External Graphics Cards (eGPUs) - What Everyone is Forgetting

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Kevin Muldoon

Kevin Muldoon

4 жыл бұрын

eGPUs are always being marketed as the ultimate solution for laptop users, but companies aren't being fully transparent about the limitations of an eGPU setup.
In this video, I explain why an eexternal graphics card is not for everyone.
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@DavidHarry
@DavidHarry 4 жыл бұрын
Alright Kevin. Great video. I was recently looking into having a flexible setup of a laptop combined with an eGPU and came to the same conclusions you have. Even if I’d managed to get the right laptop, CPU etc. It was just going to be so cost prohibitive compared to a much more powerful desktop. I’d recently built an i9 machine with an NVMe boot drive and 32GB RAM for under £1000, extra editing/storage drives, capture cards and GPU are obviously an extra expense. When I looked at something similar as a laptop spec the price was just insane and obviously not as powerful. Plus, the storage and capture options for a laptop are either limited or none existent and the GPU power with a laptop and eGPU combination would never be as good as a desktop. You’re right, for certain people the laptop and eGPU will be a great option but if you’re doing serious editing/production work and/or high end gaming, you’re best option is a desktop system which will be cheaper and more powerful. I’ve no doubt that the laptop/eGPU combo will one day be as powerful, maybe more, as a desktop. BTW. Talking about mobile gaming. Have you ever tried a smartphone connected via DEX? I recently bought a Samsung A90 5G for £350 direct from Samsung with a trade in of an old iPhone 5 for £50 and right now they’ve got a cash back offer for the same phone that works out at £320 without the need for a trade in. This phone is 6GB/128GB and weirdly not only has 5G but a Snapdragon 855. The Snapdragon basically makes it more powerful than any UK bought S10. It’s cameras aren’t as good etc. and it’s screen res is lower but is still a HD+ Super AMOLED. It’s basically a less specified but more powerful Note 10+ or similar, for almost a third of the price right now. Anyway. It’s the first A range phone of Samsung’s to have DEX compatibility and with the 855 and its GPU it’s not only a great phone for gaming but when you dock it with a £20 Amazon DEX compatible interface, it becomes a serious desktop game machine for certain games that allow gamepad control. I’m proper old school and can’t play with keyboards and mice :) Seriously, with certain games it feels like at least a PS3 but with 1080/60P. I’m just trying to find a good cooling solution for it as a desktop game machine. I’m not into playing on such a small screen or with touch but maybe in the future the smartphone will take over as the main gaming platform with the ability to dock and go mobile. I’m gonna do some videos next week about this A90 and do some examples to start putting content on my other channel. Check out this video of COD mobile with a gamepad on DEX kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m91mZc2rrdqUc5s.html Cheers, Dave.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
I'm out just now, but I'll check that video later. I usually only play basic games on my phone, but that may change in the future if folding screens become popular. I mainly play on my PS4, gaming laptop or PC. Like you, I prefer the controller. I've been using an Xbox controller with my PC etc. I did used to play with the keyboard and mouse years ago, but I'd have to relearn it all now as it's been so long. My gaming laptop is pretty good at video. I paid about £1600 or so for it and it has a 2080 max Q for gaming. 4K screen too, but that does cap the refresh rate at 60. I need to spend a week clearing a lot of old equipment out. I've been putting it off for ages because of how much time it takes to actually sell it all.
@JinKazama92
@JinKazama92 3 жыл бұрын
A gaming laptop powered by a RTX 2060 costs $1500. A non-gaming laptop powered by a i7-1065G7 + EGPU set up GTX 1660 (more powerful than RTX2060 mobile based on benchmarks) costs $1000 - $1,200. Not to mention a whole lot of other choices of Video cards that are way cheaper and on par in terms of power with an RTX2060. That doesn't sound Cost Prohibitive to me. Don't forget the portability.
@DavidHarry
@DavidHarry 3 жыл бұрын
A gaming laptop is only good for portability. If you’re playing or doing anything with a computer in one place at home, a desktop will always be way more powerful compared to a laptop at any given budget and the desktop has many more choices.
@Mikey-vy3og
@Mikey-vy3og 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not reading this dude.
@vampickle4694
@vampickle4694 4 жыл бұрын
Continued listening because of the accent.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
haha thanks.
@RaphaelXWB
@RaphaelXWB 4 жыл бұрын
Me rhe same😂🤣😂
@jeltezagema6425
@jeltezagema6425 3 жыл бұрын
@@trtrhr its probably Dutch
@arealscotsman
@arealscotsman 3 жыл бұрын
What accent?
@Zone_Survivor
@Zone_Survivor 3 жыл бұрын
@@arealscotsman 😆
@danielprofio2
@danielprofio2 2 жыл бұрын
I've used an EGPU laptop setup now for 2+ years and it has been a versatile, awesome nightmare overall. I'm a photographer/videographer who also games in my freetime so i'm frequently switching between laptop/desktop and it's extremely efficient for my field work. But when it comes to gaming, there are only a handful of games that don't crash frequently. I'm tech savvy, I've done everything and have optimized a minimal setup with the most basic driver configuration and sill get issues under load in games. The bottleneck in an egpu setup is unavoidable and this bottleneck will behave very differently in video games. General rule of thumb is to strip away anything that increases this bottleneck (not only to the cpu but to the power supply). Quick tips for people who have an eGPU: consider upgrading to an apple thunderbolt .8 cable, if your egpu has any ports other than the thunderbolt...dont use them, turn kernel DMA protection off, if your egpu comes with software that manipulates the lighting...dont use it, always install the most minimal version of your updated graphics drivers (amd allows the option to install the "driver only"). If your laptop comes with any internal graphics, turn it off in device manager when using your egpu, and finally I strongly recommend you do a fresh windows 11 install before you buy your new gpu. These changes have made games that were previously unplayable, crash every few hours and have dramatically increased stability of my other games. I play plenty of titles on max settings without a crash for hours on this setup. I have also never had a crash within windows or editing/exporting huge video files. The crashing is only an issue while gaming. Dont buy an EGPU setup unless you need one, and if you still want one, get ready to NOT have anything work properly out of the box. It will take lots of time and tweaks to get everything nice and stable.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice there Daniel. I bought an eGPU eventually just because I was curious about it all (and wanted to cover it on my channel). It's sitting gathering dust though. I've not faced the same issues you have though with my laptop or main PC. Still, there still isn't great support for them.
@an802adam
@an802adam Жыл бұрын
You just saved me such a headache. I didn't think about this problem and you did an amazing job explaining the challenge and why an external eGPU would not work for me. For real, you just saved me money and time in returning everything as well as all that frustration. I feel a weight has been lifted.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
You're welcome Adam. I do have an eGPU, but planning on returning it as I never use it. Much better to just have a dedicated gaming laptop.
@markgeoff222
@markgeoff222 3 жыл бұрын
70 % is more than enough of not using any graphics for video editing, since my company is limited with Thinkpad laptop
@magus9553
@magus9553 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna buy one for grafico design for college you recommended for this kind of work ?
@MaseraSteve2
@MaseraSteve2 3 жыл бұрын
@@magus9553anything is good for such task or get the 4k x1 carbon if your style is leaning towards color sensitive BUT it's bad at low brightness perhaps dell xps? That screen is perfect for color sensitive person
@Duckstalker1340
@Duckstalker1340 2 жыл бұрын
There is no free lunch. Sure a desktop is always better, more powerful and cost less, but you can't bring your desktop to the coffee shop, or on the plane to your oversea trip. For some people, the portability and flexibility of the laptop and eGPU dock setup would worth far more than the 20% bottleneck.
@adroasuncion8641
@adroasuncion8641 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! You have been such a big help :)
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Adro.
@TEXAS2459
@TEXAS2459 Жыл бұрын
great video, and extremely ON THE POINT! thankyou
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
Thanks P V. 👍
@ncl3rdy2
@ncl3rdy2 4 жыл бұрын
Good points here. From my experience I noticed that gaming on a eGPU was okay at best. Typically lag spikes would occur often enough to frustrate anyone. With that being said I didn't originally buy the eGPU for gaming. I am a 3D artist, and at the time I had a gaming laptop with Thunderbolt 3. I decided to get a $200 (at the time) eGPU enclosure from Sonnet and a 1060 for it. My use case, and the best use case I have found is using it for extra GPU compute for rendering in CUDA accelerated applications. Or as a display adapter for 3D Modeling to handle extra poly counts. This use case works since its not having to update the screen non-stop like it would in games. To me if you're a 3D artist and want extra performance from your TB3 enable laptop then go for it. I am about to do the same thing for my work office so I don't have to drag my desktop workstation around. But that is my two cents.
@wongkyo5339
@wongkyo5339 4 жыл бұрын
Hi @ncl3rdy2, do you mean it's not a bottle neck of the tb3 when using 3d apps? I'm considering to buy a tb3 rtx2080Ti egpu for using Sketchup and other 3d rendering apps, but many people told me don't buy high end GPU for egpu box, they said it's waste performance, since they r all talking about gaming, but this still make me confuse 😢
@wongkyo5339
@wongkyo5339 3 жыл бұрын
Bryan Barajas So use a high end egpu (like 2080ti or titan) for 3D modelling & rendering , and it will not reach the bottleneck of tb3 that case waste the gpu performance? 😍
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point Bryan. Plus it's important to remember that all computers need to have CPUs, memory, storage and GPUs working in harmony. Having a super powerful eGPU setup won't mean your computer can suddenly run everything as you'll still be limited by other components (CPU in particular).
@wongkyo5339
@wongkyo5339 3 жыл бұрын
Bryan Barajas Tks🙏🙏🙏
@wongkyo5339
@wongkyo5339 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Muldoon tks everyone 🙏
@archangel4318
@archangel4318 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the advice
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@niko_x_zero
@niko_x_zero 3 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful Nick.
@MrUnderdawg777
@MrUnderdawg777 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch information mate 😇
@mylittlethoughttree
@mylittlethoughttree Жыл бұрын
This video is a great help, although I'm also not good enough with technology to know whether or not these limitations apply to my specific situation...so I wondered if you'd mind me asking your advice? I have a HP pavillion laptop that, since I installed an SSD has always been great for my needs until I started needing it to edit videos on Davinci Resolve. I keep running into trouble due to the GPU being stretched. My laptop came with Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050, which I imagine isn't the best for high end video editing. All the advice I've been given tells me I should basically buy a good desktop computer for all my needs but all the ones I'm recommended cost over £1000 and I just can't afford that. I gather eGPU is still also expensive though I hope less so... but I don't want to splash out on that if it won't work. I know it's quite a difficult question to answer, but what would your advice be?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
I don't think an eGPU is the best approach here as you're a few hundred for the eGPU then you need to buy the GPU too. Plus, at the end, you'll still be limited by the CPU in your laptop. I would recommend an entry level business or gaming laptop that has a good Intel or AMD CPU from the last two years. For example, a gaming laptop with a 3060 can be had for under a grand.
@treytrey6011
@treytrey6011 Жыл бұрын
really well explained. Thanks Kevin! Good idea, but I should stick to the workstation/gaming desktop.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
I think that's the best option for most gamers 👍
@lgccyy
@lgccyy 4 жыл бұрын
Super awesome reminder! Glad I saw this before making the purchase! Thank you! This is an honest reminder amongst all the sponsored videos! In this day and age, we really need honest and earnest ppl like you! Thanks again! And, btw, where are you from? Is that an Irish accent?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the videos Roben. I'm Scottish 👍
@zakk-kaye
@zakk-kaye 4 жыл бұрын
I think I might get one with the intention of putting the gpu in a tower im going to have built eventually anyway
@CosmonautCoding
@CosmonautCoding 3 жыл бұрын
That's the logic I have as well. I'm not ready to build a full gaming rig yet but will inevitably use the GPU in it one day
@andrewmiller9207
@andrewmiller9207 Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@conan670431
@conan670431 4 жыл бұрын
I have Lenovo P50 workstation with 32GB RAM and i7 it is a powerhouse and I agree that a eGPU will work wonders for me gaming on the go... Looking at the AORUS GTX 1070 GAMING BOX by the way as a light weight option to boost gaming and graphics when needed! Thank you so much for the info and your points!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
That's an absolute beast of a laptop. It will be great for video editing. That's the kind of laptop that would fit well with an eGPU as your laptop's CPU wouldn't be a bottleneck in most apps and games.
@conan670431
@conan670431 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Thanks, it is a wonder machine for multitasking and underneath is so easy to upgrade..... 2 M.2 SSD trays , one 2.5 hard drive/SSD slot , 4 slots for RAM sticks just love it ! Was trying to run DCS on the P50 for the last couple of days ,but the integrated graphics are not able to cope to say at least! As I am often away from home I hope that a compact eGPU will allow me to fly with my mates in half decent FPS when not working! We shall see. DCS runs sluggish even on lowest settings at the moment.!
@leon_black
@leon_black Жыл бұрын
@@conan670431 have you bought one ?
@DI0NY5US
@DI0NY5US 4 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to take a few different cards and compare the framerates they give in different games while in a desktop and then again while in an e-GPU enclosure? I'm thinking about grabbing an XPS 13 and egpu enclosure for just the sort of best of both worlds setup. The 25w limit on the i7-1065g7 in the laptop model XPS 13 puts it at about 10% faster in benchmarks than my current desktop with an i7-4790 so I don't think the CPU will really bottleneck my RX 580 much. What I really want to know is just how much performance is lost to the limited bandwidth of that x4 connection and how much more pronounced that becomes (if at all) as you upgrade the card.
@janindu1238
@janindu1238 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you’ve actually just helped me save nearly £900 which would have gone into buying a razer core x chroma and an rtx 2080, but now it’s all going towards a tower. Cheers Kevin :)
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Janandos. I think for most people, opting for a PC or a more powerful laptop is the way to go.
@maxmuller8633
@maxmuller8633 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon But Kevin! Do you have to buy an eGpu why not buy an exp GDC?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
That is another option. It's not something I've tried myself though. It certainly changes the economics of it all.
@zeliph
@zeliph 4 жыл бұрын
How does the eGPU work with a Oculus Rift S VR? I would like to use it to bring it at a friend's house
@nick1869
@nick1869 4 жыл бұрын
Although it could be done using various adapters and dongles, it would just be easier to get an oculus quest. Never tried it myself though.
@royston._.
@royston._. 4 жыл бұрын
How would you go about using egpu without purchasing an epgu enclosure? Is there a bare bones system that I could create? Can I just purchase a gpu and somehow connect it over thunderbolt?
@TuanAnhNguyen-ie4nr
@TuanAnhNguyen-ie4nr 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Dell XPS 1645 core i7 qm, is it worth to install an external graphic card for it? Thanks
@ajchaskar
@ajchaskar 4 жыл бұрын
Totally
@bepamungkas
@bepamungkas Жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that for if you already have decent laptop and plan to build a decent gaming PC with limited budget, good but cheap eGPU adapter like TH3P4G3 from EXP GDC is a viable options. As long as: - your local market have a decent demand for second hand eGPU adapter. - you already have rough spec for your build. - you're comfortable buying one or two part at a time. Rather than saving for one big purchase. E.g with budget of roughly 350 USD a month I can buy corsair 1200w platinum + rx 6700xt + TH3P4G3 within 2 month. Enjoy decent gaming performance in my work laptop (T480) while slowly buying up other parts for my final build, with CPU and Mobo as last purchase to ensure future proofing. After which I plan to sell the adapter. Granted, this is very specific case that came about due to our weak currency (IDR) making computer parts's price quite unstable.
@KiwiChaos
@KiwiChaos 4 жыл бұрын
I already have a dell G5 with a I-7 8750k, 16GB DDR4 Ram, but a 1050ti. Would it be worth it to get an eGpu or just save up for a new PC?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on your needs. Your CPU is still pretty good so it wouldn't be a major bottleneck. In your situation, there is a good argument for going for an egpu instead.
@testowykana1763
@testowykana1763 5 ай бұрын
I would say the best part about eGPU os that: -you can upgrade the GPU when you upgrade your CPU/Laptop -you can connect the eGPU to multiple laptops at home -you can buy cheaper, used laptops that only have integrated graphics, so you save money in the long run. The only negative side is the eGPU enclosure itself, its bulky, you can really carry it around. But for my use it's ok.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 5 ай бұрын
Yeah egpus are really big. About the size of an ITX PC. Cheap laptops aren't always a great fit as you're limited by the laptop's CPU. In other words, you'll not even be able to use all the GPUs power. You make a good point about connecting an egpu to multiple laptops. That is a really good use case.
@carlsagan3065
@carlsagan3065 4 жыл бұрын
Everything in this video is pretty right on. Minus ever being bottlenecked by 16 gb of ram. That just wouldn't happen. And as you go up in resolution you'd see more of a benefit. But yes, I agree it's generally not the best option for your money.
@eden20111
@eden20111 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 MacBook Air. I been gaming hard on the Sims 4. It runs fine on the Mac on medium graphics but it heats up pretty fast. I only have the base game.and I want to get the expansion packs for that. But before I do that, Im really thinking of getting an eGPU with a graphics card. Will it run good on Mac OS instead of bootcamping windows on it?
@vgam7364
@vgam7364 4 жыл бұрын
Ur better of selling the macbook air and getting a cheap gaming laptop like the nitro 5
@onioncontrol
@onioncontrol 3 жыл бұрын
My budget gaming laptop has a very beefy cpu, but a relatively weak gpu. I wonder if an egpu would be worth, or if the bottleneck from thunderbolt gpu would level it out to just mildly better frame rate.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Your performance from an eGPU will vary between games as the CPU could still be the bottleneck. You could be edit from it though if the graphics card is the weakness right now. Of course, as technology moved forward, it's sometimes better to just upgrade.
@TheJeonyboy
@TheJeonyboy 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently 10th gen CPU has TB3 built right into the CPU bypassing the TB3 controller now which makes eGPU performance better. What do you think about eGPU now?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
I'll need to look into that more. It does sound like a good improvement, but how does this affect bandwidth and performance?
@nedabiahwarner6447
@nedabiahwarner6447 4 жыл бұрын
Just recently got the dell latitude 2 in 1 for my school I'm an enginnering student and had a lenovo flex 15 with the mx230 gpu but got rid iof it because I didn't need the internal graphics card. Was planning on using an epu now for other stuff I'm ok gaming at medium or high at 1080p 60fps.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
1080p at 60fps is still awesome for most games. How are you finding the laptop?
@nedabiahwarner6447
@nedabiahwarner6447 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Pretty good it's very small yet the screen is large, keyboard and display size I liked better on the Lenovo but other than that the dell takes the cake. I've only had it for a day now but I can see myself loving it.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
@@nedabiahwarner6447 yeah Lenovo keyboards are always great, but Dell laptops tend to be cheaper. Why I opted for Dell too.
@jonashediger182
@jonashediger182 4 жыл бұрын
short question is an egpu worth it if I only have usb 3.1 (5gbit/s or 10Gbit/s im not quite shure what I have)? or do you need more than 10Gbit/s of data transfer for eGpu? Thanks
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
No it is not. USB just doesn't offer the bandwidth you need.
@infopackrat
@infopackrat 4 жыл бұрын
Now we need the eCPU. Perhaps a combo. That brings up an interesting question. Could you add CPU power through PCIe?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Haha no you couldn't.
@micsss_
@micsss_ 4 жыл бұрын
In the future, probably. Also most likely to happen cause technology is evolving fast rn.
@LuKiSCraft
@LuKiSCraft 3 жыл бұрын
You can't currently, I think because of bus speeds. Basically, it would delay the CPU's processing too much, hence why it is connected directly to the motherboard socket. But this is an interesting point... could very well happen in the future.
@milty66
@milty66 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, really informative video! My question is that will i see appreciable gain from attaching an egpu to my MSI Titan GT76 (Corei9 9900/128GB/Rtx2080) to a Titan RTX for usage in 3d content building and game engine rendering ( unity/unreal)? I personally like the idea of not having to reinstall all the programs and files.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Milty. Your laptop is a beast. Adding another GPU via an eGPU will give you additional options, but most applications will not let you use both at once (well, that's my experience) With regards to reinstalling files etc, are you referring to the actual installation software? Perhaps install the software on an external drive?
@milty66
@milty66 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Muldoon in reality I need a lot more vram on gpu for rendering and the titan rtx seems to have triple the memory than my rtx2080 which was a bottleneck during some rendering work before. As for as files, I want to avoid a new desktop entirely because I hate reinstalling my work applications over and over again. I was just looking for some advice if the pros outweigh the cons for an egpu. Thank you so much for your reply!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Can your application use two GPUs or would you have to choose one? With regards to installing everything etc. Have you considered purchasing an M2 SSD enclosure which supports Thunderbolt 3? With a Samsung Evo 970, I was able to get close to 1,000MBs read and writing via my enclosure. That's much less than what you would get if it was attached to the motherboard, but still good. Plus other enclosures give better speeds. The idea is that you could install all your apps on the external NVME SSD. 👍
@eunisecreative
@eunisecreative 7 ай бұрын
i actually dont mind having my cpu being worse as the main reason i want an eGPU is for blender and blender tends to be GPU intensive
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 7 ай бұрын
Interesting. What are you CPU and GPU% normally sitting at in task manager? Even if Blender isn't too CPU intensive, it could prove to be the bottleneck with an egpu (depending on which graphics card you install).
@iamamo2min595
@iamamo2min595 4 жыл бұрын
Hey kevin ! Mate I totally agree with you, that's why I am not ready to throw some cash on egpu solution yet, but what do you think about dell n5010 i7 1gen would it be Ok to try egpu on it?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
It's too old so won't even have a thunderbolt 3 port. Even if it did, games would be throttles by the CPU.
@iamamo2min595
@iamamo2min595 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Muldoon I really appreciate your answer cheers
@marc4life10
@marc4life10 Жыл бұрын
glad I watched this video before I bought the razer egpu
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
I'm actually selling my Razer eGPU as it has been gathering dust a long time.
@tomyang5991
@tomyang5991 3 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation! Can you give me some advice for the question I have: I have a laptop (Tosiba satellite, intel i5-2410 cpu, window 7 home premium), and the max screen resolution is only 1366x768. For some trading software application, It requires higher screen resolution (e.g., 1920x1080), do you think an eGPU may help? If yes, what model will you suggest? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the age of your laptop, I think it's time to upgrade.
@MrSonic731
@MrSonic731 3 жыл бұрын
Get a t540 don’t upgrade too much these u cpu throttle bad I have a t430 it was cheap to have a gpu
@siclusiferx
@siclusiferx 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, what if the new Ryzen (8 core CPUs if increased to 20-25W instead of 15) would be inside instead and have a 32Gb setup. Would this setup be able to run a VR Game ? What do you think? A gaming PC would cost around 3600 Euros (Ryzen 3950x, RTX 2080Ti, 32GB Ram DDR4 3600, X570 motherboard, cooling and NVME SSD, No monitor or wireless keyboard and mouse), add to it an amazing ultrabook like the the HP spectre 360 2in1 4kOLED (1800 Euros) and it would break the bank (total of around 7500 Euros, if a the monitor was 1000Euros 144Hz, 1ms, 4k, G-Sync, plus Valve Index kit). But this way I would have the best of all worlds :P lol. While having a powerfull 2 in 1 (Ryzen 4900U for eg.) say 2000 Euros and buying an eGPU would cost an extra of 1500Euros (RTX 2080Ti + Case) that would be saving me lots of money.
@hardjuan2587
@hardjuan2587 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like the perfect combo for me too.
@jjones3705
@jjones3705 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the opposing argument! I would have spent 1 grand for nothing
@JC-bd5uj
@JC-bd5uj 3 жыл бұрын
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@Joe-mp2bn
@Joe-mp2bn 2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation. I have a dell precision m2800 with an i7 4810MQ quad core and a Amd FirePro 4170m 2GB gpu with 16 gigs of ram. Do you think that would be a bottleneck For an Egpu? Thanks.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the game. A lot of laptops are coming out with hexa core and octa core CPUs. Some games may bottleneck with a quad core, older games may be fine.
@TheE3R
@TheE3R 4 жыл бұрын
I have A 2018 Dell XPS 13 I7 1.8hz, 16bg RAM, Planning to get the Core X Chroma with the RTX 2070 Super, already have a QHD ultrawide monitor, will it work with no problem?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
It should work with that setup.
@alaskacpu
@alaskacpu 3 жыл бұрын
The CPU must match the type of GPU you plan to use - but as a miner - it really doesn't matter - we don't use the CPU much at all - we want the GPU and it's power! It's a win win for miners - if you have high end GPU's lying around - but the cost now - I wouldn't recommend.
@gavlatennis2824
@gavlatennis2824 11 ай бұрын
This guy talk so much sense.
@Komboss
@Komboss 3 жыл бұрын
Spent 20 on a PSU, 50 on a 750ti and 25 on a exp gdc adapter for an old laptop, from Intel HD to 750ti on competitive games anyone will get 100 more fps or more
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by three components?
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 3 жыл бұрын
Ate there any egpu with dual channel tb3 ports so you can hook it up to dual tb3 port for 80gbs instead of 40gbs bandwidth.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. The GPU is tired to one connection, plus the Thunderbolt 3 controller spreads the PCIE traffic across all TB3 ports. www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/7r8ajo/why_dont_egpus_have_two_tb3_connections_to_double?sort=top
@nopesalamandra9144
@nopesalamandra9144 Жыл бұрын
I would like to ask about the possibility of a cpu bottleneck, I assume you would just need a cpu that's as powerful as one that you would put into a desktop with the same gpu, or do you need a disproportionately powerful cpu to get the same performance out of an egpu? I have a convertible laptop with a Ryzen 7 and 16GB RAM, it can handle the Hitman games and anything less demanding on its own without issue but there's still some games that are out of reach for me.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
The chance of a CPU bottleneck is high as people tend to use egpus with lower powered laptops which do not have a discrete GPU. A convertible laptop will have a CPU optimised for battery life so the CPU would be the bottleneck in most games.
@ghostdash6429
@ghostdash6429 5 ай бұрын
I have a intel core i5-5200U 2.20GHz 8gb ram, I would also like try to upgrade my graphics card to a GTX 750. I’m only planning to play older games on it though. Do you think it’s necessary for me to upgrade?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 5 ай бұрын
It depends on the famed you are playing. That's a very old dual core CPU at this point. There's a chance your phone is more powerful. What type of games are you thinking of playing?
@gforever1000
@gforever1000 3 жыл бұрын
You hit the keyword on this topic, CPU! Most important thing to consider when thinking on use eGPU
@Tri-Technology
@Tri-Technology 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on your setup. I got a i7 7700hq (4 cores/8Threads) and I'm gaming on a 4k display with an eGPU + GTX 1070 ti. My CPU is around 60% when my GPU hits 100%. So if you get a Laptop with 6 cores like the i7 9750H + RTX 2070 you get the amount of power which is capable to handle all the important tasks mostly well. If you are using a dual core CPU of course it will be the bottleneck. But you need to have in mind, that the GPU is only the bottleneck if you are gaming on 4k. It's different on WQHD or FHD.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
The bottle neck wouldn't just happen with 4K though. Even my hexa core 8700K and 1080TI build would bottleneck with the CPU when playing at 1440P. It depends a lot on the game. Modern games require more CPU resources, so it's going to be an issue with older computers.
@Tri-Technology
@Tri-Technology 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Yeah but how you said the CPU bottlenecks at 1440p at 4k it wouldn't except you got a 3090 in your eGPU case but that's not worth it because thunderbolt 3/4 is the limiting factor then. I can't speak for Games of the last 6 months because I was to busy to try new games.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
1440p at 4K? I think you're misunderstanding what I said. My 6-core 8700K bottlenecked with many games so I wasn't even utilising the full power of the GPU. So an egpu would be a waste of money for most games. Obviously a different story with some laptops, but the principle is the same.
@TheBluntNinja
@TheBluntNinja 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. My laptop has a current gen quad core i7 though, and my current tower has an fx6300. I would probably get better performance selling off my tower for parts and putting its gtx960 in an egpu for the lappy, no?
@aaronraufman8092
@aaronraufman8092 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. You spoke of bottlenecks in your video and an approximate 70% performance reduction; I'm wondering if you could elaborate on this idea? I get that I'm not going to have desktop-like performance out of an eGPU setup, however, if I knew the limitations I might be able to get more value out of the hardware I have. For example: should I simply rule out high-performance GPUs for the sake of not getting the performance? I'd like to think there is a sweet spot where GPU performance on Thunderbolt 3 has the best value.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Aaron. Your motherboard likely has at three main PCIE slots. There is an X16, X8 and X4. You may have some X1s too. It is recommended that you put graphics cards in an x16 so that you maximise bandwidth available to you, though you can also put it in an X8 for a slight reduction in performance. An X16 can go up to 16 GB/s. An X8 can go up to 8 GB/s. An X4 can go up to 4 GB/s. So with a GPU, you're going to get a maximum throughput of either 16 GB/s or 8 GB/s. In comparison, the maximum throughput of a Thunderbolt 3 connection is 40Gb/s. That's bits, not bytes. So it translates to 5 GB/s. 5 GB/s is obviously lower than the 8 GB/s you get with a PCIE X8 slot and the 16 GB/s you get with the X16. The Thunderbolt 3 controller is linked to the CPU using four lanes of PCIE, so in practice you only get 4 GB/s (or less). In other words, you're going to get the same amount as an X4. Thing is, many laptops only provide two lanes of PCIE to the Thunderbolt 3 port, so you're down to around 2 GB/s. Then it's down more if you connect anything else. In short, it's all about bandwidth, or in the case of the Thunderbolt 3 and GPUs, the unavailability to take full advantage of a graphic card's full potential. I don't claim to be an expert on all of this, but it's clear there's diminishing returns from spending a ton of money on high end GPUs if you're going to lose a lot of its power.
@ramitb6270
@ramitb6270 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Haha, found the answers I was looking for 3 weeks 🥰🥰🥰🌷🌷🔥🔥😍😍🤗😋❣️
@ramitb6270
@ramitb6270 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Bless you Kevin 🌷🔥👍🥳🥳
@pkerry12
@pkerry12 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience with EGPU they run very well when you have a decent graphics card, decent cpu i7 (no less) and running it at resolutions of 1440p and 4k for some reason the performance dip is on 1080p there is a big gap on fps. But if you didn't have the FPS counter on you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a egpu and a inbuild PCIe graphics. Where you will see bad performance is if you get a shit graphics card if your Laptops dedicated gpu can outperform you egpus then you need to think about your graphics card choice. I use a macbook pro 15 inch though so the specs tend to be alot better than most PC slim laptops so I haven't had an issue in that regard. From the numbers though its still much cheaper to get a egpu with a decent graphics card than to buy a high spec PC for gaming and video editing etc.
@wolfgangkoeppen52
@wolfgangkoeppen52 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah with my 2018 i9 MBP (with the 560X) I have a 5700xt as my eGPU and I get great performance out of it, i get about 110-90 FPS in shadow of the tom raider with the eGPU and 30 with the dedicated GPU in my MBP
@oliaj6650
@oliaj6650 4 жыл бұрын
So i already have a laptop with a CPU Intel Core i7-7700HQ 2.80GHz ,8GB RAM and a GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050. Would it make sense to buy a eGPU?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
In your position, I would get a new laptop. It would be a better investment.
@zalafinari
@zalafinari 9 ай бұрын
I have a Lenovo P72 with a Xeon E2176M, 128GB RAM, and a Quadro P4200M (Max Q) and was able to play Cyberpunk 2077 but it's been struggling with Starfield. No matter how low put the settings or the resolution, it just doesn't seem to have the GPU power to have a good experience consistently. I've been trying to determine if my setup makes sense for an eGPU and based on what you say here, it sounds like my situation is one of the better cases for one, yeah?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 9 ай бұрын
Hi Zalafini. The Lenovo P range has always been a great business laptop. Xeon CPUs were never designed for gaming, but sounds like it's still doing ok. Looking online, it looks like you get similar performance to an 8850H. How much CPU are you using when playing Star field? Your CPU is about five generations behind now so there is a good argument for putting your funds towards a new laptop instead.
@zalafinari
@zalafinari 9 ай бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Whenever I check my resources when the game is stuttering or doing very poorly the GPU is maxed but the CPU is like 10% or otherwise very low use.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 9 ай бұрын
That's really low. In that situation, an eGPU could be a good solution if you're still happy with the laptop. Be sure to factor in the total cost of the eGPU enclosure and the card you want.
@jacobmolestsoprhans2535
@jacobmolestsoprhans2535 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, I have just over £1450 to get a laptop + an eGPU, I can get a pretty good pc for that price, but i prefer a laptop for movement purposes. What would you recommend? With the GPU Shortage a 1080ti can reach £800. Not for a budget really. Also got to buy a mouse, some spray paint , monitor, monitor arm, lights and cables. Let me know what you recommend
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Corny. I have a Razer eGpu. It works well, but if I had around £1,500 to spend, I'd buy a good gaming laptop from Dell or Lenovo etc. After buying the egpu and a GPU, you've got less money to buy the laptop. Every situation is different, but for most people I believe buying a better gaming laptop is the best move.
@jacobmolestsoprhans2535
@jacobmolestsoprhans2535 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon im looking at better mini pc's they give the best performance, and all i really need is something that can run docs really well with a lot of tabs
@einar6229
@einar6229 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to buy the full spec HP specter 360 (2020) with the ice lake 10th gen i7, though I'm not a huge gamer (btw massive appreciation and respect to all you gamers who have helped me with questions in the past! You're epic!) there are a few games i really enjoy, COD, assassins creed, witcher, perhaps a few more in the future, would an eGPU be me worth purchasing with that processor?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. I play COD most days and have it installed in my main PC and my gaming laptop (which has a 2080). That game uses a lot of CPU resources. So that's probably going to be a bottleneck. Your laptop will have the i7-1065G7. There are gaming tests with the CPU on KZfaq such as kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7B2hK9j3568mX0.html An eGPU would help, but with games like Call of Duty, you might still be held back with the CPU. My guess is that even with an eGPU, you're gonna struggle with games unless you really drop the resolution and frame rate. I know with my Dell XPS 13, most first person games send the fans crazy.
@einar6229
@einar6229 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Thank you! Truly, that helpsso much! I've looked into it more and i can see the cooling on the 2020 spectre would be an absolute nightmare if i were to play a couple of hours of COD in the evening, even using an external monitor. Fortunately, right now I'm in the position now to buy a great laptop, something I've always wanted, yet never been able to afford, but it must be light for travelling, i got a bit over enthusiastic and checked out alienwear 😂 just beautiful, either way, thank you for the truly great advice! Very much appreciated and subscribed 👍🏻
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Chris. My Alienware gaming laptop has a 2080, but the GPU hardly gets touched in COD as it's the CPU that bottle necks. It's loud as hell too when playing games. What sort of size are you looking for? 13"? 15"? Maybe something like the Razer Stealth is more up your street. www.razer.com/gaming-laptops/razer-blade-stealth
@einar6229
@einar6229 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon I was actually just looking at the razer stealth when i got your notification, it's a proper mini beast! Preferably I'm looking for a 13" (ish) as it's easier to travel with.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
There aren't too many portable laptops that size with a GPU. The surface book is one option, but is expensive.
@alvinmwangi
@alvinmwangi 3 жыл бұрын
Can I plug the eGPU through a TB3 dock that sits at home. Or would I have to plug the dock (which connects to the displays) in one port and the eGPU into a 2nd port?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You can go through a dock (daisy chaining), but you'll probably see a performance drop. There's a discussion about it at www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/78epbk/daisy_chaining_the_egpu?sort=top
@alvinmwangi
@alvinmwangi 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Kevin, much appreciated.
@TewaAya
@TewaAya 2 жыл бұрын
With new advancements in thunderbolt 4, pcie 5.0 and usb 4 type c soon coming to laptops in 2022, would speed and bandwidth still cause issues? Price wouldn’t be an issue because it’s written off as business expense.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt 4 operates at the same speed as thunderbolt 3, though new motherboards and CPUs do have more bandwidth. It all comes down to the CPU you're using.
@schillaci5590
@schillaci5590 Жыл бұрын
I think things have changed drastically since this video was released. A gaming laptop from 2019 had a CPU which according to the benchmarks performs slightly worse than a CPU from a slim notebook from today. I bought a gaming laptop at the end of 2019 with an RTX 2080 and a medium to high spec i7 chip at the time. I can manage 60 FPS in Fortnite with max settings and double that with average settings (not the best benchmark I know). I'm now looking at a laptop with no integrated graphics with a CPU that is 15% better than my old one (even though it's not the best one available today, it's still better than what I had due to advances in tech). The laptop is super light, thin with a great battery life (LG Gram 17). Even if I can get the same performance on my new laptop as my old one using an eGPU, I'd be happy enough but looking at the spec, I'm destined to get at least a 50% improvement using a RTX 3080. That's enough for light/casual gamers. It isn't an efficient way to operate but I don't think the CPU gap is an issue anymore for most people who have portability requirements.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
Hi Schillaci. Yes these things do change over time. Your gaming laptop probably had an Intel Core i7 10875H (8 cores, 16 threads). The 2022 version of the LG Gram 17 has the Core i7-1260P and it does look like it performs better. You'll be limited to 60hz on that laptop display, but you could hook up a good gaming monitor and an eGPU. The thing is, now you have a laptop connected to a monitor and an eGPU that is the size of a small pc. I'd rather have a gaming laptop in that situation.
@tadaka8
@tadaka8 4 жыл бұрын
great vid! wish i saw this before i got my egpu. any chance you setup a egpu with a dell xps13? I have it setup for mine (32gb ram and i7) but for some random reason the laptop freezes even if there's nothing running. wonder if you've seen that or if you can direct me to an articlet that can help me troubleshoot. thanks!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video. I haven't setup an eGPU yet, but I have read about many problems like that. You can check your task manager for CPU and memory usage etc, but my guess is that this is an issue with the eGPU itself, not the laptop. What eGPU did you buy?
@tadaka8
@tadaka8 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon I haven't seen any issues with the task manager as the output looks consistent. I got the Razer core chroma x. Are you aware of any issues with that egpu?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
A quick search shows issues with freezing. In this thread, amp.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/eo4ugx/core_x_random_freezes/ , it was because the person wasn't using the right cable. There's another discussion about it at egpu.io/forums/pc-setup/random-freezing-in-windows-10-pro-with-intel-nuci7beh-razor-core-x-gtx-2060-super/ too. I suspect there are several issues to troubleshoot such as the software, the device manager, hardware and more. I'd just search for your model and then add freezing to the search and you'll see others that have had the same issue.
@tadaka8
@tadaka8 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon thanks! let me get a better thunderbolt3 cable to start off then i can better troubleshoot.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using the official cable? My experience with my own thunderbolt 3 dock is that you really need to use the official cable. Cheap replacement cables cause problems.
@ttocserdna
@ttocserdna 4 жыл бұрын
just for a portable set up
@hybridgaming340
@hybridgaming340 4 жыл бұрын
Will integrated and external graphics card work simultaneously or only external graphics card works?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
You can use both.
@Greasy__Bear
@Greasy__Bear 2 жыл бұрын
I have an old gaming laptop with an excellent cpu but the mxm gpu went bad.(I'm not sure if it's the card or the slot) I'm not going to buy some fancy external GPU setup because I like the Frankenstein look.
@raw6954
@raw6954 4 жыл бұрын
hey kevin do you think the hp compaq 8000 elite ultra slim would work with a mpcie cable (about 30$) and a graphics card and psu (it has a net card slot can i use it?)
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
I can't say as I haven't used that laptop and don't know the exact setup you're trying here.
@patrick3376
@patrick3376 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use the Exp gdc beast. It won't be as efficent as a egpu with thunderbolt 3..
@justyouraverageuser9169
@justyouraverageuser9169 Жыл бұрын
Something that's been on my mind as of the past 30 minutes is the thought of having an eGPU for my Toshiba satellite which uses a intel i5 4210U 2 core processor and is currently running manjaro linux (might switch distros or return to windows 10 if still possible). The gpu of choice would either be a gt 710 with 2 gb ddr3, pcie 2.0 and hdmi support or a gtx 1660s with 6 gb of gpu memory (can't recall further details because I don't have the box). The built in display doesn't work so I would have an external monitor in use running at 1080p 60 hz. I ran both options through a bottleneck calculator and the bottleneck for the gt710 went as high as over 40% whereas the 1660s didn't go over 6%. Would like your thoughts on if this could possibly be a good idea or if this idea would go terribly wrong :P
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
A fourth generation dual core Intel CPU and a GPU with 2GB of DDR3 memory isn't going to help you much. I'd strongly recommend upgrading at this point using the money you'd spend on an eGPU. The integrated graphics in modern CPUs would give you better performance than an old CPU and GPU combo.
@justyouraverageuser9169
@justyouraverageuser9169 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon appreciate your input, thanks for preventing me from spending a ton of money off some thought I had at 1:30 in the morning lol
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
Haha no problem. It can be difficult to know what the best option is sometimes. What's your budget and your requirements? (That is, which apps or games do you want to play).
@justyouraverageuser9169
@justyouraverageuser9169 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon I currently already have a fairly decent mid to high range desktop running a r9 5900x paired with a rtx 3080, which can handle whatever I throw at it pretty well. For my laptop, I wouldn't really expect it to do much even with an eGPU (low or medium settings at around 30 fps would be acceptable for me) I kind of just thought of getting an eGPU for the heck of it, since I already have a spare gt710 and a spare gtx 1660s. I'm not familiar with eGPU prices but I'd probably have a budget of $200, assuming I can get an eGPU case alone. Atm im not really interested in having a new laptop unless I could somehow get a 3070 or better on a laptop for $700, which im aware is probably quite unrealistic
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
I'd take a look at some GPU performance comparisons. The results aren't always 100% accurate, but it will give you an idea of what your old GPU can do against modern GPUs and integrated graphics on modern CPUs. I suspect the main problem with you is your laptop compatibility. Even if your old laptop has thunderbolt 3, it probably doesn't have the bandwidth support you would like for graphics cards (though less of a concern with an old GPU).
@johnmarkluriz6602
@johnmarkluriz6602 3 жыл бұрын
Hi i have a acer aspire 3 specs is core i5 10th gen and mx230 it has a m.2 slot is it possible to put a external gpu on that?because I heard that aspire are white listed
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
The m2 slot is used for SSDs (in desktops, it can be used for some other things too).
@bentont
@bentont Жыл бұрын
I bought Razer Core X recently and connect to my Dell Laptitude 7390 with 8th i7 / 16 ram. There is great difference if I output the video to a external monitor from my RTX-3060 rather than only return video to my laptop display. The FPS has improved over a double even I played 3A gaming. The critical point is, if you only return image to the laptop screen, I will increase the capacity of the TB3. Based on the factory advice, it will affect around 30% performance drop. So don't worry about the CPU bottleneck if you transit the video to an external monitor. I can say, the eGPU is good to anyone if their laptop only have an onboard GPU but would like to enjoy gaming or high efficient on graphic works.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
Your Dell probably only has a 60hz screen. It's not designed for gaming so will have poor latency and low refresh rates.
@samm5256
@samm5256 3 жыл бұрын
What if I’m just looking to stream on streamlabs from my x box at a good frame rate. I have an xps 15 btw with a GTX 1660 super
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You'll be fine with streaming.
@bentont
@bentont Жыл бұрын
Your video is good for consideration before buyiing eGPU. However, the critical point is that you need to output video directly from the display card to an external monitor through DP or HDMI. Otherwise, you will not see the great improvement if you just return the image to your laptop monitor.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
You could still display on your laptop monitor, but you'll be limited by its resolution and refresh rate.
@zoladkow
@zoladkow Жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon that's not at all what this is about Kevin. you mentioned but screen parameters, while the thing with returning the image back to integrated display is that you loose some TB data lanes, which otherwise could be used to feed more input to the eGPU 🤷
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how significant the difference is specifically as I never tested that. You'd have to test the HDMI connection directly from your laptop and from your eGPU and then compare the max FPS.
@duskrider9698
@duskrider9698 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm a bit confused, would the CPU be an issue because it's possessing the the extra stuff from the egpu or would issue just be the CPU being less powerful than the egpu?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
The main issue with the CPU is that in the majority of games, the CPU would quickly bottleneck and be the main stumbling block with playing games. If you have a basic dual core CPU, it doesn't matter if you pair it with a 1060, 2070 or 3080, as the game will bottleneck due to the CPU.
@duskrider9698
@duskrider9698 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Okay, I'm looking at an xps with an i7 core h? so would that still bottle neck with like a 3070?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
The new XPS 15 has 6 or 8 core CPUs. They shouldn't bottleneck in too many games. As always, it depends on the game etc.
@Nightz..
@Nightz.. 3 жыл бұрын
i play on a ps4 only i have a rlly good i7 laptop but with no graphics card and its only used for work should i get an epu also im not aloud to sell
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Which i7 CPU? For most people, I think the answer is no, you don't need an eGPU.
@pranavparekh9004
@pranavparekh9004 4 жыл бұрын
Sir ,i have lenovo ideapad S340 laptop , having I7 10th generation processor, 8 GB ram, 512 SSD , 4 GB Integrated iris plus graphics card with it. My laptop has only 128 mb VRAM. I want to run solidworks in my laptop. 1) will i face any problem with graphics while running solidworks? 2) can i use eGPU for my laptop to run solidworks? 3) and if yes, which egpu is best for students to run engineering based software like solidworks?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Will you face any problems? Possibly. SOLIDWORKS recommendeds a computer with a dedicated graphics card, which you don't have. help.solidworks.com/2019/English/Installation/install_guide/c_viz_prereqs_system_reqs.htm I'm not familiar with the program so I'm not sure how well it will run. You could spend a few hundred on an eGPU and then hundreds more on a GPU for it, then you won't even be able to use it as the laptop doesn't have Thunderbolt 3. On my opinion, the best option is to sell the laptop and buy something with a dedicated GPU.
@OlimpiuVuia
@OlimpiuVuia 4 жыл бұрын
I own a Alienware 15 r2 laptop. I use it for video editing în davinci resolve. Sometimes the GPU memory gets full. I still wonder if I'll need an external GPU (alienware graphic amplifier) or not. Sometimes I need the portability of a laptop and other times I need a more powerful system, without breaking the bank. Could be an eGPU for me? Thanks.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say so as you would still be limited with your CPU. I mainly use premiere pro, which uses more CPU than GPU. I've tried resolve as it puts less stress on the CPU. What's your task manager saying? Is your GPU at 100% whilst CPU usage is low? Or are both high?
@OlimpiuVuia
@OlimpiuVuia 4 жыл бұрын
​@@KevinMuldoon, if I deliver/export a video, it will use the entire CPU and maybe 10% of GPU (Geforce GTX 965M with CUDA). But maybe it works better for playback... Or maybe there are options for external GPU that are used more efficient. When I stack more than 10 photos at full resolution on different tracks I get this error, like there's no more memory on GPU. Thanks!
@OlimpiuVuia
@OlimpiuVuia 4 жыл бұрын
In playback mode, after some color correction it gets like this: CPU: ~37% RAM: 11/15Gb GPU0 (Intel HD530) ~35% GPU (GTX 965M) ~50% The system doesn't always keep up 50fps with 1080/50p color corrected timeline in realtime. So, for me, its cheaper to invest 200$ on Alienware Graphics Amplifier and something more on a video card. Investing in another pc, monitor and video card, and keeping two systems just don't make sense for me.
@pcllau
@pcllau 3 жыл бұрын
How about the other way round. If you have a CPU like an AMD 7 5800x with a eGPU using Radeon 580X?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
The 5800x is a desktop CPU so you'd be better using a regular GPU.
@irvinangon8944
@irvinangon8944 3 жыл бұрын
What about that surface pro? I have the surface pro 5, and I just ordered an egpu razer x core. Did I make a good investment?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, no. The surface pro 5 is a great little laptop/tablet hybrid and the Razer X Core is a popular eGPU, but they are not compatible with each other.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what laptop you have, but in theory the razer core would work with all thunderbolt 3 ports. Though I know some laptops only provide two PCIE lanes to the TB3 port, not four.
@ugurozdemir6573
@ugurozdemir6573 3 жыл бұрын
Is that an Orange Peli 1200 case in the background? :)
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm not sure. It's for the Zoom F8.
@leewarner9357
@leewarner9357 2 жыл бұрын
Upgraded my Alienware M18R2 laptop. Has 2 680m's. Many games no longer SLI so i added a Titan X to my laptop with an external EGPU through the Express port. Direct pcie lane contact. Get 4x in the lane. Yes its not like it would be on a desktop but hell, i now have 12 gb of vram vs 2gb per 680m. Performance is actually great and can run 4k with 60+ frames per second. Now let me say this, the Alienware laptop i have is a full gaming laptop with the 3840QM extreme and 32 gb of ddr3 ram with one m.2 and 2 solid state drives. Not your average laptop
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm looking at getting a new gaming laptop later this year. A lot of good options are there. The used gaming laptop market is good too. I can see the argument for picking up an older model like the one you have.
@leewarner9357
@leewarner9357 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon I bought this laptop new back in 2013. It has the 18.4 inch 4k screen on it. They dont make those that size anymore. Why I want to keep it and mod it. It's in imaculant shape and I do the maintenance on it. Been building PC's for years.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah most laptops go up to 17" displays, not 18. Sounds like you use it like a desktop. I prefer 13-15" laptops so I can carry them around easier.
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue 3 жыл бұрын
cpu wont necessarily be the limiting factor. it can be but usually it'll be the bandwidth over the TB3 port. 30-40% performance loss is unfortunately common
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
That's true. The number of PCIE lanes available via Thunderbolt 3 is another major factor.
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon just hooked up a 1080 ti to my laptop with this sonnet egpu enclosure and I'm getting just a hair under GTX 1080 performance (and lots of bugs and system crashes). returning this enclosure Monday lol
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. From what I've read, the enclosure makes all the difference. There's a lot of software problems with many of them. You're doing the right thing getting your money back.
@_reZ
@_reZ 2 жыл бұрын
Just an fyi! With 12th gen Intel out, a mid tier cpu like an i7 1260p + 3060Ti will only lose you 10 to 15 percent of the performance of an equivalent desktop.
@H.-.......-1b
@H.-.......-1b 11 ай бұрын
I am gonna use m.2 to egpu my m.2 slot is PCIe 3.0 x4 3 I know it’s gonna limit but is it bad as the thunderbolt
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 11 ай бұрын
It's not something I've tested myself, but there's a good comparison about them here egpu.io/forums/expresscard-mpcie-m-2-adapters/build-m2-vs-thunderbolt/
@bryceamator9407
@bryceamator9407 3 жыл бұрын
So basically to sum it up, eGPU’s can boost your laptops but only to a certain extent. And this is because if your CPU maxes out, your GPU can’t increase any further?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because every application you use will throttle if the CPU, memory or storage reaches 100%. So you may not even get to use the GPU power you have.
@LawatheMEid
@LawatheMEid 7 ай бұрын
So.. how to choose the optimum compatible egpu with any old laptop? Thanks
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 7 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on how old the laptop is, what games you play, what resolutions and frame rates you want to play at, what your budget is etc. For most situations, buying a gaming laptop or small pc is a better option.
@ambientlightofdarknesss4245
@ambientlightofdarknesss4245 4 жыл бұрын
Do all egpus need thunderbolt 3 compatible laptops or are there some that can plug into a hdmi or usb-c or something?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
No, they won't work with HDMI or a basic type c connection.
@Preben2024
@Preben2024 2 жыл бұрын
They do USB C and Thunderbolt 3 is not the same
@master.__.k
@master.__.k 3 жыл бұрын
hey i need some advice, i spoke to my mom and dad and they said agreed to get me a gaming pc once i do well in my march examination. so i want to get advice on what to get. i thought of getting an RTX 3070 and an intel core i9 9900k. Now what else do i need to get for my pc
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You'll have to buy all components of you're building it yourself. If you're buying from a company, just make sure the CPU and GPU can play the games you want at the resolution and frame rates you want. If you have a set budget, look at what you can get for the money and then take things from there.
@master.__.k
@master.__.k 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon ok alright, so as my mother board option is there a cheap but good mother board i can choose, for the core i9 9900k and rtx 3070. im asking this because i have no clue on mother boards and i feel i may do the wrong thing. Also what about the cooling for it, what do i need to consider?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Before buying anything, I recommend browsing through other builds on Pcpartpicker.com. You will need to read reviews or every single component you purchase to ensure it has what you want. Look at the builds from others too and see what they have. Don't rule out AMD either. Right now, AMD are making some great chips for gamers.
@pauespenido9788
@pauespenido9788 Жыл бұрын
I got i7 3rd gen 8gb ram with GT740m, I also like to try egpu for my laptop, I like to try RX 590 it will work?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
I'd be looking to upgrade as that's an old computer, but out of interest, do they have thunderbolt 3?
@marioiscoolgames327
@marioiscoolgames327 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid but do you think an egpu would work for the oculus link
@williambeaudette152
@williambeaudette152 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering too, did you get an answer?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
In theory, it should work if you meet the GPU requirements.
@LuisGomes.
@LuisGomes. 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering if can you edit 4k video in premier Pro with this or another eGPU?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you'll have no problems doing that. You just won't get the same performance as connecting the GPU directly to the motherboard.
@LuisGomes.
@LuisGomes. 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon thanks Kevin... I've a Dell XPS 15 10th Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10885H (16MB Cache, up to 5.3 GHz, 8 cores) 64gb ram and NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1650 Ti 4GB GDDR6 So probably as you can see I want to have more gpu power to edit 4k in premier Pro that know I can do it but only 1/8 quality and I ve to preview all the time
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
What does task manager show for your CPU and GPU usage when you're using Premiere Pro? I use DaVinci Resolve now, but I used Premiere Pro for years and I always found that it was the CPU that bottlenecked. I don't tend to use a lot of effects in videos, which is one reason why GPU usage wasn't too high for me. If your graphics card is the bottleneck, you could fix that by using an eGPU. What I will say, however, is that you need to weigh up all of your options. For the cash you'd pay for an eGPU and graphics card to go in it, you could sell your current laptop and use all the funds to get a new 12th Gen Intel laptop with a 3070 Ti, 3080 or 3080 ti. New XPS machines will be out in a few months too that should have better integrated GPUs.
@LuisGomes.
@LuisGomes. 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon correct, I will just wait a bit and probably sell my laptop to get the new one. it is a pain to work with some effects and my colours. thanks Kevin.. you are very nice person and it helped me a lot !
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'm in a similar situation just now. I use an XPS 13 for emails and writing articles etc, but the webcam isn't great and it's not powerful enough to edit videos. So I might replace it later this year. In the meantime, I want to get a gaming laptop that can handle everything and lets me play games when I'm not at home. A lot of interesting laptops coming out this year so could be a good year for an upgrade.
@Readwandx
@Readwandx Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why the egpu cases are damn expensive
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt hubs are quite expensive in general. The part that annoys me is the size of the eGPUs.
@jonathanwhitehead7378
@jonathanwhitehead7378 Жыл бұрын
Out of Curiosity I have an Alienware M15 R6 with a RTX 3060 GPU and an 11th Gen I7 processor with 32 gigs of ram I was interested in an EGPU and you said you also have an M15 what would you say is the performance boost on your laptop? I Was looking into get an RTX 4080 with an EGPU but I am afraid that the bottlenecks that'll occur would not be worth spending $1200
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan. There's a few things to consider. First thing to note is that there hasn't been any new egpus for a few years, so whilst new desktop GPUs may use pcie 4, you'll be using pcie 3. I think the drop in performance is similar at about 20-30%. So you could get 80% of the power of the 4080. There are some other factors to conside there such as the thunderbolt throughout etc (plus I'd look at others that have this setup to verify the numbers as I'm guestimating here). Depending on the 4080 card you buy, you may have to manually replace the PSU in the egpu so that supports the card. So that is a potential cost (though something you would check before buying the egpu or the GPU). In the UK, it would be around £150-£250 for the egpu (if buying used) and maybe £1,000 for the GPU (could be more). You'll get good performance with that. I suspect the CPU could be a bottleneck in many games, but it could be a quieter solution that just using the GPU in the laptop. There are pros to this setup, but I'd rather sell the Alienware laptop and put the £1,200+ towards a new gaming laptop. You'd get a 13th gen Intel CPU (or AMD equivalent), a better display and a newer mobile RTX 40 series GPU in the laptop. It's a more portable solution too. For me, that's the better option as you're upgrading everything, not just the GPU. Gaming laptops are all about balance between the CPU, GPU, display and fans etc. A newer gaming laptop will give you better performance across the board. If you already have a desktop 4080, well, an egpu is a great way to boost the performance from your laptop. Thanks. Kevin
@Luke-mw3wn
@Luke-mw3wn 4 жыл бұрын
great video,but i have an hp omen with an i7850h and 16gb ram but it has a GTX 1050,is a eGPU worth it?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
For the money you would spend on an eGPU setup, I think you would be better selling your laptop and putting the egpu funds towards a new laptop. Mine, for example, has a 2080. Which is more powerful than many eGPU GPU setups.
@Luke-mw3wn
@Luke-mw3wn 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.👍
@Kretzzz
@Kretzzz 4 жыл бұрын
Will i7-4600U (2-cores 4-threads 2.1Ghz 2.7Ghz turbo),2x4GB DDR3L RAM and GTX 1650 bottleneck? Because I tried i5 3470 and 1650 and it works perfectly
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Well it really depends on the app or the game you are trying to use. Every setup can be bottlenecked. That's an incredibly old system with the older memory standard, so the CPU will probably bottleneck before the GPU.
@totinospizzarolls4737
@totinospizzarolls4737 4 жыл бұрын
2 cores will be quite the bottleneck
@eduardoaguirre1960
@eduardoaguirre1960 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have seen this video sooner. Already bought a Core X w/ a 5700XT and realized the poor performance. Please make another video about this and title it "eGPU Setup" so that more people come across this information. People looking up eGPU set-ups have most likely already made up their minds about purchasing an eGPU.
@thanhavictus
@thanhavictus 4 жыл бұрын
What processor did you have, did it bottleneck you that bad?
@benBergma
@benBergma 3 жыл бұрын
I have razer 15 i7-9750H 1660ti gpu. My friend wants to sell his 2months old razer egpu for "friendly price" cos he got new desktop now. Pls advice me if im going to take it and if yes, what GPU you recommend sir? Btw, im a heavy gamer and i do video and photo editing as well. Thnk you
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
You would be able to improve performance, but you would have to spend a lot on the eGPU and a good GPU that gives you a major improvement over the 1660ti that is already there. At that point, there's a good argument for just upgrading your laptop.
@SaritaKumari-fy7co
@SaritaKumari-fy7co 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin I have ryzen 5 4600h laptop with 6cores 12 threads and gtx1650...I wanna upgrade to rtx2060 will it limit my gpu performance??
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you'd see a massive improvement for the money you'd be spending.
@SaritaKumari-fy7co
@SaritaKumari-fy7co 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon okay
@vickytech8983
@vickytech8983 3 жыл бұрын
Few days back i bought HP pavilion gaming 15 R5 4600H 8 Gb 3200mhz ram GTX 1650 GDDR6 initially i thought building a desktop but I'm a programmer so i need portability , now the weak point is the GPU in my laptop with in one year 1650 will appear in min req in upcoming games sys req
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're perhaps at the lower end of the graphical spectrum already. So are you thinking about an eGPU in the future?
@vickytech8983
@vickytech8983 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon yes .. I'm thinking .. but for atleast coming 4 years 1650 will handle game's at min 30fps ... after that eGpu may be needed .. i also saw some videos about connecting eGpu using m2 nvme slot !!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen some of those adapters too, but I've not had the need to buy one. I guess it depends on the games you're playing. 30FPS isn't going to cut it with first person shooters, but for other types of games it may be fine.
@vickytech8983
@vickytech8983 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon yes .. i like mostly open world games 🤞
@Blessindisguise
@Blessindisguise 3 жыл бұрын
I am interested in Redshift CUDA Rendering for Cinema 4D projects. This wasn't addressed. Guess I got to keep doing research.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
What's bottlenecking just now? Does the app make your CPU and GPU bottleneck?
@Blessindisguise
@Blessindisguise 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon not at all. Its so odd because when I render i have super brief GPU spikes but it stays fairly low... (but rendering is kind of slow still) CPU is like super low usage (well obviously) and RAM is just at 50% (mainly used by Google Chrome lol). I have the conceptD 7 Ezel.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with the app, but I know different apps utilise different resources. For my own needs, Premiere Pro is a complete CPU hog and only uses GPU for effects etc. Da Vinci Resolve uses less CPU, but more GPU. In your situation, I'm not sure how much additional GPU resources would help if it's not using much just now.
@benjaben1074
@benjaben1074 3 жыл бұрын
Hi my laptop has a ryzen 5 3500u and Ive been thinking of getting an eGPU. Im planning to buy an NVIDIA GPU probably between 1660 super to 2070 super. I will buy the glu to get it ready for my PC because Im saving up for now and I just want to game.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
I think you'd be better getting a laptop with a 30 series GPU (30XX laptops will be out in a few months).
@patrick3376
@patrick3376 4 жыл бұрын
There is an advantage when using intel icelake! thunderbolt 3 on icelake doesnt doesnt go throu the chipset, it runs throu the cpu. this gains more of a precentage of gpu usage through an egpu and thunderblot 3 using icelake! gains are about 20 to 27% higher than normal thunderbolt 3 with egpu!
@sendymcsend7907
@sendymcsend7907 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at a eGPU for my dell XPS 13 (ice lake i7-1065G7). Do you think it would run efficiently with a 2070 or a 2080?
@patrick3376
@patrick3376 4 жыл бұрын
@@sendymcsend7907 It will perfom very well especially to external monitor.. The only issue some have had is with intergrated graphics causing alot of problems. Simply go into device mng and disable the intel graphics driver and you will be fine!
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
That seems crazy to me as there few situations where you could use your GPU fully without bottlenecking the CPU.
@patrick3376
@patrick3376 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon yeah. It's a rather resourceful feature when using a egpu throu thunder bolt 3 on an Icelake cpu! anything using thunderbolt on icelake will be alot faster..
@inexperiencedknife
@inexperiencedknife 11 ай бұрын
Do you think a six-core CPU would bottleneck card with an eGPU? I got my laptop with a Intel Core i7-8750H in case I wanted to use an eGPU in a few years.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 11 ай бұрын
It will still bottle neck in some cases. It all depends on the game though. Some games are more CPU demanding than others.
@jaygonzalez5005
@jaygonzalez5005 4 жыл бұрын
Man I bought a Gigabyte Aero 15S OLED with a i7 9750H (newegg says it's a 6 core and gigabyte says it's an 8 so not sure, will know when it gets here), NVIDIA 1660 ti (not sure if it's Max-Q), 16gbs of ram and I had the intention of using an eGPU but with this I'm not sure if it's gonna be a good idea. It'll be mainly an editing set-up with casual gaming on the side.
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
That's a six core processor ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/191045/intel-core-i7-9750h-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-50-ghz.html You will be able to check your GPU when it arrives via system information etc. I reckon the 1660ti will be sufficient for your needs.
@jaygonzalez5005
@jaygonzalez5005 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon So you think I would be good without the eGPU? That it would be better to just to buy a Thunderbolt 3 docking station to all the peripherals so that when I get home I can just connect the laptop into it and keep working with them?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaygonzalez5005 well, it depends on your needs. I don't know what apps and games you're looking to run etc, but at the moment you'd spend setting up a good eGPU setup, you might be as well just buying a desktop pc. I would just see how you go with your laptop and see if you run into any bottlenecks.
@jamesrs30
@jamesrs30 4 жыл бұрын
I have a intel celeron n4100 what egpu is best for me plss answer
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, none. Your CPU will be the bottleneck in most situations.
@matthewlim1269
@matthewlim1269 3 жыл бұрын
what gpu is best compatible for celeron 1007U to avoid bottleneck?
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 3 жыл бұрын
Every celeron will bottleneck. Celerons are designed for basic tasks like browsing the internet. They aren't designed for intense apps etc.
@matthewlim1269
@matthewlim1269 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMuldoon Alright I thought i can upgrade my laptop to play some games..thankss kevvv :)
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