Simón Bolívar - Defeat is Not Surrender - Extra History - Part 4

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7 жыл бұрын

📜 History of Simón Bolívar, Part 4: Failure had taught Simón Bolívar one important lesson: no single state in Spanish South America could win independence alone. To succeed, he needed to form one great state, united and able to stand up to the might of Spain.
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@labrynianrebel
@labrynianrebel 7 жыл бұрын
*glaces at current map of S. America* ...this doesn't end well does it?
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
You got no idea, between Santander, Páez (the new leader of "the Legion of Hell") and Juan José Flores, That nation got split.
@blackearl7891
@blackearl7891 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Stuckey it probably wouldn't. South America relied heavily on agriculture which tend to be traditionalist. Agricultural economies were overtaken by countries that relied on heavy industries. South america huge natural resources and fertile lands has been its biggest curse. Not including its feudalistic systems which prefered wealthy landowners and prevented expansions of other industries, and landowners trying to influence politics for their own economical gains and you literally have the reason why south america had coups and slow progress in the 19th and early to mid 20th century. Just look at peruvian history for an example of how many coups its had.
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Stuckey blackearl7891 I actually think that Gran Colombia would have managed to become a rival to the US (it was already more powerful than the USA at the time, said by J. Quincy Adams back then), I know that the military coups made it look like it would have failed, but you must remember that, to have survived, then the presidencies would have been passed to men that could have made it go up (like José Antonio Sucre, Rafael Urdaneta, Mosquera, Vicente Rocafuerte, etc.) and industrialization would have happened eventually. What prevented Latin America from making the jump was always the unstability during the time of civil wars and the dictatorship that didn't cared for the country. Then we have presidents that had the desire and power to make the progress (Soublette, Ramón Castilla, Ramón Roca, Mosquera, etc.) but said progress was stopped by said dictator (José Tadeo Monagas, Juan José Flores, Vivanco, etc.) only to be brought back by another dictator (Guzmán Blanco, Andrés de Santa Cruz, among others). Had the Gran Colombia survived (and had a Federal Government system) then it would have been a rival to the USA.
@F14thunderhawk
@F14thunderhawk 7 жыл бұрын
its a neat idea, but that region just isnt good for Superpower status. America has virtually every strategic and economic resource available to it (same for Russia), and the most realistically usable farmland on the planet, while not being hampered by extreme weather conditions like canada, russia or China
@DreamerOfTheEnd
@DreamerOfTheEnd 7 жыл бұрын
It honestly wasn't a rival to the US nor was Gran Colombia capable of rivaling the US at that point in history. Gran Columbia had a stronger military, more plentiful natural resources and better access to naval trade, but it lacked the manufacturing capacity, financial institutions, political establishment (even when the Federal Government was weak, its states already administered themselves independently), democratic traditions or espirit de corp that the United States had already developed. In fact, the intense military strength was actually a huge problem for Gran Colombia since it smothered the political establishment (because why bother going through political hoops when a Caudillo can do the same thing ten times faster) and the military (which was run more or less independently by the ruling class) didn't have to make compromises with the public - furthering tensions between the ruling class and everyone else. The biggest problem with Latin America has never been its production capacity or its military strength - it's that it was never incentivized to make the short term sacrifices a state needs to develop lasting institutions.
@scivolanto
@scivolanto 7 жыл бұрын
Don't be surprised Bolivar was both a president and a dictator. At the time, the word "dictator" was very positive, and not at all opposed to republican values. It referred to the tradition of Roman Republic, when a dictator was a temporary chief of government with extended powers during a crisis (generally a war). Virtuous dictators like Cincinnatus were celebrated as models for leaders in the Antiquity. Only in the 20th century did the term dictatorship evolve to mean despotism.
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it were the Latin American dictators that came next the reason the word is so detested.
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
Arawanneɣ A serious problem for people.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 6 жыл бұрын
Its either a 'dictatorship' or a 'dicktatorship'
@Karlstan03
@Karlstan03 2 жыл бұрын
I’m late as hell but don’t forget Fabius!
@stopofinterests6159
@stopofinterests6159 2 жыл бұрын
In India we have a law that the prime minister could dissolve the parliament and become a dictator temporarily on times of war or crisis.
@anttibjorklund1869
@anttibjorklund1869 7 жыл бұрын
"Why let your current job of president get in the way of a good dictatorship?" And thus the history of not-so-pure Latin American presidents was born :P
@Didacmmv
@Didacmmv 7 жыл бұрын
It's not a matter of race intrinsically, it's about culture, and yes you could say white cultures are more civilized and you would be correct, we have the longest or maybe prolific civilized history on the planet, we have to find a way to jumpstart that same culture on the rest of the not so modernized, similar to what the british have done on your country
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 7 жыл бұрын
Youre quite incorrect. The western nations first are no real democracies but more republics. Furthermore, they dont function as they should aswell.
@edoardoagosti1969
@edoardoagosti1969 7 жыл бұрын
no, Mongolia regularly scores en par with western democracies on both Polity IV and Freedom House scales
@wyvernlord23
@wyvernlord23 7 жыл бұрын
Caribbean countries have been and are still capable of doing so.
@Didacmmv
@Didacmmv 7 жыл бұрын
+wyvernlord23 Sure, Haiti is the best example
@Hebdomad7
@Hebdomad7 7 жыл бұрын
Gregor mac Gregor... You could not get more stereotypical Scottish name than that... XD
@chrissmith3587
@chrissmith3587 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a war till a random eccentric British person turns up, usually a Scot
@marshalljarnagin9370
@marshalljarnagin9370 4 жыл бұрын
I think he was in a wtf 101 episode too...for making up an entire country.
@karry299
@karry299 2 жыл бұрын
You certainly could, since Gregory comes from Latin, therefore it's one of the least stereotypical Scottish names. Now, if he was called Angus mcAngus...
@Jrookus
@Jrookus Жыл бұрын
@@chrissmith3587 or some random poles
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 7 жыл бұрын
For those of you up on your South American history, you probably noticed San Martin is woefully absent from this episode; if you don't know about him and you dig Bolivar's story I'd recommend looking him up. I plan to mention this in Lies, but basically I originally had him in there but it ended up becoming 8 episodes long with two episodes where Bolivar basically didn't even show up ; _(. So, being a series on Bolivar, we looked at everything and decided San Martin's story would be better for another series or for a couple of one offs when we get a few shorter topics. -JP
@pizzapicante27
@pizzapicante27 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to San Martin (maybe Benito Juarez at a latter date?)
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 7 жыл бұрын
fair enough James, fair enough
@johannesjacome7539
@johannesjacome7539 7 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits Think you could do a series about the Mexican Independence? It's wasn't really one war, more like a bunch of different wars combined. I think It would be interesting giving the recent racial tensions in the U.S.
@LuckyBird551
@LuckyBird551 7 жыл бұрын
Not only San Martin, but Antonio Jose de Sucre seems to be missing as well, he was Bolivar's most trusted general and did a lot for his struggles for independence.
@LuckyBird551
@LuckyBird551 7 жыл бұрын
***** His armies liberated Bolivia, so, to honor him, the new formed country decided to change its name to Bolivia in his honor, and their capital as Sucre in honor of his second in command.
@polymphus
@polymphus 7 жыл бұрын
It's also important to note about Gregor MacGregor that he was one of the ballsiest conmen in history: he told people in Europe that he ruled a (fake) South American country, then sold them fake land that didn't exist. Many of them actually took the trip to South America and showed up in an unowned and undeveloped stretch of the Amazon where they died.
@highbread817
@highbread817 11 ай бұрын
Mad lad
@skeletonentertainment4201
@skeletonentertainment4201 3 ай бұрын
i remember seeing that story on WTF 101
@elsapenaloza6317
@elsapenaloza6317 2 ай бұрын
In Poyais the Nicaragua caribbean coast not in the Amazone forest
@henryt3301
@henryt3301 7 жыл бұрын
"Why let your current job as a democratic head of state get in the way of a good dictatorship?" Well, that's a sad way of talking about Venezuela presidents.
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
Sad way to talk about Latin America in General, we've become experts in dictatorships because we've seen them in all the possible ways. Too sad Extra Credits will never cover how this dictatorships came to be or how they acted, it would be an interesting topic. Example: The first dictatorship in Venezuela was democratically elected (José Tadeo Monagas) and his dictatorship officially started when he sent his men to assault the Congress and stop them from impeach him.
@mbenitez6722
@mbenitez6722 6 жыл бұрын
Good Dictatorship is possible but I believe its just extremely rare, modern dictatorship is nothing like ancient dictatorship but rather ancient tyrannies and harsh Dictatorship is part of S.A history :/
@thewizard7396
@thewizard7396 3 жыл бұрын
Dictatorships never last
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 7 жыл бұрын
Judging by Bolivar's lack of political finesse displayed in previous episodes and the lack of a Grand Colombia on today's map, I'm guessing Bolivar bungles the offer to bring Peru into his union.
@GodSlayingBunny
@GodSlayingBunny 7 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean yes but the rest are still in good terms with each other.
@kevinmiles5857
@kevinmiles5857 7 жыл бұрын
By the time he got to Peru, the country had already declared itself independent, and they also had their own head of state. In fact, when Bolivar anexed Quito and the surrounding lands, some people in Peru proposed to do the same with Guayaquil (which is a very important place, yet to be mentioned in this series). He defeated the remaining spaniards there and expelled them from South America, but it would be hard to make a country that just finished fighting for its independence embrace the idea of being anexed into GC.
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 7 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean If I recall correctly Grand Colombia was broken apart by the United States since they refused to allow them to build the Panama Canal
@tombking34
@tombking34 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, though they did end up in another union with Bolivia... Which was named after him. So I guess he won in that sense. How many people have countries named after them? Columbia is also an example, interestingly enough...
@sashaschneer2990
@sashaschneer2990 7 жыл бұрын
not quite true. the region of panama wanted independence from Columbia before hand and we offered to help their revolution in exchange for building a canal there.
@Elsenoromniano
@Elsenoromniano 7 жыл бұрын
For those who wish to know, the revolts in Spain came from a guy named Rafael del Riego, who when a large battalion was sent to suffocate the revolt in the America's with other generals, just decided, that "hey, we are here together, most of us really liked that Constitution of 1812, why don't we make that royal bastard sign it". And to put that in perspective, the king during the war of independence vowed to accept the 1812 Constitution in order to be proclaimed king after the Spanish war for independence , just to, as soon as he was crowned, rejected and persecute most of the people who wrote it or supported it. So people were kind of piss off with him, rightly so. And of course as soon as he was forced to sign it, he started plotting a return to absolute monarch status, with the help of other European kings. So maybe just make him sign the Constitution and hope that he would stay quiet, was not the best idea.
@horesfan400
@horesfan400 7 жыл бұрын
Ever wondered who helped Bolivar? It's simple, it was Walpole
@PixelyCeluloide
@PixelyCeluloide 7 жыл бұрын
Please, please, please tell me this isn't just a joke
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 7 жыл бұрын
PixeyCeluloide Walpole was long dead dead by this point, I'm afraid. Would be nice if he showed up in a later video though.
@PixelyCeluloide
@PixelyCeluloide 7 жыл бұрын
Sad. But it doesn't matter, with Walpole even when there isn't a connection, there is a connection.
@robertwalpole360
@robertwalpole360 7 жыл бұрын
Possibly. ;)
@robertwalpole360
@robertwalpole360 7 жыл бұрын
Who said I was dead?
@Sabrowsky
@Sabrowsky 7 жыл бұрын
gregor mcgregor, the moon moon of revolutionaries
@Wolf6119
@Wolf6119 7 жыл бұрын
And his devious Spanish counterpart, Captain General Pablo Morillo y Morillo
@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158
@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158 7 жыл бұрын
2:50 EXTREEEEEME BAGPIPING
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 7 жыл бұрын
[SCOTSMAN INTENSIFIES]
@laurensHD
@laurensHD 7 жыл бұрын
*BAGPIPING INTENSIFIES*
@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158
@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158 7 жыл бұрын
GreyWolfLeaderTW Bagpipe > Claymore
@iiiiitsmagreta1240
@iiiiitsmagreta1240 7 жыл бұрын
You really need to do something on the Haitian Revolution at some point.
@lilrichardseddon
@lilrichardseddon 5 жыл бұрын
Mattias Westby the podcast revolutions has done a series on the Haitian revolution
@franciscomm7675
@franciscomm7675 5 жыл бұрын
Jabzy did some great videos about the haitian revolution and its phases, like the war of the knifes
@thehistorianjt3929
@thehistorianjt3929 3 жыл бұрын
You got your wish
@williamheayn3760
@williamheayn3760 7 жыл бұрын
Bolivar just never gives up, does he? sounds like a proper Roman, in that sense!
@PurpleRelic
@PurpleRelic 7 жыл бұрын
40 Mins ago on a vid that was posted 3 mins ago... seems legit.
@namelastname5844
@namelastname5844 7 жыл бұрын
Cooper Lake ye
@icemario19
@icemario19 7 жыл бұрын
Patrons get to watch the video early
@Alex1jag
@Alex1jag 7 жыл бұрын
The videos get posted for patreons on Fridays.
@IntrusiveThot420
@IntrusiveThot420 7 жыл бұрын
So is the story of Bolivar basically him being rich and famous enough to keep trying and failing until he succeeded?
@miniondaechir
@miniondaechir 7 жыл бұрын
Warcrimes incarnate to be fair, he wasn't rich the whole time, seeing as he had to flee from the Spanish at least 3 times, penniless, no? and fame can work both ways, hehe
@IntrusiveThot420
@IntrusiveThot420 7 жыл бұрын
Minion Daechir completely fair, it takes a certain caliber of badassery to keep going at a problem like Bolivar did.
@miniondaechir
@miniondaechir 7 жыл бұрын
Warcrimes incarnate all too true, amigo, haha
@TheIbney00
@TheIbney00 7 жыл бұрын
What I think makes this series great is that it is not about a man who seems like a myth. Bolivar has his faults. He makes mistakes, he doesn't always win, and he is an idealist. But what is great is he never gives up, and he learns from every battle. Admiral Yi and his series will always be my favorite, but this one will hold a special place in my heart.
@airmanon7213
@airmanon7213 7 жыл бұрын
Heh, "Why let X get in the way of Y" returns yet AGAIN!
@MegaRadomstuff
@MegaRadomstuff 7 жыл бұрын
Greagor Macgreagor is my spirit animal
@azelfdaboi5265
@azelfdaboi5265 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@lilthrall
@lilthrall 7 жыл бұрын
I have binge watched the entire Extra History playlist. I have never had an interest in history before this. Thanks for making it a good story. Suddenly I care a lot about history!
7 жыл бұрын
This!
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 7 жыл бұрын
To win independence for Venezuela, Simón Bolívar realized he needed to free all of South America from Spanish rule.
@dariuscarter5758
@dariuscarter5758 7 жыл бұрын
Dis Video is neat
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
1.- si-MON bo-LEE-Var. 2.- You skipped Páez (the new leader of the "Legion of Hell" (By this point they weren't any longer called that, that name was only given while they were led by Boves) and Sucre (Bolívar's non-blood son and who was loved by Bolivia and Ecuador), how dare you? 3.- You added the Essequibo for only one moment. 4.- Income the Argetinians getting angry for not seeing San Martín in here.
@alexmann152
@alexmann152 7 жыл бұрын
You're my fav
@vicenteformisano3301
@vicenteformisano3301 7 жыл бұрын
Guy could you do and extra history about San Martin, him and Bolivar freed South America and i think it would be a great follow up
@themindstream
@themindstream 7 жыл бұрын
If I may: The question you're asking is flawed. If you expect to go into programing for a living, you are going to inevitably need to learn multiple languages. If you want to make a game yourself, you can make one in any language (and if you're looking to go into the industry, a portfolio of projects matters). If your goal is to get hired by a AAA company as a programmer you're going to need to know the big ones: C++, Java/C# (they are very similar to each other, C# probably has an edge with Unity being a big thing) and one or more of the common scripting languages (Lua, Python, Ruby, Javascript, etc). If you want to do mobile games, Java (for Android) and Objective C/Swift (for iOS) are your main targets. For the web, Javascript, HTML/CSS and PHP come into play with some Python/Ruby/ASP. Learning any language will help you when it comes to learning any other language. If you're a complete newbie, I reccomend Python + Pygame, grabbing a book and/or tutorials for the same. C# and MonoGame is another possible starting point and will give you a head start on games for Unity if you go that route.
@manuymade
@manuymade 7 жыл бұрын
as a colombian who never had to study latin american history (bc i've done all my schooling internationally) this series is refreshing since it shows a more complicated bolivar. to the ignorant (like me) he is akin to jesus in greatness. a truly flawless leader, but this really shows he was just a human and puts him into perspective. thanks
@mestre12
@mestre12 7 жыл бұрын
Gregor Mc Gregor? Now i get the Botty Mc Botty joke.
@CarlosRios1
@CarlosRios1 6 жыл бұрын
*Boatey McBoatface
@Dustz92
@Dustz92 6 жыл бұрын
They need to make an episode on the guy, his life is actually amazing
@stitchedpumpkin5905
@stitchedpumpkin5905 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who never learned a thing about any of this, I really appreciate how organized and focused the series is, that it's kept straight and to the point. I recognize that history is fluidly affected by other surrounding people and actions but... seriously... this was complex enough as a new topic... Linking individual stories is easier for me to conceptualize than watching all ten unfold at once. I'd lose track. All in all, this mini series was really well put together.
@rutger5000
@rutger5000 7 жыл бұрын
Nice you've gotten a why let x stand in the way of y as a catch phrase.
@tinyman1144
@tinyman1144 7 жыл бұрын
It just wouldn't be a post-crusade EH series without one
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
1.- si-MON bo-LEE-Var. 2.- You skipped Páez and Sucre, how dare you? 3.- You added the Essequibo for only one moment. 4.- Income the Argetinians getting angry for not seeing San Martín in here.
@maximilianopena
@maximilianopena 7 жыл бұрын
A fear angry, tough technically the Chilean government was paying for almost all that expedition thing so...
@wolfpytlak2786
@wolfpytlak2786 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! If we don't appear now nobody is going to know what it's south of Peru! /s...? (i'm not actually sure how much this is a joke)
@rarapotatof6908
@rarapotatof6908 7 жыл бұрын
Lucciano Bartolini k
@mrhose3577
@mrhose3577 6 жыл бұрын
Lucciano Bartolini Calm down mate! I know he's not putting the accents where they should be, but what can you expect from someone who probably has no prior knowledge in Spanish? I'm Venezuelan and I'm just happy that he knows about our hero.
@nathanbruce1992
@nathanbruce1992 5 жыл бұрын
Belagile: you seem cool
@artios162
@artios162 7 жыл бұрын
This guy jump turn from a bad to not so bad to very bad to good and decent guy in just a few years
@Simte
@Simte 7 жыл бұрын
Great teaching resources that I've implemented in my EFL classroom here in Colombia.
@eyuin5716
@eyuin5716 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do your next series on José de San Martín please?
@Yggi11
@Yggi11 7 жыл бұрын
There's something really funny about Bolivar shouting "Attack!" from bed.
@XanderVJ
@XanderVJ 7 жыл бұрын
0:27 Huh? Well, that's awkward. In Spain what they teach us in history class is that Britain (and Portugal) had helped, yes, but it was mostly an internal endeavor. We even call it the "Spanish War of Independence". As a matter of fact, the civilian uprising was one of the most decisive factors. The word "guerrilla" (which is Spanish for "little war") was coined in this very same war because of it. I think the British role in the liberation of Spain, rather than in Spanish soil, came more from the victories they were having along the other European nations in other fronts, which were weakening Napoleon as a whole. I'm not saying that Britain's role in liberating Spain from Napoleon was insignificant, far from it. But you have made it look as if they kicked him from the country on their own, as if Spain itself did little to nothing.
@juanpablomina1346
@juanpablomina1346 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I have no idea about that, but it's very interesting!
@wschippr1
@wschippr1 7 жыл бұрын
XanderVJ Guess it depends on perspective. Who was the major reason for it? The people that actually accomplished it or the people that made it feasible to do in the first place? Difficult question.
@cseijifja
@cseijifja 2 жыл бұрын
of coruse they wont tell you britain was decisive, an afront against national honor. The "guerrilla" tied up armies, but the real liberation was fo course done by the british army, you still nede to win battles and siegue cities in the napoleonic period.
@aurtekdiedlol
@aurtekdiedlol 5 жыл бұрын
The Simon Bolivar episodes are getting me through my entire research project. Thank you guys at Extra Credits SO MUCH!
@alaozarmg459
@alaozarmg459 7 жыл бұрын
I found this channel a few hours ago... I am bingewatching these and I'd love to see Argentinian history told like this, from the point of view of José de San Martín or maybe Guillermo Brown in one of the best naval battles of southamerican history
@GeoPol01
@GeoPol01 7 жыл бұрын
Always stop to let your men pick up mistresses
@juanmanuelgonzalez4135
@juanmanuelgonzalez4135 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do an episode about the independence of Mexico or other latinamerican countries?
@Sahil-oq8ki
@Sahil-oq8ki 7 жыл бұрын
juan manuel gonzalez I would like to see something of how France tried to establish a monarchy in Mexico (with a *habsburg* at the helm) and how they got crushed by the republic.
@user-db7vy8sf2h
@user-db7vy8sf2h 7 жыл бұрын
Mexico and Argentina are very similar to Bolivar history. (And Brazil had a boring independance) But will be cool se Haitian Revolution and Cuban revolution :P
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm 7 жыл бұрын
Brazil didn't had a boring independence. Sure it was less bloody than Venezuela's, but they had an very different history than the rest of Latin America, with only Eurpean monarchy that actually settle there, the only one that become a true empire with two interestin Emperors
@user-db7vy8sf2h
@user-db7vy8sf2h 7 жыл бұрын
María, Brazilian independence can be better to Brazil keep united and strong after. But was rly boring. The son of king of Portugal became king of Brazil, and after he back to portugal to be king of portugal...
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm 7 жыл бұрын
I know, there wasn't many epic battles and it wasn't a bloodshed as it was in Venezuela. However, I do believe that you can tell the story Brazil independence though Pedro I of Brazil and VI of Portugal as a family drama: we have a good but weak father (Joao V), an evil mother with a sad past (Carlota Joaquina de Borbon), a evil brother (Miguel), a his competent wife that he didn't appreciate (Leopoldina of Austria), the femme fatale that paved his way to his down fall (Domitilia), the fight for the rights of his beloved dauther to rule Portugal (Maria da Gloria) and the hint the greatness of the son that barely knew for the next video (Pedro II of Brazil)
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 7 жыл бұрын
Poor San Martin got left out!
@23iloveanime
@23iloveanime 7 жыл бұрын
In the interview in Guayaquil, San Martin gave his troops to Bolivar, as he was tired of the whole matter of the war. According to Simon Bolivar San Martin did not have the necessary strength to complete the independence of South america. So although San Martin was a key piece for the liberation of Argentina and Peru, the true liberator of South America was Bolivar.
@Yama_no_Kitsune
@Yama_no_Kitsune 7 жыл бұрын
I guess Rodrigo refers to the fact that San Martín was key in the Liberation of Perú. He was, after all, the first "Supreme Protector" of Perú after the liberation of Lima, from 1821 to 1822. It wasn't until 1824 that Bolivar took office there and the Peruvian Congress named him Dictator.
@MyChico333
@MyChico333 7 жыл бұрын
+23iloveanime guess Argentina and Peru are not part of South America?
@Yama_no_Kitsune
@Yama_no_Kitsune 7 жыл бұрын
MyChico333 Or Chile for that matter...
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 7 жыл бұрын
+23iloveanime Regardless of Bolivar's opinion of him, Sam Martin still had the cooler sword.
@davidbishop9336
@davidbishop9336 7 жыл бұрын
These little history lessons are the best thing I have discovered this year. I love them. Great for long or short car trips in my Roof Inspections business in Melbourne. David Bishop (Blue Sky Roof Inspections).
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam 7 жыл бұрын
3:39 "Rather than focusing on the big cities, he had to win the countrysides." Too soon :L Edit - I get the feeling I'm going to be saying this a lot: it's *wordplay,* guys, I'm not saying revolution is the same as an election.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's a good comparison. There's a big difference between quirks of an electoral system and winning support for a revolution.
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam 7 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about the connotation, not literal revolution.
@andersonandrighi4539
@andersonandrighi4539 7 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind that people in the 1800's Spanish America (US too) lived in the countryside. Sure the city was the political prowess of any kingdom/republic/colony. The population however resided mostly in farms.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 7 жыл бұрын
I hate trump but this was hilarious XD
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 7 жыл бұрын
Ognjen Garić XD
@JrgeLb
@JrgeLb 7 жыл бұрын
"middle of South American winter" two mistakes there, the first Colombia (former New Granada) is mostly on the northern hemisphere. But the real issue is that that close to the equator there are no seasons other than the rainy and dry season which we call winter and summer respectively, but have nothing to do with the "real" seasons caused by the tilt of the Earth's axis.
@JrgeLb
@JrgeLb 7 жыл бұрын
Also the capital of New Granada was called in that time Santafé and was renamed Bogotá with the creation of the Republic.
@JrgeLb
@JrgeLb 7 жыл бұрын
I am also having trouble with this "three nations coming together thing" to form the Great Colombia they where all, previous to their independence, part of the Viceroyalty of New Granada. Although the Audience of Quito and Capitany of Venezuela where autonomous they where nominally at least, one jurisdiction of the Spanish Empire before Bolivar "united them" as one. The independence more or less helped drive them apart in the en INTO different countries or states. Nations I think is the wrong terms to use, specially referring to administrative sub structures that where this Audiences that where part of a Viceroyalty that was part of one Empire.
@JrgeLb
@JrgeLb 7 жыл бұрын
Perú on the other hand was it's own Viceroyalty of which the Viceroyalty of New Granada and The Rio de la Plata used to be a part of until they became their own administrative regions. It was also the most important one of all with a court that rivaled the one in Madrid, and still I wouldn't call it (in that point in time) a different nation or country as before the independence all the overseas lands of Spain, where part of Spain, and therefore they where all in a sense Spanish or at least, all where subjects of the Spanish crown. I would say that this territories became Nation States after the influence of the ideals of the Enlightenment and to talk about them as such before their independence is in short, wrong.
@JrgeLb
@JrgeLb 7 жыл бұрын
sorry for the long post, love the show
@JrgeLb
@JrgeLb 7 жыл бұрын
also curious to know if you are going to talk about the massacres in Pasto
@carlosgirardot7566
@carlosgirardot7566 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, you guys. There hasn't been an episode of Extra History yet that I haven't enjoyed. Keep up the good work as I can't wait to see the next episode!!
@MrGregory777
@MrGregory777 7 жыл бұрын
Gregor MacGregor, a Scotsman, you don't say.
@sion8
@sion8 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you guys mentioned Haiti! I don't think when I was in Colombia was I ever thought about that part, it wasn't until years later that I read about that on my on in the U.S. all of it such an interesting history.
@tsancio
@tsancio 7 жыл бұрын
"July: in the middle of South American winter" Oops, Venezuela and Colombia and both north of the Equator. Great series, BTW. Love it.
@Binyamin.Tsadik
@Binyamin.Tsadik 7 жыл бұрын
One of the least known wars outside of Canada = The War of 1812. Make an episode please?
@rarapotatof6908
@rarapotatof6908 7 жыл бұрын
Binyamin Tsadik You mean one of the most know! World War Two is the least
@justin764
@justin764 4 жыл бұрын
2:47 Hold up, ain’t that the guy who also tricked british investors into thinking there was some island called Poyais?
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 5 жыл бұрын
I thank you guys for this stuff. I'm into history but I most just know stuff from the 20th century. Not into the older stuff but it's still interesting to listen to.
@TheGreatLordApples
@TheGreatLordApples 7 жыл бұрын
I love how the royalists are becoming unsewn, literally,.
@Index145
@Index145 7 жыл бұрын
Apples fun fact. Most of the royalist are indigenous people who hated (criollos) spanish people born in Southamericas...
@vicentetemes5793
@vicentetemes5793 7 жыл бұрын
I have a few problems with this episodes. Firstly, England didn't quite kick Napoleon out of Spain; sure, Spain alone couldn't have won, but it was a majoritarily civilian endeavor. For more information, and as a basis for future episodes, spanish writer Perez Galdos wrote "The National Episodes", a series of novels detailing important moments in spanish history.
@SentoB
@SentoB 7 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see some history on Haiti, keep up le good work!
@vincentgaulin6663
@vincentgaulin6663 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and entertaining as always! Thanks!
@TheEasyname23
@TheEasyname23 4 жыл бұрын
“Your welcome” -Haiti
@laurensHD
@laurensHD 7 жыл бұрын
I'd never thought I'd the history of my country in Extra History. Thank you guys
@hectorsjourneys8249
@hectorsjourneys8249 7 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits i´m venezuelan and i finnaly found a channel to talk about our history as a country so thank you soo much for talking about one of our greatest leaders in our history it means a lot ;D
@Bootrick33
@Bootrick33 7 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing series! I had heard the name Simon Bolivar before, but I never knew the story.
@countinglampposts
@countinglampposts 7 жыл бұрын
I think the battle of Pinchincha near Quito took place 3500m above sea level (11,400 ft), not 3500ft like what was said in this video. Great video! Keep them coming.
@kitbash6430
@kitbash6430 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite yt channel
@VolcyThoughts
@VolcyThoughts 7 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits - I really hope you guys do the Haitian revolution. Alexander Petion who's mentioned in this episode is a legend in Haitian history and is huge to our culture. It'll be an honor to see it on this channel
@AndyG94
@AndyG94 7 жыл бұрын
8:56 I loved this!
@Jobsih
@Jobsih 7 жыл бұрын
In 1:18 Mexico is missing territory (Texas, California, New Mexico, etc.)
@dominicguye8058
@dominicguye8058 5 жыл бұрын
Great. More Lies.
@davehoffman4659
@davehoffman4659 5 жыл бұрын
Dominic Guye what do you mean?
@Nipah.Auauau
@Nipah.Auauau 7 жыл бұрын
This is just straight-up a Mount&Blade campaign without the save scumming.
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 4 жыл бұрын
If I was from Scotland and I had a son, I would name him Gregor McGregor too. Who wouldn't?
@mister_i9245
@mister_i9245 7 жыл бұрын
Yay, a new one!
@dzarko55
@dzarko55 7 жыл бұрын
8:50 the word "dictatorship" didn't really mean the same back then though...
@MrHistory269
@MrHistory269 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah back then people thought of if the way the romans did during the republic era
@georgewashington335
@georgewashington335 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHistory269 yeah like a strong leader who takes power under responsibility. Now dictator changed completely.
@toonblade4231
@toonblade4231 7 жыл бұрын
Man, this is good. Hearing about my country's past and origins, especially how Bolívar took my home city, it was interesting to listen. You guys are doing a really good job. Any chance you guys might do an Extra History on Che Guevara?
@uterabia214
@uterabia214 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and cool as always. However, since this is the History of my country, I feel that certain precisions must be made (I am Colombian). Mostly regarding Francisco de Paula Santander (Colombian). It is true that the relationship between Bolivar and Santander didn't go well, but it wasn't always like that. In fact: a. Santander was not the ruler of New Granada during the 1810s, in fact New Granada (present day Colombia) was in a civil war between 1811 and 1816 (a term that is known as "la Patria Boba" - The silly country) betwen federalist and unitaries. So saying that he did not support Bolívar just cuz is not true (In fact Bolivar has asked him to protect the valley of Cucuta - border with Venezuela) in 1813. b. Santander was the second in command during the liberation campaign in New Granada, he was fundamental in the victories of the two most important battles in the Campaign (Battle of Pantano de Vargas and Battle of Boyacá). In fact it is he who sorrounded the spanish troops in the second battle, capturing the Spanish general and ordering his execution (it is said that Jose María Barreiro, the Spanish general, asked forgiveness claiming the he was a mason, like Santander, but he still ordered his execution climaing that a man is first a citizen, and then a mason). c. While Bolívar was campaigning in Venezuela, Quito, Perú and (as we will see in future episodes I guess) Bolivia, Santander was vice president, in charge of government and responsible of supplying Bolívar with troops, weapons and ammunition (a difficult task since, according to the Constitution of 1821, this was only applicable during internal strife, and not for foreign wars, so Santander had always to justify this supply before Congress). In fact, without this help, I don't think Bolívar could have liberated these teritories. d. Things started to go sour between Bolívar and Santander for ideological purposes. While Santander supported a more federal State, with autonomy (not independence) for New Granada, Venezuela and Quito, Bolívar supported a centralized State, WITH A PRESIDENT FOR LIFE (kinda of a dictatorship if you ask me). This conflict derived in to an attempt of assasination of Bolívar and, although, never proven, and during a trial that violated due procedure, Santander was implicated and condemned to death. The penalty was commuted to exile in the end. During his last years, Bolívar commented that "not fixing his relationship with Santander eventually damaged the country" as Venezuela and Quito proclaimed independence. e. FInally, Santander became the second president of Colombia, made liberal policies and was in charge of restablishing the new State. He rejected the idea of being reelected in 1837. I write all this because I have the awful feeling that Santander is going to be portrayed as the bad guy of this story, while he really was not. He was invaluable for the liberation campaign and, his conflict with Bolívar with came from ideological ideas on the ruling of the country. I love these series, and I am glad that EC is narrating this story, but please, keep a perspective of every person who acted in these events.
@ashtoncole3225
@ashtoncole3225 5 жыл бұрын
8:55 nice call back to the first crusade episode XD
@eztoindajar
@eztoindajar 6 жыл бұрын
Great series. You should do one about Lautaro!
@thetruephoenixful
@thetruephoenixful 5 жыл бұрын
What I like about bolivar is he's a man that didn't let defeat beat him. He shows what force of will can do
@andresmurillo551
@andresmurillo551 7 жыл бұрын
Short comment: The task of Bolivar crossing the Andes (and many others in the Independence War in Colombia) is so respected, that is part of our national anthem: Bolívar cruza el Andes Que riega dos océanos Espadas cual centellas Fulguran en Junín. Centauros indomables Descienden a los llanos Y empieza a presentirse De la epopeya el fin In english (someone surely can provide a better translation) Bolívar crosses the Andes Bathing two oceans Swords like Sparks Shine in Junín. Indomitable Centaurus (Aka Legion of Hell) Raid to the plains Descienden a los llanos And it is began to foretell of the epopeya the end
@andresmurillo551
@andresmurillo551 7 жыл бұрын
#btw you kinda show Santander as an evil commander. The rivarly between Bolivar and Santander is epic and historic, and people today in my country still "choose bands" about who is not a cold blooded snake. But Santander coined a phrase that I find beatiful, the very day that the Gran Colombia was stablished: "Colombianos, las armas os han dado la independencia, pero solo las leyes os darán la libertad" "Weapons have given you independence, but only the law will grant you freedom"
@TheEnergeticPanda
@TheEnergeticPanda 7 жыл бұрын
I really hope ExtraCredits never cover the Napoleonic Wars. There is so much stuff about it but there is nothing of this quality on other topics (like the South Sea Bubble or Simon Bolivar). I love this series because its so unique and talks about history not often taught or easily available
@torkelsvenson6411
@torkelsvenson6411 5 жыл бұрын
Do a series about the 30 Years War! :D
@Lightspeeds
@Lightspeeds 7 жыл бұрын
Bolivar's story is on par with Admiral Yi, but with much of Belisarius's fall.
@henryt3301
@henryt3301 7 жыл бұрын
Sad, even our country's greatest hero became something bad along the way.
@emperorbelisarius7380
@emperorbelisarius7380 7 жыл бұрын
Belisarius's fall? Pray tell what you are referring to.
@Giulionegri01
@Giulionegri01 5 жыл бұрын
You seriously got me scaried at minute 2:00
@th3highwayman
@th3highwayman 7 жыл бұрын
I've never seen an Extra History episode 3 minutes after upload.
@marcocoletta5101
@marcocoletta5101 7 жыл бұрын
Loving this series, seeing as revolutionaries are popular any chance of seeing a series on Giuseppe Garibaldi?
@gooscarguitar
@gooscarguitar 7 жыл бұрын
They've already got the next few series decided, it's voted on by Patreon donors. Catherine the Great is next, then Ned Kelly and the Chain Gang.
@beatthegreat7020
@beatthegreat7020 5 жыл бұрын
I’m playing EU4 right now and you’re really freaking me out.
@luckiestduckling2997
@luckiestduckling2997 2 жыл бұрын
Simon bolivar the master of the drop.
@kingfree4382
@kingfree4382 7 жыл бұрын
You should talk more about Santander, he has an important role in the formation and fall of Gran Colombia.
@ipadair7345
@ipadair7345 7 жыл бұрын
New episode!
@RafaelOrtizZableh
@RafaelOrtizZableh 7 жыл бұрын
It's cool that you're doing this. I just have one correction to make. When Quito, Nueva Granada and Venezuela united, the name picked for the country was (plain) Colombia, not Gran Colombia. The term was created by historians years later, to differentiate it from the current Republic of Colombia.
@xarlev
@xarlev 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure James will talk about this in Lies, but (according to Wikipedia) Gran Colombia is a name used by modern historians to differentiate it from modern Colombia, but at the time Bolivar just called it Colombia
@abdqs853
@abdqs853 Жыл бұрын
He was a surprisingly able commander 😆
@kevinsimm4626
@kevinsimm4626 2 жыл бұрын
I love the captions. Battle of "Kara Bobo"
@manuc.260
@manuc.260 7 жыл бұрын
July is not technically the middle of south american winter. It is the middle of the winter in the southern hemisphere, but New Granada is definitely not in the southern hemisphere (it is just north of the correctly named Ecuador as we can see right here).
@thebeesknees1162
@thebeesknees1162 7 жыл бұрын
Simón is a legend.
@Falarson92
@Falarson92 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure how everyone else feels on this topic, but War of the Triple Alliance is a worthwile subject for Extra History, IMHO. I would love to see it explored in this format and also see how all the accounts of the war conflict with each other lol
@Kwad_rat
@Kwad_rat 7 жыл бұрын
I realized that your videos are choppy enough that I can render my video and still watch a show without a drop in quality of an episode.
@guillermolandeovillanueva5434
@guillermolandeovillanueva5434 7 жыл бұрын
you are forgoting to mention the rol of the general Jose de San Martin in the emancipation of Peru, and the other half of the continent. Bolivar didn't have a so important rol in Peru until after San Martin failed to stabish a Peruvian kingdom
@EpionZX
@EpionZX 7 жыл бұрын
Batalla de Ayacucho papa
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 7 жыл бұрын
The battle that completely liberated Perú (and Bolivia) was done by Bolívar, not San Martín.
@EpionZX
@EpionZX 7 жыл бұрын
exactamente, gracias, como venezolano me duele que algunos peruanos no reconozcan la labor de Bolivar y Sucre es increíble como a través de estos siglos todavía existan esos resentimientos y rencillas
@guillermolandeovillanueva5434
@guillermolandeovillanueva5434 7 жыл бұрын
no es que no reconozcamos el aporte de Bolivar a la causa independentista. Tan solo me parece que corresponde mencionar tambien a San Martin, cuya gesta no se menciona. Es importante señalar que el papel de Bolivar en la independencia peruana fue posterior, no fue hasta la entrevista de Guayaquil donde se puso fin a la idea de un reino latinoamericano de San Martín y se empezó a trabajar el modelo republicano.
@EpionZX
@EpionZX 7 жыл бұрын
vale, entiendo mejor tu punto de vista, saludos y un abrazo
@Pocket-Calculator
@Pocket-Calculator 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, as always. The only problems is that Venezuela's map is totally wrong. During Bolívar's lifetime, Venezuela had more terrain. IIRC it was at the beggining of the XX century that Colombia, Brasil and the United Kingdom stole/bargained for Venezuela's territory and claimed it as their own. Also, July is not "winter" in Venezuela or Colombia, it's summer. Well, "summer", technically some months are colder than others and that's it. The countries at the south of South America do get their cold season at July, but not the ones at the north of South America.
@Borderose
@Borderose 7 жыл бұрын
Do a series on Escobar.
@lesterthemolesterjester8453
@lesterthemolesterjester8453 7 жыл бұрын
You should do one about Genghis khan's early life, people have heard if him and his armies but never his life that turned him into the man he was.
@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer
@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer 7 жыл бұрын
Obviously we kjnow the spoiler here, state building doesn't make a unified state.
@freakymoejoe2
@freakymoejoe2 7 жыл бұрын
I think the best way to describe Bolivar's lifelong quest for revolution lies with these two words: Clown. Fiesta.
@perfectloser55
@perfectloser55 7 жыл бұрын
Would you guys ever do an Extra History about arts? Maybe music?
@paualamar
@paualamar 7 жыл бұрын
I hope i spell it right, im going by memory here... Francois Dominique Tousant, he had a very important role in the Haití Revolution.
@Drvelasco45
@Drvelasco45 7 жыл бұрын
2 things: july is winter in south america, but only in the subtropical southern region ( chile argentina and uruguay. The rest is tropical, hence winter is usually the rainy season. Nontheless the andes mountains are usually winter cold all year long in the highest places. 2nd: the last drawing of the newly conquered Peru is a bit inacurate, since back then bolivia was also part of peru (called alto peru) and was also won at the last battle you mentioned.
@fidmarcano5841
@fidmarcano5841 7 жыл бұрын
Diego Velasco actually the Andes have snow, here in Venezuela we have snow in Merida state, and we are easily the hottest south american nation... let alone Colombia, Ecuador and Peru that are higher
@everothnyesh9340
@everothnyesh9340 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent spanish pronunciation, except for one part i noticed. Criollo, its spelled more like "Kree o llo." but great job. Id love to voice for an episode if you ever do Morelos or Hidalgo for Mexico, i love the subject since my dad taught me a lot since i was a kid and id be happy to put time aside to help people study such an sad and heartening topics.
@silviustaicut2267
@silviustaicut2267 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a series on the 19th century Balkans
@CCRoxtar
@CCRoxtar 5 жыл бұрын
8:48 Peru was liberated partly by Jose Francisco de San Martin (wanna make a series of vids about him, BTW?) who had driven the Spanish out of Argentina & Chile. San Martin & Bolivar conferred in the city of Guayaquil in present-day Ecuador; the outcome of that conference was that San Martin stepped aside so Bolivar could finish liberating Peru.
@hagamablabla
@hagamablabla 7 жыл бұрын
The story of these revolutions is a prime example of how history doesn't exist in a vacuum. Many people know that Wellesley liberated the Spanish from the French, but it's not often connected to the South American revolutions.
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