from a guy that owns a custom 06 gsxr 1000 with a 300 wide tire kit and 14 inch stretched swing arm. this guy has done his homework but the handling ain't as bad as most people make it out to be. yes. u do lose a bit of handling but all you have to do is put more lean into it. I was sceptical at first also when I first bought my gixxer but it's not as bad as everybody thinks . it's definitely not made for twisties though

Think it all depends on how you plan on riding. If you plan on dragging a stretch is all good. If you plan on track riding keep it short so it turns. But on the street neither will be put to full use. So either is easily street able . PEACE!

Hey Night Rider! The longer swing arm marginally effects the turning on these larger bikes. If someone is comparing a 600 with extension and a Busa or ZX14, it is completely different. The 600-1000cc "R" bikes are very light and WILL take a lot more effort into a lean to get the same results. The Busa's and ZX14's are far heavier and there for do some of the work for you. Most often guys like myself with the large bikes are more concerned with straight line racing, and how comfortable the bike is to ride on a daily basis. ( i have a 2010 ZX14 and i am 6'-1" tall, 300lbs.) I have a 12" stretch on mine, with just a 200 tire on a stock rim. The wider tire on the stock rim helps crown the tire more, assisting me in the corners. I still felt a difference in it after the stretch but not bad at all. i was very impressed. Where i live there are virtually no roads that are "twisties" and i have yet to find a road that i can drag a knee on even while speeding. lol Most of our conners i am easily able to exceed 120mph while in the corner on my stretched zx14. I also take this bike to the track a few times a summer to do some drag racing for fun. Makes a HUGE diffrenece on 1/4 mile times having the stretch. PLus as mensioned in your vid....the look so much better....they were made to be stretched! If you have a buddy with a ZX14 take it out for a ride....i heard you mention that u wish the Busa had better handling.....ya its called a ZX14!! lol I have ride'n both and love both bikes, but after riding them both on the same roads....no contest...ZX14 takes it!! Cheers!!! Ride safe!

a stretch is nice if you like to race 1/4 mile at track sometimes..it makes a big difference in the start of racing,its nice to own 2 bikes ,one for street and one for track

Night Rider, love your videos. I'm in school right now but thinking of getting a Busa when I get my next job after finishing my training. keep up the fresh videos bro.

frequent new tires and understanding how shocks work is what makes riding really fun. An ohlins rear shock, or having your shock modified to have similar valving is the real mod that matters

If you stretch your swing arm on any bike. Be sure to hold on to all the original bits. You will need it when you bin it.

thank you for Advice ❤

Very informative bro thank you

I have a stretched hayabusa with a 240 tire and i have no issues with the curves. I can still turn sharp. Infact my friend had the same bike with a 12inch stretch and he eats up the jughandles on an interstaate. He leans so hard his knee damn near touches. You can still enjoying the handling. You gotta try it out bro. It may surprise you. Thanks for the vid anyway.

AMAZING BIKE I LOVE IT ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

It is more the fat tire that slows the handling than the swing arm. It is true that a longer wheelbase will make it have a bigger circle, but much less noticeable with skinny tires. Trail ride an extended dirtbike and you will notice they can still hair scramble when set up correctly. The real deal its trail. You need to bring the back of the bike up higher the longer your swingarm is. That being said most ppl who do swingarm mods do this list, extended swing arm, bigtire kit, lowered. All wrong. Just lowering it fucks the dog more than anything. The more the back end rises the shorter the trail length will be. You compensate for the arm with a long suspension travel. So the real problem is fat tire mods and improper suspension tuning.

I extended my bike mainly for the look, I never had any intentions of taking it to the track. Aside from the more aggressive look the bike gains better straight line stability. As for cornering you get use to it quick . At higher speeds it does take a a bit more effort to lean it but nothing crazy. It also helps out a lot with cross winds, my bike doesn't have a steering damper. I extended mine 7.5" and my bike came with a 3" drop.

I like your content! And I agree with everything you said!

Hey, I demo'd a Hayabusa a while back and I have to say it felt much lighter on its feet than I expected it to. The engine was also butter smooth.

Fuckin wild. I moved all the way to Berlin Germany, clicked a random video here and dude pretty much cruises right past my old house. I used to live off Annapolis n Wayne. I knew right away where that was.

I have a 94 cbr600f2 with my rear swing arm stretched just enough to keep the front down, prior owner kept the original so I could always go back, and stock tire size. I have had zero issues with cornering, not knowing what stock cornering for the bike is like.

I usually see extended swing arms on gixxers. I think it looks pretty cool in my opinion, but its mad expensive to get it done. Got my suspension tuned and its amazing. Handles so smooth. I highly recommend that.

I would actually work on mods increasing the Cornering ability than ruining it,...... "Cornering is the Corner stone of Biking"

quick question. If a person stretches their hayabusa to around 8 inches with a 330 mm wide tire kit, will the water come up and spray them in the back while it's raining?

Your Hayabusa sounds so good, Does it have a aftermarket exhaust ?

What's good just got done looking at the video you did ..I no how to ride I don't race or will but my biggest thing is braking the bike down the right way I braking it down gare by gare let me no if there's a better way

i suggest riding a suzuki b-king, provided you can find one, it's a big bike like the busa but it's more up right so it's more nimble

If you stretch your bike and maintain the 190 on the rear, you will be able to take corners just like if it was factory length. My bike is 8 inch over and it performs great. It took a minute to get used to the stretched bike due to the change in height. To me, it has all been worth it.

Thank you Sir : )

Great video!

pro to swingarm drifting

good video

Another great vid but if you gonna do a video on stock vs swingarm bikes I would thing you would ride a bike with an extended swingarm with or without an wide tire kit. Its just like making a video on military life if you never served etc... I have stock bikes and swingarm bikes and any thing I can do on stock bike I can do on swingarm bike corning, curves etc. extended swingarm bikes doesn't automatic mean wide tire kits. keep up with your great vids though. Salute!

Lol I have a 6' stretch/ ecu flash / sc project exhaust & i know for a fact i dont feel a difference on my handling my stretch is long enough to prevent me from wheeling but also short enough to reap the benefits of a short wheel base 😁 2015 R1 btw

Just for zx14 or hayabusa's an medium extended is good imho

It just really depends on what kinda riding you like do is all.....

Hi, how does it handle in the twisties? Thanks

it doesnt look too good, but i kind of like the idea of stretching a busa a bit and slapping a turbo on, its just a difrent kind of bike

Ahhhh...physics. A conversation I can have.

My ZX14 is turbocharged I had to go with 6" over so I can have my cornering and stability, having a fat Tyre kits kills your power!

Peace Bro Stay safe!!!! I agree as well, I partly grew up in S.C./ N.C./ GA areas for some time and like Charlotte is BIG for the "drag look", i love how it looks myself and also for new riders and ladies they love it also cause its easier to balance the big bikes with the big 10" on the bike it almost stands up by itself... I almost bought one like that, beautiful, but somebody grabbed it up before me, so I went with my 2nd love, which is a NAKED, a Triumph Speed Triple 1050 and thats my thing now as ya can see in my pic there.... It is for show bikes and drag racing I agree... Hotep!!!

Hey man, is there anyway you or someone can give me a quick run down of what kind of camera yall are usin? Not necessarily the voice recording capabilities.. just a decent setup for recording on my rides

No desire for a big fat tire, Night Rider is a poet an don't know it. LOL PEACE!!!

let's see how you ride :) no vlog just you concentrating on riding!

Miss your vids

OK, first of all... a person (like me) uses an extended swing arm to qtr. mile race at the midnite runs. I have a stock bike for long cruises too. YOU CAN OWN MORE THAN ONE BIKE ya know! I still own my 1984 Gpz900R Ninja (

A few weeks ago I was going down the freeway and I saw a Honda grom with an extended swing arm

I'm thinking of getting a bus for my 1st bike. Would you suggest this?

I extended my bike about 7.5" and it came lowered 3" when I purchased it in July. I mainly did it for the more aggressive look. I use to think the stretched look was stupid but it grew on me seeing a co-workers stretched and lowered 1000RR. So when I got my bike it just looked too plain. I think you can actually build up your turning skills with it cause it takes a bit more effort to lean it at higher speeds.. As for the handling you get use to it quick. The extra length give the bike better strait line stability . My bike doesn't have a steering.g damper so the stretch helps with the cross winds a lot. My bike is a 01 cbr600 F4i and it still lifted on me accident when I did a clutchless shift from 1st to 2nd once. I never had track intentions with my bike and mainly wanted to customize it. There is lots of hate when it comes to the extension but It looks so much better. Especially on older bikes like mine with a larger tail.

Ok cool I seen you were riding threw Inkster that's where I'm from I'm thinking about getting a bike maybe gsxr600 or zx10r imma short guy so idk

It's all personal preference. I have an K5 Gsxr-600 with the front and rear lowered and a 4 inch stretch and I have a 190 rear tire to have a little more contact in the rear. And it handles like a dream. Still able to get a good lean in the turns. If done right you won't notice anything handling wise. Too low or don't setup the suspension properly your handling of the bike will definitely be noticeable. I live jville fl. Everyone I ride with have some type of stretch ad still ride hard. Just do your homework.

I recently bought a 04 zx10r and it has an extended swing arm. the first thing I noticed was the difficulty turning. How would I remove it and make it back into stock length?

What are your views on knee pucks.I for one don't want to put my knee down but i do wear elbow and knee armor.How about you do you knee down or do you wear knee armor?

what about a Busa with a non-extended single side swingarm with a 240 rear tire?

I bought a Busa and I don't want to change a goddamn thing on it! It's perfect exactly the way it is that's why I bought it!!!

Sorry newbie question, but squidding?

some even say if Stretch will lose horse power, as you have just said it go faster in a drage race, however for the look mostly on those old school chopper or chopper, as for sportbike i don't think it look good

this was a cons video. No pros really to be said here...

power and speed betweeny legs

Holy Crap dude. Maybe we can ride sometime. I Work at the Nissan dealership down the road from where you were at. (I'm not gonna say where but I recognized every building you passed.)

+Night Rider Have you ever crashed with your busa?

I would never get a vehicle mechanically customized. It seems it the stock vehicle was engineered that way for a reason.

1:25 imo negatively effects it in ways that wouldn't matter much to the average street rider that likes to go fast straight. Bc the riders that aren't cutting corners and curves like a racer won't really be as effected bc they're just simply casually leaning and turning, not racing. So not as much of a big deal to the casual drag racer on the starights. That's just my thoughts tho

nightrider I just inboxed you on instagram with the pic of the Hayabusa I'm looking at with the custom swingarm please give me feed back thanks

i disagree i had and ext on my gsxr 750 and im hooked i dont like riding a sport bike with out it now.i got a hayabusa 10" over now and i love it .i dont do wheelies and all that stuff but i can hit that gas hard and dont have to worry about gettin away from me.

They should make that swings arms a Lil flexible

a cool thing for you would be mirrors that actually show what is behind you. Yamaha FZ1 has real mirrors

if I would've seen this video 4 years ago I would've mailed you all my stock parts.

Miss ya vids

Look up Honda grom with extended swing arm on KZfaq and you will see one similar to the one I saw

I'm looking for a 125 for my 17th any opinions on what would be the best one?

will a wider rear tire affect handling??

+clusterfuk3 thats a well stated opinion forget the widetire extended swingarm bikes and talk factor size tire extended swingarm bikes. I'll take my extended swingarm r1 or zx10 and do anything you do on your stock base bike. I'll out corner you or out ride you in curves

doesnt really affect my handling, I have extended swingarm and doesn't really affect anything(for me that is)

My CBR1100XX is stretched 4 inches with a custom arm. Handles roughly the same as stock. As long as the stretch isnt crazy (+7 inches), it should not hurt the handling. I'm not a fan of the fat tire look either, at least nothing bigger than 240.

One of the best mechanics ever said if you want a fast car buy a fast car. That would go for bikes to.

I'm extending my ZX14R today 12"! I'm going to do a video on how much it changes the handling this weekend!

Bro you from Michigan

I run q3+'s on a 17 busa lowered no stretch 0 chicken strips and .....we're not talking about dragging knee but comfortable would be a understatement

He just seen the cost of it and trying to say he like the stock gtfoh

What was your first bike?

I HAVE A 2001 GSXR1000 STOCK. LOVE IT THAT WAY AND NOT GOING TO MODIFY IT. SUZUKI SPENT ALOT OF MONEY AND TIME IN RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE IT AN ALL AROUND PERFECT SPORTBIKE, SO WHY FUCK WITH IT.. TO EACH HIS OWN THOUGH. PEOPLE LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE.

who else was thinking how long that straight road is 😂

You know what they say about guys with long swingarms

Hey Night Rider, im a Dwarf, currently 3 foot 1, should i buy a Sportsbike?

What year is you're hayabusa and how much did it cost you?

bro I picked up a busa with an extended swing arm today

Are you from Michigan

Lmao u out there in Westland, Wayne area hey I'm getting my busa out this up coming summer we should ride some time bro

I think it looks cool on some bikes but I wouldn't get it on mine.

OGS IV your right , only fucken idiot would do that to a road going motorcycle , save it for the drag strip

Speaking of this video the bike I have has an extended swingarm but not by my choice lol. Anyway it's not really that long.

Did that ST really try you ? 🤣🤣

The longer the swing arm the smaller the balls

Where are you riding?

heyyyyy are you from Michigan that looks like michigan Ave you're on

I would like to see a video with Speed and concentration... Don't mind your voice but wouldn't mind seeing you spur around a corner.... Every video is so slow and I have a cruiser. I believe most people that commented against Swing arms simply never rode one. What turns you do in this video? I wanna see that bike do close to top speed man...

You mean day rider?

You never rode stretch, don’t comment. Just sayin. Good vids, just stay away from stretch vids..

You guys all say modified doesn't help... Come ride my slow cruiser and wish you had a Turbo...

Hey. If you want to increase your handling, look for lighter wheels, available for your Hyabusa. Magnesium or Carbonfiber. I want to support my country, but I haven't found a U.S. company, that makes Carbonfiber wheels. There's Tekarbon.com but they don't make Carbonfiber wheels. There are European and a South African company, that makes Carbonfiber wheels, but I didn't bookmark them, because they aren't from the U.S., sorry, you'll have to find them yourself. As for magnesium wheels, I haven't looked for those yet. I hope this helps, later.

I have no desire for a big fat tire! If you want to make your audience happy, you will write the rest of the song and sing it in the next video....

Wow! Those are seriously boring roads....how do you manage to stay awake?

the more you custermice stuff the these realiabull it gets bro..... peace out...