Still is. Just because they’re not in the top 10 doesn’t mean they aren’t good.

Nah he aint top 30 anymore​@The_Black_Falchion

ITS SO SAD OML

@@Jin_mori532 Top 30 in the game, I don’t have the brainpower to say yes or no to that.

@@Jin_mori532 cope

Bro is not good he takes 400k after intro from frieza

@@Mohamed-dx5yl Unless you activate the last two lines in his passive

@@adelbechtoularare but situationally good

​@@adelbechtoulaif only that was easy cuz it's just too hard

@@zaryabK-vi8fh could be easy 18 months from now or something when he eza which is crazy

😢🫡🫡🫡… “LR TIER LIST WAS THE OLD ME “

He had the craziest run of all time tho

Crazy to think he’s a 2022 LR

​@@TruAbsoluteZer0 teq ulthan lol

@@unfunnymonke teq ultimate gohan didnt have as much impact as piccolo if we being honest

​@@londonends123facts

Just because he's not top 10 doesn't mean he still isn't busted. And it isn't like he's getting taken off his own team by 17 & Golden Frieza, who aren't on OP's main team. He's literally 11, so he still isn't resting.

I started hating gogeta when he was fumbling the bag during rose run

I think it's because Broly's teams need the help more while Gogeta's teams are good without him.

Gogeta can easily get replaced in Super Heroes + His banner is pretty bad, Broly isn't special but he's not bad and also He's an extreme unit which is very valuable, What's so difficult to understand

Facts like what the hell

Because broly has a better banner, plus is more important for teams like super bosses, but super heroes doesn't need gogeta, since you got beast the 6 years, teq ui etc.

They’re not 8th and 10th in Global tho.

It’s his opinion, a lot of people will tell you otherwise. I for one believe they are 6th and 7th respectively, but generally speaking they could be anywhere from 6 to 10; it’s still good with the amount of insane units we’ve gotten recently.

On jp, on global they’re 1 and 2

Long time global players are going to have most of these characters though. 5 of the characters on the list are EZAs, and they all released 3+ years ago.

​@@Yes-yx6ucHaven't been playing for a few months now, but I've played since the first months of global and never pulled either Team Universe 7 or 17 and Frieza. Yellow coin characters have never been good to summon for, so it's less likely players have summoned for them and have them compared to Dokkanfest LRs.

They did this with 8th year as well drop anniversary units that Aren't that good at the start then drop stronger hard content that are strong at the start

Exactly their kit isnt bad other characters are just even more insane, still Gogeta is just a insanely valuable floater and that is more than enough for me

@@crownclown3519 idk abt that. Gt goku/vegeta were high in the lists, and ssj2 vegeta/goku were smack bang in the middle with carnival goku for most of the year

yup, characters are just that good this year

@@beckyg5952 Thats where the quality of units come in ,but for the actual power creep It's the Same hell 8th year LRs have no counterplay to mz aoe and Can easily die Turn 1 Atleast gogeta and Broly live After taking 400-500k ,take out ezas and Only 3 new summonable units are better then gogeta which is about what you would expect or slightly worst

Dont worry im sure its pretty easy for him to remember considering that yall spam this on every single video

That's the standard he is evaluating at but you can evaluate based on how you play cause opinions can be different 😭

@@XxXxXKEIFERXxXxX Yes how dare he look down upon us petty insignificant trash f2p players

@@Anitaku2 I spend money but I don't spend rainbow money lol

@@SK23. I'm just giving another view point. I spend money but not enough to rainbow on the first time they come around. People that do this are less the 1% so I think having 2 view points on this is a good idea and could affect tier list. Evade becomes a lot more important when your DEF isn't maxed at 100% lol

😂

wym

he already did their showcase wdym

You blind or something lol

@@londonends123 running them in hardest fights

You're right, that banner is actually kind of nuts.

@@KingstonFarell honestly I get the argument. I just started playing during 8th anni so I’m missing like half the units in every banner except the gammas. I’m also a GT fan so there’s probably no way I’ll skip wwdc. I put 1020 stones down for part 1 and I’m probably going to throw another 1020 stones at beasts banner cuz the value is insane

it’s because gogeta banners ass and villains are important to be good

Broly has way more value to missions and to villains than gogeta has to hero units they are both still good It’s just the ezas this year are insane the only other summonable units above broly are gogeta , beast , cell max , and teq ui 2 of which we don’t know when they will be on global Just saying when you remove the ezas those are the characters you summon for your not summoning for eza characters that you most likely already have so broly and gogeta are what like 4 and 5 on the list to summon for

Hes a villian, not alot of great villians; while alot of these characters in the top 10 have replaceable super options. Broly is also still very good, just because hes not high on the list doesnt mean hes not great; just that all the units they’re releasing these days are broken as fuck

Smartest global player 😂

So you only prove his point that teq ui is a bitch like the the rest 90%. Simple as that. Whats the purpose of this comment

teq Ui is gogeta with counters and if damage was something truth valued then broly would have been on top 5

Well aside from Beast and Cell Max which you also mentioned, when Agl UI and evo Vegeta die, they revive and you can continue, with them being even stronger. When Teq UIO dies, it’s the end of the game. There’s no reversing that, so by that logic, he should be below the 6th anni Lrs

Which is why he is below the units that Dont die as much? He explained that 6th year ezas just Dont die as much And usually have a revive when They die

well duh the top 10 are in the 10% that don't die a lot lol

We do have longer fights. Most of the hardest fights this year take an average of five turns more more. Last year, events ended by T4.

I fully agree.

Em no kiddo dogshitgeta and brodogshit are simply dogshit in their base and only mid transformed. Gogeta has one good turn and thats it. Imagine wasting stones for those bozos

Truth is faster than Twitter to flip on units.

@@SilverRiMiX flip?

@@SilverRiMiX feel like his logic is a bit flawed he graded this tierlist based on short content performance were orange piccolo literally still works amazing💀

@@SilverRiMiXopinions can change, crazy how that works

Why are you taking a Truth's list as gospel?

2 more weeks, we have number 1 in Beast.

I've hated this since 7th anni. Power creep is out of control. Now we're getting major powercreep every few months. This is like the 2016/17 meta and that was HORRIBLE. Part of the reason I don't play Dokkan much anymore. It's not fun when you need Beast for every fight.

That's literally how all gacha games, you don't like gacha games is what you mean.

@@SilverRiMiX what do you mean major powercreep every few months? cell max stage 2 came out 6 months ago and we're only now getting a stage that can be considered harder. Also you do not need beast for every fight lol, not any of them actually.

​@@yamete1729 Dokkan used to have a smoother pace for powercreep, where you could still use multiple teams in relevant content. With the last couple of years, this has changed. And many people don't like this change. "But everyone else does it too" isn't a valid excuse.

@@yamete1729 I mean sure power creep its part of every gacha game but where is the point of summoning for new units when he aged instantly and cant be played? Its the same as one piece tresure cruse where 90% of the releases dosent even matter at all. Power creep is fine but beware a healthful speed and not just explode, thats it my complain. Im playing dokkan since the first anniversary and it diditn feel much less satisfying to pull tbh. When i play a gacha game and its pretty much pointless to gacha units then why im playing it at all? thats the question

🫡 Piccolo will comeback someday

Blud thinks Orange Piccolo aint runnable anymore 👺

Back in 2022 fella

we do love powercreep

Yes and no. Yes they are still very good and almost every unit released this year have been either designed really well or got enough support to work effectively. (Although F2P units could be slightly better) But at the same time, even as someone who's F2P and doesn't have these potent rainbowed JP exclusive units to get to the final phase on turn 4 before they build up, there are lots of times where Broly and Gogeta are the ones killing me, not Int Buu or Teq Zamasu or GW SS3 Goku. And while Datruth DOES sound like despises Broly sometimes (and I kind of wonder if he does lol), a majority of his criticisms are valid. I think it's perfectly fine to complain about how long they take to get running, how item dependent broly is when you're running two of him, how Broly isn't providing utility until at least turn 5 (and that's with good RNG). If they had given base Broly 30% DR for his first 3 turns and loosened his restriction to just turn 4, then he'd feel a lot better. If they loosened gogetas restriction to turn 4 and gave him guard his first transformed turn, he'd be a lot better.

Dodge units of that caliber don’t age out that easily

How exactly is a character dying a lot a bad excuse?

no... actually that's like basically the most valid reason out there. If you die you lose, so why would a character who dies (loses) more than a character who doesn't be better than them?

@@beckyg5952you act like agl ui does not die a lot 😒

@@beckyg5952and don't use agl ui's revive as an excuse, he still can die later if you have bad luck 😒

@@yamete1729because Agl ui goku also dieds a lot lol

He’s doing something similar,the ranking all units until agl Vegito blue

Lol. Meanwhile, I'm just waking up for work.

Well 95% of content is Quest, Story, and Dokkan Events so you are correct lol

He’ll be back with an eza soon don’t worry

🐵

But i think they are insanely close

Global player spotted

Wish about what ? His domain is broken as fuck He supports his team . He supports his team

@@sgdkvgt7201 I mean... Since he dies much.... Revival transformation will be easier to get right

@@rahulas2002 it is your skill issues I run him without any problems

@@sgdkvgt7201 sorry for being bad I guess 😅

Yeah so it can make u feel better by seeing ui goku at number 1? I dont think so. Cope lol

@@lloydbonafide3398 I’m a global player, I just want to see how the transformed versions of characters are since f2p teams take longer to clear events

The 6 year lrs 🙏

I could see it, but SSJ3 does fall off slightly after a few turns

@@StarNameKev Honestly that doesn't feel as an issue. Cell Max has a similar weakness, but when you are rocking the "meta" setups, it's gonna be really hard to go beyond turn 7 of the fight, and Agl Ssj3 goku is LITERALLY invincible for his first 3 attacking rotations, as opposed to a certain new Ui Goku that despite having Guard and damage reduction, takes 600k from a 2.7 million super AFTER the superattack, because his condition of transformation can actually lead to being caught by a super from the toughest bosses if he doesn't dodges, before he can actually transform and become a god)

@@StarNameKev Continuing the previous message, people think that Teq Ui goku has a "perceived, theoretical" weakness but that's actually something that makes you lose some of the hardest figths, for example, you will for sure blitz through the first phase and get killed by Evolution blue vegeta that cancel dodge, before Ui is ready to negate that, while Ssj3 goku and Cell Max are considered to be a good unit with a "real" weakness, but in practice these are just theoretical weaknesses that really don't show up unless in very specific situation, such as Movie boss rush fight / running bad setups on Gogeta fight for the sake of missions with bad categories

This is just currently, good chance ui will be better then cell max if They do a dodge Did able Turn 6-7 fight for tanabata part 2. 5 Isn't an insult considering the competition

gohan for me🙂‍↕️