Please change your perfil image kkkk

matheus imon perfil?

just a MCPE Redstoner hello fellow mcpe redstoner

Jim: Imagine if there was a "mopping" up after a battle.

+Cule Chick yeah, I laughed out loud at that.

+scottrob0 he fought with all weapons he had XD

+Cule Chick Furor Teutonicus

As a fun side note that is often missed: the battle at Kursk was by itself larger than the entire Western Front. I forget the precise numbers, but something like ten million people fought at Kursk. The single largest battle of the Western Front was fought at Bastogne, and only half a million men fought there.

What do you require of me?

initial D. Music plays in the background Deja Vu I've just been in this tank before blowing up your Armor !

@@MRROSARY93 GuP

Just like with the plane-tank

Ave, Caesar! Ave me

+PitLord777 Agreed.

one crazy naked man is scary but he would lose against 3 million crazy men

Shix Lo Sounds about right, after all who can stop the fanatic combined with the stalwart? Eastern front is one of the fiercest battles ever known in the entire war.

loved that part

true.

soldier:" Uh copy that sir! You heard him boys!

Frank okay sir.

Defense to the grave

@@a_human8489 I love your profile pic

@@a_human8489 your profile pic is very based

Bruh

God fuckin damnit

hits blunt: woah

+silentkiller2mm I'm surprised that stuff hasn't come up in more games. It seems designed to be a unreliable power-up or the source of a boss's advantage.

+l0stndamned cant be included. Blatant drug usage.

mounne13 Well in Far Cry 3, drugs were used to strengthen the character, in a similar way

Just like plasmids in Bioshock. But those were "drugs" and not actually labeled as any real drugs. Since the Germans used actual Methamphetamine, and how modern games likes to sugar coat everything these days. It would probably be renamed, or omitted entirely if historical accuracy is one of the developer's angles.

+silentkiller2mm Ya he was definitely high during that charge.

rad vid

Can you do a series on the reqoncista? It's rarely talked about and I feel like there could be some good stories in there from both the Christian and Muslim sides.

If you going to call the SS warcriminals you must not forget that the russians had a great number of criminals asswell.Never forget in that during the war there were no good or bad they all have their good number of "warcriminals" and fanatics, also if Joachim did all that than he was abadass you gotta admit that.

+Bálint Fábri badass? you mean bare ass. :P

+Robo Historian As someone who had never heard of this before now, I also think this would be an excellent bit of history to talk about.

you mean that Totaller Kreig speech given by Joseph Goebells?

Owl _ sabaton my dude :)

Where i hide my tank destroyer in the bush while sniping LTs coming from the ridge line, wait, wrong game.

Driving back the Germans fighting on four fronts, hunt them out of Russia out of Soviet land!

THE END OF THE 3RD REICH GROWS NEAR ITS TIME HAS COME TO AN END THE END OF AN ERA GROWS NEAR IT'S TIME TO ATTACK

Nathaniel Sparrow it’s song lyrics you sad little man

+Comrade Yui No, definitely not. I like both equally but you are definitely not the only one who prefers the history episodes.

I come for both, whatever floats your boat.

+Comrade Yui That only thing wrong is that you have to ask random youtubers to tell you what is right and wrong instead of deciding for yourself.

eric houser Hey now, nothing wrong to ping the social pond once in a while.

Watching for extra history for a long good while, untill one day I clicked into thier home page "what? thats a game video channel?"

+Jackson zoller Then Hitler and the rest will play the 2nd most dangerous game, russian roulette

+Devo Revere lol

Hitler played Jenga with Stalin then quit to play with West Europe (Then loses both!)

yes

Ba ba baaaaaa.

+Choa Ming Guy It is one of the great mysteries of the world.

He died

Steven Betchel Nerhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

+Choa Ming Guy But he died as he lived. Showing the world his massive balls.

No... but, he did posthumously receive the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross, the highest award a german soldier could receive in WWII.

It was more of a drawn out struggle, but for the most part, yeah.

samuel chen not after Kursk. At this point the only thing stopping the Soviets was the size of their gas tank.

thats the point, you die trying to invade russia because they run away and make mother nature kill you

The Soviet did not smash the German at Kursk. They suffered 3x more casualties than the German did.

They smashed the german army during operation Barbarossa and truly smashed them during operation bagration

there is only 1 answer. *T -34.*

+Mostafa Haque get out

+Mostafa Haque being a soviet soldier was tragic at the time. You had the choice between : - german bullets if you fight - soviet bullets if you desert - and if you are a smart guy and thought the best course of action for you was getting captured by hopefully an honorable guy who wouldn't execute you, your family was punished.

+Mostafa Haque well someone had to do it

Damn son

NEIN

+DOT Brothers yup

Agreed

+DOT Brothers All I can do is agree, yet shake my head at the same time. What these people faced, commanders and infantrymen alike... we will never truly know.

+Daemon Magister And we shold be grateful that we will never know!

+Timothy McLean Yup. If there's one thing the Russians have ALWAYS excelled at, it's drowning their enemies in a sea of blood. Whose blood? Doesn't really matter.

Lucifer Morningstar Oh, no, I understand the point of the statement. I'm just amused with the focus of its wording and how appropriate that is to the Soviet M.O.

That and the massive size of their country. Nobody else can give up a few million square kilometers of land so easily and keep full confidence that they will take that land back.

The US was actually kinda in a similar situation. It was only really Britain (and obviously Germany but their manpower shortage was to such a degree that it still has an effect to this day) who were more worried about drainning manpower than what they could out. Even though after Normandy Britain was mostly crushing the Nazis they were still very worried about their manpower and what it might mean for the future of the empire.

I found it very communist. Not just the soviets, China and North Vietnam too.

- Mao Zedong

LOL

JetstreamGW Yes

- nobody ever

Stalin:Why did the Germans invade us? They know that we have more men than they have bullets

Stalin totally shanked Hitler's Jenga ship.

"I survived Vietnam but I shiver from jenga!"

Exactly

Stop, your killing the vibe

You're looking at the situation 70 years later, clearly with a decent enough knowledge of how one thing led to another, what the exact consequences of certain gambles and opportunisms were, etc etc That the war was already lost by that point makes sense when we sit and assess it all, with the ability to hit the search engine and read 'x' amount of reports and evaluations of both sides and see the entire chess-board. They didn't have that. It's entirely irrelevant whether it was, or wasn't lost, or going to turn the tide, or any such thing. Did they believe it? is what matters.

Luftwaffel :D

XD

+Mike dN waffa waffa waffa waffa

+Mr. Gold They're so light and fluffy!

+Mr. Gold Mmm sehr lecker

you mean the guy who repeatedly disobeyed orders to hold his position, consumed resources that the nazis couldnt afford to lose, and is only particularly "ethical" conpared to fucking nazis.

+Sean Su Yes, the very same: consider that many of the orders that Rommel ignored were orders to kill Jewish soldiers, civilians and captured commandos , and showed resistance to Hitler, and his refusal to carry out the illegal Commando Order and Night and Fog Decrees. He was the only commander at Corps level and his Corps were known to not commit any sort of war crimes, and in fact were known for preventing war crimes. Now while he was, much like many German's at the time, taken to Hitler's speeches that pertained to bringing Germany out of its poor economic situation and rebuild the country and its power and had some initial support, to his credit Rommel soon became disillusioned with the Fuhrer, becoming ever increasingly disgusted with Hitler's lack of concern for his exhausted troops, the lack of support Rommel had received and the Desert Fox's growing disillusionment with Hitler's callousness, cruelty, and incompetence resulted from these instances as well as being ordered to carry out incompetent, unreasonably callous and even outright illegal orders precipitated with his faith in his Fuhrer broken. During one occasion, he refused to allow SS units to parade before his battalion in front of Hitler and Goebbels. They backed down. Rommel even had a spat with a Nazi newspaper, Das Reich, which had written a fictitious biography of him as an ardent Nazi and early Party supporter. During Rommel's time in France, Hitler ordered him to deport the country's Jewish population; Rommel disobeyed. Several times he wrote letters protesting against the treatment of the Jews and he protested against the atrocity committed by the 2nd SS Panzer division Das Reich, which in retribution had massacred the citizens of the French town of Oradour-sur-Glane. Rommel asked to be allowed to punish the division. And while he implemented the construction of the many obstacles to strengthen then Atlantic Wall, Rommel directed that French workers were to be paid for their labor, and were not to be used as slave laborers. Now was Rommel a perfect man? No he was not, even I know that he wasn't without his flaws. While he possessed a track record as a brave, resourceful officer who had excellent tactical judgement and possessed a cool head under pressure, he did suffer from the major flaws of being fairly Arrogant, was known to be at times impatient and was known for not getting along well with others; wither it was ignoring Hitler's orders to execute Commandos and Jews, or for seeing the Italian military forces as being sub-par at best to outright incompetent and useless at worst, at times ignoring and even insulting them. (And mind you I'm a second generation Canadian of Italian descent). Though again to his credit eventually his initial disdain was tempered when he came to realize their lack of success was principally due to poor leadership and equipment, remarking succinctly in his typical fashion: "Good soldiers, bad officers." And eventually came to see the Italian forces as being equal to German soldiers though his relationship with Italian high command was still generally poor. In the end it came to a very dissonant relationship as Italian command were always at odds with Rommal; Field Marshal Kesselring was assigned Supreme Commander Mediterranean, at least in part to alleviate command problems between Rommel and the Italians but claimed Rommel ignored him as easily as he ignored the Italians but in contrast the common Italian soldier and NCO's had the deepest trust and respect for him. While still flawed however he was still a man of character and principle: he refused unreasonable to outright illegal orders in a time for his country that such insubordination could led oneself to being punished and even killed. He was a man who respected his adversary's and whom was respected in turn. Rommel understood and accepted that with war would come casualties, but sought to minimize the number of people killed and wounded during battles he was involved in. He had cared for the well being of his men that he commanded though he was certainly demanding of them had little patience for junior officers who did not do their jobs properly since he expected a great deal of himself and much the same for his junior officers and his own superiors. What's more was that he personally did not have strong racial views. Though he developed an illicit relationship with a local fruitseller, Walburga Stemmer and had a daughter with her and had loved them both very dearly (he often wore the Scarf his daughter had knitted for him), he not only had the integrity enough to tell the truth to his Fiance and then wife Lucia Mollin of the relationship, he also had no intention of abandoning Walburga and his daughter Gertrud as he provided financial support and kept in regular contact and arranged that in the event he was killed his life insurance would support Gertrud. Erwin Rommel was no blood soaked ghoul, he wasn't incompetent, and he certainly wasn't a Nazi true believer. While he was aware of the plot to assassinate Hitler and promised to "come to the rescue of Germany" once Hitler's true nature became all the more apparent to him, he didn't make anyone aware of the plot. And though he was faced with the possibility of either facing a kangaroo court that would have resulted in not only his death but the punishment of both his family and several fellow officers or to subject himself to suicide by cyanide capsule and spare his family and comrades: he opted the latter option. But as it is, though certainly not a perfect man, and was certainly a flawed man: he was still a very decent, honorable man of exceptional personal character especially given the sort of government and the or sink to its level. The very fact he was able to hold onto many of those noble, honorable and decent qualities as a human being while serving such an army of the time is worthy of acknowledgement and commendation for one would have to be of exceptional moral courage to remain spiritual intact like that in such an environment. So yes: I, as a Canadian of two generations and an Italian in blood heritage and as a man who see's the importance of military history and to remember that solider must be a humane solider of honor and principle, would like to see an Extra history that explored Erwin Rommel, the Desert Fox, a chivalrous, capable armored officer and the last Prince of Germany.

brano13177 He didn't the stop the SS units who were murdering left, right and center in his theater. You can't just look the other way when it comes to genocide.

Hearts of Iron IV fanatic spotted I see!

TheReferenceGuy still, the sign on the video was wrong

Pedro Barbosa Duarte not in hell you wold run away if you were Russian you would tie him up and throw a match at his privates

+Christopher OBrien I'll be honest, that just makes their defeat that much more enjoyable for me.

neither did poland, or the usa

Stainess Steal is the best mod for medueval 2 total war, so i defend it :D

Scheneighnay They were "Special" forces. The Wehrmacht regularly complained of their incompetence the only thing they had going for them was a fanatical comitment to furthering a genocidal regime's cause. Usually by burning down villages.

The Jukes I agree especially when he ate a bullet

+pc master race Yeah, the Soviet Union spent most of the interwar period sorting out its political mess from the revolution, and Russia was relatively late to the industrialization game. Thus the outdated communications, supply issues (the whole 2 soldiers, 1 rifle thing) and other such issues. Of course, everyone else spent at least half of the interwar period scrambling to sort out their economic issues, and the Soviets maintained their military spending unlike Britain and the US (both of whom diverted much of the military budget to economy fixing projects.)

+pc master race what if the command tank got taken out? retreat?

Javon Younger well then your fucked

pc master race how much money was a radio back then because that just seems cheap

Javon Younger yeah but later they started putting radios in the tanks and then the russian tanks started to preform much better

Also they had the extreme dishonor of being commanded by hitler... A complete idiot.

Christopher OBrien More to do with the disparity of populations, a more ruthless regime in Russia, etc. Remember that Stalin was even more of a nonce when it came to operational finesse - and he'd already killed all his own best officers off before the start of the war. Mind, if they had gone up against the Russians in WW II with the same decency as a Max Hoffman in WW I, the Germans likely would have won. Remember that Eastern Europeans were throwing flowers at the feet of the Wehrmacht at the start of the offensive. Most of them despised the Bolsheviks, and with good reason. But by Kursk the Einsatzgruppen had done their butchers' work, and so defeat was just a matter of time.

+DrCruel Demographics played a role, but I hope you realize how stupid Hitler was. We're talking about Dikatana companions level of stupid. This is the idiot that he nearly halted development of the world's first assault rifle, jet fighter and a shit ton of other weapons because he didn't like them. This is the idiot that bombed London because he felt like it, allowing the RAF to rebuild its strength to the point of practically handing them the battle of Brittan. This is the idiot who also allowed his ally to declare war on the US, a industrial power very comfortable to be doing nothing until it suddenly decided it didn't like fascist dictatorships and nearly drowned Russia and Brittan in half a trillion sub-machine guns and spam cans to take on the Nazis. This is also the man that, once the allies had a genius plan to paratrooper British commandos into Germany, give them a sniper rifle and cap the little bastard at his summer home... they scrapped this brilliant plan simply because they realized he was such an idiot they would be better off letting him burn the nation to the ground instead of letting one of his more qualified subordinates take over.... he was so stupid, he was practically the key to allied success.

+Casper Kersten using the Heart of Iron IV world tension indicator? its appropriate to see it here lol

+WorasLT Best map in game! Campfestrovka lol :)

+Alvin1020 Don't forget about Derpenburg!

+Lucifer Morningstar That's pretty impressive that they could repair a destroyed tank five to six times back to working order. (I take it that sometimes, the Soviets would report losing more tanks than they took into the battle?)

+Overhazard The reference photos available are full of the craziest Frankentanks you can imagine- both sides were bolting and riveting stuff together all over the place

Morningstar I believe there are several cases of Soviets suffering more than 100% tank "loses" because to them if a tank got stuck in the mud it was "lost" and ofc in a tactical sense it was.

Morningstar not True most of Soviet tanks were destroyed for ever. I see you know nothing about what ammunation used German tanks. Only panzerfaust just killed crew inside T-34. They had ammo in floor. That means in most of case big explosion when shells penetrated armour.

+RedEffect A hit to the turret of a Tiger from an Su-152 would take the the turret right off the tank.

+Michael Thomas *When* it hits....^^

Mike Romney Well, in one ambush, SU152s knocked out 7 Elefant TDs (killed the crew and badly damaged interior, but didnt really destroy them). But It proves how massive the blast is, I mean Elefant has 200mm armor :/ And Tiger or Panther could not survive it... It wasnt really accurate thats for sure, cause its primary role was to be SPG rather than TD. But it proved itslef worthy to be TD... I think one guy destroyed 10 tanks during one battle on Kursk using SU152..

Yes, thats right...but the chances were much better in an ambush, at medium to short range - and then this thing must be indeed devastating. Thats really for sure. The same problem existed with the heavy 150mm infantry gun from the Germans - *if* they hit an french Char-1b with an HE--shell - the day was won...but the dispersal from this gun was over 2m at 600m range + a verry low muzzle velocity ....so your only hope was, the enemy tank crawls right in front of your gunbarrel without detecting your own gunemplacement...and this circumstances limited the usage as AT-gun drasticly.... The SU 152 was at least mobile enough to lay an ambush with a decent chance that the Tiger comes into range, to hit him with the first shot.....The patient hunter gets the prey...^^

+Mike Romney Well that is just infantry gun. And yeah, SU152 was using ML20 artillery gun, but with higher velocity, so it was more accurate than regular artillery but still not accurate enough to make it perfect tank destroyer, still, It wasnt proven bad, well, better than T-34 which couldnt penetrate Tigers armor unless it got really close. But, after the Kursk, it got back to its primary role which was to destroy bunkers, fortifications... Well, later came IS-2 and T-34/85 which could easily take out the Tiger, but in Kursk SU152 was one of the few that could destroy it (if it hits it) and also AA 52K gun, but that wasnt a tank...

+Krymson kyng I also noticed this.

+Shot Up Gaming Not all of htem, but most. It is realy strange, how they acted. I mean, in the last weeks of the war in germany, theit were fightings between Wehrmacht (Army) and SS troops.

+Shot Up Gaming The quality of the SS troops differed between battalions. They range from simple soldiers to camp guards.

+900bot YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! (The music starts)

+Shot Up Gaming Pretty much. During the Battle of Berlin the German 12th Army basically said "screw you guys, we're getting civilians across the Elbe," then hauling ass to American lines, taking the remnants of the 9th with them. The SS, of course, wanted them to stay in Berlin and fight to the last man and the last round.

braith117 I imagine they were more annoyed because soldiers running off to surrender.

+Bluemilk92 Thanks! We love Crash Course too!

+HoboTango I think this was the same issue for air-fighters as well. I don't know how Germany counted their kills, but Soviets counted a plane "killed" if it had fallen down on the ground and someone noticed it (either a pilot or someone from the ground).

Especially the Americans was awfull at counting air-kills, with multiple gunners and/or pilots claiming the same kill.

Artek [General] Germany counted their kill the same way if I remember correctly.

The Soviets lost 23,500 tanks and SPG in 1943.

Stalin in Stalingrad, then we russian Berlin Im sorry

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@@emirdiegomontes6411 I like both of your jokes, lol

+Lênon Kramer How is Battle of Kursk obscure?! As the vids clearly said it was the one of the biggest fights in the Eastfront with casualties exceeding the losses of US and Britain for the whole war(!) and which was basicly the last German offensive in the Eastfront. Seriously how is Kursk obscure?!

+Pikkabuu I was talking about the Extra History series in general, not especifically about this one. But, anyway, outside of the sides directly involved on the War, very few people know about Kursk. Here in Brazil, for example, we are teached only about Stalingrad... even D-Day is something almost left out. And even then, the classes are mostly about the geopolitical struggle, and not about the war itself. I am someone with a passion for History, who read all the history books on school (the only one who did, in my classes), and even studied two semesters on a bachelor's degree on History (the ancient and medieval ones)... and I had never seen anything about that battle. It is very easy to miss it out, if you aren't directly interested on WWII (which is my case). Buuuut, Brazilian education is not something good at all... I met some people of the newer generation, already on the University, who had never heard about Gengis Khan. Seriously.

And things will only get worse, as the São Paulo governor took History out of the programme for the basic education. And is closing schools to save money to build more prisions. Yay.

+Not a Reliable Gondor Soldier You mean Mordor right?

Last time I came this early, my wife left me

+BSM don't be a smartass It's easy to say Hitlers plans were stupid in hindsight.

what does "wouldn't of" even mean?

Manstein actually wanted to let/encourage the Soviets attack from the Kursk salient and then counter attack to sieze it the "Backhand stroke". Hitler didn't want to lose more ground and made them adopt the "fronthand stroke" which was operation citadel. Additionally they wanted to kick the battle off earlier without waiting for Panther tanks to be fielded but hitler had delayed the operation so that the 'wonder weapons' could be used, they'd learned enough that Soviet defenses were too difficult and costly too attack and didn't want more delays to allow more defenses to be built.

I think Hitler seriously underestimated how fanatical the resistance would be, and how little of a fuck Stalin gave about losses. Stalin would just keep throwing men and machines into the grinder until he won. Barbarossa was a stupid, stupid plan.

barbarossa is a stupid plan only if you look at it in hindsight. with what they knew of the time, the russian army didn't exactly have a great track record: they crumbled in wwi, lost the polish-soviet war of 1920, and most importantly was humiliated in the winter war by some unindustrialised country with tiny manpower. though the soviets didn't lose _every_ conflict they were involved in (e.g. khalkin gol), it was more than enough to give them a really bad rep. also, the were were in fact viewed as the stronger nation at the time - a view they also had in wwi - and the germans just rolled over them in weeks. overconfidence of the german army and underestimation of the soviet army as a result of these wasn't just a sentiment held by the germans, it was held by the allies as well.

Deus ex moment, Allied open new front and Germans were forced to dive they forces. History sometimes take sharp turns.

This Battle ended with Soviet Forces approaching Kiev. After the battle of Kursk it was over for Germany, for Soviets it was only starting. The battle of Kursk opened the way for the operation Bagration which expelled Germany from Soviet territory in 1944.

The reality is very disappointing

+Milo Milan You could try reading Nemesis by Max Hasting if you like a little Pacific theatre history

YES! It has been on my to do list :) But how good would it be if they did a series on it in this unique format :D

they didn't want to go to Siberia.

+Titans Channel anything else is better than soviet custody

+ricojes try telling this to those who experienced German treatment of the POWs.

Its a hard one...wich one is the worst? Nazi POW treatment or Soviet POW treatment?...that is truly a hard question

+Titans Channel Well if you were not a Jew, Communist or another undesired ethnic group you had a really good time (=better time then in a soviet prison camp). That being said, it not justify the treatment of the first named groups.

+scarfacemperor There would have been no operation left to be canceled when the allies landed.

+scarfacemperor Was he that good?

+scarfacemperor found a great war subscriber

+Deathroll1988 he was that bad

Deathroll1988 judge for yourself : in the 1914-1915 winter, the fortress of Premzyl (sorry for butchering the name) was besieged by the Russians, with 100k Austrians inside. To save the fortress, Hötzendorf sends not one, not two, but THREE winter offensive over the Carpathian mountains. 800k Austrians die in the snow while the fortress falls soon afterward.

+wasneeplus HAve you read the book ? It is like a weird trip of incoherent thoughts.

Mr.Tabasco Truthfully, I only read excerpts. I have read *about* the book a lot. But I read enough to know that he explicitly proclaims a belief in God in it.

+wasneeplus Yeah, outright lying about personal views in order to garner public support? Which politician would ever do that? It's his inner circle of accomplices that must have been wrong about his religious view.

+Mr.Tabasco Just like most holy books lol.

GrumpyStranger His inner circle never claimed he was irreligious as far as I know. In any case, you do make a good point but here's why I think he really was a religious fundamentalist: he thought the Waffen SS soldiers should give up their believe in God because it would make it easier for them to do the evil he thought necessary. Any atheist will be able to tell you that a lack of believe in God doesn't make you at all more morally flexible when it comes to serious things like killing. The only people I've ever heard making that claim were devoutly religious.

+Petey T yup

rofl how the fuck do contemporary leftists sound like nazis? Because you think contemporary leftism is a secular ideology founded on science which can't co-exist with religion? Sounds like you are ignorant of what being "left" even means. Nice try though, trying to smear secular ideology with the same broad brush as nazism. A more glib statement I doubt there has ever been. Hey you know what, Hitler also had a mustache. I guess everyone with a mustache is like Hitler! Hope you don't have a mustache, or else you must be trying to be a nazi. See what I did there? Its what you did. Stop being glib.

Conflating secular rationalism with nazism on the basis of rejection of religion is akin to conflating altruism and mass murder on the basis of rejection of poverty.

Hitler may have said it, but Nazism was not secular; Jews were persecuted and under secularism no religion is even favored over another. America was founded on secularism, and most of the world runs on it today. There is no connection here to "contemporary leftists". I haven't heard of them trying to exterminate an entire faith/ethnicity. If anything Nazism was a Christian ideology, even if Hitler wasn't religious himself, the catholic populism he employed remained a big part of his pitch to the people. This is unlike Stalin, who attempted to eradicate religion to gain more control - even then the Soviets were an atheist state, not a secular one. In fact, basically all the christian things in the US government today were invented during the cold war to distinguish themselves from the 'godless commies'. No "In god we trust", no touching a bible on inauguration, 18th century to 1930's America was one of the most officially secular places in the world at the time, even though Christianity was almost universal.

Not sure why you brought this up Thomas Garner, but I do find it funny that this is even debated. Hitler did in no way live the life of a Christian or heck any religion that I can think of at the moment really. Typically the people that say he was are just looking for another excuse to hate on religion. =\

+Achillez me too >_

+Achillez It does not really do justice to Soviet history though. Overdramatize some stuff, make up some on the spot to make USSR seems darker, than it already was. If you dig deeper into real WW2 Soviet Union this just seems silly with how over the top this game is.

they simply copied it from the roman empire

Onward Comrades! Armies of the Soviet Union; CHARGE!

Communist pigs hail the fatherland

+The Garden of E sim 117 muricans

+Asaf Katz Didn't you know? Only the USA fought in WW2? They totalllllyyy saved us from the Nazi's, all those young boys and old men on the Western front and all those cut off, starving, Japanese soldiers were totally the most elite Axis units. The Eastern front was the largest theatre of the war; the Soviet Union fought against the combined forces of the Wehrmacht and the Schutzstaffel and by the end of the war were by far the most elite allied army, they deserve to be commended as such.

Asaf Katz Ahaha, I forgot, Russia is clearly the evil one, I mean the USA only committed one genocide, deployed napalm and agent orange on both North and South Vietnam and nuked two cities... They must be the good guys.

A Samusenko Seriously though, the US is not that evil, I just hate how people think that the US is responsible for everything good in our world.

+Ben Handy Thanks so much!

+ultraboy222 It maybe so. But depriving 300-600,000 soldiers, hundreds of tanks and hundreds of planes from the Eastern front is still a significant handicap. If the Germans had these reserves at Stalingrad or Operation Citadel, they could have won.

+nodinitiative A laughable portion. It might or it might not had mattered. The main thing was: allies fought like bunch of pussies. If they would had been able to die for their country then Germans would had never been in such unexpected position.

+REgamesplayer If the Western Allied had as much space as the USSR, they wouldn't have fallen so easily. Are you suggesting they didn't fight as much as the Soviets? Sure, hundreds of thousands of French were captured. But the Russians also surrendered in huge numbers during the first months of the German attack. During the Battle of France, the Axis lost at least one German for 2 Allied. During operation Barbarossa it was 1 German killed for 4 Soviets and a larger territory conquered. Though I consider the Red Army to be superior to the British/French armies, we can't consider the latters as "pussies". One little anecdote: the first real WW2 tank battle happened at Hannut, on the 12th of may 1940. 411 Allied (mostly French) tanks v. 674 German tanks. Aftermath: Allied victory. Losses: 111 Allied tanks, 164 German tanks. The French campaign was quick but it wasn't an easy ride.

***** But whom in a first place gave them such massive industries, hmm? Maybe if allies actually fought at Poland and France, Soviets would not had been is such terrible spot to begin with. After giving up entire continent, not much left for allies to do, but to pray for big bad Russian to save from their screw ups once again.

DrMilgram Oh, so allies are incompetent as Russians were back then? Nice to hear that you do not think highly of your trash military back then.

IamHorse but the Soviet Russia is inside Soviet Union

+theengagedfew Thats right but the sovjets definately had the bigger talent to mobilise there powers. Germany had nearly whole europe under its command. The sovjet-union lost a lot during the german assault in 1941 but was still capable of outrunning the germans in the arms race. Perhaps it was becausee russia was nt the old czar-empire of 1914, it was now a succesfull developed dictatorship.

+theengagedfew You're ignoring their fantastic strategic mobility and battle doctrines. They were managing to take miles upon miles of territory at a time. By the end of WW2, it was probably the Soviets who had the most competent armored doctrine in the world. Their invasion of Manchuria and destruction of the Japanese army there is still used as an textbook example of an offensive done right.

TOFKAS01 because the USA gave them equipment

He went down the dispersed industry technology path.