EXPOSED: The Tragic Life of Michael Jackson's SECRET Sister!! | the detail.
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Күн бұрынJoh'Vonnie Jackson is the secret sister of the Jackson family. A product of a longstanding affair, the illegitimate child was hidden in plain sight away from the rest of the Jackson dynasty and the prying press. Joh'Vonnie always knew of her uber famous half-siblings and longed to finally be united with her wider family.
Although many cruelly shunned their sibling, or simple made little attempt to make her feel welcomed despite her numerous attempts to connect. This is the tragic story of Jackson wayward forgotten sister, Joh'Vonnie Jackson.
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00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Joseph's Infidelity
02:00 - A Double Life
05:29 - Out In The Open
06:45 - Finding Acceptance
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10:03 - Michael's Rejection
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17:04 - Daddy Passes
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@ByShaneez Ай бұрын
It's really not difficult to understand why the Jacksons would feel a way about Joh'Vonnie. She had the father they always wanted. Anyone expecting them to embrace her like the sister they never had is being unrealistic. Joseph created a deeply uncomfortable situation. If you read Latoya's book, she talks about how he had no regard for how any of his older children would feel when he learned his mistress was pregnant. He basically told them they had a baby sister on the way (not Katherine's though!) like it was the most natural thing in the world. He didn't care about Katherine or his kids' feelings. It's understandable why they would resent him and anyone attached to the situation. Can you imagine knowing your abusive father is cheating on your sweet mother for YEARS and having to act like everything was fine. THEN he eventually starts a secret family and gives that child all the love and care he couldn't find for you? They couldn't even call him "Dad", couldn't get a hug, or an "I love you" but the new baby did? I don't blame them for feeling loyalty to Katherine or for feeling uncomfortable with Joh'vonnie for the rest of their lives. I think they did the best they could with what they were comfortable with by inviting her to functions later on. But did you notice that only Katherine and Rebbie were close to her? Likely due to their religious beliefs more than anything. No, Joh'vonnie didn't deserve to be hurt but she has to understand the dad she knew was not the father they did. The whole situation is sad
@ByShaneez Ай бұрын
It's weird to me that she keeps insinuating that she could've had a huge impact on Michael's life if she had only been a part of it. I don't buy that for a second. The people he was closest to all his life couldn't save him. I don't believe she would've had the kind of impact she thinks she would have. Also how odd is it that she seems to have the most issues with Janet and Michael (the most famous Jacksons). Could be because she had a largely parasocial relationship with them before meeting them and they didn't meet her expectations, but it's hard not to feel she wanted some proximity to fame
@xavierwashington5408 Ай бұрын
@ByShaneez yea that part of was weird, like girl no😂, but what you said was well said, they were all victims of Joe Jackson
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
Joh'vonnie had only part of Joe and her Mom...she got nothing to do with the "real" Jacksons ... Sorry girl...got to understand, you are only a sidepice and that will never change...thanks to your selfish "Dad"
@birdsandbutterflies-uu5wf Ай бұрын
Very, very well said, through and through. Thank you for speaking up ❤️🙏🏼🌻
@TheAngelskye66 Ай бұрын
True, the Dad Johvonnie knew and grew up with was not the father the Jackson siblings knew and grew up with. Although she never asked to be born,she reaped all the benefits from Joe and that famous Jackson name.Sounds as if she thought her siblings would just embrace her automatically and became sour when it didn't happen.Her siblings being cordial to her is maybe all they could do.The Jackson siblings were loyal to their mother and hurt by Joe's betrayal and his defiance.That left a deep wound with them.I remember an interview where Janet choked up after describing an memory of her asking her father if she could call him Dad,with his immediate reply to Janet was- No,I'm Joe to you. Indeed it is a sad situation for all sides, but her talking badly about her famous siblings will not help her.
@AA-qb7ni Ай бұрын
The Jackson family have been through a lot. Especially Michael. May he rest in peace ❤
@nzaunty_2am523 Ай бұрын
When she referred to Joe as daddy…knowing the Jackson’s kids were never allowed to call him that…tells me all I need to know…I’d be pissed too
@lunayastros1356 Ай бұрын
Tenía 15 años, y era 1990 Quizás ella no sabía eso
@waynejeffery6995 Ай бұрын
She was 15. She called him Daddy all her life, how was she supposed to know
@yvonneasante3331 Ай бұрын
Same
@SaintMTi Ай бұрын
All it tells is JOE was a horrible father. It says nothing about her
@HypnoticHollywood Ай бұрын
@@waynejeffery6995 She was supposed to know if Joe told her not to ever call him daddy like he told his Jackson kids.
@melishathomas6313 Ай бұрын
The fact she said Michael ran with the abusive narrative is utterly disgusting.
@LJWash Ай бұрын
right, she wasnt even around for anything
@oliviernga6080 Ай бұрын
Yes, for instance, Joe allowed her to call him "Dad" or "Daddy", whereas he forbade his legitimate kids to call him this way
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
@@LJWashBecause they didn’t want her around
@TheAngelskye66 Ай бұрын
@@oliviernga6080 That Part!!!!
@aalavbrisbeatz Ай бұрын
I absolutely agree. She wasn’t there when Micheal and his siblings were getting beaten by Joe. She really needs to shut her mouth.
@trinathompson8587 Ай бұрын
As a grown woman she should understand that she is a permanent reminder of Joe's betrayal of their mother. They had to watch Katherine suffer(and be alone) while Joe was juggling two women,and probably spending a great deal of his time with Joh'Vonnie and her mother. A situation like that would create hurt feelings across the board,and an awkwardness in their interactions with their father's " love child."
@ontoyoualways9183 Ай бұрын
Vice versa. The Jackson children should understand that it is not her fault Joe had an affair. They should consider the hurt she feels. The Jackson family needs to get on with their lives and get over it.
@trinathompson8587 Ай бұрын
@@ontoyoualways9183 They do have their own lives! She is the one who needs to realize that the ones who want a relationship with her ( like Rebbie) will reach out to her,and the ones who don't,won't.Beyonce and Solange also chose not to have a relationship with the boy their father had when he was married to Tina,and they have the right to make that choice.
@atlanticgardens Ай бұрын
If Kathrine could get past it and accept the kids should too, it wasn't her fault it was the parents, she didn't ask to be here !
@trinathompson8587 Ай бұрын
@@atlanticgardens All of this is Joe and her mother's doing! Seriously, the whole world could see that because of Joe their family dynamics were already damaged to the point of most of them getting married as soon as they turned 18 just to escape from him! They can do whatever makes them comfortable.Women who have kids by married men should know that the kid will always be a permanent reminder that he cheated on his wife. She didn't care that Joe had a wife and kids,and they don't owe her and her child anything, that's strictly Joe's responsibility!
@vitareed5375 Ай бұрын
@@atlanticgardensThey aren't required to embrace an affair remnant.
@izasol8756 Ай бұрын
Joseph did much harm to his family. There should be no blame or judgment on the Jackson siblings' behavior in this case. They certainly never accepted their father's affairs, remembering how they were treated by him. Joh'Vonnie found herself in this situation through no fault of her own, but she shouldn't have imposed herself and demanded an outburst of brotherly love. Joe put all his children in a dire situation. Very sad.
@SeanSearcy 14 күн бұрын
???: Joseph did what!? Harm to his family? That has to be the most dangerously horrible thing I ever heard!
@VedyanichevaMarina Ай бұрын
I believe that Michael was very upset that all of his father's love went to this girl.
@tykelwilliams6053 Ай бұрын
He was upset because in those Glenda tapes he mentions her
@NyemaCunningham Ай бұрын
I believe the same because mj as a little kid just wanted a dad in my opinion not a manager
@tonicody4712 Ай бұрын
I Believe Michael felt Jovonnie is A Painfully Reminder Of What Crocked Joseph did to their "Loving Mother"
@tykelwilliams6053 Ай бұрын
@@tonicody4712 and she was born the day after his 16 birthday
@VedyanichevaMarina Ай бұрын
@@tonicody4712 Certainly . There are other reasons that we learned about in this video.
@ladylucile15 Ай бұрын
She wasn’t a secret.. they knew but it wasn’t their obligation to accept her
@Sass2000Cass 11 күн бұрын
That’s true but they should allow her to be a part of the family if they haven’t already. Two wrongs don’t make a right. If they don’t accept her God will. Psalm 27:10
@mehkifant6425 11 күн бұрын
They're not now since she doing all this talking. Saying hiw Michael lied about the abuse. She wasn't there so who is she to say what happened at the house and like they said they dont have to if they want to and im saying this as someone who is an outside child.@Sass2000Cass
@Chavis_Jones Ай бұрын
The other Jacksons don't owe her anything. End of story.
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
They didn’t have to treat her like crap. It’s not her fault that their father and her mother had an affair. I know it’s not theirs either but she didn’t treat them like it was.
@TheAngelskye66 Ай бұрын
I agree!!...the audacity!!!
@mrm64 Ай бұрын
@@LifeIsNotorious Exactly.
@BloodNote Ай бұрын
@@LifeIsNotorious Exactly. They didn't have to treat her like crap. She didn't ask to be here. She was the innocent one being she was just a child.
@Sonnybindass Ай бұрын
Michael always spoke the truth about his father, Period
@brierrose411 Ай бұрын
She’s expecting too much. Be mad at your mother not the children of the legitimate wife.
@mishsouth2355 Ай бұрын
It's interesting she was able to give an opinion about his personality as a kid. Like she was there. 😮 she's just upset that she's being rejected by him.
@AnnikaHock Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. It's funny how she seems to know him better than the rest of his family by only seeing him once. She behaved really childish and is not able to reflect what the actual problem was.
@GgWifi-ot2sh 11 күн бұрын
what's sad is that Joe painted that narrative to her knowing the bubble she was in... she saw a totally different side of him. which I'm sure she couldn't fathom him being "that bad" . but if a grown ass man tells you his son tried to provoke him? and test his position as the "leader of the family" . that should let you know your dad is SCOFFED lol and has some major character problems . he most likely became jealous of Michael tBH
@AnnikaHock 5 күн бұрын
@@GgWifi-ot2sh probably, yes. I'm just sorry for michael. He suffered for his father's insecurities.
@mechajay3358 Ай бұрын
The siblings especially Michael were under no obligation to her, I know its not her fault, but she was a product of an affair and was raised completely separately from them for years so she shouldn't automatically expect all of them to form a relationship with her. And then for her to claim that Michael was "making up stories about their father to gain sympathy" only adds to her ignorance. It comes down to the fact that Joseph didn't raise her with extremely strict discipline like he did the rest of her siblings. Explains why they feel resentment. Also its pretty petty on her part to feel jealous that Michael gave more attention to her daughter than he did her. And that's not even going into her ego that "she could've saved Michael" if she was in his life more. She just comes off very entitled. No wonder she wasn't invited to his memorial.
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@TheAngelskye66 Ай бұрын
My sentiments,she comes off as spoiled and arrogant.She has no idea what her sibling went through with their father,she experienced a softer side of Joe Jackson and not his wrath because you missed a dance step on stage.I agree with you,they have no obligation to her.
@ritarisser3116 Ай бұрын
Leave joe jackson alone dam.. Rest in peace brother joe. Nobody is perfect. Dam
@ritarisser3116 Ай бұрын
Janet you were wrong.. Dead wrong.. When God gets ready for you girlfriend.. Repent while you can. God don't give a dam about how famous and rich and rich you are. When he is ready for you . its a rap. Time to go. Just ask michael. The mourning. The pain
@travishylton6976 Ай бұрын
@@ritarisser3116 god is not real get over your self
@t.m.i.1245 Ай бұрын
It wasn't up to the Jackson children to make right the wrongs of Joe Jackson. Michael was the main financial institution of that family ever since his childhood, supporting everyone's lifestyle for many year's. Janet grew up and developed a successful career for herself, however Michael was the main supporting factor for everyone else for decade's and until his death. I can totally see why he in particular, would have certain feelings about Joe having and financially supporting a secret family off of his back.
@justsusan4436 Ай бұрын
WOW, SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE HER FATHER!!
@bunnysb2587 Ай бұрын
I don't understand why she is mad the family loved there mother and they were very deeply upset when they found This love child. How do she think the Jackson family is going to accept her. Everytime they see her they there mom is upset and remind them of the affair.
@CarsonDouglas Ай бұрын
Janet going to whoop her tail if she don't chill out about her family. Michael is gone and she got a short fuse. Michael was her babysitter, brother, best friend and father. Her sisters are so much older than her. Michael and Randy are the ones she closest with.
@waynejeffery6995 Ай бұрын
How would u feel. U didn't ask to be here. All u want is a relationship with ur siblings. Katherine eventually let her guard down to the child. Out of all the Jacksons that hurted Katherine the most more than rebbie jackie tito jermaine latoya marlon michael randy and janet. They preach all this love stuff but no love for a sibling, and every time they give u the cold shoulder. She is better than me. The first time I felt unwanted they wouldn't ever see me again
@rowlaanbennett7296 Ай бұрын
True but she has a great relationship with Katherine and also rebbie and always have so I don’t think them disliking her is honoring their mother because according to johvohnnie Katherine Loves her
@waynejeffery6995 Ай бұрын
@@rowlaanbennett7296 Thank you
@Oceanbird971 23 күн бұрын
@@CarsonDouglashow would you feel if your entire family didn't want you around knowing that they hated you and beaten you so much not everything is sunshine and roses you actually have no idea what goes on nowadays you seriously have no clue that these things happen in families and still continue to do these things it's not funny anymore imagine wanting love and affection and compassion to have from your family you actually have no idea what happens in these families nowadays these things happen till this day it's Digusting and vile people tend to blame the other person for a family falling out stuff like that can actually destroy someone and actually cause long term anger and rage and heartbreak and betrayal this can actually make someone who isn't apart of the family get shunned badly it wasn't even funny at all I find it funny how people still do these things nowadays
@MeloGammo89 Ай бұрын
The fact she said she had a hard childhood similar to Michael and the other Jacksons..girl you need to have several seats and shut up.
@user-ez8xy9jk7r Ай бұрын
She didn't have to say she had a hard childhood similar to Michael, She could've just said she had a hard childhood.
@lavetteharden4835 9 күн бұрын
YEAP!! GET IT TOGETHER!!
@Diamond92826 Ай бұрын
I know it's not her fault and i understand her anger but her self-entitlement over the siblings, especially the most famous ones is shocking. Michael Jackson helped made the family successful and famous and he was tortured by Joe Jackson to achieve that. The money Joe Jackson used to raise her were from MJ's blood and sweat (hard work). I don't blame him for getting so angry and didn't want any relationship.
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
Joseph was right he didn’t have a daughter name Anna. He had a daughter name Johvonne.
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Kinda avoiding the question though
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
@@thedetail. yeah he tried to play it slick
@RandyJGJ Ай бұрын
I think they didn’t know the girls name fr and just heard the “onnie” part, which sorta sounds like Anna. I can def see that, given he probably never put effort into connecting her with her family. It’s sick people blaming a child for the action of 20-30 year olds.
@rgordon2691 Ай бұрын
LOL! He was Slick with that response 😂
@clemenceagbre3808 Ай бұрын
😊
@tylergoodman3560 Ай бұрын
Joe was wrong for what he did, but Johvonne did nothing wrong. She was the victim of Joe's affair. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop. ❤🎉
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@LYBism Ай бұрын
And so were the older Jackson kids. It's THEIR mother that was hurt in all of this. To expect them to embrace her is insensitive of THEIR feelings.
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
Joh'vannie is no victim at all. Only the "real" family.
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
@@LYBismThen those Jackson ADULTS including the step-ford wife Katherine should have took it out on Joe and his mistress, and not on Johvonne.
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
@@elisabethgreene2002Like it or not she’s apart of the family too. She may not have been Katherine’s daughter but she was Joe’s daughter which makes her their sister. Half or not she was still their blood sister. Yes she’s a victim for those siblings to take it out on her. What did they say to Joe and his mistress, when they became adults?
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
Say what???? SHE had the hardest childhood..😅😂😂
@CarsonDouglas Ай бұрын
She is so annoying.
@nicolesiol Ай бұрын
like joh’vonnie needs to SIT DOWN, she didnt experience not even a little bit of the pain her half siblings experienced in childhood, especially Michael
@DeneenBarrow Ай бұрын
For real tho. shut up. You make no sense
@thunderwolf-4048 Ай бұрын
I mean if you have a sibling and they don’t want to talk to you it can kinda impact your life cuz they never wanted to know about you.. but I know what you mean, she wasn’t beaten up like Michael and his siblings. But I don’t hate her, I just don’t like her 👍
@eveningglow9023 Ай бұрын
At 1140 that was Janet
@kanna231 Ай бұрын
Johvonne really needs to chill out.
@lashayholmes9488 Ай бұрын
Exactly saying that Michael may have made up being abused is horrific. Who does that.
@CarsonDouglas Ай бұрын
She really does. Because they don't owe her nothing ! Joe was married. She don't grasp the concept of being a love child.😊
@TickingClocks Ай бұрын
@@CarsonDouglasA love child who was the most loved child lol
@mykoniichistorychannel Ай бұрын
She needs to shut up. Chill out be damned.
@felionrobinson698 Ай бұрын
She was NOT A CHILD OF CATHERINE!!
@LD-tk7qf Ай бұрын
She is an outside kid. She always will be the outside kid!!! She is going to have to get over it and move on with her life on her own!!she will never be part of the family
@babym9524 Ай бұрын
Exactly she need to take up her issues with her mother who made a mess of her life because of greed.
@LD-tk7qf Ай бұрын
@@babym9524 I agree 1000%
@tias.6675 Ай бұрын
Agreed ! By the time she came along most of Katherine's kids were grown or close to it. She wasn't there in Gary, she wasn't there when they first moved to LA, and she's not Katherine and Joe's child. Her parents are the only ones who owed her anything.
@vanessarobinson3437 Ай бұрын
@@babym9524her mother is dead
@beautyistifanus8794 Ай бұрын
Painful truth
@sharonjudge2686 Ай бұрын
In my opinion she knows nothing about what they went through never the less sad situation Rest in paradise MJ
@BigBobbyBoLo Ай бұрын
I was rolling with her all the way until the part where she decided to say " we've been bamboozled by his publicity image". So basically a child that wasn't born yet, that wasn't around, has first hand knowledge of what joseph was like to his other family? That's complete lunacy and second hand information from the victimizor himself. I get her hurt, I really do, but this is a super awkward and complicated situation for everyone involved and inserting herself in things she wasn't apart of is cray
@La-wr5dn Ай бұрын
Actually, it's been said by others that Michael was a lot like his Dad Joseph. Even his speaking voice was different than when he was "on." Different people who've worked with him and family members etc... And, despite his complicated relationship with his Dad, he wanted Joseph around when he negotiated deals because he trusted Joseph to catch any shady vibes. Ijs.
@tamekaroyal3220 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@anunheardtruth3071 3 күн бұрын
Whether or not she had firsthand experience or not, I can't say I disagree with her - Michael often played the victim card and exhibited a lot of self-pity. I'm not saying he wasn't mistreated or discriminated or abused in many situations but even many of the siblings don't agree to the same extent of abuse as he did. One could argue Stevie Wonder had a worse childhood dealing with blindness and his parents divorcing. I can't find it now but the "On My Anger" thread at Maximum Jackson was a real eye-opener - rational MJ fans who vented about his arrogance and self-pity getting in the way of his life. From business perspective, he was notorious for being shrewd and often cutting ties or falling out of partnerships abruptly. A lot of it could be attributed to a paranoia and the pressures of his reputation and his fans are quick to blame these people (Quincy Jones, Paul Anka, Prince to name a few) for misusing him when he still shares some of the blame.
@PaulSmith-yd9ow Ай бұрын
I don't blame them for being upset. I can relate.
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
That girl doesn't even know what the heck she's talking about. Life your life and be quiet ..
@amazingvibes4171 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ainosalmi8397 Ай бұрын
It’s crazy that Michael and Johvonnie met as late as 2003 😮 and that Michael was cold towards her, it’s very understandably given what his own relationship with Joseph was like, but Michael always preached about spreading love and treating others equally and not to judge. But again it’s always easier to say than do.
@codychavarria6088 Ай бұрын
We don't really know because we weren't there.Michael, being cold towards her.I'm not really too sure about, Is maybe stand offIsh at most
@johnnieelizabeth9752 Ай бұрын
Remember this is her version of events. Honestly she sounds entitled to Michael's time and energy and I don't know why, he didn't owe her anything. Especially as grown adults. She just sounds bitter, and I don't blame her, but don't blame Michael either.
@ainosalmi8397 Ай бұрын
@@johnnieelizabeth9752 Yeah, why there can’t be time machine were we could just press the button and go back in time to have all the answers 🥹😂 but yeah, i’m not pointing fingers i just wanna look at every angle, because sometimes i get frustrated when fans put Michael on the pedestal and make him this most purest person in the world when really he’s just same as all of us. I just wish that things could’ve been better for him 😢
@texsion Ай бұрын
After what she said at the ending of this video I can definitely see some bias on her end. The whole entire Jackson family was at his house and she wanted some 1 on 1 time with him but didn’t seem to ask for it she just wanted it somehow, makes 0 sense.
@gaynellgibson89 Ай бұрын
And they are Witnesses
@Linda-yh7mh Ай бұрын
Michael is extremely close with his mom so it stands to reason why he felt her pain when finding this out plus she was born one day after his birthday. She was allowed to call him dad but Michael and his brothers and sisters were not. Joe was not affectionate with them but he was with her , that had to of hurt all those years also. So sorry if she doesn't understand that's who should be telling who to kiss whose ass 😢😢❤
@atirad8 8 күн бұрын
We are On the SAME PAGE!!!!!! THE AUDACITY
@dcamaraman939 Ай бұрын
Its good to remember that The Jacksons where just like any other family.. Drama , and resentment
@user-ez8xy9jk7r Ай бұрын
Yeah, I got loads of drama in mine
@mykoniichistorychannel Ай бұрын
I’m sorry, but if my father cheated on my mother and then has the nerve to treat her in a loving manner when it was denied to me, I wouldn’t want to be bothered, either.
@buttercupdabaddieutonium9257 16 сағат бұрын
U take that up with your father then. The child didn’t ask to be here
@JESUSLOVESYOU219 Ай бұрын
She had absolutely no right to “fEEl HuRt” over the kids of the WIFE who was disrespected beyond measure not wanting anything to do with her! After growing up she should’ve understood and confronted her mother and father! She had an attitude about her that wasn’t nice at all. “I refuse to be ashamed…” all that. She was also disrespectful saying “Michael made up stories about what he went through with his father,” “I went through just as blue of a childhood.” Really?? That just showed she never acknowledged THEIR pain. That probably didn’t make it any easier for her. She could never even begin to grasp the pain that Michael had from his dad. And I wonder if the only reason she cared so much was because they were famous. That seemed to be the reason for the obsession it seemed.
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
It’s a sad all around. Johvonne didn’t ask to be born in that situation. This is why you should never ever have affairs.
@LYBism Ай бұрын
Right, and Katherine's children didn't ask to be born in that situation, ether. . .
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
@@LYBism No one asked to be born in anything. You still don’t take it out on someone who didn’t cause the situation. 🙄
@LifeIsNotorious Ай бұрын
@@LYBism No one asked to be born in anything. You still don’t take it out on the person who had nothing to do with the situation.
@AnimatedBlast Ай бұрын
Many people have affairs. Doesn’t mean they have love children.
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
Oh boy...she's all about me, me, me...
@TheAngelskye66 Ай бұрын
You've noticed that as well.
@WaitingForTheHook Ай бұрын
Her comments about how she could have have influence over Michael and tell him what and what not to do, is a little strange tbh.
@mechajay3358 Ай бұрын
She comes off very entitled and egotistical. No wonder some didn't want to form a relationship with her.
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@Dog.01 Ай бұрын
@@mechajay3358she is Joseph’s daughter after all.
@butterwhip7412 Ай бұрын
@@Dog.01 A chip off the old block.
@taneshawalker 11 күн бұрын
She wouldn’t of influenced anything in Michael’s life..😂 she would have lapped up whatever crumbs of affection he gave her. With her delusional self.😂
@nvm9040 Ай бұрын
She got the father she always wanted and the loving and caring sign of Joe while Michael and his siblings didn't get that because they were abused and worked to death bc they were the jackson 5 or the Jacksons. Janet and Michael didn't really know their half sibling so they were cold and distant while the other siblings tried to be friendly but something always stopped them from going forward. Joh'Vonnie saying that Michael said that the abuse was fake is so not okay bc she only got one half while MJ was getting abused by the other half
@rickiehoxton Ай бұрын
Great to hear your voice narrating this, Matt!! Good job as always
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@JustCherylLynn Ай бұрын
She needs to get a life her dad created this mess. Its a shame that she speaks ill of her brother Michael Jackson now that he's dead trying to reap fame and glory off of his name. Michael told his truth about how his father treated him and his siblings and now you going against how they were treated by man they called Joe and wasn't able to call him Daddy come on get a life.
@n19800101 Ай бұрын
17:29 I didn't want to be famous... I wrote that in my book too... 🤣
@AprilHarmony9 Ай бұрын
My parents loved the Jackson 5 and I remember my mother talking about a rumor of another child. I think it was mentioned in the Jackson 5 Movie💯
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Yeah I think it was
@iikkumii Ай бұрын
I genuinely understand her frustrations and pain, but in Michael's case, it was said he could be standoffish and distant with the siblings he actually DID have a relationship with sometimes, so what I don't understand is why she thought it would be so easy for her to connect with Michael in that way. 😂
@CarsonDouglas Ай бұрын
Right 🤣 Hell Kathrine caint even get him on the line sometimes 💀
@waynejeffery6995 Ай бұрын
They virgo babies
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
Omg...I just can't believe this woman...
@mykoniichistorychannel Ай бұрын
This victim mentality and entitlement, I can’t.
@JordynScarbrough Ай бұрын
Joe was wrong !😮
@rehanapathan7572 Ай бұрын
He never loved his 9 kids as a father then why he had another kid?even his half sister wanted his hugs and kisses.
@anony---mous Ай бұрын
Who would be buddy buddy with the child made by your dad's affair, which hurt their mom Johvonne needs to chill
@OneGloveEnt Ай бұрын
Mature adults who can separate the wrongful deeds of other adults and children who have no blame in the situation? It's okay to love The Jacksons and still condemn their behavior here. They're not perfect
@melishathomas6313 Ай бұрын
@@OneGloveEnt easier said than done
@xavierwashington5408 Ай бұрын
But that’s not her fault😭, resent the CHEATING FATHER, not the child that was not asked to be born into a mess
@likedvidsz Ай бұрын
bro taking anger out on a child who didn't choose to be born into such circumstances is undeniably cruel and weird.
@anony---mous Ай бұрын
Is treating her bad fair? No. But I'm saying YOU would be weary around her because of her inception. Or would u be fine with the situation and be besties with her just like dat
@introspectivetonysoprano Ай бұрын
She shot herself in the foot when she claimed to have known that Michael instigated shit with joe when he was a kid. She never knew Michael. She met him when they were both already adults. She literally couldn't have known that.
@kernentiohn5577 Ай бұрын
She literally said she had a hard childhood like michael and the other jacksons😂
@marksargent2440 Ай бұрын
The sad bit about this is if joe Jackson wasn't a player she wouldn't have been born .look being in a famous family isn't all fun and games look what happened to Michael
@monicakarungari2284 Ай бұрын
Joe Jackson is the root of all this mess. he passed away but is still causing problems. its unacceptable that Joh'vonnie invalidates the abuse that her siblings went through just because she was favoured by Joe
@lencijescobar Ай бұрын
Pretty interesting to learn about the Jackson’s family and that sad 😔
@brownin329 Ай бұрын
Please understand, Michael and his siblings could call Joseph "daddy," just not in public. Joseph explained that he wanted his children to be able to handle dealing with management whenever they decided to move on to different management. Also, Joh'vonnie needs to get a grip. She has no right to confront anyone. The kids do not owe her anything.
@mykoniichistorychannel Ай бұрын
That’s not the way Michael and Janet told it, and Latoya having to wait until 50s to call him dad says otherwise. As far as the Joh’vonnie girl, she reads as entitled opportunist.
@queenlj12jax97 Ай бұрын
While I have tremendous sympathy for Joh'Vonnie Jackson, her father not only betrayed his wife, but his children as well. I can understand their unwillingness to accept her and would probably feel the same as them if I were in that situation.
@AnnikaHock Ай бұрын
After viewing this video, i absolutely understand why the jacksons didnt want anything to do with her
@brendamckenzie5826 Ай бұрын
It's not heartless it's keeping your peace
@GenevieveWaller-pk3xg Ай бұрын
Michael was very close to his mother, he would never accept something that hurt Katherine. Brandon is Joe's son and Joe has a daughter called Abigail. ( hidden children)
@johnlucas1543 Ай бұрын
Ohhhh, he's bringing up Joh'Vonnie. Oh man. I didn't think we would be going here after the breakdowns of Janet, LaToya, & Jermaine but here we are. It's Joe's fault how this tension got started in the family. Especially as Joh'Vonnie got to call Joe "Daddy". It seems like Joe's used emotional distance to create professional success in his children. The one he allowed to call him "Daddy" ended up living a regular life out of showbiz. Luckily eldest sister Rebbie didn't hold it against the girl & even Katherine took her in when she definitely didn't have to. At least she got to go to Neverland. It's a damn shame how things happened.
@regghenny Ай бұрын
This is a heartbreaking story all around. No amount of fame and fortune can inoculate anyone from the pain that family can bring. I feel terrible for mother Katherine and all of Joseph's children.
@yalawnethomas9010 Ай бұрын
My thing about her is how dare she assume that any of them is supposed to care that her mother that for 25 yrs. destroyed their family along with their father, died. That's not their concern. They already didn't want to accept her. Now your mom pass and they supposed to say poor baby. We're here for you😅 Who was there for them? I've heard about her years ago and was disgusted by her actions and trying to force her self on the siblings. She reaped way more than she should have. Through THEIR hardwork, sweat and beatings she definitely benefit. She need to carry on and leave them alone. They owe her NOTHING!!!
@debrah4241 Ай бұрын
You can't blame Michael and Janet, working so Joe could get his share. That share going to support another family, not to mention the disrespect to Catherine, who they loved dearly.
@michaeljosefjackson Ай бұрын
Amazing in-depth video! Never heard about that. Thanks for your great work!
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@liamclendon3270 Ай бұрын
This situation all around is sad. As Joh'Vonnie got older. she should have understood that her siblings'problem with her was not personal, Her approach was a bit naive from the start. She has to remember that all along Michael and his brothers knew Joe would go off and have his affairs while they were on tour. Joh'Vonnie could have easily tried to mend those relationships between her siblings and Joseph. I think they would had appreciated her for that and saw that she actually cared about sharing the same type of relationship with Joe, but instead she flaunted around how well she was treated and was even able to call him "Daddy"; knowing that her other siblings never had that bond with him. Besides her mother isn't any better, why put your child through this and not try to make things right? It's just sad.
@cameliab6946 Ай бұрын
I understand that she was upset of how she was treated by her family that she never got to know better. I also understand that it wasnt easy for the Jackson's kids with how Joe treated them while johvonnie got a better treatment. They should have gave her a chance and understand that it wasnt her fault and she never asked for this and so did they. But I dont think we should question the way Michael talked anout his abusive childhood: I will never believe he did this for attention, I genuinely believe he was in pain and that traumatized him forever...so just because johnvonnie got love from Joe doesnt mean it was the same for her other siblings...He treated his other kids like cashcows
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
The Jacksons are not her family
@cameliab6946 Ай бұрын
@@elisabethgreene2002Well technically they are since she is their stepsister...they are all related to joe just a different mother
@travishylton6976 Ай бұрын
@@cameliab6946 blood only makes you a related love makes you family
@cameliab6946 Ай бұрын
@@travishylton6976 Yeah but its kind of sad..like she just wanted to get along with them but it was hard for them too since they were betrayed by joe
@mykoniichistorychannel Ай бұрын
@@cameliab6946They’re related, but they’re not family.
@clementmajamanda4130 Ай бұрын
Thank you “the detail” for being objective. As a former fan of MJ the man and a current fan of MJ the artist…i appreciate ability to both give reverence to his artistic accomplishment while reminding us he was an extremely flawed human being….knowing what I know now…it would be cringe if you guys were to just present him as an angel who was to good for this world.
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Thank you, very much appreciate it!
@krystalbluali2534 Ай бұрын
I’m not mad at the Jacksons for going on about their lives how they gonna praise a sister that was created by their father cheating on their mother and abusing them
@ll-22da Ай бұрын
I mean i get where she comes from wanting a relationship with her siblings but i also get why the sibling were distant towards her she was a half sibling from an affair. And i can imangine how hard it is to bond within this Situation. But her talking about she went thought the same things as her brother but then complain that he is trying to vitcimized himself is crazy . But also she was in the love one another music video from Tito .
@distortionpedal Ай бұрын
It’s not her fault she was born … she didn’t have a choice . But I can understand the other brothers and sisters feeling the way they felt. People and emotions are difficult . Family dynamics are difficult . Everyone needs therapy . .. I mean everyone in the world not just the Jackson’s .
@silviajackito Ай бұрын
Just children who haven't been loved by their fathers and worse those fathers cared about other kids but not them, can understand Michael's behaviour with this girl. It was too painful for Him and his brothers and sisters. It is very sad that Joh'vonnie never knew Michael and it is not necessary to know him in person to know that He is a Lovely man, Humble and Honest. His suffering caused by a not loving father all his life marked Him deeply. Sorry, but I don't like her and I don't like this video.
@TheAngelskye66 Ай бұрын
I agree with you,thank you!!
@hauntedireland9237 Ай бұрын
This is a cheap hit piece. It harkens back to the salacious red tops of the 90s. Next thing you know he’ll be calling MJ “Jack-o”. It’s really bottom of the barrel fodder.
@MaryBerry-cn9rd Ай бұрын
She HAS NO POSITION in the JACKSON Family. She may be A Jackson; but she is NOT one of THE Jacksons!
@user-sl9vf1cl8o Ай бұрын
I love "the detail".👏🤝❤️🔥
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@user-sl9vf1cl8o Ай бұрын
@@thedetail. 🙏
@CarsonDouglas Ай бұрын
Michael gave her a shoulder colder than Winnipeg in December 🥶 They was never going to accept her, because Kathrine doesn't. As they shouldn't. Joe was a colorist. He treated her better because she is lighter skinned.
@1NewAgeGoddess Ай бұрын
🤭
@GoTTaHeartNY Ай бұрын
GirL ❤ you couldn’t wait to tell your story.
@RositaBramao-West-qc7cz Ай бұрын
She an her mother,needs to apologize to Kathleen an family, her mother knew what she did😮
@ahappilydrunkpuppy8961 Ай бұрын
Joe had the affair, why would they apologize?
@gladiatorslanger Ай бұрын
@@ahappilydrunkpuppy8961at the end of the day it takes two to cheat and she knew Joe was a married man she could've turned her damn back it makes me sick how ppl act as if the woman isn't in the wrong whenever any woman cheats with a married me yea she owes the wife an apology she owes herself an apology as well and some type of respect as well. She knew what she was doing that's why she was having an affair with his ssa I don't understand how women lay down with another woman's husband ppl are so degrading he laying up with his wife and then he goes to the side piece laying with her just nasty
@waynejeffery6995 Ай бұрын
So a child was supposed to apologize to Katherine that her husband and momma had me. What was she supposed to say, sorry Katherine for me being born
@asdfghjkl3003 Ай бұрын
Johvonnie should not have to apologize for a damn thing. Children can't help who there parents are. Keep that energy for her MOTHER.
@journeydodge5812 Ай бұрын
Michael is a Virgo just like me. We have a side of us that I pray to hold Back because I do not like being mean.
@TheSharton71 Ай бұрын
She called her dad Dad. Something what the other kids called him Joseph. Papa Jackson did what he could with what he had. He left the family and clan well behind. So props to him R.I.P.
@mariadorosarioleal8244 Ай бұрын
Loved this episode *the detail".Thank you 👍
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mjlover6295 Ай бұрын
Just love for Micheal ❤❤❤❤
@daradiant1 Ай бұрын
Update: Katherine, Rebbie, Tito, & Jackie all have reached out to Joh'vonnie. At one point, Janet did too. I don't know about Jermaine and Randy, but Latoya, no. In fact, she was in the group photo that was shown in the beginning, they have invited her over to dinner, conversate after Joe's funeral, she was in Tito's video. She has moved to Georgia and living a good life. They still in communication with her.
@intothelight3100 Ай бұрын
Michael has another younger sister called 'Latania Rebellion. She was sent to London and raised by distant relatives . Connected to Joe Jackson. ''Allegedly''
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Oh really? I haven’t heard of this one
@SuperStarlight4 Ай бұрын
@@thedetail.You love gossips don't you? I can see ur future in tabloids.
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@hauntedireland9237 Ай бұрын
@@SuperStarlight4he’s a bitchy little tattle for sure.
@jacquelinebourque8041 Ай бұрын
JohVonnie was expecting that the JACKSONS would introduce her to the crowds as the "JACKSON NEWBIE" 😅 Not a chance. Sorry but, that's not how it works. Dang old Joe Jackson. Lost soul.
@JL-vv4ut Ай бұрын
all around unfortunate...heartbreaking...💜
@DeneenBarrow Ай бұрын
Now what you’re not gonna do is talk bad about Michael🤬🤬
@xmagic00 Ай бұрын
I think Michael just didn't want to communicate much closer, just because she's not his type of personality to communicate. It doesn't depend on whether she's a half-sister or not, and it doesn't depend on Joseph. Only by type of personality, character half-sister, Michael did not want to communicate much and often.
@dunamisespada7289 Ай бұрын
If Michael Jackson knew about he would never ever treat her like that turn away from her Michael doesn’t have that kinda of heart ♥️
@user-mq6zn9pc8o Ай бұрын
Sad Touching 🙏
@dancingwheels8494 Ай бұрын
A few fun facts you left out: I thought you were going to include the audio of Michael talking about JohVonnie and why he never understood Joseph showing that kind of attention to her in the audio of one of his secret phone call recordings. Also, I saw only ONE interview where Michael was talking about how much he loved big families and that his father had 10 children (instead of the Jackson narrative of nine children that prevails in the media). also A few details about JohVonnie and her interactions with h er siblings were left out and definitely go into more detail In her book, she talks about the fact that she actually did seem well received from Janet in the very beginning, especially when Joseph took her as a child to see some thing that Janet was in as a teenager. Some kind of play or some thing that JohVonnie got to attend, and Janet apparently saw her and smiled. And in 2011, there is a picture of Janet and JohVonnie together smiling at the backstage of Janets Number Ones tour. And also in the book, JohVonnie i is honest about the fact that she doesn’t just blame everything on Janet. She admits that her personality flaws may have contributed to their friction as well. and unlike Latoya, whom she has some very very harsh words for in the book, JohVonnie also gives Janet a lot of props for the things she’s done in the industry. And even more recently, her daughter Yasmin who was being interviewed talking about when she finally met her aunt Janet at the hospice facility for Joseph. They had a very brief but nice conversation, which left Yasmin saying that she thought Janet was cool. “Definitely not the aunt that takes any shit,“ but cool nonetheless. By the way, Yasmin apparently has a very very good singing voice!
@aariskhan6761 Ай бұрын
This Joe guy is a menace, most of his children hated him
@theinsightfulvisionary0197 Ай бұрын
Yes, he was a horrible person!!!
@princessmichaeljackson Ай бұрын
exactly
@alexisewing53 Ай бұрын
It’s rumored that her mother initially wanted Jackie but was turned away & settled for joe instead (the day they met he asked her what her favorite candy bar was & so he sent her an arrangement of her favorite candy bar to her job the next day).
@RositaCooper Ай бұрын
Yet, she chose to criticize Micheal knowing how he was treated. Why, because she didn't get the attention she wanted from Michael? Yeap.... sad.
@Diamond92826 Ай бұрын
That part turned me off. A situation she was never part of or around for. That same Michael Jackson is the reason why her father was able to provide a comfortable lifestyle for her and her mother.
@user-nu6nj3un1i Ай бұрын
This is so unfair to the child.
@AppleHead__ Ай бұрын
Joh'Vonnie didnt deserve that, poor her, she felt more like a stranger and a fan
@mykoniichistorychannel Ай бұрын
Because she was a stranger.
@Mac_WORLD_MEGA Ай бұрын
Then she goes to release a book, and gets the spotlight or the "15 Minutes of Fame"..... In my opinion she is pathetic. Jermaine, Marlon, Tito etc. DON'T WON ANY OBLIGATION TO THAT WOMEN. Their father never cared about their mother, so why should they care about hers! I don't mean to be cut throat, but it's upsetting
@elisabethgreene2002 Ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@asdfghjkl3003 Ай бұрын
She has every right to tell her story. If latoya can do it then so can she.
@SeanWarren Ай бұрын
WOW!!!!
@telikaandfam Ай бұрын
I noticed her father didn't encourage her to get plastic surgery like the rest of his kids either.
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
I don’t think Joseph encouraged any of them to get plastic surgery
@telikaandfam Ай бұрын
@@thedetail. oh i thought he called them big noses
@keithdockeryii8121 Ай бұрын
@telikaandfam He only teased Michael about his nose.
@codychavarria6088 Ай бұрын
@@telikaandfamThat's teasing and being mean not encouraging
@telikaandfam Ай бұрын
@@codychavarria6088 I'm sure it had a lot to do with it though
@dianemccray718 Ай бұрын
IT IS SO CLEAR YOU GUYS PASTED THESE PICTURES TOGETHER!!
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
What pictures?
@ll-22da Ай бұрын
He never said he didnt do it
@ruff1draft Ай бұрын
Actually recently in his music video Tito Jackson has her appear in it alongside his mother and the other Jackson siblings.
@lorafox1234 Ай бұрын
Wow I never new this 😮
@crystalsherman8896 14 күн бұрын
I feel bad for kids that were created and born out of affairs. It's not their fault the parents sinned and created chaos. You are loved by God, Jesus and those who care and love you.
@Sass2000Cass 12 күн бұрын
God can and will use these children for amazing things
@stonethugmusic Ай бұрын
Nice Reporting 🎉
@thedetail. Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Itsmy2cent Ай бұрын
We knew bout her for years
@SuperDave30 Ай бұрын
Jackson Family Values.
@CarsonDouglas Ай бұрын
Mother Superior deemed her a love child. It was a wrap after that. I bet Marlon never said anything at all to her. He is a momma's boy. Probably because he has a twin he lost at birth.
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