2023 MANUAL Toyota Supra Quick Review // About Time

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Жыл бұрын

The 2023 Toyota Supra A-91 MT Edition ($72,217 as specced in Canada, $60,635 in the US) is finally here. After three years with an automatic transmission only, the Toyota Supra is now available once again with a manual gearbox. It is still powered by the same 3.0L turbo 6-cylinder, but now includes a new traction control system to help prevent tank-slapping oversteer and improve cornering traction. Thomas and James take the new Supra MT Edition out to see how it performs as a fun street car. How does it compare to its competition for the price, and how is it to drive with the new transmission? We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!!
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@MisterSkizzels
@MisterSkizzels Жыл бұрын
The new M2 is going to be almost 3900lbs! (1769kg), compared to the Supra which is ~3300 (1496kg). The Supra is the best BMW Sports car you can buy now, hands down.
@BlackonBlackE46
@BlackonBlackE46 Жыл бұрын
@beast boy car is car, good car is good car
@alalal123421
@alalal123421 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackonBlackE46 audi is car
@Saji310
@Saji310 Жыл бұрын
"The Supra is the best BMW Sports car you can buy now" Probably true and at the same time sooo sad how such a great brand has destroyed itself. BMW, not Toyota. 😉
@mamalui
@mamalui Жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Somewhat incredible that a modern compact sports car weighs as much as a 90s wagon.
@Saji310
@Saji310 Жыл бұрын
@beast boy Imagine telling anybody in the 90s that BMW will have the ugliest German cars and that past the Bangle area.
@bottlely
@bottlely Жыл бұрын
The CU Later Gray paint is named in reference to the periodic table symbol for copper (Cu), because this is a BMW paint colour called Sparkling Copper Grey. CU Later has metallic copper flakes in it, and it's supposed to shine like gold under light. Similarly, the Supra's also new Stratosphere Blue is BMW's Portimao Blue, borrowed from the BMW M3.
@treaves2175
@treaves2175 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That colour name went from stupid to pretty cool real fast with this explanation. Thank you!
@spicysnowman8886
@spicysnowman8886 Жыл бұрын
My bmw has sparkling Graphite and it doesn't sparkle much
@Iprado150
@Iprado150 Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this but you said it better.
@walidyasin2039
@walidyasin2039 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the intelligent explanation. They should have known that as reviewers of the car but that requires research I guess
@bottlely
@bottlely Жыл бұрын
​@@treaves2175 Personally, it's still stupid, but the really fun kind of stupid that I can't help but appreciate. Just like the GR 86's punny "Track bRed" paint
@irmjbhh
@irmjbhh Жыл бұрын
3:57 I love how James is genuinely scared as Thomas casually cruises through the gears 😮
@silv3rArrow
@silv3rArrow Жыл бұрын
AFAIK "genuinely" will aways be the Ford GT episode 😬
@SlickSniper3
@SlickSniper3 Жыл бұрын
They refined the steering and handling quite a bit. Owners from the previous years have gone onto the 2023 and report both on track and street that the steering changes have made the car more communicative of what the front and back end are actually doing. Suspension is more composed and doesn't snap oversteer. I'd love to see you guys take a 2023 onto the track, either automatic or manual and see for yourself. I myself moved from a 2020 AT to a new 2023 Automatic and live near TMP if you guys want to try.
@bman1668
@bman1668 Жыл бұрын
Why not wait for last year model? Or manual? 2020 and 2021 have different suspension as well , well the tuning of suspension
@SlickSniper3
@SlickSniper3 Жыл бұрын
@@bman1668 dealership offered Me close to what I paid for it 3 years ago! Likely going to stick with the 2023 for the long haul, was happy with the 2020 though for sure.
@TheRealChilly
@TheRealChilly Жыл бұрын
This is why you never buy the first model year of any vehicle, unless you're deeply in love with the vehicle and/or plan to make it a garage princess.
@SlickSniper3
@SlickSniper3 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealChilly the 2020 was still a mighty good car for a first model year
@TheWoebegoneJackal
@TheWoebegoneJackal Жыл бұрын
@@SlickSniper3 2020 is still the best sounding year, which to me is one of the most important things if you don't plan on modding.
@Vge21x
@Vge21x Жыл бұрын
Dunking on the Z is understadable, but still hurts a little. It has to be said, obviously, but everybody knows full well that unless the Z and the manual Supra sell, we're not getting cars like that ever again.
@spicysnowman8886
@spicysnowman8886 Жыл бұрын
Everybody keeps saying things like this and then one gets released a year later.
@rcDoom
@rcDoom Жыл бұрын
The Z can dunk on other cars to.
@Vge21x
@Vge21x Жыл бұрын
@@spicysnowman8886 If people weren't saying it, there is no way in hell Toyota would bother with a manual Supra. Not to mention Toyota didn't want to build a new Supra in the first place, until BMW offered to do it for them, in exchange for their tech.
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the Z isn’t the last fat pig of disappointment that Nissan will make.
@nightraven5760
@nightraven5760 Жыл бұрын
whats wrong with the z?
@avipillai1584
@avipillai1584 Жыл бұрын
I think the “Cu Later” refers to the fact that Copper ages over time into a green-blue gray. Pretty clever name if that’s what they were doing.
@AisuruMirai
@AisuruMirai Жыл бұрын
James had the name wrong. It's "CU Later Gray," not "Cu Later." I, for one, don't think that they would name a car color after oxidized metal that is a completely different color than the car's paint.
@dannyd7714
@dannyd7714 Жыл бұрын
CU is the name of the element Copper
@matthenderson
@matthenderson Жыл бұрын
Clever fellow
@erouse91
@erouse91 Жыл бұрын
I think hes right with the oxidized copper thing. If you see it in sunlight, there is a hint of copper in the fleck. Anyone go get a penny that is clearly old and look at the color. It's pretty spot on
@usonumabeach300
@usonumabeach300 Жыл бұрын
@@dannyd7714 technically "Cu" is copper. "CU" is a molecule of 1 carbon and 1 uranium. Lowercase letters are important when talking elements. The only thing my google-fu could find regarding a single of each atom is a novel bond scientists have been able to create which has a very weak bond (which means it's not a stable molecule) and is called uranium methanide, but it's UC, not CU. What little I recall from chemistry in highschool 24 years ago along with Google makes this an important distinction, but I don't remember WHY.
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert Жыл бұрын
This 8-minute video felt like 2 minutes! That's how good this channel is.
@tHe_WiZaRd_Life
@tHe_WiZaRd_Life Жыл бұрын
I legit had to fact check this. I thought it was a 2 min video. Pleasantly surprised and I agree with you.
@arniegrape7364
@arniegrape7364 11 ай бұрын
Me too
@GrantsUsername
@GrantsUsername 3 ай бұрын
Definitely could’ve been way longer, but YMMV on that opinion.
@LaTacheGrandCru
@LaTacheGrandCru 2 ай бұрын
Feel like 3h boomers sitcom tv show
@albonfilms
@albonfilms Жыл бұрын
So, CU Later Grey is originally a BMW color called "Sparkling Copper Metallic". And when the sun hits it, it produces quite a shiny Copper-color flake. So then, why "CU Later"? Because on the periodic table, Copper is Cu. Still a tremendously silly name 😂. Love y'all ❤️
@Daniel-oh2ug
@Daniel-oh2ug Жыл бұрын
Thank you for enlightening me with your genius. Just looked up an image of the flake and it looks awesome.
@jamesengelsman9369
@jamesengelsman9369 Жыл бұрын
Wow, we give a shout out and you come here to slam us with some facts. I never thought I'd have to organize a KZfaqr boxing match but today you woke up and chose violence. LET'S HAVE AT IT. p.s. the entire time we had this, the sun didn't come out.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube Жыл бұрын
oh wow, he does respond
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube Жыл бұрын
sadly 23 people gave him a thumbs up, not sure who those 23 idiots are but
@peterpabian
@peterpabian Жыл бұрын
Good job including the foliage in the opening shot.
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
Come to Canada, you will see these colors everywhere right now. We have the most gorgeous autumns 😍
@alvinmercado6305
@alvinmercado6305 Жыл бұрын
the manual of this car will be an underappreciated gem. i see this in 15 years being something collected once everything is eletric
@harambeMk5
@harambeMk5 Жыл бұрын
i agree
@OpenBarGarage
@OpenBarGarage Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Especially that it will have been low volume. The rare supra. The one you should want damnit
@dogshmog
@dogshmog Жыл бұрын
@@OpenBarGarage there will be many more. They’re pushing the manual “edition” right now as a special thing.
@abhishay22
@abhishay22 Жыл бұрын
manual, 6 cylinder, RWD, hatchback, manual handbrake, the perfect recipe
@FoundationLeatherCo.
@FoundationLeatherCo. Жыл бұрын
I totally disagree with you. This is what Supra appreciators have been yelling at Toyota to provide since the A91 was released. This is an appreciated gem that is finally attainable. These will sell like crazy. I’ll bet 85% of GR Supra owners will (try to) buy one of these and trade on their ZF8 speed Supra.
@JeanPaulConnock
@JeanPaulConnock Жыл бұрын
It's always been a good looking car -- if you think it is a good looking car. This is exactly the insightful analysis for which I depend on you guys. :D Great work, as always.
@samsound8510
@samsound8510 Жыл бұрын
Would you say it's more or less good looking than Adam Driver?
@Modmaann
@Modmaann Жыл бұрын
"The vents start as fake but get more real later" that got me 😂
@kratosdisciple4637
@kratosdisciple4637 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link to Albon. I had never heard of him. His technical review is a perfect compliment to your guy's unique brand of entertainment. You guys are true class acts for providing links that support the enthusiast community.
@Joey856721
@Joey856721 Жыл бұрын
O man were you missing out
@kpjmphotographs9903
@kpjmphotographs9903 Жыл бұрын
“Only in every measurable way…” LOL! Savage!
@kamikazi5144
@kamikazi5144 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you guys are just fans of cars in general and enjoy your work, that's why you're so good at it. Keep up the great content Throttle House
@kamikazi5144
@kamikazi5144 Жыл бұрын
@whatsapp👉₊₁₆₆₉₃₀₇₈₅₇₃ I got something for yo mama, also why do you have a black dude's profile picture? No one on Throttle House is black last time I checked
@zachariewright1690
@zachariewright1690 Жыл бұрын
You guys are so much fun to watch. Thanks for all the laughs and the great info as well.
@makatron
@makatron Жыл бұрын
The best Canadian car related channel by far.
@manwerama
@manwerama Жыл бұрын
I just can't believe how beautiful that tree at the beginning is.
@GetOffMyLog
@GetOffMyLog Жыл бұрын
Fall colors have been amazing this year!!
@manwerama
@manwerama Жыл бұрын
@@GetOffMyLog They sure have!
@redlinedrifts69
@redlinedrifts69 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Canadian autumn ;)
@bcvijasiu
@bcvijasiu Жыл бұрын
Another Yugo HAHA, not the car but the viewer/commenter. 👍🏼
@runner3033
@runner3033 Жыл бұрын
C'mon over to my place to see some more - I got a rake and some bags too! 😁
@CypressRacing
@CypressRacing Жыл бұрын
Nice brief review, now let's get a full one and get this thing on the track! There's supposed to be more changes (suspension tuning) outside of just the added manual.
@madmyro
@madmyro Жыл бұрын
Finally, been waiting for a review of the manual Supra from you guys. I’m going to order one in the next couple months and want all the info I can get.
@redbarchetta8782
@redbarchetta8782 Жыл бұрын
I've seen groups of these new Supras running around. Sounds like it's becoming a classic.
@SuryaDe
@SuryaDe Жыл бұрын
I like the new Supra more and more. If I had to go to work every day I would probably pick this up as a daily driver.
@erickrecinos2931
@erickrecinos2931 Жыл бұрын
I just hope this AND the Z are great and sell well, these kind of cars are basically on life support now
@jumbowana
@jumbowana Жыл бұрын
The Z doesn't look anywhere near as good but it's at least Japanese.
@mptboi7284
@mptboi7284 Жыл бұрын
i hope this, z, miata, gr86, elantra n, golf r, sell well. I am not mentioning ctr, gr corolla, c8 z06, gt3rs, etc because we know those are gonna sell well and always be backordered. But yea we need all the fun cars to do well
@Unicornpirate
@Unicornpirate Жыл бұрын
We have the Z, Supra, GR86/BRZ, Corolla GR, and the much better looking inside and outside 11th gen Civic Type R. For those of us who are into Japanese cars, that's a pretty decent selection. Now all we need is a new RX car from Mazda and a GR86 fighter from Nissan called the Silvia and all is well. Yes I know the Supra isn't Japanese but still.
@vidademikey9790
@vidademikey9790 Жыл бұрын
I hope they make very minimal production runs. Instead of depreciating, these cars will increase in value year after year.
@Anon_Fox
@Anon_Fox Жыл бұрын
@@vidademikey9790 nah bro unlimited is needed. Once electrics take the market these regardless will appreciate in value.
@StudlySoldier
@StudlySoldier Жыл бұрын
Throttlehouse is the highlight of my week
@tomcook8897
@tomcook8897 Жыл бұрын
I would describe it as Amazon Delivery Van Grey
@pushslice
@pushslice Жыл бұрын
so….Prime-er Grey? :-D
@ArtVarque
@ArtVarque Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna call that color "battleship gray" and it seems to be all the rage among carmakers these days and I can see why. It's just so eye-catching. All it needs is a USS A91 painted on its side. Go figure...
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
The paint itself is cool but gray is the last thing I would want a sports car in, too bland.
@LitleBear
@LitleBear Жыл бұрын
Waiting for my BASE 3.0 Manual to arrive, at MSRP, in the new blue. Seems like a solid deal for a fun but not too ridiculous little sports car. The only thing I wish was an option was the brown interior because that elevates the cabin a lot IMO.
@v8_sami
@v8_sami Жыл бұрын
The base manual starts at 60k? USD?
@LitleBear
@LitleBear Жыл бұрын
@@v8_sami $55, $60 for the premium.
@flea4061
@flea4061 Жыл бұрын
I'd get the blue too.
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 Жыл бұрын
base-d :v
@Zayduzit
@Zayduzit Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for mine too, I’ve been on the allocation list for months, any word on when you get yours? My dealership told me they don’t know when they’ll get it but they’ll definitely have it for me.
@kevinberry5793
@kevinberry5793 Жыл бұрын
That was quite the ending!
@nkrwwsfvvngrq8779
@nkrwwsfvvngrq8779 Жыл бұрын
MANUAL FINALLY!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын
I think even at this price tag, this could still be a better car for your bucks than the new M2
@csanc2906
@csanc2906 Жыл бұрын
A used F series M2 is a better bang for you buck than both of those haha
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын
@@csanc2906 Debatable, the NA version supra has nearly the same amount of power and less weight, and supra has a shorter wheel base. Apart from able to put two more people at the back. The f gen M2 is NOT a better car than supra. Not to mention if it's not the competition version, which has less power.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
The wind buffeting is a deal breaker for the Supra, but if they would make a convertible version, I would be hyped.
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 As long as Z4 exists, there won't be a convertible supra.
@gabrielflores1149
@gabrielflores1149 Жыл бұрын
ZL1 is better, in every way, plus has 2 more seats.
@Aaron3Ni
@Aaron3Ni Жыл бұрын
6:45 “that was genuine” 😂
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
BMW is not a bad word, they make good performance cars. No need to feel bad calling it a BMW
@dixztube
@dixztube Жыл бұрын
I saw one of these on the road and freaked out ! It’s so awesome
@TheBasher-_-
@TheBasher-_- 11 ай бұрын
This car is so beautiful. Everytime I see one I'm always in awee
@somyongai8194
@somyongai8194 Жыл бұрын
That Nissan Z bit was savage, perfect ending 🤣
@MrLIVELINESOLUTIONS
@MrLIVELINESOLUTIONS Жыл бұрын
This deserves a track battle!
@ericm8368
@ericm8368 Жыл бұрын
Came here to try to answer question of manual Supra or manual F87 M2 and was the rear sorted now. Wasn’t disappointed. Thanks TH!
@AlexandreCardinal50
@AlexandreCardinal50 Ай бұрын
Taking delivery of mine next week, so excited!!
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын
2:24 I thought you guys would never test the RS3 because it won't be available in Canada. This gets me excited!
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 Жыл бұрын
"Only in every imaginable way" had me rolling. You guys just kill it every time. When will we see you on TV? Is there a Top Gear Canada yet?
@nirfz
@nirfz Жыл бұрын
he said "measuarable way". 🤫
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 Жыл бұрын
​@@nirfz Right, oops.
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 Жыл бұрын
jokes aside, that's accurate since some migth consider it better looking and migth genuinely enjoy the extra body roll or... I don't know what else, but, those are not objectively measurable.
@dlhennes
@dlhennes Жыл бұрын
Last 20 seconds, brilliant.
@harrison4ever125
@harrison4ever125 Жыл бұрын
Loved, "only in every measurable way."🤣
@TheWoebegoneJackal
@TheWoebegoneJackal Жыл бұрын
I've been auto-crossing my 2020 Supra all summer and honestly I think that's why I disagree when I hear people say it's a little unpredictable in the corners. My first event in it was in the wet and all I did was slide around the track (yes it was that rare auto-cross on an actual road course) the entire time. It was a perfect chance to learn where the car is at it's limits and I've not had any issues knowing where it was going since. It was a powerful experience to say the least and it gave me so much confidence in the car. In a perfect world we would all get to do this and learn what our cars actually are capable of. That's not to say it isn't tail happy, because it can be. Coming from someone who is used to lift off oversteer from hooning FWD cars (I'll always be a Honda kid) the simple answer is to learn to throttle your accelerator instead of letting go completely. 👍
@Denverian
@Denverian 10 ай бұрын
A lot of old car drivers seem cannot get along with electric steering, period. I love electric steering and it takes all the hassles of analog steering that I don't have to deal with no more. I can sorta understand it being "numb", but I still get road and tire feelings from the body. I think it's just a shift in paradigm and olddies just can't appreciate the new tech on the road.
@clifftaylor3295
@clifftaylor3295 Жыл бұрын
The setting of the intro was beautiful. You can't beat those Canadian Fall colors!
@Vito_Caligiuri
@Vito_Caligiuri Жыл бұрын
MN fall colors>
@intoitshots420
@intoitshots420 Жыл бұрын
@@Vito_Caligiuri any northern state/midwestern lol
@clifftaylor3295
@clifftaylor3295 Жыл бұрын
@@intoitshots420 I agree!
@pinkipipe
@pinkipipe Жыл бұрын
Just the best for the money 👏🏻
@DailyStreetASMR
@DailyStreetASMR Жыл бұрын
I have two coming in next week and I can’t wait 🔥🔥🤟🏽
@ronin84
@ronin84 Жыл бұрын
We really need a manual transmission hierarchy chart. I've had three manual bimmers and the shifter feel is always spongey. Honda has great manuals. A Mazda MX-5 (NC) has probably my favorite shift feel.
@iamthelaw69
@iamthelaw69 Жыл бұрын
They all feel overly notchy, and not very good feedback unless you punch the shifts with the force of a semi truck. I didn't know what I was missing until I tried the Miata ND's shifter. I don't understand why others won't use Mazda's shifter as reference. It's so good, can't be that hard to replicate.
@pkennethv
@pkennethv Жыл бұрын
​@@iamthelaw69 I don't know this for certain, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Miata's shifter feel (which I have driven) was helped tremendously by the fact that it doesn't have to be built to deal with very much torque (seeing as it is a bespoke transmission only used in the Miata). It's basically only half the torque of the Supra/B58. Kind of like how the entire Miata in general has great feel/feedback because it isn't burdened with all the reinforcement & burliness needed to deal with huge horsepower or weight.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
Such a shame the ND has electronic steering....so sad, otherwise I would have got one years ago.
@jamesbishop6697
@jamesbishop6697 Жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 Too bad for you then. It's one of the best manual cars on the market today.
@SupraDebt
@SupraDebt Жыл бұрын
Id love to hear if any of the Supra's you guys have driven had a proper alignment done. My 2020 Supra was so on edge until i got a proper alignment, it was so far off from Factory spec. Now its much better on track. And lost that nervous feeling when hitting bumps, especially at speed on track.
@JACXOUB
@JACXOUB Жыл бұрын
Check some fb groups! My 2020 downshift blue does this.. kinda wanting to get a new manual one.
@JACXOUB
@JACXOUB Жыл бұрын
The new 23s apparently handle immensely better and solved snap oversteered on ours.
@Efizy85
@Efizy85 Жыл бұрын
The most entertaining car review guys
@trizzletv9902
@trizzletv9902 Жыл бұрын
NOTHING BETTER THAN GETTING OFF WORK TO SEE A(N) (EXTRA)THROTTLE HOUSE VIDEO
@Dontdoitguy
@Dontdoitguy Жыл бұрын
Lol I love the shot at the Z you guys took at the end 😂 and I agree if I was choosing between the two I’d have to take the M2 and I love Toyota
@tgoods44
@tgoods44 Жыл бұрын
Both cars are BMWs... and the Z is about 15k cheaper MSRP. If they are comparing the Z to the Supra they might as well make the better comparison (price similarity) to an 86.
@Dontdoitguy
@Dontdoitguy Жыл бұрын
@@tgoods44 say whatever you want but Supra comes with the Toyota name plate and they tuned the engine and transmission as well as designed the body and look the Supra has so it’s majority bmw not all ….. the Z was a big disappointment and almost every enthusiast agrees so … fuck off
@vidademikey9790
@vidademikey9790 Жыл бұрын
This will become one of the only cars that you will be able to drive off the lot and it doesnt insanely drop in value.
@MrGamingCookie
@MrGamingCookie Жыл бұрын
I was crazy lucky with mine! Bought my 2.0 for £42000 and a week later the value of it was £49000.
@KingZD1
@KingZD1 Жыл бұрын
@@MrGamingCookie why 2.0
@MrGamingCookie
@MrGamingCookie Жыл бұрын
@@KingZD1 I wanted an GR86 but they were sold out.
@KingZD1
@KingZD1 Жыл бұрын
@@MrGamingCookie my buddy has the new brz and he loves it, i have an sti but would love to get the new supra in manual eventually
@MrGamingCookie
@MrGamingCookie Жыл бұрын
@@KingZD1 Sadly no BRZ sold here in the UK. The Supra is a great car and I'm sure if you bought one you would be very happy with it!
@OffensiveJestr
@OffensiveJestr 8 ай бұрын
I put my deposit on a 2024 3.0 liter Premium. They expect about 8 months to deliver, can't wait to pick it up.
@holdenc1006
@holdenc1006 Жыл бұрын
I wish you’d post more vids. I’d be down with one every day. You don’t even need to be choosy with the car. Doesn’t have to be even a sports car. Review any car; rubbish, cheap but ok, run off the mill sedans, anything. I’m, for one, more interested in more ordinary versions of the ordinary good cars e g a 530i rather then m5 or some E class rather than E63 Amg…That camera angle showing the dashboard is awsome. Thumbs up as always.
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell Жыл бұрын
I personally don't have much of an interest in the exotics. I wouldn't buy one ever anyway.
@ISFASTER
@ISFASTER Жыл бұрын
"Only in every measurable way." 😂😂😂
@machina_spirit
@machina_spirit Жыл бұрын
I like that shift knob 👀 very 911 like. Since it’s essentially a BMW drivetrain I’m wondering if the Supra shift rod is also BMW and thus this new Supra knob can also fit on a manual BMW?
@YoungNinja-117
@YoungNinja-117 Жыл бұрын
5:55 has me weak! Lmao! The way he said "What?" 😂
@underratedszn6549
@underratedszn6549 Жыл бұрын
5:59 I was so confused till he actually clarified that’s so true lmaooo but still a super ayeoo pause moment
@scottyd0530
@scottyd0530 Жыл бұрын
I love the Supra, and the fact that it NOW comes in manual, just adds on to my love for it.
@regularguyfritz9450
@regularguyfritz9450 Жыл бұрын
“worse,….. only in every measurable way.” 😂😂😂 poor Z.
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
It's also 12k cheaper in Canada for the top trim. Toyota priced the Supra too high here
@Post_Leako
@Post_Leako Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping on a proper mid-cycle refresh, Toyota can address complaints like doing something about the fake vents (either removing them or making them functional, I don't care), improving visibility a bit and/or at least eliminating the wind buffeting with the windows down at speed, and adjusting the rear-suspension to something a bit more.... composed? Buttoned-down? I really like the Supra and think it has so much potential. I'm really happy to see it have a manual finally on top of the solid ZF 8-speed.
@seanbarrett4127
@seanbarrett4127 Жыл бұрын
I have been seeing a LOT more Supras driving about in my area. The AutoMile near me usually has a lot of C8s and stringrays driving about. Some McClarens and Ferarris but suddenly over the past month or so i have spotted around 6 Supras driving about...where before it was very rare i would see one on the road.
@michaelollom9964
@michaelollom9964 Жыл бұрын
The 'Adam Driver' of manual shifting. lol
@pushslice
@pushslice Жыл бұрын
Which Manual shifter would be the Doug DeMuro or Matt Farah of shifters? older-gen Dodge Viper?
@zygarde2162
@zygarde2162 Жыл бұрын
This episode was like eating a very, very spicy dish because Z burn at the end was real…..😊
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
Yeah feels bad man, I still want it for $12k CAD less than the Supra... that's not a small difference
@mcmurraybello5966
@mcmurraybello5966 Жыл бұрын
Great review from Philippines
@danebarry
@danebarry Жыл бұрын
love that color!
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 Жыл бұрын
Also props for James saying the all new Nissan Z rather than Zed :golfclap:
@xMarkie
@xMarkie Жыл бұрын
The B58 always sounds sooooo good
@beefiddy8
@beefiddy8 Жыл бұрын
Yup I got a Gen 1 B58 in my 440i with the BMW engine tune (MPPSK) and it's intoxicating. The Supra sounds great as well. You can't go wrong with the B58.
@xMarkie
@xMarkie Жыл бұрын
@@beefiddy8 I drove my homies 2016 340i with the M Package and it was awesome!
@beefiddy8
@beefiddy8 Жыл бұрын
@@xMarkie very nice they're fun cars indeed!
@xMarkie
@xMarkie Жыл бұрын
@@beefiddy8 very fun for daily driving! Definitely one of my favorite turbo cars that I’ve had the chance to drive.
@TurkeyWilliams
@TurkeyWilliams Жыл бұрын
Great ending!
@christianboyd4635
@christianboyd4635 Жыл бұрын
I love that interior
@cryptoronindude
@cryptoronindude Жыл бұрын
The Type R has hands down one of the best manual shifters. Hopefully the aftermarket takes care of this issue on the Supra.
@mattyoz0
@mattyoz0 Жыл бұрын
you just don't get it do you?
@mogulmayhem
@mogulmayhem Жыл бұрын
Did they fix the wind/open window buffeting issue?
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon Жыл бұрын
They would need to redesign the whole uppre structure to do so, it's a aerodynamics issue. It would be worth it for the manufacturer to do so, it wouldn't sell them any more cars to justify the cost.
@hellgaa91
@hellgaa91 Жыл бұрын
no
@nismo370z4
@nismo370z4 Жыл бұрын
Funny how all the reviews leave out that minor....really huge detail !!
@tovardo
@tovardo Жыл бұрын
That ending cracked me up 😂
@thomasglover3834
@thomasglover3834 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid ❤
@mfpissboy7164
@mfpissboy7164 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s not really a comparable car but a used c7 corvette would definitely give this a run for it’s money
@simbanugz2906
@simbanugz2906 Жыл бұрын
c7 will give anything a run for the money. I got a 12 mustang on spray and i can only hang till 80mph
@99-Zulu
@99-Zulu Жыл бұрын
I think a C7 is a comparable car. Both are front mounted or front mid-mounted engines, RWD, 2 seat sport cars. The Corvette is a bit heavier. But in terms of track performance the C7 takes it. Rolling would be the Supra, and from a dig I think the C7 would win 7 out 10 times. GM has it spot on when it comes to launching vehicles without AWD. Look at the ZL1 when compared to a GT500 on unprepped surfaces. Unless the GT500 launches perfectly, it's not catching up to the Camaro until a little before the quarter mile mark. If you want a track car thats stock from the get go. Go for the C7, if you want a tossable fun car, go for the Supra. If interior quality and tech is your thing in these kind of cars the Supra is the go to. I'm also not saying the C7 isn't tossable. It's just easier and more controllable in the Supra.
@MizzouRah78
@MizzouRah78 Жыл бұрын
Wtf were they thinking with adding the brown to the steering wheel!? It's disgusting. Love the Z slam at the end. 🤣
@leotam3372
@leotam3372 Жыл бұрын
That's such a 90s Lexus/Toyota move - slap that tan and wood everywhere
@nicaee
@nicaee Жыл бұрын
7:11 yea this rings true to any car with bmw’s tt inline 6s, the engine outputs a lot of torque when the turbos are ready.
@jeffnabers9180
@jeffnabers9180 Жыл бұрын
perfect ending
@obkf-too
@obkf-too Жыл бұрын
James: "Only in every measurable way!" Me: dying XD .
@davidpfrey
@davidpfrey Жыл бұрын
$72k sounds like a lot for a Supra, but it's fully loaded. The absolute cheapest Cayman with a 4-cylinder engine starts at $75k. The Cayman GTS4.0 that you actually want starts at $103k and probably lacks a bunch of amenities that are included in the Supra.
@itcangetbetter
@itcangetbetter Жыл бұрын
It's fully loaded, for a Supra. Not only does the Cayman drive better, it's more comfortable inside and actually looks good from the outside. I'll take a better driving, more comfortable, good looking car over the Supra for 3k more.
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
I think you are mixing Canadian and American pricing
@davidpfrey
@davidpfrey Жыл бұрын
@@cosmic_gate476 I am looking at Canadian prices. Which price do you take issue with?
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
@@davidpfrey Ah, didn't know you can get a cayman for that low here in Canada. Though I doubt that's what you will actually pay out the door. Porches only look cheap on paper
@paulroper4847
@paulroper4847 Жыл бұрын
Love the end - thats dark
@rootsmanuva82
@rootsmanuva82 Жыл бұрын
I love how every 'Extra Throttle House' video ends abruptly with an off color remark from James.
@mjleg1
@mjleg1 Жыл бұрын
damn yall still roasting the 400z.. love it.
@sinappanis
@sinappanis Жыл бұрын
Poor Z. Never going to live up to expectations.
@runner3033
@runner3033 Жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that the people who complain about the Z aren't the people who are going to buy a Z new off the lot. Nissan knows what they're doing, and who their customer is. What will kill it however, is not being able to get enough of them out, and the consequent dealer mark-ups. I'd buy a Z, but I'm sure as shit not going to get bent over by a dealer.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
I was interested, but I prefer NA engines and my vehicle HAS to be a convertible.
@runner3033
@runner3033 Жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 By insisting on those 2 things, you have put yourself into a numerically insignificant customer segment where it doesn't help a company in Nissan's current state to service. Enjoy your 370Z or Miata, I guess...
@Dylanbforthree
@Dylanbforthree Жыл бұрын
I exclaimed, "This should be on the main channel!", opened the video, and immediately busted out laughing
@bryant1351
@bryant1351 Жыл бұрын
Go Supra!!!
@instantkamera
@instantkamera Жыл бұрын
Cu Later would make sense if it was a copperish colour...
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Supra didn't launch with this in the beginning. Honestly, how many potential Supra owners held out until manual became available? I'm guessing not many. Maybe people will trade in theirs?
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon Жыл бұрын
Toyota didn't do so because BMW specifically said that they weren't allowed access to a manual transmission platform for 3 years. We knew this 3 years ago.
@THECOLONEL50
@THECOLONEL50 Жыл бұрын
@@Nemoticon so basically corporate politics prevented a manual for 3 years?
@macattack123mattc3
@macattack123mattc3 Жыл бұрын
@@Nemoticon If only Toyota had actually made their own car lol... It that's true then that's kinda hilarious. (Of course, if toyota hadn't simply rebadged the z4 then we wouldn't have gotten the supra, most likely, but still, one can dream...)
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon Жыл бұрын
@@macattack123mattc3 Why bother? BMW said "we'll manufacture and GIVE you a whole new car, for free, if you let us see under the hood of your new Mirai!" Toyota spend NO MONEY on research development and manufacture to sell a car with their badge on it. This is why Toyota are the least indebted car manufacturers on the planet. Win/win. Plus, the BMW Supra is a fantastic car.
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon Жыл бұрын
@@THECOLONEL50 Yes... the route cause of everything in life.
@tnutss
@tnutss Жыл бұрын
Daaaamn… roasting on the Z like that and mic drop!
@tomas_zamba
@tomas_zamba Жыл бұрын
That ending, tho'🤣
@grisa12345
@grisa12345 Жыл бұрын
CU Later in the sun is a different color. That overcast day did it no favors. Great car IMO, and part of the appeal is the relative rarity and look of the car.
@dbh2765
@dbh2765 Жыл бұрын
need a roadster version. Or a removeable roof targa (like vette). Love my Z4
@szn1580
@szn1580 5 ай бұрын
Amazing car
@albrustmeyer753
@albrustmeyer753 Жыл бұрын
Yep my grandma used that word really all the time Houston Texas lol
@jeffwertz2953
@jeffwertz2953 Жыл бұрын
Color looks like the Miata's Polymetal Gray.
@markkrivor3911
@markkrivor3911 Жыл бұрын
"It's the same thing with men" 😂
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 Жыл бұрын
Thomas' huh what response had my cracking up.
@nah3193
@nah3193 Жыл бұрын
the color is fantastic, very similar to Mazda's polymetal grey
@basicgunbros4332
@basicgunbros4332 Жыл бұрын
I still love my 22 3.0P AT
@Jorge_Magallon
@Jorge_Magallon Жыл бұрын
Is this the best BMW and Toyota currently made?
@spicysnowman8886
@spicysnowman8886 Жыл бұрын
The m5 cs exists
@Chif_GT
@Chif_GT Жыл бұрын
I'm done with manual cars. I'm never going to go to a race track, so I don't see a need for one. I drive manual Ford Ranger and this is the last manual for me. Bring the auto
@user-od1ve4fd5p
@user-od1ve4fd5p Жыл бұрын
Keep us informed (No one cares about you)
@metalogic1580
@metalogic1580 Жыл бұрын
I... uh.. what? Manuals have been obsolete for racing for a few years now, at least. A good auto is always going to outperform a manual, no matter the driver. That stopped being an argument for manual cars for a while now. Manuals are more fun, engaging, predictable and reliable. But in terms of performance, it's not better at all. If you're tired of the third pedal and just want to drive peacefully now, go ahead. But if your argument is that you don't care about losing in a race (while driving a Ranger...) so you're going auto, that just doesn't make any sense.
@removed1122
@removed1122 Жыл бұрын
Thomas, I think your M2 would look great in that CU Later colour, but I think I’d prefer a CU Matte finish on your M2’s hood to add some fun contrast! Keep the lol’s coming!
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
Agree on the first point, but I never saw the appeal on a different colored hood than the body color in cars, just makes it look cheap and tacked on (unless real carbon fiber)
@benholtvoigt8135
@benholtvoigt8135 Жыл бұрын
Watching Thomas drive that thing in the rain made my hands sweaty the whole video. Did they get rid of the buffeting when the windows are down ('cause that's a deal breaker).
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