You're right about that. You found us in our land, stole it together with our livestock and that should be corrected.

@@tholendlovu1700 sorry bud world lives by right of conquest. You see addressing a wrong from 300 years ago doesn't wash actually at the time it wasn't a wrong at all you judge by the mores and laws of the day your argument is irrelevant.

@@rationalthinker9181 did stealing , pillaging and killing start becoming criminalised only when you made it a thing ? You're delusional, if I were you I wouldn't even have responded

@@tholendlovu1700 You forget that you want to sentence someone and treat them as guilty when they themselves did not commit any wrongful act. That in itself is wrong. You are more than willing to plunder, pillage and steal land TODAY, so in essence your argument does not make sense. You are on the wrong side of the constitution and the legal system. I don't understand why there is a need to explain this to you. There are better ways of rectifying the wrongs of the past. Using these outlandish methods will only bring more hate. Please understand this. Mandela understood this. It makes me so sad to see people not caring about other people simply because of what their forefathers did. Can you imagine if the world follows this way of thinking? America would invade Japan because their ancestors bombed pearl harbor, invade Germany for the losses of their men back in the day. It would be chaos. We need to be smarter about this. But then again the world is already doing so. It's just Africa that seems to be a little stubborn to forgive. It will be your downfall.

@@wookiesrppltoo clearly you are ignorant of S.A's history. Apartheid was a further reinforcement of of land theft from its rightful owners. Land was steal being taken into the 1970s so that statement falls down the drain. You want comensation for land you stole ? If someone steals your car then a couple of months later you come across that the person, would you pay that person money to get your car back ? Your argument is baseless with no ground to stand on. And up until now there was not even a public apology to what was done to our people but you'd cling on to your delusions of grandeur and morality. The natives of America got their compesation in acknowleging wrongs done to them, the jew converts in Germany similarly the same and even given a country of other peoples. Now why do we as black people have to fight before something is done? Where is your high moral code? I see you have you have a like from someone who suffers from delusions of superiority complex

@Sam • Fok jou Satan!

@Sam • neither will be it yours. Never was yours in the first place

@Sam • Africa for Africans 💪🏾

@Sam • hahaha... if only you knew whats coming...shame.

@@ayobampilo5762 so tell your brothers to get out of Europe and get back to Africa then.

During apartheid England and Australia didn't lift a figure to help the downtrodden majority. It was the Soviets and Cubans who came to the rescue. Shows how hypocritical those countries are

@Sam • Yup reversed apartheid is alive and well and will be destroyed just like apartheid. Being born here gives me just as much right as you, hence you can try and make me leave and die in the process Chris Hani style, go home to mommy, and don't forget to put on your nappy u pussy boy gay febe lmfao loloool!!!!!!

​@@brianmuvuti2505 Australia boycotted SA in rugby and cricket and many English activists also contributed in bringing an end to apartheid. U need to read up on the facts, you ignorance is shocking, wtf

@Sam • Hey keyboard warrior, we still hear your brothers and sisters' screams in our ears before they died, u know what it sounds like. U know u don't stand a chance and u know u lost the war and won the politics with help from the outside world. So we take a leave from the ANC book, reveresed apartheid will be crushed together with those who think they can get away with it. U don't know who the fuck u dealing with u Neanderthal. Chris Hani style, don't forget that, Boom lol!!!!!!

Blacks are not capable of reason

There are good and clever blacks. Problem is that the majority (or those who vote ANC / EFF) are not capable of reason because of being dumbed down in the school system, also courtesy of ANC. And off course without the dumb majority ANC cannot stay in power - so the ANC make sure they stay dumb.

@Sam • Sam, you still have a chance to redeem your soul, while you are still alive. Don't be a fool, can you not see that you are following the devil?

@@davidroux7987 not capable of anything it seems

We gonna have it soon as no one is going to be earning any money to pay tax on

Yes!!!! No Taxation without Representation

@Sam • Well Sam its like when the Sadducees tried to trick the Messiah. He told them 'give to Ceassar whats to Ceassar (if you wish) but give to God what is to God. What makes you think that the world and everything in it does not belong to God. What we will get back eventually is freedom from the rulers (Ceassars of our time).

@Sam • To answer your first question. When the Dutch King or Queen at the time sent ship to create a trade port in the Cape. The was no country, government, flag, independent peoples or king who had a claim of ownership over the territory. So we can't use terms like forcefully, illegally or immorally. To say that a person owns something means they paid for it and has proof of ownership. To answer your second I don't care about population differences no one ever asked for my consent before bringing a child into this world. You are responsible for your own children. God does not care about numerical superiority and neither should we. I.e might does not make right.

@Sam • I'm not shifting anything especially not goalposts like politicians. What I am trying to tell you in the nicest way is I AM WAY BEYOND BULLSHIT. 😎 The Fact is I am not an African I am an AFRIKAANER. a South African, Christian AAfrikaaner. Do you know what that means Sam?

Africa ekhaya lethu, Africa yama Africans ✊🏾

@Sam • land is dirt, until it’s cultivated. Those who cultivate dirt making it productive are the rightful owners. Without them it returns to dirt,none productive land equals death,some stupid people prefer the none productive death option. May God forgive them. Blessing

@ Sam • “Dumb”?

@Sam • Europe has very little unproductive land.

@@jeanwallace9791 Sorry but your comments won't change anything, section 25 is going to happen within our lifetime.

That's because you will have met your maker within a minute of your misadventure. When you are gone , your family will also be fair game to join you.

@@brianmuvuti2505 not a problem, a person can't argue with the stats, but rest assured, you will not escape unscathed

@Sam • they tried in zim to fuck with the whites and at first they kinda succeded and now they queing for food and fuel with 18hrs load shedding a day and economic wasteland the poor3est in the world, the white man brought it to its knees with international sanctions without one shot fired you dumb fucks wont even see the whitey comming you too sttooooooooopid

And by paying taxes we are accomplices of the crimes committed by the ANC

That would mean war. Those commie fucks will not submit to the law, EVER!

@@frederickventer4968 yh and you dirty shit eaters havent been arrested for apartheid or killing kids in the 70s and 80s.

@Sam • Sam, that your black name or your european name? You seem conflicted. You should keep quiet so the grown ups can talk. Only thieves trade and then want to steal it back.

@Sam • thanks for showing the world the face of black racism. Were you not the one who started calling me names in your first post? You're a hypocrite who have no moral concept of right and wrong in the first place. You think like a child. So anything you say have weight. We traded with you dumb ass. Be angry at your forefathers for trading us land.

@Sam • You really think censorship is going to stop me talking? I don't fear losers. You're a Nazi and nothing more. Could have just as well changed "boer" to "jew". Same genocidal trope. The only thing you're interested in is murder and the only people not contributing to our society is you. It's the reason Our country, SAA and Eskom is falling apart just to name a few. BEE babies running the show. The country is hanging by a thread before your family starting to starve because the indian and white community stopped carrying your ass around. Something to keep in mind. Apartheid took your voting rights, not your peoples lives. Something you have proven to turn around. You are more than eager to kill people living their lives in peace. The last people who did that was Nazi germany. You're a nothing and you'll end up just like them. Begging for some food while your family starts to starve. Thats the only way this ends if you have half a brain.

@Sam • I would love to know your sources for that 5 point list you put up. Because it's going to be ANC indoctrination all the way. I was in the school system when they started changing what happened. There were no killing and maiming because of displacement. You don't even consider the fact that what happend to people back then could be of their own making. Your arguments are completely lob sided. Secondly, we put up a trade post not not a country. That happened automatically and it took 23 years before we met the zulu. That means you are immigrants as well. It's that simple. They came front he north and the only people we had contact with before then were the Khoi Khoi. Get the history straight. There's about 400 years of generations born here in SA on my side, I'm European heritage but, I'm South-African. Your people don't get to make that call. It's done. You have as little rights as I have to say who belong here in SA. What if 53mil white people started to proclaim the murder of 4mil black people. It's a pathetic argument. You had 25 YEARS to get your kids into the right mind set here in SA. Contribute to the economy, pay tax. All you did is BEE everything and now it's falling apart. That is companies an infrastructure my people built not yours. Else Pretoria would have some failure of a kings name like shaka. WE built it, not you. This country became somthing, now it's being destroyed because of incompetence. Your lawlessness is because of your culture. It breeds violence the moment you're kids. No parenting involved. You're uneducated because in the last 25 years you hang on to hate, not restoration. You're underdeveloped because of the above and your religion because it's based in degretory practises. The killing and maiming is complete hogwash. It was trade and when your so called shangomas didn't like the the vibe they killed women and children. The whole time you talking about squirming. You are hateful, that's what you built your life around. No wonder your people are no where, you refuse to build this country with us, we have the knowledge and there's a lot of people who try to get you working together and leaving the past to the people who were involved with it. It's the indulgence in tribalism that keeps you back. Every time you type its HATE HATE HATE. Nothing about building. The eye you look through is what you will become. It really is a useless conversation this, because you're not interested in anything but murder and genocide. You will never experience life, always death with that mindset and you will always be unhappy. That's just historical facts. List me your sources, because Afriforum still have the contracts your people signed with the Boer back then.

@Sam • Just more insults, more hate. It's what you show to the rest of the world reading this. You're just interested in being a Nazi. Useless converstation. That's all you can think about.

Pure theft!!! Land has to be given where it was taken without paying!!!

The same way your ancestors did we are not stealing we just collecting

@@olwethunqindi8488 You cant COLLECT that has ALREADY been taken. Your ancestors only had like 17% when whites arrived and today they have like 70%.

@@eatmyshorts110 you can collect your things if you find means from the one who stole them so we'll be collecting

You can ramble all you want this thing will happen

@Sam • they will eventually take your land too. If you don't see that you don't know history.

@Sam • so civilised.

A group with iq of 69 will never understand anything

The plan is not to help them. The NWO, Soros and the leftists plan on getting us to wipe out each other so that they can't be blamed . That is why Malena is promoting an unled revolution. No one will be blamed but the majority of approximately 80 million people is South Africa will be dead. Object achieved.

@@AN-gl3jx then what after ?

@Rocky Fletch once upon a time, people returned from war and had nothing... Once upon a time the plague ripped through the country and people had nothing... Once upon a time people recovered from the great depression, lived in tin houses and rose out of the ashes. Once upon a time we where allowed to tell our story as white people. Once upon a time the narrative did not need to meet political agenda...

@Rocky Fletch and right there you go again. The almost 400 years of Southern Africa defined by a few years of Apartheid. Which ironically ensure more people have basic services than what i am allowed to talk about, right? Because if i say anything else i am defending appartheid, or denying what took place... Well, there you have it, i must be a racist who is denying facts. When i compare stats, then you'd sugggestvmy stats are flawed as it comes from "those" years... When i say new stats burybsad truths, we simply not acknowledge that. The boat is sinking, the repair kitvwas sold so the captain can have a nice house... Those wise enough jumped ship early, some jumped, got eaten by the sharks and those that cant swim is waiting to die a slow death. This goverment has no idea what it is doing, the people are being led to the slaughter and people like you still believe we need to talk about apartheid as if this is the only reason some are poor... If BEE ensures that white kids have to go abroud for work, what is happening to Shilo that grew up in the poor areas, got school free, university and then became a professional? Is he still poor or "kak sleg"? Is his inability to espire to something bigger my fault as well?

For as long as there is legal interdicts and court cases policies parliament cannot be voted into law. At least that is my understanding. Anyone agree? I am sure this is the case.

Then its war. Or should I say a massacre.

You go them where it hurts ... money ... It will be easy to collapse the economy, it's already fragile

@@brianmuvuti2505 Well, in all honesty, a covert war has been waged against the taxpayer for a long time. The working and middle class are eroding away due to the increase in the cost of living. If we real our Bible like good Christians we learn that satan runs the world of finance and in doing so also the world of politics.

Me too

Wait until they are in your house before you set it alight.

Make sure your insurance is up to date.

Poison the boreholes and river.

@@beverleyuntiedt1777 don't do that

@Sam • unless you are Khoisan, then it never was your land. Research outside of ANC history authors

@Sam • good luck on February 26📉🗑.

@Sam • you seem very angry toward whites. The ANC has taught you well. Pitty the blacks don't point the same anger towards the ANC and ask where all the money has gone, and why ANC politicians are buying Lamborghinis for their daughters and mansions all over the world. But maybe it's the tribe mentality of big boss man can do no wrong.

@SS9 • lol ... It won't be yours either ... The political elite will keep it for themselves just like in the rest of Africa ... us White's, we can go anywhere in the world so we not to fussed ... You on the other hand will continue to live in squalor ruled by a dictator ... It's just the way it is. Ask any African American if they would willingly emigrate to Africa, I bet you the answer would be "hell no" ... face it, you're losers

@Sam • yawn ... Blah blah blah ... Firstly I'm not of Dutch decent, secondly many countries have way more natural resources and minerals, thirdly, you fucking losers haven't accomplished anything and there is no historical precedent to suggest you ever will, Have you seen the farms in Europe, USA, Australia? What you have spewed is the usual propaganda and lies that we have come to expect from bitter losers, failures by any measure

Sam • Yesss I’m sure soon you’re going to have all the land you can eat or fit in your mouth 😂😂😂

Sam • LoLz that’s cute

@@alfamaniacs A lot of African American are moving, building and investing in Africa 💪🏾

www.afriforum.co.za/en/contact/join-now/

@@datacoherence9559 thank you kindly

Firstly.. reject the Communists/socialists/Marxist politicians and their ideologies. Then with a bit of common sense and planning, release government owned land and sell the land at a reduced price to first time home/land owners only. If you think the communist politicians care about black people ask yourself this question.. why are the RDP house being built today is of such inferior quality? Why are there so many failed "projects" that was meant to uplift the poor? Easy.. these vanity projects are just schemes for looting borrowed money.

@@jacquesdewet2661.. N what about land that was taken from blacks.. Govt doesn't have that much land at its disposal

@@langalakheshongwe5433 Government owns over 4000 farms that are underutilized or have just simply failed. Look at the example of that tea farm in the eastern cape. It was the biggest in the southern hemisphere, now that government owns it, the workers haven't been paid in 18 months and the government has to pump more money into the farm to save it.

@@langalakheshongwe5433 South Africa has a restitution process in place since 1994. This is to right the wrongs of the past. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

They laid their proposals when the meetings were held originally, all of which were thrown in the trash.

and you are going to dine on a hot pitchfork more likely, lol

😂😂

Now that we want the land back suddenly we are all African but during slavery and apartheid you forgot that? Intresting way of reasoning...

The sure he thinks the same about you

you are a fucking idiot

When you're so ignorant to still vote for the same party who is responsible for your demise, who through corruption has bled SA dry and have allowed the State Owned Entities like Eskom, Telkom, SAA, etc to deteriorate to sub zero standards, then you actually deserve the situation you're in. Africa style of democracy is a joke, hence if the ANC was a party in the UK or USA, it would've been voted out of power years ago. So your sins not to give the DA for example a chance to govern is negatively affecting your children too. So whose fault is it now to blame a tiny percentage of the population 26yrs after apartheid, Who will ever believe such nonsense, seriously?

KingCastro Modise. You are the problem. I’d explain when all property is taken you are would be worse off not the white person. It’s just easier to say your an idiot with looking no further than the day and not your future or your children’s.

If ANC released the land it has attained in the last 25years and gave "the people "title deeds this wouldn't even be an issue. Ask the right questions who is responsible for the oppression of the majority of people in this country. Countless of examples of communist ,socialist failing yet you support corruption and chaos. Sins of your forefathers lives on with you. Savage arrogance and ignorance .not to mention the overwhelming examples of failed farms that were granted on lease and what about the undeniably documented fact that more than 80%of land reform candidates insisted on A cash payout .and not länd.

You are insinuating that ...the country can only do well in if it's in the hands of people of a foreign skin colour ..... And it's stupid to say we will end up like Zim .....Mugabe did a great job....just the white supremacists had to punish him via sanctions for doing what good for the autochthonous

Blind sheep.