Check out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store Longshot's Channel: kzfaq.info/love/szke4C7G1THhlh0puHWZ1g I really did not enjoy this fight lol, it was probably one of the hardest and longest fights I've done in DCS I'm just happy with the lucky kill, I'm sure those of you who are well versed in the F-14 in dogfighting could do much better than that I'm kind of interested in practicing again and once again taming the beast that is the Tomcat. Anyway Don't forget to checkout my good buddy longshot's channel Big thanks to him for helping make this video and thank you to all of you for watching. Much Love.

When in doubt, blame Jester..

Lengthy comment of Tomcat wisdom from a mediocre sim pilot: Not trying to backseat fly here, but I exclusively practiced in the F14 for two years now and all I can say is don't pull so much stick and use that rudder to counter the roll reverse (the wobble). Afterall, the tomcat can never respond like a normal aircraft because it doesn't have normal aircraft control surfaces. Rudder and Tailerons are both used for roll. When tailerons are being used as elevators in a turn, it becomes the rudder's job to stabilize the roll axis during the pitch maneuver. The tomcat's strength is not in nose authority, it's purely in the engines. Extend. Take advantage of gravity in your turns. Vertical turns offer that better oblong shape and helps with the energy retention and in gaining AOA when pitching over the top. If you try to hold the cat in a high AOA turn for longer than 10 seconds without giving it any help (gravity assist) it will fight back, plain and simple. I personally don't pull more than half stick in most fights, except for in short bursts no longer than a few seconds when AOA is a must. If you keep descending in the turn and let off of high AOA every few seconds, the bird will respond positively and then you can begin to use it's thrust to gain angles in a rate fight. So let off the stick now and then, keep your opponent distant until you're on their six, get creative with energy (stay fast to avoid wobble), and stay patient man! Also, probably try to not stay in the rolling scissor too long, after 4 or 5 merges you should either throw out the flaps and slats or giver 'er the spurs and extend. I've learned so much from you in my short time in DCS. For that, I thank you! Stay dangerous!

3:59 GS: "Alright, it's time to go" *nonchalantly ejects* The Family in the house that's about the get flattened by the tomcat: 0_0

Hi Sidewinder. I think your issue with the F14 is you are trying to fly it like a modern fighter pulling high alpha as fast as you can. If you slow it down and be a little smoother and slower on the controls I think you will be surprised at what the Tomcat can do. The control surfaces are more efficient between 300-400 knots with wings between 20 and 45 degrees and so that is where you will be most nimble. Likewise if you look at her she is one massive wing which is why she has so much lift. Downside of that is if you pull high alpha then the body becomes a sail and speed brake. Use your mirrors as the wingsweep position will give you your speed and if you start getting contrails over your engine intakes you are pulling too hard. Fly it like a spit rather than the hornet and you will dominate! Have faith in the 14, she may take longer to learn and be less forgiving but she can beat any aircraft in DCS.

4:07 some kid playing in his backyard Le F-14 : & his name is John Cenaaaaaaa *kaboom*

"This is really gonna piss me off" Lmao

Dude. First fight you left your Tomcat parked in some guy's living room.

"...I lost visual and he's teleported behind me..." :-D LOL

"God I wish I had some fox 2s..." LOL! Seriously LOVED this one, although I confess my enjoyment was largely derived from your frustration. Good fun.

Gotta use the high Pilot radar mode so you can lock him above the HUD when your pulling around into him, helps a ton I use it all the time when in any sort of circle fight EDIT: VSL High

In this aerial battle, he repeated a makeshift maneuver without thinking about the situation ahead.

This was great flying on both your parts! Thanks for doing this video! About a year ago you did a video about best dogfights in DCS and never mentioned the M2KC. Knew this was coming and enjoyed it very much. Thanks again, great fight!

Every Growling Sidewinder video that has an F-14 in it: When the F-14 loses: :( When the F-14 wins: :)

Got dammit mustang! This is Ghost Rider 117, this bogey is all over me.

FINALLY THANK YOU

I think this is my personal all time fav video on youtube! Thank you so much bud for doing this!

However torturing this may be for gs....hes giving us great content! This guy is my favourite airplane channel, he deserves at least a million subscribers

That one had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, as frustrating as that may have been for you it was REALLY entertaining to watch.

Come on baby work with me. There we go yea.- Growling Sidewinder

HEYYY!!! What are the odds man!? It's awesome of you to do my suggestion! If that's even what happened here. Lol Thanks man! Love the video as always and I apologize for all of the pain you suffered through to make this. Lol

The gratification in your voice when you finally knock out the Mirage! LOL, nice one Dude!

Another awesome video my friend. Thanks for getting me through a crappy winters night in lockdown Nottingham

"God Damn Mirage" LOL, I always say that from the F-16 cockpit. You got balls trying to attack that agile airframe from the F-14 :)

I gotta admit, your intro was hilarious GS! Cuz I remember when the tomcat was the shiznit! "Everyone runs and hides when the Tomcats come out to play" he said... you can't beat it in BVR, or a turn fight and when you win in a Tomcat you get such a sense of accomplishment because you had to work for it. haha, Another Great video bro! keep pushing your frustration zone and hope your day goes better :)

You know it's over when you hear the emergency hydraulics kicking in

Amazing🙂 I've been repeatedly browsing through your videos, waiting for this to happen 😁

Dude the 2nd fight was ridicolously intense and super cool. Good fight from both of you. Thx 4 the vid

I was praying for you so hard man! It was such an intense dogfight! My anxiousness got to 100 in the 2nd round xD Great content man, cheers!

Use rudder to stay coordinated in turn instead of //sideslip->shake->fight reversal->induce oscilation// loop as Tomcat doesn't have FBW to automatically stay coordinated for you.

11:12 the way he turn against you after that pass... really good

Great fight! You both worked like hell and did good! Thanks for sharing :)

More verticality with the Tomcat against the Mirage, after a 1 circle Turn he can't follow the Tomcat and the 30mm shells should fall short. Easier said than done, but you did more of that in the second fight and created him a lot more problems. Great stuff, keep practicing on the Tomcat, you get the hang of it really fast.

I've been waiting for this fight for ages man! Such different aircraft, I knew it would be very interesting fight. I feel your pain in the cat, I lost visual so many times. Excellent flying from both of you. The other thing I've always been curious about is the tomcat and viper in a rate fight. I've always heard both are really good but I've never seen them compete. But anyway, great video with two of my favourites. Love your vids, I've learnt loads from them and can't wait for the next.

You had to have some serious patience and skill to pull that off. It was great to watch.

I've been flying the F-14 a lot lately in Liberation. I always equate it to trying to dogfight in a city bus with wings. It was nice seeing it isn't just me that rides the F-14 struggle bus. Haha. Good video

Your hands were sweating? I was shaking in my damn seat, and I'm drunk :-D awesome fight!! Never seen you fight so hard for a kill before. Great video.

ooooh the Sidewinder is growling indeed! I've never seen you this frustrated before lmao.

Hi GS, I want to say you convinced me to get into DCS!

I saw 'Paco' Chierichi's interview who fought F-14A against Mirage 2000 quite often. He said, it all came down to surviving the first turn after the merge where the Mirage 2000 would pull extremely tightly, but with the delta wings it bled energy very quickly and once the pilot in the F-14 survived the first 9g turn, the tables would turn where the F-14 had the energy advantage both in the vertical, slow speed and in a turn-rate fight.

I didn't know the f-14 had a rocking chair for an ejection seat.

Use the FORCE! In this case... USE THE RUDDER! Stay coordinated! Load the wing and turn with rudder input ONLY (at low speed)

I don’t think I ever saw you have to work so hard for a kill!

thanks for so many uploads lately!

the f14 doesn’t respond well to being flown like a fly-by-wire, she’s an old style hydraulics aircraft and as such should be flown more like a war bird than a modern aircraft

Man i love this channel, thanks for suffering through this for us mate

O.M.F.G I was SO HAPPY for you to get that kill in the 2nd round! I was swearing as much as you were in that fight! It was SO close on a few occasions!

"You almost got him *n times! " basically summarized my reaction XD

You have right wing flaps broken after the fight, same as I have almost after every dogfight with F-14 :-). Its hard to manage flaps when fighting. The next thing is that after the patches Heatblur made F-14 maneuverability worse, whith is annoying. Nice job Growl !!!

What's amazing is in fight #2, you did what you did because you could. Likewise, the Tomcat did what it did because it could. The Viper, Hornet, Eagle and others can not do what you and the Cat did. It is an accomplishment, an impressive accomplishment.

"Ya gotta like... build a relationship with it." LOL!

I absolutely loved this vid Growl. As a big Tomcat fan an aviation geek in general, I've been following you around for a while. This fight was absolutely exciting especially round 2! Just a question, the Tomcat seems very wobbly since the latest update. Would the Tomcat have the same challenge fighting the Mirage before the update? I've seen you fly against planes like the Hornet and Flanker but never noticed the instability of the Tomcat before. Care to explain?

Your relief was evident on that 2nd round. Never give up .. Never surrender. Haha keep em coming ;)

4:00 This is how you make Ace Combat narrators

Thankyou very much for uploading it made my day

Been waiting for this, great video!

love the content man keep up the good work!

I love the video sidewinder I just bought the f 14 tomcat version of DCS so we may cross ways in the skies

This channel deserves at least a millions subs.

Longshot trying to play with his food, but the food fight back

I feel like your experience in the F-14 would be dramatically improved if you spent like a day or so learning to fly it :) At least 7 minutes in any way, all that shaking and instability is kind of on you - and I say that with all the love and respect in the world :)

Next time Growling in the Tomcat Até in the Mirage 😵

I like how the mirage fights falling and decending with its nose looking at you.

Was very Stressful even as i watched, but was relieved at the end of the second round. Tomcat pilots are probably THE GOAT.

That was some hard fighting. Well done to you in Round 2 for getting him. I feel like you may have been pulling the trigger a little too late on most of those shots...? I get the lack of visibility probably hindered that quite a lot of a bit, though. Plus I don't know jack on the ACM...haven't even gotten the chance to even do some self-training in my F-5 yet... And well...you know what Napoleon said about a guy with luck...

You earned that second fight.

14:17 lmfao you Jiizzed everywhere for like a minute. Good video

it's shaking like you're driving an LLV on the highway, trust me that's some scary shit

The A4 has a tighter turn ratio than the M-2000C actually had. One second of respect for all those TOPGUN graduated pilots. Proving that is possible to kill wasps with a cannon.

I think this is the very first time, since I suscribed to this channel a year ago, that watch one of your fights and you were really, RRRREEEAAALLLLYYY pissed off hahahahaha. I was just waiting the "shitty game" line. DUDE, I thought you were going to lose that second round, but you got him in the end: awesome. You may have had a hard time because of the aircraft differences, but Longhsot is a great pilot.

That F-14 shaking shaking bruh gah damn

Your right slats got jammed open you can see it at 15:03 and even at 12:37 right after you got hit. I know the tomcat has lots of problems with wing rock but that couldn't have helped. Other than that it was a very entertaining fight to watch, love your content!

The last fight reminded me the animation "Path of hate". Long and intense. X d

bruh whenever the tomcat shakes its like your on an old rollercoaster lmfao.

One of the best fights, very entertaining.

I’ve only ever had decent luck at slow speeds in the cat by deploying flaps below 250 and retracting above that, but the downside is that you also have to look down into the cockpit to catch the speed. Against a small opponent, I could see myself either losing sight or leaving the flaps down and breaking them.

Second battle was better than what Top Gun could even script. Hard fought! Better to be lucky than good as some say...NOT sayin GS isnt good...just that luck came in and he took it as ANY pilot would! Buffeting and exceeding individual wing critical angle with 'wing down' input. Hence the oscillation. At low speed and high load, his input to raise each wing spoileron effectively stalls that wing and it reverses the input of what he wants. He corrects and does the same on the other wing and the previously stalled wing regains lift since its spoileron retracts. Id love to know the fuel burn for that fight. What did you end up with at the end @Growling Sidewinder? When you won, the 'victory' music automatically played in my head haha. You earned that!!

Brand new player in DCS. Made my first purchase the other day. This video made me infinitely happy that I ended up choosing the Hornet over the Tomcat :) I don’t know that I’m ready to tame that beast!

Could you please do a fight in the MiG-21? I don’t think you ever did one before where you were piloting it, and its a great plane, and lots of fun. Maybe against an F-5?

The relationship between the airframe mechanic and the pilot will be a shit show for all those stress man. Lol 😂 thank you and rock 🤘

13:06 what would've happen if instead of you reversing the turn you kept turning? he would've gotten in your 6 yes but wouldn't you be able to turn faster so that even with the mirage AoA he couldn't get the shot on you?

Very good job man! :-)

I kinda feel like before the kill in the 2nd fight you were dead inside already. Nice fight!

Great. That was realy fun. And this is how it should be and we see all that AoA, ratefight and two circle. Saw in a comment F15, and that is on my wisch list. F15vsF14. Or 1of th vsF5. Great peforming both of you 👍

XD it fun to see a less calm side of you

you had me at "god damn mirage" haha.

On the plus side, you managed to take out a block of apartments at 4:10.

I absolutely love the 14..but in close dogfights it's tough..your a dam good pilot though..love your videos

2nd tac. You should show the high speed view more often. Really demonstrates what an all out heavy weight knock down you were in. WOW!

Very interesting fights on flying post-coach.

GS talking to F-14 is something to watch!! 😂

You’ve lost that loving feeling..

was waiting for this one

yessss.....YEEEEESSSSS. I can hear your happiness right there :) U both did well. Entertaining as always^^

Imagine explaining it to the poor guy living in that house "Hello sir, about that tomcat that just lawn darted into you backyard, it's complicated, but could you please not tell anyone about what happened here? Also, here is a $10 bill I happen to have that might help you out with the repairs..."

great fighting sidey windey

Hard fought win sir, I'm watching it, and I was worried.

F-14 "Dual shock" Tomcat.

Amazing fights! Well done! Why does the cat shake and flip-flop so much?

This is just too fun to watch. Seems like youre drunk or something, never seen you so pissed before lol