@@Charlesb88 Actually I'm pretty sure they skipped Windows 9 because of legacy code which references Windows 9x, which was used for Windows 95, 98, and the like.
@Charlesb88
@Charlesb88 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Wojcik I don’t believe anyone at MS has ever officially explained why they skipped the name Win 9 for Win 10, though I have heard your explanation posited before. While it’s possible that older software might mistake Windows 9 for aversion of Win9x due to pre-Win 10 software checking for Win 9x versions via code that looks for any version. Number starting with “Windows 9”, MS has never confirmed that (A supposed developer claiming to be from MS was the origin of this explanation, but his identity was never verified). Another theory was that it was skipped due to the number 9 being unlucky Japan, though Apple released Mac OS 9 in Japan in the late 90’s and IOS 9 in the 2010’s, both of which without Incident, which would seem to put this theory to rest. Mary Jo Foley, of All About Microsoft Fame (and the Windows Weekly podcast), wrote a piece where she claimed the reason was “they wanted to signify that the coming Windows release would be the last "major" Windows update.”. Microsoft any response to this question was the follow: “Why was Windows 9 called Windows 10? Because 7 8 9” 😆which is a take on the old joke “Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.🤣” Outside of this dumb joke, MS has never officially stated stated a reason for skipping 9.
@jondorthebrinkinator
@jondorthebrinkinator 4 жыл бұрын
@@Charlesb88 There's a much simpler explanation. Just look at the way LSL 3 ends. There's no way to write out of that corner. At least Space Quest 3 (which ends the same way) has the excuse of Sci Fi to get out of it. They just skipped number four and made it into a joke to cover the huge logic gap between the end of one game and the start of the next.
@CurtisWilliams0817
@CurtisWilliams0817 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshwojcik6726 Correct
@TrackZero
@TrackZero 4 жыл бұрын
"Ken Williams modified Super-Junior at your service", omg, that MOTD. I lost my mind. THANK YOU LGR!!!!
@FuglyFatt
@FuglyFatt 4 жыл бұрын
5:40 - That's a classic 'crank no start' sound on a car. It's either the fuel injectors or the spark plugs.
@DanPellegrino486
@DanPellegrino486 4 жыл бұрын
It kinda sounds like an engine trying to turn over now that I go back. Choke might be stuck too.
@otakuribo
@otakuribo 4 жыл бұрын
"I could make, like, a museum piece out of these." Dude! You have custom framing skills!
@erinwiebe7026
@erinwiebe7026 4 жыл бұрын
Ken Williams' super PCjr! What a find! I'm restoring an Amiga 500 right now for the sole purpose of playing early Sierra games. I miss Sierra!
@rachel_sj
@rachel_sj 4 жыл бұрын
Erin Wiebe I’d love to see you play those Sierra games on the Amiga 500. I’ve watched them on Steamtrain but it’d be cool to see the games played on computers built for them!
@NozomuYume
@NozomuYume 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, the Amiga ports of Sierra games were pretty bleh. The 16-color AGI games aren't any better than the Tandy versions except for mouse support. The SCI games were cut down to fit 32-color max palette on OCS. The Paula music in SCI games isn't bad, but not as good as the Roland MT-32 audio (which, to Sierra's credit, they did include support for on the Amiga version). The only Sierra adventure that really does the Amiga justice is King's Quest VI, but that's because Revolution ported it to their Virtual Theatre engine. It's still not as good as the MS-DOS SCI version of KQ6 in VGA+MT32.
@selty
@selty 4 жыл бұрын
NozomuYume 😑
@usernamunavailiable
@usernamunavailiable 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome my first computer was a PCjr back in 1986. My favorites were police quest and Kings Quest. Though I could never find King Trident. I would then get orders to Okinawa, and I would buy the Amiga 500 I bought in 1989. So amazing the evolution of the technology. Loved my Amy, it was so versatile.
@rizz0d
@rizz0d 4 жыл бұрын
WHOA! seeing ken's login message pop up made my heart drop. fixing up cool old computers is one thing, but this is on another level. great find. we all need to pitch in and buy Computer Reset as is and let Clint be the curator.
@LonSeidman
@LonSeidman 4 жыл бұрын
What a find! Love that it boots up with a note from Ken :)
@JennerNuwen32
@JennerNuwen32 4 жыл бұрын
As an old fan of Sierra I have to say this really made my day. I about lost it when I saw the name Ken Williams appear on the screen!
@uzivatel56
@uzivatel56 4 жыл бұрын
16:16 "Welcome to the beautiful island of Tahiti" Dutch: *heavy breathing*
@alexm566
@alexm566 4 жыл бұрын
context?
@uzivatel56
@uzivatel56 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexm566 RDR2 memes died too quickly. "If you only had some GOD DAMN FAITH!!!" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLF0maaLvZ-sZas.html
@teknowil
@teknowil 3 жыл бұрын
@@uzivatel56 i almost thought that said R2D2 lol
@LazerLord10
@LazerLord10 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those class X caps are known for failing in a short circuit. As such, they probably blow the fuse (if there is any). I've had one blow on my oscilloscope.
@Horzuhammer
@Horzuhammer 4 жыл бұрын
4:48 _The green spacecraft below is another known source of 1701 errors:_ Q'apla!
@trekaddict
@trekaddict 4 жыл бұрын
But only the once. And it then helped fix the blue_whale_existence_failure_error.
@Otakunopodcast
@Otakunopodcast 4 жыл бұрын
It is a good day for a hard drive to die.
@00Klingon
@00Klingon 4 жыл бұрын
I resemble that remark.
@notsusan
@notsusan 3 ай бұрын
@trekaddict uhhh HUMPBACK whales, smh
@weirdotzero7065
@weirdotzero7065 4 жыл бұрын
This is like the coolest find ever. I'm legit happy you found this.
@tomypower4898
@tomypower4898 4 жыл бұрын
WeirdoTZero yes cellphone fans
@Phenom98
@Phenom98 4 жыл бұрын
5:45 You know something's wrong when your hard drive sounds like a 2-stroke engine...
@isaakwelch3451
@isaakwelch3451 4 жыл бұрын
A 2 stroke that nobody ever mixed oil into
@ThatOneGirlThatPlays
@ThatOneGirlThatPlays 4 жыл бұрын
So the 512k version never got released? Bruh, sounds like you DID get the test model. Jackpot!
@scottcol23
@scottcol23 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too. But upon reading the blog, What they meant was there was a 128k and a 256k expansion card available and a 512k was in development. Not the machine itself. you can see the one Clint has has 2 256k boards (the bottom 2). If he had one open slot we would know he had a 512k board.
@psychodeli
@psychodeli 4 жыл бұрын
This was very cool. I remember the days of hand written letters from Ken in South Africa in the 80's. He is proper stand up guy!
@TechnicolorMammoth
@TechnicolorMammoth 4 жыл бұрын
7:53 I literally caught myself with my hands over my mouth, then Clint goes "my heart is still racing" AND being up till 4:22 in the morning working on computers. Haha...ahhh geeking out is really the best.
@BB-nn9en
@BB-nn9en 4 жыл бұрын
If you contact Ken Williams I bet he'd do an interview with you.
@SwedishEmpire1700
@SwedishEmpire1700 4 жыл бұрын
...or demand his computer back.
@davidchappelle6393
@davidchappelle6393 4 жыл бұрын
In the video it shows that he actually did contact Ken WIlliams and received a confirmation that this was his PCjr
@Sparky1002
@Sparky1002 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidchappelle6393 on top of that he said the Pc jr would be worth a lot of Money by ken himself in the letter .. a Nice Piece of History ... how the PC Jr never ended back in Ken Williams hands is a Mystery ....
@thorrollosson
@thorrollosson 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool indeed. If I had to guess given the context and the time this thing ended its service, it probably was long past being a priority or really all that relevant to Ken circa 1990 onwards. As we saw in the video, even this basic title was no longer truly playable even on an unreasonably upgraded Jr, so for Sierra in general, it had fulfilled its duties and was ready for the farm. Thankfully it was saved and preserved due to an amazing series of circumstances for our viewing pleasure and Clint's safe hands for safekeeping. It's humbling to think about the sheer volume of stuff that wasn't so lucky, and was long ago trashed/recycled/lost/destroyed. Like, imagine some of the ID PCs and NextBox stuff circa '91-'96ish. If any of those are out there, must be completely fascinating. I gotta say, along with speaking with Woz, watching LGR is some of the best warm fuzzies possible with the curiosity and nostalgia glow. I guess it helps me understand a handful of people feeling that way asking me stuff, though I feel I'm far FAR less noteworthy.
@jbfarley
@jbfarley 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sparky1002 nobody picked it up, obviously
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw "Ken Williams modified Super-Junior at your service" pop onto the screen... wow. This Computer Reset adventure was so worth it, this truly is PC archaeology. It gave me nostalgia goosebumps guys. Well done Clint, this is why we love this channel so much.
@anotheruser9876
@anotheruser9876 4 жыл бұрын
"He's dead, Jim" -Bones on the NCC-1701
@starfrost6816
@starfrost6816 4 жыл бұрын
that could actually be a beta version of codename iceman. the dates are a few months earlier.
@rawr51919
@rawr51919 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking, too. Clint just found betas thought to be lost to time. What a find, LGR.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 4 жыл бұрын
Colton Rushton Not Betas. Completely unreleased internal builds not intended to leave the company. Ken may be able to recognize the old files. From the various labels etc. I would guess this was Kens old computer relegated to being a "minimum system requirements and Tandy/jr compatibility test rig" in the QA department. May have been their only machine with genuine PCjr graphics, audio and keyboard, hence contacting an oddball place like Computer Reset to try getting new disk drives for continued use of an otherwise outdated machine.
@rawr51919
@rawr51919 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Those internal builds are still technically betas and give insight into the development of the game itself.
@Logan912
@Logan912 4 жыл бұрын
@@rawr51919 They'd be alphas if they were only intended for use within Sierra On-Line.
@tmack729
@tmack729 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the internet. "well technically it's an alpha". "well technically it's a beta". Ad infinitum, anywhere comments can be made across the entire information superhighway. What are we doing?
@teh_supar_hackr
@teh_supar_hackr 4 жыл бұрын
Binini lady is my favourite character in Sierra adventure games! Right next to Shirt, and Wave!
@Filsaveol
@Filsaveol 4 жыл бұрын
Ken Williams must be relieved there was no browser history on his PCJr
@cabokenw
@cabokenw 3 жыл бұрын
Grin! Probably VERY true!
@TechnicolorMammoth
@TechnicolorMammoth 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I knew there was some juicy bits from the Computer Reset mini haul Clint got, but this is absolute gold and absolutely historical in its way. And, this was rotting away to be forgotten and bulldozed before it was thankfully saved! *edit* Welp, Ken Williams confirms, this is definitely gold and definitely historical in more than its own way. Phenomenal save, Clint!
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 4 жыл бұрын
8:30 Computer: literally explodes, smoking. LGR: We're getting somewhere! XD
@debrataylor4206
@debrataylor4206 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! My husband and I may have actually seen that Jr. way back when. We ran the No Name RBBS, and Ken wanted to start up a bulletin board for SOL, so he invited our family up to their house in Corsegold. This was on New Year's Day either 1986/87. The Jr. had been out for a few years by then as our kids had been playing King's Quest on it. We had a great time visiting with Ken and Roberta and the two boys, and worked hard getting the bulletin board up. Before we left to come home, Ken took us on a tour of the offices, and sent us on our way with a copy of every program that they had published. Later, Ken would call and have my husband help him Alpha test an interactive helicopter flying program. If you hear from Ken again, tell him that the Taylor's from No Name RBBS say "hi".
@RMPANDA964
@RMPANDA964 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the shock and horror if Clint made a typo and formatted C drive?
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 4 жыл бұрын
Omg,I thought be did for a second there
@Tedd755
@Tedd755 4 жыл бұрын
how do you mistype and end up with "format c:"?
@RMPANDA964
@RMPANDA964 4 жыл бұрын
TeddtheTiger shit can happen. You mean to type in “format A:” and without thinking type “format C:”
@VectraQS
@VectraQS 4 жыл бұрын
@@RMPANDA964 But the FORMAT program handles those cases differently. Typing "format a:" results in "Insert new diskette in drive A and press ENTER," while typing "format c:" results in "WARNING! All data on non-removable disk drive C will be erased! Do you wish to continue (Y/N)?" Pressing enter then quits the program. In addition, if the disk has a volume label, it must be entered to proceed with the format.
@silkwesir1444
@silkwesir1444 4 жыл бұрын
@@VectraQS umm, that additional confirmation was only introduced in later DOS versions, 5 or 6, not sure which. This looks like it probably is an older one, which does not have it.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket 4 жыл бұрын
I've worked with Adventure Game Studio. That "control map" mode brought back some memories. The tool where you paint the various zones (walkable area, parts of the background that overlap the characters, triggers to transition to other screens) creates solid-colored areas of different colors similar to that. It also uses "ego" as the default name of the player character.
@MatroxMillennium
@MatroxMillennium 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm so glad you're the one that ended up with this. I couldn't think of a better choice for someone to document this machine.
@themegaman91965
@themegaman91965 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Loved how you persisted into getting it to work to show us an amazing piece of history, and I definitely look forward to more of these awesome tech videos; keep up the good work!!!
@psychbabble8960
@psychbabble8960 4 жыл бұрын
This was an absolute joy to behold. I couldn't help but giggle as you slowly made progress or simply experimented with the software. This captured computer magic like other content rarely gets to do. Thank you for your time and effort.
@Spam97
@Spam97 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Clint , thanks for preserving and giving us access to such old and fascinating things !
@malbeth8700
@malbeth8700 4 жыл бұрын
That trepidation when you got the directory listing is awesome to watch!
@tomypower4898
@tomypower4898 4 жыл бұрын
Malbeth and.....yes! is worked
@oldhermitman
@oldhermitman 4 жыл бұрын
I have never been so excited about a KZfaq video before. I’m a huge Sierra fan and this is amazing. Great find. Congrats, Sir!
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there, sent you an email last week… Always enjoy your content. I just purchased a huge storage unit full of vintage computers from the mid-70s up to the mid-80s, maybe some early 90s stuff. I hope I can get with you and figure out what to do with some of the stuff. Dozens and dozens and dozens of beautiful vintage computers, a lot of early Apple stuff, and all kinds of crazy beautiful unopened new things. Thanks for the great channel and content!
@Clazzette
@Clazzette 3 жыл бұрын
Came to see and ask if LGR followed you up with regards to this. :D
@TzOk
@TzOk 4 жыл бұрын
As the MOTD says - remember to park the hard-drive, before turning the computer off.
@LGR
@LGR 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely did before moving it, now that it's spinning again at least :)
@nicholasdill6630
@nicholasdill6630 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny, this computer was used in the place that I now live! And it went from Nebraska to Dallas! So cool! Keep up the good work Clint!
@fanofCOH
@fanofCOH 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all these videos, talk about some trips down memory lane. Keep up the quality content LGR!
@StevenS757
@StevenS757 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you got your hands on THE Ken Williams' old PC Jr. That's an AMAZING find. I loved all the old SIerra adventure games. It's even more amazing that you were able to get the data off the hard drive. Congratulations!
@dickmonti9899
@dickmonti9899 4 жыл бұрын
Clint, you BLEW MY MIND with this one! Nice video! Good eye too, what a purchase!
@Nick-dw7gg
@Nick-dw7gg 4 жыл бұрын
This video is insanely cool, thanks for all your hard work
@dawnbreaker2912
@dawnbreaker2912 4 жыл бұрын
I love that it has the full EGA palette right on the startup screen. Like, 'YEAH, look at all these colors!'.
@gwishart
@gwishart 4 жыл бұрын
Although ironically, it displays them in text mode rather than one of the PC Jr enhanced bitmap modes. So it isn't doing anything that a standard CGA card couldn't do.
@MrRustynutts
@MrRustynutts 4 жыл бұрын
wow, this is amazing, great work getting it up and running, you have unearthed a great piece of sierra history there. That deserves its own special glass case in a computer museum somewhere.
@brycevo
@brycevo 4 жыл бұрын
A Sierra Online QA PCjr, that is awesome!
@brycevo
@brycevo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the ❤️ and really great Episode
@nateg452
@nateg452 4 жыл бұрын
Ken Williams's no less!
@SportBikeAnthony
@SportBikeAnthony 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard about rifa capacitors until my friend with a reel to reel needed assistance recapping his 2 weeks ago. Supposedly they're famous for catching stuff on fire.
@rommix0
@rommix0 2 жыл бұрын
and smelling really bad after they explode.
@the47blog16
@the47blog16 4 жыл бұрын
So glad something like this history piece has been picked up by you of all people!! You rock and its rollin thanks for that very interesting and entertaining video (and channel)!
@optiquest86
@optiquest86 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this experience, Clint! It's brought back memories of the good ol days in ways that even the hunt through the warehouse itself didn't quite evoke. :)
@nikedude3660
@nikedude3660 4 жыл бұрын
watching older PCs getting revived is so satisfying to watch , especially when it used to belong to a company
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
I was really worried you'd get it to work for 5 minutes, and then it'd die right as it started copying the interesting stuff. i've had sporadic luck with these old hard drive.
@reeffeeder
@reeffeeder 4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome Clint. Thanks for sharing! Brought back memories from my childhood playing Sierra games on the 386
@PKpaula425
@PKpaula425 4 жыл бұрын
I could not believe it when i saw this in the OG computer reset video, but that Ken Williams personalized message blew me away! What a fantastic find.
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 4 жыл бұрын
Our man LGR making videos for us at midnight
@5kogur
@5kogur 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool that Ken himself could confirm this!
@stevezelenko3558
@stevezelenko3558 4 жыл бұрын
Ken and Roberta Williams and all of Sierra On-Line set the core passion I had for computers at such a young age. I am still in the IT field working and building cool technology but I still can't help but think of all the memories with King's Quest, Police Quest, our own IBM AT and PS/2 computers in pieces in our basement because my dad got them as non working units. You having the actual Ken Williams computer is pretty friggen cool man. I'd flip out if I got that thing from a back of a warehouse. That's like finding a Picasso at a garage sale.
@robbyrob4242
@robbyrob4242 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos helped me through my depression last year. Thank you for that. Keep up the great content!
@rickdeckard7098
@rickdeckard7098 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to park that hard drive!
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 4 жыл бұрын
sudo hdparm -y /dev/sda
@berkly__05
@berkly__05 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'm just curious, who are those people, who dislike actually interesting stuff ?
@rugxulo
@rugxulo 4 жыл бұрын
Bots, probably. Dunno why.
@JohnnyKusiga
@JohnnyKusiga 4 жыл бұрын
Happy with a video YT recommended to me, such an awesome find and great to watch you get it going!
@movax20h
@movax20h 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that you get hold of Ken Williams and got a response of what it possibly was. Cheers.
@HelloKittyFanMan..
@HelloKittyFanMan.. 4 жыл бұрын
Awww, that Cancan MIDI is so CUTE! I could just squeeze its little cheeks (all 4)!
@qu4dq0r3
@qu4dq0r3 4 жыл бұрын
hm would be a nice touch if you can send the stuff you managed to save to Ken Williams, on stylish floppies :D for keepsakes i think he would appreciate it since he loved that comp
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like he’d love that. LGR, you know what to do...
@cpufreak101
@cpufreak101 4 жыл бұрын
turns out the guy isn't even in the computer world anymore, instead being into boating. he probably wouldn't even want it
@sandelic1
@sandelic1 4 жыл бұрын
Old PC of Ken Williams! That's amazing! So happy you managed to get it up and running!
@k0nstntcs798
@k0nstntcs798 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos bring me so much joy.
@joelferguson6599
@joelferguson6599 4 жыл бұрын
RIFA MADNESS!!! someone call Dave at the EEVBLOG
@Kazuo1G
@Kazuo1G 4 жыл бұрын
IMAGE THAT FREAKIN DISK. THAT'S HISTORY.
@grumpyoldwizard
@grumpyoldwizard 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this...I. Really wanted one when they came out. Thank you for the memories! It looks like you had a great night or two (more?). Grats VGR!
@nunyobiznez875
@nunyobiznez875 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome video. I've been looking forward to seeing this in a video, from the moment I saw this system found at Computer Reset. What a fortunate and fascinating find.
@purplewavetech
@purplewavetech 4 жыл бұрын
You are the only guy I upvote as soon as the video starts.
@dylan8736
@dylan8736 4 жыл бұрын
"Sorry sorry sorry sorry" -Super Junior
@MurrayDagostino
@MurrayDagostino 4 жыл бұрын
That was super awesome, great Ken Williams reaction too. And I think its just in the right place with you Clint. Enjoy this piece of Sierra History. Awesome.
@matt_b...
@matt_b... 4 жыл бұрын
Duuuude I was waiting ALL DAY to watch this. Did not disappoint. I can't believe you got your hands on some old school SOL gear! Really cool
@panzerstef
@panzerstef 4 жыл бұрын
David (The 8-bit guy)'s Osborne 1 blew up beacuse of that capacitor
@ayitsyaboi
@ayitsyaboi 4 жыл бұрын
Everything from that era blows up due to those tantalums. They do not age well.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 4 жыл бұрын
steazye RIFA caps are not tantalum. They are "self-healing" paper caps approved for safety critical mains use (class X and/or Y). They are built to fail in a predictable and documented way to avoid killing the user. First many failures will destroy a pinprick sized piece of metalized paper and leave the rest working. Final failure will destroy the cap without causing a short circuit. They are still available from electronics wholesalers. Wrong moisture level in the air may significantly accelerate failure, because it's paper. There are now ceramic alternatives available with the same values and approvals.
@suprastevio2264
@suprastevio2264 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 That's super interesting, thank you for that information sir!
@maverickbna
@maverickbna 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of ScummVM. I now use that for all my Sierra games.
@Phoenixesper1
@Phoenixesper1 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god I can relate to the sheer panic of playing beat the clock with a rickety old harddrive turned on for the first time in decades. I once got an LC2 mac on ebay. Because I knew that the drive if it even turned on would likely crok due to the rubber rings in it bursting into tar, I removed and tested the floppy drive, it was dead, and so swapped it with a working one before I even tried turning on the computer. With a stack of 50 mac formatted 1.44 floppies, I turned it on and to my amazement it worked flawlessly, for precisely 22 minutes, all of which was a frantic chaos of transferring 40 megs of hardrive files onto floppies at a rate of one floppy per minute. After the last file was transferred the computer drive lasted another 4 minutes long enough for me to erase all the non system files on the drive and then I heard the whining grind as the computer froze signalling the rubber bumpers had ruptured spewing tar all over the heads destroying the drive completely.
@Mouzekiller83
@Mouzekiller83 4 жыл бұрын
this is once more so damn retro and i freaking love it! love your effort,clint!
@AlejandroFerrariMc
@AlejandroFerrariMc 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this, since I saw it on the warehouse video. Thanks! :D
@tbonez5906
@tbonez5906 4 жыл бұрын
YES! My first computer love it! lol... way to go Clint.... you make the legacy world come alive for everyone... now get the cartridge Scuba Hunt for the cartridge bay : )
@dkehrerproductions
@dkehrerproductions 4 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos about this old computer stuff .
@ajbrown7245
@ajbrown7245 4 жыл бұрын
Ken and Roberta Williams were ahead of their time. I played so many wonderful Sierra games. watching this brought back memories.
@Mozdoc
@Mozdoc 4 жыл бұрын
When it breathed to life did anyone else start screaming "DUMP! DUMP THE DATA! ITS DYING! HURRY! DISKS! NOW!"
@yamira.737
@yamira.737 4 жыл бұрын
Chill
@csabasanta5696
@csabasanta5696 4 жыл бұрын
I'm screaming like a teenage girl at an 'nsync concert!
@r9delta104
@r9delta104 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome man. Also I love what you do. I've been such a huge fan of your channel since the beginning and it keeps my love for DOS games alive. I hope to have an old 486 to pentium 1 era setup at some point and get away from solely just using dosbox but honestly can't afford it. People on ebay know what they have and there isn't really anywhere good locally to find parts or complete systems for cheap.
@Worhan
@Worhan 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool to have a glimpse into the QA process for older games, especially since Sierra has a special place in my heart. Was kinda hoping for a QA version of one of the Space Quest games!
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