Is it possible for gamers in the world to take over the game industry in the world i mean we cannot fix those things and I'm just talking nonsense but what can we do besides not play any of them in general?

XDEFIANT FTW XDEFIANT DOESNT RIG YOUR EXP IN ANY WAY yeah store is expensive(but SELF CONTROL also exists)

YET.

Nobody is forcing you to buy any cosmetic. Just stop the whining and the fake outrage. There are too many Grifters invading the gaming space, who are also political operatives masquerading as gamers. I can easily see through the BS smoke.

COUGH COUGH PUBG COUGH COUGH

the butterfly effect but for gaming...

@@tark1873great way of putting it bro

Todd has a lot to answer for.

Honestly the 2 dollar horse armor isn't bad at all, but all this manipulation and psychological tactics designed to siphon children's and stupid people's wallets is just disgusting.

@@iratepirate3896he just presented it. He was told by his boss to monetise it. We can blame the dev but that won’t do anything. Executive are the ones behind it just like the video said. Corporate want to maximise profits and it always been true just like the video game crash due to Atari flooding the markets with saturations of actual efforts barely functioning games. That guy has enough death threats sent to him and yet he still wants to make games which gets my respect.

Sadly the majority that don't watch these videos or in fact any kind of videos or articles spreading awareness about this issue will buy into this crap.

It’s here to stay for good

I mean the largest problem is Activision/Blizzard fans. Get them to stop and maybe there’ll be some hope

R6S is proof to me that this isn't possible. People buy into it. I swear I never thought so many people could accept mediocrity and "enjoy" it.

Starting with you dont play anylive service games, ill continue tho cause they fun

I'm not an expert, I'm not a therapist, psychiatrist, etc. I'm just an average person, but even *I* can see that this model fails even when it brings results. They would make *so* much more money if they stopped being greedy and it's sad because they refuse to see it.

As long as the execs can cash out tens of millions a year, they don't give a shit about the industry. Anti-Trust laws should be covering Execs and CEOs terrible business decisions

@@agentmaryland1239depends on the games. Cod, Fortnite, aren’t changing nothing.

This is probably why Japanese game studios have largely side stepped this issue. Japanese businesses are known for thinking long term, at least compared to most American companies. Toyota is a good example. For the most part, they just make reliable cars and don't blindly jump at every trend like Western car companies do lately. Western car companies brag too much about "look how innovative we are" when they're "innovating" a bunch of "features" no one asked for.

Doesn't help that a CEO gets paid on short term results. Hit a stock price they get a bonus, hit a margin level they get a bonus, cut costs by an amount they get a bonus. There is a reason corporations make terrible decisions. The leadership doesn't own the business they're employees with nothing at stake if things go south.

it really is a kick in the head

@@Lizard_X999 Yippee yaaaay

@@PrimeTime1999 there were no wedding bells today

Has everyone just played New Vegas for the first time? 😂 Seeing this meme everywhere now lol.

@@LG1ikLx nah I played it years ago

Same. I can't stand modern Halo multiplayer, and I don't even play games like Fortnite, CoD, or Overwatch. They just don't appeal to me, and I'm solidly inside the gullible target audience age range. I want games that are FUN, not 'sweaty,' or 'next-gen.' Also: Respect. Oblivion is the underrated champion of Elder Scrolls.

You're one of those W "old men" Most all of my coworkers dismiss gaming like "the thing nerds do alone in basement". But when the one older coworker guy Mark and I get talking on video games we have to stop ourselves lol. That just goes to show the social aspect of older games transcends the actual gaming and makes/keeps friendships going! Perhaps the "social fabric" people keep talking about could be strengthened by these means but I'm getting too political now

Couldn't agree more. There's plenty more money to be made if they just focused on paying people to make quality games instead of trying to turn every experience into a casino. It's completely destroyed any creativity/innovation. Games can't survive as a form of entertainment if they're all just cash grabs with different skins, locations, plots, etc. That's what slot machines do.

I'm 27 and I grew up playing those games. I can't stand the new live service games. I find myself playing games less and less these days.

They’re awful but I’m still addicted

Because Todd was right. Look at Star Citizen... So many years of development and some plebs have paid ships that cost more than $10,000. The game isn't even remotely close to being finished lmao. And the fact MW3 sold at ALL says it all.

Shrinkflation

​@@Soliye.nah, starcitizen happily bleeds the whales, but it hangs on because of the scope and transparency of its development. If it didn't have that it wouldnt hook nearly as many whales.

We have to boycott live service games

It's all corporate greed and kids with no self control.

Start team doubles. Always get the shittiest team mates but you can still win it

That's when I use all the challenge swaps I have accumulated. Same boat here.

I just stopped playing entirely; halo lost its fun for me.

Firefight is your friend here, if you have the time to spend 15 minutes per game.

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Yup, you'll have just an absurd losing streak, still be placing at or near the top of the scoreboard, and your teammates will have nothing Then the next match is a landslide in your favor, then it's back to losing

@@deadeyeduncan3865 And it's so bad because you can perform at your best, but you look at the scoreboard like in Overwatch and your DPS are negative but blaming heals, while Supports are both rocking 9k healing after only 5 minutes in, and Tanks are just throwing a tantrum because the enemy team is coordinated because they spend MONEY, so the odds are stacked in their favor.

This is why I firmly believe "gaming is so sweaty now" is not just people crying cuz they suck. SBMM is very common now and will make your games sweatier. That's kind of what it's meant to do. This might also be why battle royales became so popular. When you play against 100 players, the SBMM can't be that intense.

@@urphakeandgey6308 It might be worse in BR. You only get one life and you have 5 teams full sending and destroying the lobby

The worst abuser is For Honor. I swear to God that I get 2-3 good/bad games right in a row, then it flips to the complete opposite. I've gotten to the point that I play one match and that determines if I will continue playing that game for the night. If it's a good game I play until I have a bad one, if it's a bad game I just get off and play something else. Skill based matchmaking needs to be removed for public matches. I understand not putting top rated players in with fresh players but for a majority of the player base it's a terrible system. I do not want to be punished with terrible teammates because my MMR is higher, as I am expected to carry every game and vis versa when I am pulled up in MMR lobbies.

Let me translate, we don't want players to quit before they can buy stuff

Fuck 343i. They have run Halo into the fucking ground. I absolutely cannot stand the terrible decisions these companies make. Yes, people will blame MS also, and perhaps they do shoulder some of the blame, but they make a lot of design decisions separate from them as well. Whoever thought that a live service game was what the community wanted needs to be fired from this studio. All we want is a good Halo game (and good games just in general) that are content rich on launch and add in a variety of things POST LAUNCH, not what should’ve been there in the first place. I’m sorry for a bit of the rant, but Halo was my absolute favorite game of all time and they have killed all my buzz or hype for any future projects. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Not this time, or ever again. They are a garbage company that is not deserving of creating anything in the Halo IP. I will approach anything they create anymore with cautious optimism, but if the last three times have taught me anything, I will just be disappointed after the game launches

2013 was the last good year for gaming. I'm calling it now. We had exceptions here and there since like Nier Automata, Dmc 5 , Hi fi rush but that's all they are. Exceptions. Not the standard.

@returnedtomonkey8886 fax, but even then when games like hi-fi rush are reviewed well from the consumers, what we like simply doesn't matter anymore. Only what makes money the quickest and best way... again huge change of pace from when devs were pushing their abilities with code to create masterpieces like Halo CE back in the day....

I'm not too sad about it. I was on world of war craft all during the 360 days the whole gamepass library is new to me

Yes and no. Graphics and graphics hardware are still improving, although they tend to look the same now vs Gunship/Privateer/WingCommanderProphecy/AH-64D/Novalogic. Story and gameplay seem to have plateaued, we do the same things. UI have gotten better and more subtle (Planescape torment, NWN1)

Honestly... Just look outside of "triple A" games. Games in the 90s and 2000s weren't made by massive studios looking to make a bunch of money off of their playerbase. They were made by what we'd call indie devs now. Smaller teams making passion projects has always resulted in better games, better movies and tv, better music, better everything. Steam is a great place to find these games. The user review system works pretty well, they always have sales running, it's easy for indie devs to put their game up onto the store and Steam doesn't try to trap them into exclusivity or ban games unless they're literally illegal somehow. Like sure, it has its issues. But... Steam, GOG, Itch, etc. Even self publishing on your own website is pretty easy, though usually harder to get buyers and there are too many scams trying to get at your personal info to tell the difference between what's legit and what's not. Point is... The bigger games have a problem. That problem is money. The bigger movies have that problem too. Pouring money into something doesn't make it good. Passion and effort and thought do.

That's what Halo: Infinite was marketed to be. F2P multiplayer but paid for story. Then the game drops all story content because they're making more money with skin packs. I would have gladly dropped $90CAD if Infinite had no storefront (earnable cosmetics only), forge, custom games, and a campaign at launch. Sadly corporations always take the path of least risk; instead of a massive investment for a full cost release, they're do the bare minimum and go for the guaranteed nickel and dime skin shops.

@@SkyNinja759 yup, well said. Just sad that it's next to impossible to have a finished game at launch that has a supported story. Hopefully better times are on the horizon.

Most games now just focus on story instead of gameplay and even then, the story isn't well written because they usually have multiple writers all interjecting their own vision. Gameplay always needs to come first

@@SkyNinja759 I think just about everyone would agree with you (other than the whales). I want AAA gaming to return to fixed box prices and stop this nickle and diming bullshit. Until then I'll be almost exclusively supporting indie games.

@@SkyNinja759That’s also what fortnite did. It was advertised as a zombie base building game but once they started making money from mtx in f2p battle royale they shifted their focus entirely. Feels like a major ripoff.

@Hazzacheets Microsoft and Sony and almost every publisher aside from Nintendo. Nintendo doesn't get a pass though either really. They just recycle the same games with marginal if any improvements so they don't even really compete with other companies. They do that so they can say they're "all about just being a video game company," but really, they haven't even tried to innovate actual gameplay since the GameCube. *sorry they did invent motion controls, but I don't consider that a positive contribution to the industry

@@bexagon6682 honestly man true, the industry has become stagnant because nobody innovates. Safety is the name of the game

EA doesn't do this, they don't have SBMM

Wouldn't be complaining to the developers team. They're just doing their jobs. It's those suits. Greedy fucks

*Publishers, not developers. The companies sticking their logos everywhere are the ones bankrolling things and making all these weird decisions to try to make more money off of their players. But more than half the time they aren't the ones actually making the games.

A majority of the games I’ve played this year have been indie games, the exceptions being god of war and the souls series.

And thus continue the cycle. Enjoy those indie games, but once they get a taste of big success, greed will infect those as well.

@@j-bod5164 I shall, most games back in the day are good for a few years until they get greedy, or now new games launch and they are full of paywall content or tons of micro transactions

@@The_Sl0thwatch AVGN to understand it’s always been like this my guy.

@@The_Sl0thever heard of AVGN? There is no “back in my day” this problem of corporate greed has plagued gaming since the beginning my guy.

I have so many hours logged in deep rock galactic because the game is genuinely fun to play.

The new mission type is so fun

Deep Rock is a goated game. Fun af both solo and with friends.

Deep Rock is about the only game out there doing monetization right. Rock and Stone!!

@@Fire4ward i only have over 30 hours by now, but that is because I cant always play.

This 100%. It should be preached more everywhere

Wait til you find out what the government does 😂

When the idiots outnumbered the intelligent... the intelligent lost. It's like the old saying goes, “It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”

THIS, so much this man. People need to support indie devs more and start viewing indie games as more than just lil arcade games you might play for 20 minutes max and see that there are literally dozens upon dozens of incredible indie games of every genre out there, even ones they might not know they enjoy yet. Instead of being a slave to whatever hip new trend is popular in AAA gaming like space games/zombies/FPS/battle royale/etc. you can play a game with almost infinite content like Terraria that has insane content mods for it that add literally thousands of hours to the game (I have 2,000 hours in terraria on steam lol). The only AAA games I've played in the past few years is technically Halo MCC, Elden Ring and Armored Core 6. For the now $70 price tag these AAA games cost the quality and level of passion put into their games just doesn't justify the price point anymore for me. No reason for me to buy Call of Duty or Pokemon when I could buy Deep Rock Galactic for $30 and laugh my ass off playing with friends or buy Palworld and literally shoot "pokemon" with guns in a open world crafting survival game. You'll never get the level of passion and exciting games from AAA games nowadays. It's too corporatized and there is no passion left as we all can see in the games they make. Nothing new, nothing trying to take risks or just making a game they think would be cool to make. Nah, we get the same rehashed CoD or Battlefield or Assassins Creed or Battle Royale game.

Indies are mostly shovelware and won’t be enough to carry gaming

Yes. Future is going more DIY.

SOCOM II back in the day had it figured out. Dedicated open servers where anyone could join. There was no "matchmaking" there was no "SSBM" there was no "quick join" there was no "quick play" - You had to sit there, figure out what game type and map to play, and join that public lobby, the same as everyone else. There was no system or algorithm. You couldn't be lazy. Everyone these days is lazy. Gamers especially.

Spot on, it's been around for years and getting worse. Completely immoral.

@bigsweetz7106 Absolutely immoral. Once gaming corporations started hiring psychologists back in early 2010/2012 I knew in a decade everyone would catch on eventually.

DLCs are always have been bad business practices since the horse armor

@@therealjaystone2344 I agree completely.

We all are, my guilt trip is pay 30 cad for the Master Chief armor 😢 and playing campaign forge and hearing over yonder AND ITS NOT EVEN IN STEVE DOWNES VOICE 😭😭😭😭😭🤧😂🤭😭

Nowadays 15$ gets you a color scheme, at best.

We should ban suits as an article of clothing, every time i see someone wearing a suit i cant help but think theyre upto something evil.

Same. There are no point of getting better if you are manipulated from the start by the system ...

Same I actually enjoy playing single player games

I have these same thoughts. Some games it feels like everything is against you. Your weapons take 2 extra shots to kill, whilst the enemies’ seem to melt you. Melees don’t work, you shoot a rocket at someone’s feet and they live, you hammer someone but they take zero damage, etc. I’m still playing Infinite but I largely only play Custom 8s and Ranked, social playlists aren’t as fun as older halos

The people who claim to care so much about mental health are the same ones implementing these systems to harm mental health. So scummy

yeah and I am also so sick of people defending the SBMM. That stuff is so scummy it should be the next lootbox scandal. It should be illegal. holy crap its like gambling.

Same. If the game requires spending more money on it then I don't play it.

Arena shooters shouldn't be needing "premium currency" in the first place. Paying for the game should grant you access to a system like Reach's. But I agree that Warframe's trading system is great despite not being updated for ease of use. Games should learn from it, but again, your average shooter shouldn't be credit card dependant.

@@Soliye. I agree 100%

it may be the best system but warframe still goes off most of this video. it creates a system for you to come back everyday. and would still have things in place that make spending money appealing. having a trade system is part of that because you think " its cheaper now that i have sold stuff in game"

"the grind is fun" like how? I played it a good amount (655hours according to steam) idk how it is now but 3/4 years ago you just stood afk with your ability on like hydro and you kill everything, the maps are/were mostly the same (alltho that cant be blamed that much considering its a grind game) the trade system i agree with but its not the only game out there that does it

Aside from the monetization system, it's the actual gameplay and story that makes Warframe so great. If you can get past the grinds, the payoff is wild. Always a new experience

Yep. I've noticed it in CS:GO several times. They have rigged matches as well. Overwatch also does this.

before the challange you had to earn it through impressing a community manager, which it seemed like they had 100s of em browsing custom made stuff and fileshares, They literally had a team pushing community interactions at all time for the purpose of ENJOYMENT not money.

It makes sense because gamers are mostly children, teenagers and young adults. Demographics known for not making very smart decisions and being bad with their money. Most people don't care about the "art" part of videogames, they care about the game being fun. Children and stupid people love to spend what little money they have to brag to others or try to show they are better, this is why skins are so popular. Dropping a nuke with default skins in COD and all I could hear from my and the enemy team was that I'm a "broke bitch" for using default skins. Gamers are a lost cause, and if you ask me, they have the gaming industry they deserve. Gamers deserve to be milked, scammed and taken advantage of, for being so stupid.

Capitalism is not the issue, its a lack of ethics from the individuals that make up these corporations. Capitalism is a-moral, it doesn't come bundled with any sort of ethical framework. To blame greed on Capitalism in embarrassingly ignorant (you think greed was a concept not known to man prior to Capitalism? Was there no greed in feudalism?). Without a profit motive there wouldn't be a gaming industry at all. Xbox, PlayStation, PC, GPUS, CPUS, data centers, broadband internet.... (this list goes on endlessly...) wouldn't exist at all. Without a profit motive, nobody would be motivated to do anything that doesn't directly contribute to their own basic human survival (or it would be an _exceedingly_ rare occurrence). Why would anyone bother creating the next generation of processing power-which takes huge teams of professionals working together (with the help of a century or more of accumulated tech-knowledge and industrial contributions)-THOUSANDS of high-effort-hours, just to high-five each other at the end?

@@jeremyashcraft2053 You've made no point that I haven't heard a thousand times over from every skinny white boy trying to emulate his father. From my experience, only very odd people still think that the profit motive is what makes humans do stuff. For example, did you get monetarily compensated for writing out that block of text I barely read? No? So what motivated you to do so? Most grown people, even some die-hard capitalists, understand that human beings experience a multitude of motivations. We have an innate desire to create, to help, to discover, to advance, and to socialize. These motivators are responsible for the very notion of society. The wheel was not created for profit; it was made to raise the standard of living. Agriculture was developed to allow for greater specializations within communities. A modern example of this is evident in most sciences. Was the James Webb Space Telescope created due to the profit motive? Nope. How about the Hadron Collider? Also, nope. Conversely, I can name several medications that aren't produced enough to meet demand simply because it wouldn't be profitable. That is an undeniable harm caused by the almighty profit motive. I feel I should also mention that economic systems such as socialism still involve $$$; I'm genuinely not sure if you knew that. The only real difference is the money goes to those who worked to accrue it rather than those who siphon as much as possible away from those who actually did the work and call it "profit" (this is why you've probably heard the phrase "capitalism is inherently exploitative" from lefties lol). Now, since I've already heard everything you could ever say on this subject, I know you're probably wanting to retort with something like, "Well, people who invest their capital into starting a business take on all the risk so that the working class can get jobs." This sentiment is total BS. The risk they take on (and only if they REALLY drop the ball) is that of becoming a member of the working class. How scary! If being in the working class meant fair wages, equal treatment, and a comfortable standard of living, that "risk" would not be so frightening now, would it? Meanwhile, if the investor's business flops due to mismanagement or whatever else, the workers are now unemployed and without any of their own capital to fall back on. Workers also aren't given the opportunity to scavenge every cent that their failed corporation leaves behind. Therefore, the risk of working for a startup is much greater than the risk of starting one. But I get it, I know you, you're still trapped in the whole "capitalism is the be-all-end-all of economic systems." Hell, you might even think it's a meritocracy for all I know, haha (HINT: it's not). Everyone I know, myself included, believed that BS once too. I mean, we grew up in the US, for God's sake. But go ahead, keep fighting the good fight in random comment sections against the people who want to raise the standard of living for the average person, decrease the wealth gap, and maybe, just maybe, get some less shitty AAA games along the way, lol. TLDR: You've contributed no new ideas to the debate about capitalism, and you have not swayed my preference for a democratically run economy by the workers, for the workers, nor do you possess the ability, knowledge, or talking points to do so. Respond if you want, but remember, there's no financial incentive for you to do so. So why bother, haha?

At this point i just pirate, or play games released years ago. No point in falling for all the new scams these oil salesmen are trying to get us to fall for these days.

I mean... AAA gaming isn't all there is out there to play. It makes me sad every time I see someone say this because over the past 10 years I've transitioned to playing almost exclusively indie games like Terraria, CrossCode, Valheim, 7days to die, Enshrouded, zero sievert, stardew valley, talos principle, above snakes, noita, palworld, Helldivers 2, etc. and I feel a rejuvenated enjoyment of this hobby I love. AAA games just aren't worth looking at 8/10 times. Outside of the rare Armored Core, Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, etc. The rest of them are overhyped trash or straight up false advertisements which I'm surprised don't have legislation against how blatant it has gotten. There's so many incredible indie games out there people just need to not view indie games as these little dinky games like Uno or some arcade game you'd play for 5-20 minutes at most. Indie games nowadays straight up beat the quality and fun of 90% of AAA games, if you ask me. I have almost 2,000 hours in Terraria alone on steam over the past 10 years. As for AAA games? I have only 1 that breaks the 30 hour mark and that's the Halo MCC and it's just from me replaying the campaigns every once in awhile.

its not going up against yourself thats bad. its when the games nerfs you. you shoot a full mag they kill you in 2 bullets to the toes.

MCC doesnt have these practices. Just say youre bad, or a reach player. (All reach players stay in their group, are VERY specific, and they all are bad lol)

@@427Jeep Bait used to be believable.