If I'm not mistaken, I think that Force Bellow was used very effectively by Jedi Master Do'Va Kiin.

Maybe if Anakin just asked Obi-Wan to teach him how to save Padme from dying, he wouldn't have alerted the order and ACTUALLY helped him using knowledge from the archives.

The reason why the knights of the Old Republic were so much more powerful than the Jedi orders of the New Republic, or because they tapped into the dark side. Anakin has even stated that the Jedi could easily overpower any opponent, but they're limited to what they can do. This is the real reason why the Jedi order and the Republic fell to Palpatine. Had they still practiced dark side tendencies, they might have been able to sense that Palps was really the dark lord of the sith. Which is why Sidious wanted Qui-Gon dead because he knew if there was anyone on the order that would find out who he really was, it was Qui-Gon

I believe in the path of the grey Jedi, that all force abilities are neither good nor evil but lend themselves to the user's will, as with anything a reliance or focus on anything is a bad thing that will corrupt even if it is noble. If a force choke is used on an enemy to prevent harm to another where no other option is available, then it would be acceptable. Likewise using force heal to prolong the suffering of another without the intention of cure is pure evil and I'm sure the sith might even approve of its use in this case.

Obiwan also used taunts. A lot. Anyway, I don't see a problem with the abilities being known to the jedi, and even used, in accordance to their belief system. 1. Force stealth / concealment is useful as an ability for spying on any dark side users (who would not be learning and using the ability if they had no reason to believe there are jedi nearby, presumably), or to mask your emotions (as jedi are not in fact emotionless as their creed implies at face value). Why would you want to mask your emotions? Say you've got a padawan who keeps failing. They frustrate you, but you don't want to show that so you don't discourage them. Hide it - problem solved. A jedi intent on finding proof of some conspiracy or other that they're clued in to, might also benefit from this, as not all who are force sensitive are trained as jedi or sith, but they might sense another force sensitive nearby. 2. Megaphone has a very big use in communicating with your allies. If you are locked in one on one combat with a sith, with no one around to be injured (and the jedi can sense life regardless through the living force so no risk of ignorance), can also be used to disorient the enemy to aid you in disarming them. 3. Pyrokinesis could be used to start a fire in the wilds while you're trying to survive. A useful skill for infiltrators and sentinels. Fire can also be used to warm up someone who's freezing, cook food, or even, as an emergency battlefield method, to cauterize wounds. Set a spoon on fire and use it to sear wounds closed. Medic droids can take care of more advanced healing once the wounded are safe. 4. Manipulating elements of nature is similarly useful - avoid a blizzard by bending it around yourself and potential rescue / escort targets, hold at bay a volcano while the population evacuates, redirect lightning by acting as a lightning rod on a particularly stormy planet, etc. 5. Machine commanding can be incredibly useful, and droids are not considered by the denizens of star wars universe, perhaps even less so by the jedi, to be alive in any real sense. Manipulating machinery or a droid with manual input is all fine, but there may be time restraints that make it more expedient to use this ability. Example: a crane is about to fall due to a landslide, right on top of a village. Do you run to the controls and manually pilot it back, or is it far more advisable to use this ability to "command" the machine to pilot itself backwards, or whatever other maneuver you have in mind? 6. I see no issue with psych warfare. Jedi are proponents and keepers of peace. Technically, they could even use fear to ensure peace (and more or less they do, as Jedi are about as feared as they are respected prior to nearly being exterminated). It's really not that different from force suggestion. You exploit your enemy's potential lack of will to fight. And for Jedi, this more often than not means you are better able to capture your enemy rather than kill them, which allows justice to be done, instead of vengeance. 7. Causing injuries... that's basically what their lightsaber is for, as well, and they also use the force to properly wield a lightsaber. Not an inherently dark or questionable ability. Sometimes it is necessary to injure in order to keep the peace. A warning, not a kill. Obi Wan used the concept of this versus Anakin in their final battle. A disabled enemy is better than a dead enemy. In the case of Anakin, he wasn't left alive to suffer, but to have time to think on his actions before he passed on - a cruel type of mercy that the Jedi would absolutely advocate for. The hope presumably is that they come to see the error of their ways and die in peace. (Technically Anakin ceased to exist at that point so that was their technical final battle.)

Tbh, Palpatine's office was filled with sith artifacts and whatnot which aided in him hiding his force sensitivity/alignment from the Jedi.

The Jedi always used restraint even when they could in principle be as powerful as sith. Reminds me of when Obi wan fought Vader and picked up hundreds of rocks and threw them at him. I think at this point Obi Wan was getting more than irked with Vader and wanted to show him even a Jedi can can get pissed and use the force beyond the restraint they were taught.

I agree with Luke in the sense that no force ability is inherently evil , it just depends on its user

The high sith art of...insults. Dooku:"yo anakin." Ani:"what?" Dooku:"your son will never go to Toshi station with his friends!' Ani: *get's weaker*

I would imagine the permission for the use of Force Injure is in the same vain as literal disarming strikes are taught in lightsaber combat. If combat is unavoidable, then finish the fight as quickly as possible with as little collateral damage and death as possible. Even if that means amputation or similar permanent but nonfatal injuries.

If I had to guess the reasoning behind certain abilities like Alter Environment, it's that the Jedi trusts the Force to guide them - therefore, the Force would reveal when it was best to use such abilities, and when it was overkill or did more harm than good. It's the same logic behind Druids in D&D, who serve nature, calling forth storms or conjuring flames.

Certain Jedi were less corruptible; hence they were permitted to learn and use such powers. Limitations were placed on lesser Jedi to avoid them falling to the dark side and thus resurrecting the Sith.

The Jedi mind trick is the most unethical Jedi ability manipulating someone to do your bidding

I'd say there's nothing wrong with the Jedi learning or using any of these abilities mentioned because the first Jedi's practiced both dark and light sides of the force and it was a war that split them apart, so haveing aggressive light force abilities makes sence for the Jedi order to survive

your opening statement about the jedi being narrow minded is only true for the prequels era jedi. the jedi had many different eras with many different philosophies, many of them allowed marriage and childbirth for example, and the new republic era even allowed the use of dark side abilities

All of the "questionable" abilities you talked about where created in a time when the Jedi and Sith were still so similar in mindset that they used the same types of force abilities and just changed the names. And as such when people used them in battles where there could have been other less direct attacks available they were shunned, but those decisions on how certain things can and should be or should not be used were decided on by people not inherently present in that moment when shunned abilities were used. It is always well after a decision of the moment is made that someone comes along to critique and shun, to out it in a more modern perspective "Officer shoots civilian in an incident where citizen ignored and aggressively moved towards the officer." Now the officer was telling the person to slowly reach for their id and to keep their other hand up and open, the person reached in side to a coat pocket and opened the coat with the other hand with out stating that they needed to open the coat because the ID was in the inside breast pocket. The officer seen this as a threatening movement and fired. You see how the moment a choice is made is probably the only action to be done to stop the inherent threat, while anyone not there, not ever in such a moment can pick apart the incident based on things found out later after a lengthy investigation. The Jedi order was good at that in its 20,000 year existence it never learned to look at the decisions available for the moment and how the mind works in moments of stress and chaos, and as such made very bad and often times very stupid decisions.

Dunmach is literally force enhanced talk no jutsu (enhanced in that it lets you more easily divine what will reach your opponent to throw them off balance). I'm shocked that the Jedi would condone such an unbelievably broken ability to be used... that is by far one of the strongest abilities that possibly exists

I wish the movies would feature more offensive light side powers. You have to be creative to write them. But Knights of the old Republic featured force stasis and stun. Yaddle can slow someone's metabolism down to a standstill. Basically force euthanasia. But It could probably be used to make someone faint. Alter environment and Battle Meditation is also pretty cool. Electric judgement is a more focused form of force lightning. Maybe its based on the buddhist idea of using anger as a tool but not holding on to it. Which seems appropriate for grey Jedi as well. But it seems to be more powered by a desire to bring Justice. Not quite righteous anger. But a desire to protect those who have been wronged by acting as a counterforce to an oppresive force. Its the creativity in writing them that make light side powers interesting. Its also weird that the lightsaber that symbolizes the jedi was originally a dark side weapon. The forcesaber was a Rakatan weapon that focused dark side power through a crystal. The original Jedi swords where more like psyker power swords from Warhammer 40k. Swords imbued with the force power of the user.

This video is great!. It also helps us to see the dogmatic side of the most recent incarnation of the Jedi, versus the Order in the Old Republic. Keep up the great work!

As nearly always with such things.. it's almost always the INTENT the determines what side of the force you're using. While there are certain abilities that DO tap into the Dark side much more, such as Force lighting, choke or other direct force attacks.. when used for DEFENSE or to save someone elses life, it CAN be justified on a LIMITED case by case basis. If one starts to use it TOO much and thinks, like Anakin did, that they're strong enough to handle it WITHOUT being corrupted, that Arrogance and Ego CAN and often DOES lead that person down the path to the dark side one SMALL DROP at a time. This is why it must only be used sparingly and the Jedi themselves MUST be WELL Grounded in the force. This is something ONLY a Master with at least a decade or more of experience should use. Like VAPAAD, only very high level Masters such as Mace, Yoda, Luke etc would have sufficient power, skill and control and their LOVE for the light side be Strong enough that they could be trusted to ONLY use it when needed and Necessary. But as is the case with living beings, our spirits often become corrupted EVER SO slowly, sooo slowly that we don't even realize we're slowly going down the wrong path until it's far too late. Even when others TELL us, our ego's and over confidence, as Yoda Warned about, often BLIND us to what's really going on. THIS is why the Jedi began to grow more and more cautious, strict and wary of the Dark or even ANYTHING that was a "grey" power, because if you keep using a grey power enough, eventually it makes YOU darker and darker until you've completely gone over and don't even realize it. Just like with colors on a Paint palette for real.. keep adding grey to white and soon it will get darker and darker. This is why Meditation, Constantly taking STOCK of yourself, cleansing and purging ones spirit on a regular basis is sooo important to maintaining a pure mind, heart and soul. The Jedi weren't so cautious and dogmatic for NO reason. They had VERY GOOD REASONS for being as strict as they got, because they've seen how SUBTLE, slow and devious the dark side AND our OWN MINDS and hearts can be and how easily even the strongest CAN be corrupted if they let their GUARD DOWN even for a short time. Even the bible WARNS against this very thing in the true followers of Jesus and in advanced Chi-gung, this same thing is also taught if you want to keep making progress. You don't develop your internal force power for powers sake as the Sith do, but for Personal growth, health, longevity, enlightenment and the abilities you get FROM that training are considered positive SIDE EFFECTS and should only be used Sparingly in the service of Life and Others, NEVER for personal gain, power. greed, control etc. These are ACTUAL TEACHINGS within Advanced Gung-fu, Shaolin and Taoist teachings on Chi-gung and it's where Lucas got a LOT of these concepts used in Star Wars. This is why Star Wars is NOT just Awesome SCI-FI.. it's LOADED with Truth on SOOO Many levels.

Luke used force choke against the 2 gamorean guards in ROTJ.

In my headcanon the Jedi perverted the force as same as the sith, both factions are dogmatic extremists. The only correct way to use the force is to balance the dark and the light side out. When you don't find a healthy you get a confused sad boi like anakin who turns everything into rubble or the lord of hunger who devours everything that moves.

I think that without some abilities of destruction or harm the Jedi could have never protected against the Sith in the old wars. I think that carrying a melting blade is way more 'sinister'

Force injure would make sense as it denotes a controlled outcome and discipline to use. Force injure on someone using a lethal device, pain enough they drop what they are holding. I honestly think the degree to which force injure is applied outweighs possible devastating situations. A user of force injure may also have force heal and can reverse the controlled damage. Like using the appropriate amount of poison for medicinal effect. Where as force choke and crush seem to be much more overly used by sith as a staple ability and much more tempting to over do for the purpose use of a jedi. The degree of control is key, to injure something in a way to incompacitate and not maim or cause permanent damage

What about the ability Force Fear it's a ability used and featured in the starwars the old republic game. It could've possibly been used by Palpatine to place those dreams of Padme dying into Anakins head.

The use of the lightsaber to sever limbs (for example rogue Anakin’s) or behead opponents such as Jango Fett are permissible. So use of the force to injure someone is less fatal imo.

I think a fight for your life is a fight for your life. Should you survive you can lament how you accomplished it if you don’t survive it does not matter anyway. Any set of rules on how to fight might be the ideal to strive for but very few life or death fights are ideal, so successful warriors need to act accordingly.

Force combustion is, strictly speaking, pyrokinesis! Although pyrokinesis is a form of telekinesis it's still far more accurate to call force-combustion a type of pyrokinesis.

Prohibition never works. Violence is a universal language that any aspiring warrior should be fluent in. Mastery is understanding when, where, and how much is appropriate. If you use the force to crush someone, or you run them through with a saber, is there any difference?

I was seriously expecting force judgment on here

Are we really going to ignore the elephant in the room. Those fights scenes you displayed was outrageously impressive.

Using the lightsaber to kill or injury one or many people, and/or using the force to achieve the same results. I think intentions are probably more important that the weapon used. Dead is dead, maimed is maimed, your enemy won't care what your reasons are, they are the good guy for their side in their mind. Just like you are the good guy in your mind for your side.

You: Force Bellow Me, an intellectual: space wizard Unrelenting Force(FUS RO DAH!)

even buddhist monks have taken up arms in times of war or oppression. "how far the jedi have fallen" considering the other options they had that they didn't utilize it show's their restraint considering most of these abilities are from war time and not a time were they had the luxury of self indulgence.

Force Suppression is something else....it is an ability that can stop other Force Users from using their powers surrounding the target effectively cancelling someone's ability to use The Force for a period of time.

Meetra Surik employed inverse Dun Moch on Darth Sion. What about Force Light - Like what was used in legends by Luke's students to totally banish Exar Kun's spirit forever, or even what was used to defeat him in the great Sith war that he started. "Sever Force"

I think the Jedi are/were less about polarizing sides and much more about balance. The Sith order (not the species) were formed from a breakaway group of Jedi after all. With that reasoning, it makes sense to me that the Jedi would have access to all powers of the force and are prone to using ones that walk a knife's edge. Balance is a much more difficult discipline to master than pure dark or light and all Jedi masters (that I know of) have some leanings into what could be considered 'dark side' powers, especially after this video reflecting on things like 'force push' and it's possible applications. Ultimately, it's about the Will of the user and the strength of that Will when confronted with temptation and roiling emotions.

Did yoda also use force stealth when he met Starkiller on dagobah

suprised emerald lightning didn't make it, perhaps another time, great vid & enjoyed & learnt a lot :)

The Hunters of Night (the Night Hunters of the Star Wars Universe) have mastered the art of Mechu-Deru as well as Force lightning. The Hunters of Night have so much mastery of the Force that the blades of their Lightsabers, or rather their Lightsickles actually are made of said ForceLightning.

Alter Environment was used by Yoda in episode 8, when he used a natural flash light to fire up a tree.

Cool The Force Bellow is called "The Lions Roar" I'm Kung Fu Hustle

How come we never see jedi use the force ability to talk to animals more often?

if i dont remember wrongy, in one of the books luke skywalker (or might have been jason solo when he was a teen) is wondering if influencing someones mind with the force should be banned because it takes away the victims will for a short period. i think that one could be a good nr 8 on the list. i cant remember what book it was but it was either jason when in his teens or young adult years (before or during yuzhangvong war) or a young luke skywalker, before or while making the new jedi order.

Yeah the Jedi don’t understand how the force works. The force powers aren’t what is good or bad it’s always the force user that determines that. Solid video

So all of these Firce Abilities are in a moral gray area?

These are amazing 😲🔎

Force stealth shouldn't be on this list, it's not a dark ability it's neutral that's why you see folks like Palpatine able to use it as well as it was useful for the Jedi. If you are a Jedi on diplomacy missions to a world that is leery of the force but has folks able to sense it, the Baku, (sorry about spelling) is a creature of example I can think of in cannon which showed the danger of light and dark sie use and how this ability might be a safety like how some folks live hiding parts of themselves for safety as well.

i can see the alter envierment be usefull, if you coul use it to make it rain or make a large wave to stop a fire from spreading, things like that.

Is force rage still a thing because Luke's used it as well as Obi-Wan probably mace or is force Valor still around great vid btw👍

Spot on

The first one they mention is one of my all-time favorite force powers.

You call it Doctrine.. I call it Dogma😈 **Palpatine scream*

I think that overall the jedi order has no choice but to allow certain abilities. If they didn't have access to some of them, then the light side could never really overcome the dark side in any meaningful way, with the dark side being completely unrestricted and the light side walking around with figurative lead weights strapped to them. You have to keep some kind of advantage or you could never win except in the most extreme of circumstances. But, overall, I think it's pretty much impossible to use only exclusively light side or dark side abilities and still be a balanced knight. I'm a much bigger proponent of the grey side philosophy of the force than either the light or dark. I don't think the force as a whole is as extremely duality focused as the jedi and the sith describe it to be. Power, in and of itself, is not good or bad, it depends on the person using it. Many powers of both the light and dark side can be used to do the opposite of what the original person who discovered it intended it for. The Jedi order can't completely ignore that fact, so, at least publicly, there are some dark side abilities that are still used in a "grey" area because they have uses that are not completely "dark".

If you're a jedi Fighting for your life DO WHAT MUST BE DONE is the way I see it !!

The Jedi order was built out of fear and all abilities they allow help to calm the anxiety that fear brings. The contradictions show how powerful fear can be, even to the point of exposing the fear in an individual so proud of how at peace with the force they claim to be. Then watch that same individual try to claim that fear is reason and necessary. I think the pentacle of this was when the Order abandoned Ahsoka in her trial, crippled by fear, they would allow for her to unjustly be charged. Then when the force itself intervened through others, anyone who was willing, Anakin, the Order welcomed her back like they were never the reason she was there in the first place. They all looked so clueless and refused to acknowledge their fear was the reason with no other alternative. Rather than admit it they literally decided to act like the situation never happened or was a force mystery! This was directly exposed when Yoda, who was also cripple by fear, was forced to face his by the midichlorians itself lol. How selfish. Then tried to act like he didn't know what he was facing lol. His fear had to literally beat the dog crap out of him for him to finally admit! Lol. What makes it all intentional is that fear cannot exist unconsciously, you literally create it consciously. So they were 1000% aware of what they were doing. They saw it in each other and they all banded together under the same unspoken lie and built policies and procedures around rationalizing it! Lol.

I think they should learn all they can about the force, master it power, and use it whenever it necessary. It could’ve saved them durning order 66

I feel like Dun Mak is an inverted version of a jedi mind trick. And to prohibit one would also mean the other

Plo koon got his own version of light side force lightning to

Electric Judgement when used correctly would be used to devastating effect against force users like Palpatine and Dooku. They would not know how to counter it and that's what makes Plo Koon a extremely dangerous Jedi . It's lucky they shot him down in order 66 , because a Plo Koon with Mace Windu and Yoda/ Kenobi would be a serious threat to palpatine's emerging sith empire.

I have to posit this question. Can a Jedi or Sith make a force lightsaber from their hands?

In the Legends continuity Annakin as a child used Force combustion to save Obi-Wan's life force combustion to the Jedi order is a dark side ability when it's actually neutral

Electric judgement though frowned upon was a viable way to use force lightning. It was the only thing that actually worked against the Vong as they were truly immune to the force. Luke along with the entire new jedi order learned it as it was the only thing they could do besides their lightsabers and enhancing themselves. They literally had nothing else.

Which side of the force would emerald lighting also phase be consider ?

What gam clips are displayed in this video?

ther are a few other but the one that really jumps out is the force control over plants... grow them and control them. That's for sure used over the enviroment. but it's light side

A bit surprising Force fire is classified as a Light ability seeing it's leaning towards destroying an even maiming an killing in horrible fashion.... Guess UNLESS you happened to be conducting specific farming Ops in the Order guess Force Combustion was probably pretty misunderstood among the Galaxy an Order. Dun Mak seems that plenty of Jedi used. Technically we saw ALL the Prequel trilogy Jedi an most the Sith use this. Least in the movies. Before the classic Trilogy anyways. A bit odd, they'll use "force injury" at times an some even allowed to use force choke (usually Shadows or Sentinels) or make things burst into flames BUT see anything resembling a "Drain", Lightning or the like an Yoda order loses they minds... Never did seem to get it's MORE of whom is using it and what for then the ability itself which is the Force equivalent of Tools to a tradesman.. you don't see carpenters specifically avoiding specific chisels, saws an hammers.. more hands on wouldn't refuse to use critical meters, gauges or wrenches.. funny the Jedi strayed to only using some of their ability an NOT truly working on themselves like the true mystic monks they thought themselves so that even the WORST powers an abilities are only limited in the collateral damage they can do an even limited in the actual damage they cause, even the very damaging abilities

"The Force is used or knowledge and defense. Never for attack" - Master Yoda training Luke on Dagobah. I think it would have been highly unlikely for the jedi to fight and defeat the Sith or any dark side user without any offensive abilities. Absolute rules generally work against those who live by them.

Yeah that ability that Yoda used where he absorbs force lightning and like blaster bolts that should’ve been banned like no joke that is broken

Luke Skywalker use a light side version in the Disney continuity of Dun Mak. In the original George Lucas continuity or lucasfilm continuity Dun mak has one fatal flaw: it backfires against the user if the user is using it against a family member or a close friend. Which is how Darth Vader made a mistake against his son under the original continuity he forgot the he forgot the floor the drawback of one of his favorite techniques. When Darth Vader use Dun Mak, he was literally able to make you see what he wanted you to see he was capable of using this technique to its highest ability simply because he did not fear death he would learn your whole fighting style from this ability alone. This is how Darth Vader defeated so many people the only other person who comes close to even using this ability almost as well as Darth Vader in my opinion is Darth Sidious Darth Sidious use Dun Mak to block the to prevent the Jedi council from sensing order 66.

The problem comes from RPGs/MMOGs more that the canon/legends canon. At one point Luke points out to a Dathomir witch that the problem is "all of the powers and none of them". It's the state of mine of the person using the power. However this is wholly subjective and can't be used effectively as a game rule. So the games came up with lists, with were "balanced for game play", and then the games were treated as canon. So we are left with game balance being applied in mays the original canon could never support. Mind Control is never a problem...except the games say it is. Force choke is not a problem either, except the games say it is. Not sure there is a fix, but as long as multi-layer games are used as canon for heroic stories there will always be big logical gaps.

Yeah, the Jedi of the Republic shown in the movies were too ignorant. It's funny how they chastise lil' Ani for being afraid when they themselves let fear guide their actions in the prequels.

Based on what was said here, l'd argue two things. The Jedi Council was very hypocritical about about following their code and yet using abilities that stood against it. But, two, for those Jedi who practiced these wider array of feats, they ceased to be Jedi anymore. Light Side Sith, Je'dai, or whatnot. They became their own thing.

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If the task is the will of the force and their are no other way to complete it other then to alter the world around you by creating great storms then it is not a problem. If it is the will of the force then one should do what they must to complete it but only if that Jedi is truly listening to the force.

One could argue that to band or outlaw an ability in the force is to do so because of some sort of fear. If we are to believe that fear leads to hate, then banding a force ability could lead to hate of not just the ability but of those that practice it. Then hate leads to the dark side or the collapse of the so called light side. Perhaps, instead of hard fast rules, which loop wholes could be found, principles and reasoning abilities should have been more highly stress and taught. Perhaps this would have allowed for a more balanced use of the force, since the force itself is neither light nor dark, it's just the force. Just a thought. 🤔

I believe some of these or more contextual than just as black and white as ya make em out to be, such as force I jure....yes one should not use it but it is there as a back up....I feel how they are used plays a big part in their alignments as well as they were experiments from other jedi sub sects

Yoda brought lightning down from the sky as a force ghost🤣

The "Will of the Force" is both Light and Dark, Summer and Winter. The Jedi and the Sith were destined to be at war thanks to their narrow mindedness. Grey Jedi is the true will of the Force...balance.

I have an unrelated question. Wr know that Kenobi is generally considered the THE master of form 3 (I think). Are there others that are considered the best for the other forms as well?

I mean force injure really is a light side ability, and in my opinion it’s light side in nature. In combat the Jedi are taught to disarm, that could mean taking the opponents light saber or cutting off a hand of a sith or a couple well placed cuts to immobilize an opponent. But never to kill an opponent. That’s essentially what force injure is, they are not killing the opponent the are immobilizing an opponent that is a threat to people and peace. That’s is what a peace keeper is. It’s a deterrent, similar to tear gas. It’s not going to kill someone but render them incapable of fighting or posing a threat. In my opinion it’s one of the most light side abilities there is. You are restraining yourself from easily killing an opponent by just injuring them so they can’t be a threat while also not killing them. I mean what does yoda think one of his force pushes is gonna do? That shit is gonna injure someone

i would have to say that the overall doctrine is not what powers not to use, but not to use excessive force. Meaning, almost any power was acceptable if used only when needed and all factors are looked at. Take force injure for instance, your number 1, I need to disarm my opponent who is about to strike down my friend; I am too far away to use any lightsaber moves, and a force push or pull runs too high a risk of killing my friend. If i use force injure to break or hurt the arm of my opponent it can be exactly what i need to save my friend with minimal damage while adhering to the overall aspect of light. The main Taboo of it is that its unsportsmanlike. One thing i will call out, Jedi have a tendency to kill when its entirely avoidable by simply taking off a limb or two which can be replaced by droid parts...

Look in star wars Kotor 1 the Jedi give you a mission where you have to cleans the Grove they tell you that a Padawan struck his master and kill him , they lie his alive , and if you kill the Jedi in the Grove they reward you making you a Jedi and let you go afterwards.... Suspicious they are ... They tell you that Malek destroy the Jedi in Tatooine but the master vandar is alive you see him in the end when you go to the star forge . How did he escape the destruction and why he didn't warn the other Jedi

I have an idea for another video why don’t you compare the prime fighting forms of two characters let say anakin vs dooku form V vs form ii Or obi wan vs darth maul form iii or form iv vs form vii

Wasn't it the war throat was a product of the jedi's species and not a force power specifically?

I wonder what elemental focused force abilities there are? You seemed to have listed a few but think you can list all of them potentially?

I wish they would do a what if move series where Luke goes back in time somehow let's just say it's the force. Maybe he doesn't fully go back but his spirit is sent back into someone's body who recently died. Then this new mysterious thought dead sith or Jedi is now trying to prevent Anakin's fall while evading palpatine's suspicious nature. Then the throughout the movie a Anakin feels there is something strangely known to their force presence

They do happen to carry around plasma blade and those can do more damage than most of these abilities

Pretty sure that a force Push can deal a lot of dmg. It depends what you push and how strong 😅

bruh, when i was play the old republic. there was a questline involving 2 people falling in love in the jedi order. I thought it was ok. so i mentioned to my master, they were brought into the council and striped of their jedi title and power and got exiled. i logged out of the game, made another character in the dark side immediately.

Luke used Electric Judgement multiple time without being even close to tempted by the dark side. And his Jedi order used concealment all the time and never turned.

The Jedi order was not narrowminded, their avoidance of the dark side is based on thousands of years of experience seeing the effects that it has on the individual, almost every single dark side practitioner has been consumed by the dark side. They were using common sense to avoid it, not being "narrow-minded". It is also incredibly arrogant for a force practitioner to believe that they can tame the dark side, only incredibly disciplined individuals can handle using the dark side without loosing themselves, and many of them require light-side Jedi training to reach the levels required.

What about the Jedi mind trick when Anakin, Obi-wan, and Mace use it in unison against Cad Bane?

Force whirlwind is a dark side ability that is used by Luke Skywalker in the Legends continuity and it is on par with force fire

TIL talking to someone is a force ability and the second most controversial one.

If you ban light-side user force lightning, then only the dark side users will have force lightning.

I totally agree about the jedi's lack of proper reasoning.......

Dun Möch: The Star wars Talk no Jutsu

Grevious got force crushed by windu - hence the cough

In legends the Ithorians had the natural ability to weaponize their voice. There were accounts of non-force sensitive Ithorians weaponizing their voice to break glass, crack plastcrete and injure opponents. A force sensitive Ithorian with the proper training could magnify their natural ability. The Jedi Order before the rise of the Galactic Empire dealt in absolutism as the Sith did. I don't like the idea of force abilities being solely light or dark, it comes down to the individual's intentions. Force lightning and force wound could be used as a more humane way to incapacitate an opponent rather than cutting off a hand or an arm or a leg or other limb. Force heal could be used as a way to kill someone slowly by giving them cancer.