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Randy would probably have left Oz band after the last tour before he died. He could easily have been another guitar hero left in the dark. There are many great musicians not getting the attention they deserve.

Fuck Ozzy and Sharon for being shady towards Randy Rhoads

BINGO.

Randy already said he was leaving after his contract was up with ozzy. He was already on his way out. !!! Then. That happened :( !!!

Yeah, me too. It's way over due.

I believe that . Greed

If Ozzy and Sharon weren't gonna make a ton of money from it they won't do it . And Sharon feels the need to try and protect Ozzy from all the bad things he did to not just anyone but also to Randy .Ozzy got crazy drunk and went off on his band members all the time including Rhoads . I mean he punched Randy in the face and called him a ungrateful little shit when Randy told Ozzy he wanted to leave the band and go to UCLA to get a classical music degree . Ozzy couldn't be happy or at least support for his best friend ? No instead sucker punching Randy and shunning him for wanting to better himself. What kind of friend acts like that to another friend . especially one that help bring you back from the musician graveyard .Let's be real back when ozzy was first trying to put together a band after being fired from black sabbath he found it hard to get anyone already seasoned and accomplished . In other words guys that had already made a name for themselves in the music industry . In the beginning he wanted Gary Moore on guitar and he said no . he wanted Tommy Aldridge and he had just got outta the Pat Travers Band and had started working with Gary Moore and wouldn't play in a Ozzy led band .and the other reason he finally did end up taking Ozzy up on his offer after Bob and Lee got fired was because he wanted the chance to work with Randy .had it been anyone else Tommy said he wouldn't have joined Ozzy . was Randy's idea to bring in Rudy Sarso after ozzy fired Bob so actually Randy was like the biggest reason for Ozzy having that much success early on and Ozzy and Sharon knew this would all come out in the documentary if they got on board in this .nor had they done their own story about Randy . They know that all the other members knew about Ozzys treatment of themselves and figured it would be in their best interest to never do one .Rhoads family had to sue the Osbornes for Randy's royalties and they ended up settling out of court with the Osbornes which also came with the stipulation that they wouldn't talk publicly about things that related with the time the Randy was in the band . And if you think or go check on it they never have gone public with anything personal about Ozzy and Sharon . This was basically hush money and was quite shocked that Randy's mother Dee went along with this but she did along with his brother and sister .

@@johnhagan582 the one thing Ozzy had going for him after being fired from Black Sabbath was a built in fan base, he was extremely fortunate to have the song writing team that somehow came together, like winning the lottery. But yeah, they protect themselves at all costs, and another thing about Randy Rhoads is he didn’t have the insecurities that Ozzy and Sharon and EVH had, he wasn’t hung up on the fortune and fame.

He would know better than us.

Ozzy legit cries when he talks about Rhoads. So saying he only cares about the money is fucking stupidity....now Sharon on the other hand has and always will be a greedy talentless bitch.

Thank you!!!

tell more stories please. Randy did get signed to a deal before Ed unfortunately it broke down and the best they could manage was japan, but he was never able to write the stuff he wanted to until he joined the blizzard of ozz. I believe what you are saying, because you could hear it at the seminar and read in interviews. Randy was more comfortable in his skin and he absolutely lauded Eddie's playing, Randy was very nice on other guitarists thinking they are all brought something to the table from angus. to Michael Schenker, to Blackmore to west.... Someone has told me, they believe, Ed was envious of Randy, not for his playing, but for his knowledge of the instrument and theory, Ed was self taught for the most part, but he never could write melodies like Randy because Randy knew so much about the guitar. And though people rip his tone I think nothing has ever sounded like his tone on the first two Blizzard of ozz albums, if you listen to the opening of I DOn't Know on earphones it is goose bump quality......does not even sound like a guitar, most unique tone I have ever heard to this day rumor has it that Randy actually thought George Lynch was the best of the 3, but my theory is , if he did say that, that was more of a dig at Eddie

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle ...This is Well said. 👍💯

@@reeseb7522 high five flying v style

Man I wish I could’ve sat down with Randy and just BS about life and guitar. Very envious

I was on the tour when Randy was killed, he wasn't the only one. It was an excruciatingly painful thing. I don't blame Sharon or Ozzy for feeling like this is exploitation.

@@IndependentThoughts911 what do you mean you were on the tour? Are you Jake Duncan?

I don’t know why it took so Long 🤔 His Legacy must Go On .

He sure was, but damn. I do love that dimebag

@@steveangello6586 Dimebag was another fantastic guitarist for sure. Amazing technique and his playing was pure fury.

@@steveangello6586 all of them was great. Criss Oliva from Savatage was quite a talent also gone too soon. Check him out if you've never. Criss was quite under the radar.

@@thomasbrown2465 Criss Oliva 🤘

@@steveangello6586 Dime is a B leaguer and should not be mentioned on a page with Randy come on

his legacy lives on through teachers who were inspired by his playing

​@Dave Wight Jimi Fritz is an amazing guitarist and a hell of a teacher too

That is what I think. I do t understand the rivalry thing. Two very different styles and different music.

No rivalry for me I loved them both, Eddy was all things white and Randy was all things dark. Those 2 albums with Ozzy are embedded in my soul and wore them out learning every note. I was 17 playing in an all original band in Atlanta, being from Connecticut I was out driving the keyboard players car down the highway towards downtown and Ozzy's tour bus flew by me going 90+ mph, they were playing the Omni, as much as I wanted to follow that bus to the Omni we had a gig too so I couldn't but figured no biggie I will see him soon, a few days later he died in that plane crash,, broke my heart.

@@gep2771 the two Blizzard of ozz band albums are masterpieces

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle they were great, lot of credit to Max Norman, like Ted Templeman with VH he made it all happen and made it huge in a very short time frame.

@@gep2771 a loto f credit to Max, but a lot of credit to the band for producing the first album and getting the exact sound they wanted with Max's help

It does seem a little bit insecure for Van Halen as the legend goes to hide his technique from Rhoads....but as Joe Satriani said once no matter what a guitarist comes up with there are guys like Steve Vai out there who will figure it out quickly so pointless.

Mike B that is pretty much it in a nutshell...

@@Siloguy Not pointless, before he was signed why would he give that away so another person could claim credit for it. Look what almost happened EVH was friends with a band called Angel, he played them some tracks prior to the first album being released, Angel jumped into the studio and tried to put out you really got me after hearing it amd knowing it would be on the first VH record, stuff like that is why. At the time in 1976-77-78 no one played like EVH he was ahead of the curve at that time.

Ozzy and Darth Hideous are lowlifes, they stole, ripped people off, Darth Hideous is a vile human being. BUT I will say they do protect the Rhoads family on some level, the families are close for whatever reason I believe, but I will always wonder why the Osbournes do not have Jack do a doucmentary on Randy......

Ditto Tim.

Love Ozzie the artist..can't stand Sharon at all..wsy to many reasons..to mention out here..she is what's wrong..in the music business today period!!!! With that beign said..both very influential... Both almost the same age..Eddie! Two years randys..senior... Sharon! Was actually screwing randy..around this time also..

Never say never, ...who knows what's happening in heavens band?

evh would have never collaborated with randy, ed was too cocky and full of himself.... ed never collabed with any guitarist

@@tonybarber420 Actually not true, Ed did a record with Brian May of Queen called "Starfleet Project"

And Sammy Hagar

He never would have collaborated with Randy. Or any guitarist he would be threatened by or compared to. Brian May and Hagar are not shredders.

Guitar Rocks777, agreed and there is more footage out there that us fans have not seen.

@@owlperchedsilo3745 Sharon and Ozzy are sitting on a lot of it but they won't release it , greedy bastards

@sd absolutely, anything in Sharon's hands... It's a shame, but there was a few things even randy didn't want released, like his tone from a few shows due to the venue, he was a perfectionist

Pretty much tells us just how much they did love him ( osbournes that is ) More I think about it , I think it was all about the money . If it wasn’t for Randy those 2 albums wouldn’t exist and Ozzy may have been forgotten . Randy’s awesome work made the osbournes quite a fortune. They went on to enjoy the money and Randy went to Heaven. Breaks my heart .💔💔🙏🙏🕊🕊🎚🎚🎸🎸

I'm glad you put that out there my brother

Randy’s the best guitar player ever

All hail the mighty Bob Daisley! He was the man!

@@MotownGuitarJoe He still is the man...Bob hasn't died yet.

@@oziebrayman4608 yep...I'm a bass player myself and Daisley is my favorite bassist followed by Dennis Dunaway and Steve Harris.

Facts

So true

AMEN !

Remember Ozzy did this Randy Rhoads tribute album, I'm sure he made a s*** ton of money off of that, and how much of that went to the Randy Rhodes estate probably none.

I have to agree with you there. From what I have read of Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne, they are very ruthless when it comes to the business of music. They even tried to withhold the royalties from the recordings Randy made while he was with Ozzy. And I simply cannot find it in me to forgive them for hiring a person like Andrew Aycock on the tour in the first place. According to Ritchie Blackmore the guy was bad news because he had a "Black Aura" around him, which to a psychic means death is imminent in that person, and he got rid of him. Next thing you know he is on the Ozzy "Diary Of A Madman" tour. I simply do not think that is pure coincidence.

not allowed is not the correct phrasing, I am sure if someone wanted to follow Randy and take pics and videos it would happen., I mean there are endless pics of him. Now, why is there such dearth of video, well Sharon completely fumbled with the advent of the MTV ERA, she did not have a video or two ready to go, she did not schedule the band for live interviews just Ozzy, or have them come into the MTV studios., she did not have professional shot concerts videos like some bands were doing back then...... But, we now know there are, or have beem told there are 5 videos professional shot from Albuerquerque, someone released Mr Crowley but alleges 4 others but says he knows people who shot the video and they were TOLD to focus on ozzy and really the only other person mostly featured is Rudy. They should have been on the right side of the stage, for Sharon to not know that was prime real estate either was negligeence or she wanted to minimize Randy....

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Sharon Is ……..

ozzy and sharon knew randy was gonna leave the band as soon as his contract was up , and coincidentally randy dies in a plane crash that no other of the band members were involved in . seems fishy to me and makes me wonder if sharon and or ozzy had anything to do with the plane crashing and killing randy .

@@marleonetti7 Does seem a little coincidentally that only he was the only band member up in that plane like that . And Sharon knew that the pilot had killed someone else in a helicopter accident while being a pilot for Deep Purple before this . Makes you wonder don't it ? Rudy said right after the crashed that Sharon started screaming at their tour manager for letting Randy go up saying didn't you kno that he killed one of the Calhoun Brothers (owners of the tour bus company and the estate that they were at that morning) Don Airy the keyboard player said he saw Randy Struggling with the pilot on that last pass right before the crash . Rudy Sarso still swears that it was no accident . thinks the pilot was purposely trying to take out the bus to kill his ex wife that they had just picked up after leaving the Knoxville show the night before and was standing in the bus doors watching the whole time . supposedly he had been doing coke all night and after picking her up was fighting and begging his ex wife to take him back . Who kno's ? Maybe Sharon got in the pilots ear and set the whole thing up but that seems a little to crazy considering the pilot would basically be on a suicide solution mission . some more irony there with that song title huh ?

Good question, case in point watch the crazy train video, the minute Randy goes into the solo the camera goes to Ozzy , it’s almost like they didn’t want Randy in the spot light kinda like Sharon felt that all the attention would be taken off Ozzy , let’s be truthful had it not been for Randy ? Ozzy would have been ODd in a hotel somewhere , Randy made Ozzy , wanna see another Sharon greed fest ? Eddie interviewed Jake E Lee as well and Jake said they screwed him as well that’s how she rolls

Agreed

That's right Franco!!!

EVH mastered classic just listen to hus acoustic pieces which are far beyond RR. Get over it. 1977 -78 EVH was a master on FIRE! RR was too late to be the GUY. He stole his ideas from Jimi and EVH. let's be real

@@user-kz4ll8of3k That is your opinion. Iam not putting Eddie down and when he came out of was 13 at the time sure he blew my mind. I just found Randy's approach more melodic

NO NO NO That is a cop "opinion" ppl always say that BS and YOU KNOW IT. RR did not change the wotrld at all by any means. FACT Both EVH had an impact on the ENTIRE PLANET OVER NIGHT! RR did not until he died like SRV. I never heard of SRV until he was on the NEWS DEAD. Stop using cop outs. @@francovani393

@@terryhorton817 I’ve been playing seriously for about 16 years. I have to say the first Van Halen album and the first ozzy album is equally as impressive guitar wise. It just depends on my mood but I’ve spent years digging each note apart on all songs and I think that they are equal. I personally like Van Halen 1 a tiny bit more but then throw in diary of a madman and now I cannot decide. That’s the thing about good music, it is subjective and it is purely art. All three albums I just talked about are some of the most magical things I’ve ever heard from this life. I’m just happy I can listen to these gems and am always getting new people to hear this gold some of us want to argue over. Randy Rhoads for sure had his own style on the same spectrum as EVH. I personally like the style of Randy better. It may just go along with my personality because I’m a darker more realist person. I just personally connect with minor scales and darker guitar under tones to playing. Van Halen is more major based music and happier. I love both and think Randy is a better player but Eddie was a better performer. Hard to really debate because Randy died so young and we had the joy of watching EVH go through his rise and demise and back to his rise again due to personal demons. There were some years where Eddie couldn’t play at all. But that is because he was human and had personal issues, which makes me love him that much more. But if you look at album sales and who was more successful, you can’t really get much more successful than Ozzy lol. Not sure what you are trying to say that Ozzy was jealous of VH in some way. I think Ozzy had bigger concerns throughout his life

@@joshuablair252 You hit it on the head. Guitarwise, Blizzard was real good, plus the songs. The problem with it, as I've concluded by listening to the first 3 back to back, is production. Credited are Ozzy and Randy as producer. The albums had gotten progressively better, and I can only conclude that Max Norman is responsible. Ted Templeman was a pure hit maker. That's why Van Halen hit it out of the park on their first try. Now, try to imagine Bark At The Moon with Randy's guitar and Max Norman at the helm. You'd find very little to disparage either band, put up against each other.

@@joshuablair252 You're right, both Van Halen and Blizzard of Oz were Masterpieces. I thought Diary of a Madman was even better. Van Halen 2 was great, but not as good as Van Halen.

One has to respect what Gillis did, though. He learned those songs in a very short amount of time and gave a good account of himself.

@@sirchromiumdowns2015 What Brad Gillis was superhuman, both technically and psychologically.

From tapes of that period, Gillis was insanely great though. And, honestly, had some of the best tone of any Ozzy sideman.

@@sirchromiumdowns2015 No doubt he was a true professional... it just wasn't the same without Randy.

Brad did an awesome job given the circumstances. 🤘

how luck were you to see Rhoads live, ed is great too But i listen to the live bootlegs of Randy and the guy made the songs sound better each and every time I think he is a better live player than Ed, but I only ever saw Ed play live

me too....i saw Randy with Ozzy at the Capital Theater in Passaic Randy was mind blowing

Whenever someone asks a question like that, I say something like "Depends on the Day". There is an old Roman Proverb, "When it comes to matters of taste, there can be no disputes". I like Ice Cream, I like Steak, neither is "better", they are what they are, different, but equally satisfying for purpose. My "Fav" Guitarist depends on what day you ask me.

Why have a “favorite “? Both players made rock guitar playing fun again and very interesting. My heart and head are full of their contributions to the guitar world. I have it made!

Randy was more classical but they were pretty similar in the way they attacked the guitar

@Brent Lohr, Right On! I feel the same way as should all music fans & people in this world in general. Many people overlook or take for granted just how important music is for each & everyone of us in our life. For without it, many of us would most likely be insane. When this issues come up my go to for the easiest explanation of common sense, is a video interview I like to share by "1" of the greatest drummers to hit the skins, Mr. Billy Cobham! Check it out if you're interested, & share it if you come across someone who doesn't get what the true purpose of music is all about. YT link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apeUgpVqmsXQpWQ.html ++++++Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul++++++

I grew up listening and learning every EVH and Randy lick, they were both great, Eddy's playing was all things cool bright and sexy like beaches in the summer, Randy was more dark and gloomy, his playing had a sometimes angry and mad edge like his end solo in "Tonite", or he could bring you to tears with a sad emotional solo like in "Goodbye to Romance". I saw Eddy in 79 and 80 however and nobody could touch him then, he was a monster with not only incredible timing but a hand that could crush walnuts.

Sharon’s dad was something of a gangster and obviously she has learned and even exceeded him.

The scene was very competitive back then. I wasn't clear if Eddie said that stuff while Randy was alive or afterward. RR's style is way different than Eddie's- they sound nothing alike.

@@sirchromiumdowns2015 I think so, Randy seemed more schooled and classically influenced despite Ed also being classically trained on piano Randy iirc used to take classical guitar lessons whenever he could.

I believe Randy asked Eddie how he kept his guitar in tune after using the tremolo. Eddie didn't want to reveal his secrets.

@@JoeR203 Thats right. There was no rivalry. They both did there own thing. Randy's students would want Randy to show them how to play certain songs from all kinds of bands & VH was one of them. And Randy did pick up on the hammer on technique that Eddie himself didn't create but did make popular. Thats all.

@@JoeR203 that sounds about right. I couldn't remember what it was.

Agreed most people don't realize Ozzy and Sharon get everyone to write their music and sign all publishing rights over to them they don't even get credit on the album's most the time. Hell Ozzy doesn't even write all of his lyrics. It's tough with Randy was by far the best of his solo career oh, don't get it wrong Jake E. Lee and Zakk Wylde or incredible guitar players to but they just didn't have the magic that Randy did.

He loved Randy alright, he loved him enough to bully him and punch him in the face before he died.

Sharon is the daughter of Don Arden who was along with being a manager of bands was a London organized crime figure.....Sharon isn't a lot different.

Jake E Lee is better

@@deanvoss7098 all a matter of opinion my friend

……. The problem with that is Randy had been gone for about 15 months So it’s pretty irrelevant considering the subject matter …….

Triumph killed it that day. 🤘🎸

@@mrmercedes8528 Absolutely. Correct. Pretty much dosent matter at this point.

@emissaryrocks @misspvtledbetter Not meaning to be rude or anything but what is your point ? It was to late for Randy.

you are correct

@Professor Felipe 87, Whaatt...? Exactly what do you think the "riffs" Randy came up with are? Hint, they're the main ideas of song writing. Rhoads had just as much input writing those songs on BOO & DOAM, as Bob Daisley did my friend. Trust me, Bob himself will admit to that, & if he doesn't, well then Bob's FOS! There's NO way those songs get written the way they are without Randy Rhoads, period. IDGAS who says who,what,when,why, or how today, to toot their own horn, now that Randy's not here to confirm anything. For instance, yes it's true Bob wrote the lyrics for the song DOAM when he was around 16. However, the main structure of that song is a classical guitar heavy melody & that wasn't Bob's doing, it was all Randy. Bob Daisley & Randy Rhoads wrote the vast majority of those songs together, along with a bit of input by Lee Kerslake & Don Airey's. Just saying... "Long Live Rock & Roll"

two great players/songwriters just did it in different ways

what's the point of that ? seems like the better story would be to talk about Carlos and Randy being cordial to each other...

no it's symbolic he was a raging leftist

No, its correct.

@@jonrhythm3686 How is Rhodes correct? Isn’t it Rhoads?

@@jonrhythm3686 Nope....His last name is spelled "Rhoads."

They fixed it afterwards. Zakk Wylde talked about how angry he was when he saw that misspelling of his name. I don’t know how it made it through to the presentation. But thankfully it is fixed.

Ridiculous...

I think they don't want the mass public to know 1. Sharon slept with Randy 2. They were more than likely f$cked up on the plane, 3. They have too many musicians they've wronged, and more than likely Randy was quitting the band and probably quitting the music scene all together because he had it with those two

so you must never have seen the Ron Sobol DVD, all this guy did was license other people's work put together some really old interviews. the casual fan probably loves this, it is interesting but I have seen 99% of it. this is better than nothing but he could have done better especially conferring with Rhoads fans

@@colinforsecs3393 I think everyone knows about Randy and Sharon. Not sure what he was thinking there if in fact it's true. There would have been nothing good that came out of a situation like that with a woman capable of the evil that Sharon is to this day. As far as them being fucked up, the pilot was absolutely coked out of his mind. He was in a downward spiral over his lady, who was on the tour bus at the time and there are those who believe that had something to do with what happened. Randy and Rachel were clean as you can be. Randy (who smoked like a fiend) only had nicotine in his system according to the autopsy. There was a lot that went on up there and if you want to find out about it, look for videos where Don Airey, the only actual witness to the crash, and Rudy Sarzo, give their opinions on what happened.

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Well, to my mind anything that gets Randy out there in the public consciousness and tunes people into the history and where it all began I think is great. I have seen Ron Sobol's DVD. I thought it was great as well. Ron was there, he was a friend of Randy's, so that made a huge difference. It was told from a very personal point of view. The problem is, not a ton of the general public saw it, which I always thought was a shame. Randy deserves to be celebrated and weirdly, I think lately, he finally is. Also, there isn't any professional concert footage with Randy at the big venues. There's a bunch of old home video stuff, that's it. I'm not sure why that is, either. It seemed like a no brainer to at least document some of those shows with a real TV truck and do a concert video. And finally (Trolls, here's your chance to call me a liar and a fraud) I was actually a student of Randy's back when I was a teenager. I'm 60 now, but I still think about those amazing lessons and about Randy every day of my life, him putting up with my fumbling fingers and letting me play the white Les Paul cause he loved playing my Strat with the Floyd Rose. Anyway, I'm a pretty big fan of Randy and at the end of the day, I was just happy to see his name and a movie about his life on my streaming service. Peace!

@@douglassloan6831 RANDY JUDAH TORREZ < 👍🏼

3 great players all from the same area, but think about how fate had to intervene for that to happen Ed was not even born in the States. Randy born in saint John's hospital, Ed died there, you do the math

Randy once asked eddie how he did something and eddie turned away and would not ackowledge him. Eddie could have learned some manners from Randy at the least !!

Crazy Train was a phenomenon, probably one of the top 10 rock songs ever. There is no way that didnt make Eddie think.

They were doing the same thing but in their own ways. It`s impossible to say one is better than the other.

I think it is a good hypothesis he would have been begging Sabbath to rejoin if not for the music Bob and Randy wrote

Randy and Bob saved Ozzy's career and kept him from having to beg back into Sabbath

Incorrect. He was the lead singer of black sabbath, thats enough for everlasting fame in rock. He would be nothing without the bandmembers doing most everything...but they did.

always remember that ozzy wrote nothing...it was Bob & Lee...

Agreed. Brad was amazing and did an incredible job coming in to a difficult situation. I was at the Speak of the devil show at the Ritz and Brad stole the show!!! He was smart to leave Ozzy's band before Sharon could take a dump on him.

@@mbass718 So if you want a good listen (I don’t know how to leave links) listen to “ No Guitar Is Safe” podcast episode 2. It Brad Gillis talking about the whole thing. Fantastic story. How he showed up to NYC with like 350 bucks or something. Trying out with no amp. Very cool. No negative stuff about her or ozzy. Just a good story. And there’s hundreds of other awesome episodes besides. Do yourself a favour

@@deanmccaskill5495 Thanks alot.. I'd definitely like to hear it. I'll take a look for it tonight. Appreciate it.

Brad is underappreciated no doubt....he did an amazing job

@@mbass718 if you do let me know. It’s a good 90 mins of awesome interview. Btw I bought TWO Les Pauls today! A 2019 Gold Top 50s Std with P90s and a 2016 Traditional cherry sunburst. New guitars day!!

who are the owners? the Rhoads family was not asked, and they are snakebit from the first experience. The Osbournes are going to protect the rhoads family

??? Zakk has nothing to do with Randy. Not to mention $haron probly threatened him.

@Catty Are you kidding me, Zakk has stated if there was never a Randy there never would have been a Zakk. But I do agree that Sharon probably threatened him. Remember this is the woman he so affectionately calls "mom"

We will catch up with them soon...🎸🎸😎

Ditto

You're not alone. The Ozzy/Sharon duo are driven demons! Looking out for #1 at any & all costs. If other people have to die, so what? I'm glad Jake is still up & running in spite of those 2!

@@Afurthyclays 100% Truth

The f%$ked up thing about the way Ozzy & Co. treated a few musicians who wrote the majority of the songs & literally helped revive Ozzy & his career is. From the start of Black Sabbath all their LP's with Ozzy, most of the writing to Sabbath was done in almost the exact same fashion, but not. Tony Iommi being the riff master & main song writer in Sabbath. And, Geezer wrote the majority of the lyrics to Sabbath tunes. However, being the cool MFers Tony & Geezer were & are. They decided to divide ALL song writing credits on ALL Sabbath songs, to a 4-way even split between the band. No matter how much involvement of the writing Ozzy contributed or not to the songs, it was even Steven! Which makes sh!t like this even worse IMO? That as good & fair Geezer & Tony were to Ozzy by giving him an even share of the song writing & publishing credit on Black Sabbath tunes. Then for Ozzy to go solo & do the complete opposite to members in his band. By taking advantage of them & f%$king them on song writing & publishing royalties that they actually wrote, WTF! Not cool at all in my book? Don't get it twisted, I know & realize Ozzy definitely comes up with the vocal melodies on songs. Even still, c'mon man that's just a D!(K move!

I like that you called them the Blizzard of ozz records...yes that was the name of the band, You're right, i thought I grw up an Ozzy fan but I realized i was a fan of the music he sang on

Nobody cares

@@thestig7603 you replied you idiot. Why reply if you don’t care. F’n moron. Just another F’n moron walking earth as “The Stig”.

RHOADS

@@thestig7603 Rhoads fan do.

He showed what he could do.

@@richcampbell6808 He did show some of what he was capable of. He certainly didn't have enough time to prove that there was a lot more that he was certainly capable of playing. When I listen to "You Can't Kill Rock And Roll" it sends shivers down my spine every time I listen to it.

sure thhe guitar hero covers from Hit pArader

I think a lot of people feel Randy would have been one of the greatest if not ranked as the greatest had he lived. My issue with your comment is putting Kobe in a sentence with Jordan, Kobe was never in that conversation except for Lakers fans who of course are ignorant.

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Michael himself said that the only player who could possibly beat him in a game of basketball was one Kobe Bean Bryant. Michael mastered the game, Kobe cracked the code and quantified Michael’s work, giving the current younger generation the blueprint. The vast majority of the top players currently (KD, Harden, Westbrook, Derozan, Embid, Lebron, etc etc) either looked up to Kobe or flat out idolized him growing up. Kobe was a massive figure, its not improper to compare him and MJ, plenty of non-Laker fans have concurred on that notion as well, including many former pro players.

That’s hard man im a huge Randy fan but Alan holdsworth and Guthrie govan are probably the best

@@sebastiandunbar8766 I wouldn’t put them up there with Randy. They’re great but they didn’t affect the genre the way guys like Hendrix, EVH, and Randy did. I wouldn’t say they’re more skilled than Randy either, because he had serious chops…just consider his age. When he passed, he had only played electric guitar for 13 years. That’s like Guthrie passing in the mid 90s. We’d still remember him as Guitar Magazine’s “Guitarist of the Year,” but obviously his reputation wouldn’t be what it is today if that had happened, nor would we think of him as quite as good of a technical player as he is today. I’d put Guthrie and Holdsworth into the very, very great category, with guys like Andy Timmons, Paul Gilbert, and Satriani, but I believe Randy trascended that category, if only by a little. If just the studio recordings existed I might agree with you, because the studio recordings were crap and the first album was screwed up by changing the band music behind the guitar (during the production stage). However, we have the Tribute album, which lets us hear the full power and tone of Randy playing live. Virtually no one has that kind of stage presence and sound playing live. You also have to give him credit for writing so many epic hits in a short amount of time. Some would say Randy created more memorable sounds than Guthrie has in 30+ years of playing professionally.

well, technically they were signed, to a japanese deal, but what you saying is correct, fate intervenes and sometimes good things come from it. Not making it big in Quiet Riot led to the creation and partnership of Rhoads and Daisley which led to two masterpieces. To me if someone is a rock or metal fan and they do not own those two albums i am not sure what their issue is.

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Yes I know they got signed in Japan, but what I I really meant was here in the US. Randy was a true musical genius!! Yes, if you don’t own theses Two albums, then you’re not a fan of true timeless music.

NO, Randy was going to stop touring he was doing the next album since Bob was back

Are you mad? Bob was never coming back.

two A league guitarists, Ed and George sound more alike especially earlie George. George was more of a van Halen guy, but Rhoads got him a teaching job at Musonia

Bless you ❤️

@JeffroJacobs, I somewhat remember that Glendale college show myself. So, what exactly do you mean by Randy was there as a guest? I mean I recall Rhoads being more than a guest, seeing he played that night with Quiet Riot, it was booked as a double bill with both Van Halen & Quiet Riot jamming. Van Halen may have played 2nd on that gig, but I don't recall it being a VH show, with QR as the true opener? I do know it was kickazz! And as far as there being a "rivalry" between EVH & RR back in the day, there was? Not so much between the 2 directly, but by the media & outside public there was, whether they liked it or not. Magazines like "Hit Parader, Guitar World, Guitar Player," etc... had a issues of debate on Eddie & Randy, back in the 80's. This topic didn't just arise now in 2022, my friend, it's been. Although, there were many great guitarist coming out or already present then, Eddie & Randy were known as the hottest guitarists, not only in the L.A. music scene, but music in general. Especially, by players in the guitar world. Personally I never looked at it like that myself, I love & loved them both, they both brought something special to the table & inspired many. Plus, IMO music is not a contest, it's a part of life we should all be grateful to have & enjoy! +++++++Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul+++++++

@@216Numbskull so yeah' were talking 45+ yrs ago, that's almost half a century, so the gig at Glendale college very well could've been QR and VH. I only remember seeing VH maybe that's why I saw the two chatting together later on. I used to go to all the whisky shows where VH did two set's a night. I was like 13 or 14 and would go with some older friends who would take me upstairs to meet and talk with the band. That's where I specifically heard a conversation and Ed saying, "Rick Derringer ok yeah let's go". I also remember Punky Meadows and Barry Brandt from the band Angel there at almost every show. They were in awe of VH. Barry always stood on the stairs about half way up for the shows. Punky would talk to Edward as he'd changed his strings upstairs. Ed always had an old fender reverb amp he play'd on. Just as Info, I saw VH at the Whisky, Glendale college, Magic Mountain, Santa Monica civic, Long Beach arena, the Coliseum, Anaheim Stadium, the Forum and the US fest. I do agree about the competition thing. No one's "better" their just different. Peace out✌ PS If there was a rivalry thing goin' on it went over my head. So yeah' jus say'n

@@jeffrojacobs8094 Right On! Wow, you just brought back a blast from the past I haven't heard that name in a longtime, "Angel - The Tower" was my jam, man. : ) I've allows wondered why that band never really jumped off with Gene Simmons signing them to KISS's label Casablanca? Anyways, yea those were the day's, good times, good music, & good... Blah,ha,ha!!! I'm sure you say the same thing I tell people when anybody brings up questions about L.A. & The Strip back in the day who are from other cities? It's one of those, "You had to be there to understand." Only few lived to see how crazy yet a great time & place it was to be. Be Cool, Brother! "Long Live Rock & Roll"

Of course she can say she slept with Randy because he is not here to defend himself. But what you say is a good summary of their nefarious actions and backstabbing ways. Ozzy did melody lines, but that is about it, they have screwed over a lot of musicians no doubt

two masterpieces. as Max norman said: Randy's playing from the first album to the second was night and day he had improved that much....which is scary to think about as more guitarists will never write an album as good as blizzard of ozz

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the fans fan the flames but this is exists because each fanbase believes their guy was the best, and then of course growing up in the same area and playing on the same bills added to it, but they really did not pay attention to what the other was doingm each was doing their own thing. Rhoads won a readers' poll for best guitarist in the UK, so clearly Ed was not king, he was king of the pop rock riffs. Randy was metal and doing something different

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I'm not sure what year that was but buy the time Randy was entering people's radar he was gone. In 1982 EVH was the talk of the guitar world and the band was huge. No disrespect but outside a small UK poll the world knew Eddie and he was being compared to Jimmi Hendrix. That was the argument. Sorry that was reality. It's by no means personal because there are guys I prefer listening to over EVH but his contributions to the instrument and the level of his fame in 82 don't need defending .

@@josephperreault997 not true at all he made an impression quick and it has kept growing. BOO was platinum before he died. People in rock circles knew who he was. van Halen is a pop rock band, we are talking about a guy who changed metal and revived a washed up has been in the industry according to many by giving him credibility. If he is being compared to Jimi that's not a good thing, that actually lowers him in my view, Jimi is a b leaguer. I hold Ed well above him and Randy abvove Jimi. metal fans are probably going to side with Rhoads because he did a lot of things include giving it a kick in the rear with fresh new stuff the likes of which had not been heard before.

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Hendrix is a "B"Leaguer. I wish there was some way to conduct a poll amongst the worlds greatest guitar players on that one. Absolutely ridiculous statement but if thats how you feel oh well. In terms of music and the guitar both Jimi and EVH were the major innovators of their day. Both changed not just rock guitar but guitar in general. Not just metal or rock . I am not dogging Randy but he never got close in stature to Jimmi or EVH.. You sound like a super fan of the guy and that's awesome. Crazy Train isn't pop rock?But I'm not going down the never ending road of metal, the fore runners to metal , thrash, death , doom, power, progressive....etc . You are stuck in one of those niche areas and thats cool. You love music. I'm speaking in general.

@@josephperreault997 correct compare his playing to Rhoads and Van halen, sloppier

Yeah Don Arden ...basically a London gangster.

@@Siloguy Jewish gangster actually