F-16C Viper: ALQ-184(Short) ECM Pod, Jamming & Being Jammed Tutorial | DCS WORLD
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@larsgulbrandsen9441 2 жыл бұрын
Getting jammed by EW aircraft in naval exercises was always fun, you knew you were in some tense moments when half your'e radar screen went white :D
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
cool
@telesniper2 Жыл бұрын
Getting to play with the AN/ALQ-99 all day (intermediate troubleshooting) was one of the fonder memories of my time in the Navy. 6705, Consolidated Automated Support System Operator Maintainer and Calibration Technician. I know all of its secrets 🙂 In some instances I would have go check out an M9 from the armory as you needed to be armed when certain classified materiel is in your possession. The fun part is it counted as an armed watch on the duty roster, killed two birds with one stone.
@harrystone8847 2 жыл бұрын
The -184 has been around for a long time. I was installing them on F-111 aircraft in the 80's. We used a 3 band pod, because the F-111 had decent on board ECM (for the time). The controls were completely different for the F-111. Biggest issue we had was the front flat radome on the middle module (based on the picture in the video) would cave in due to wind loading. An updated radome was tested and put into service. A major important feature of the -184 was that it was programmable in the field. New threat, new program. Could upload it to the pod in about 5 minutes.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Harry!
@L0ck0nStr4t0s 2 жыл бұрын
yea but since the long pods the ability is pretty crap next to what DRFMs can do these days.
@user-hj5pk1kz3o 2 жыл бұрын
home-on-jam In this mode, if the missile seeker loses its function after being interfered by the ECM pod jammer, it will switch to passive search for the jamming source. The missile will fly towards the jamming source until it hits the target. For this reason, most modern fighters use optical fiber towed decoys such as ALE50-ALE55. Optical fiber towed decoy ALE50 has a DRFM digital radio frequency memory and huge RCS signal reflection to drag behind the fighter’s buttocks to attract incoming missiles. Fiber towed decoy replaces chaff. General fighter jets may carry 4 optical fiber towed decoys.
@radoslawbiernacki 2 жыл бұрын
Guys you absolutely kick other tutorials right into nuts. As always, straight to point with ultimate practical details. You're the best!
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
that's a nice thing to say :)
@L0ck0nStr4t0s 2 жыл бұрын
lol damn I actually was an ECM pod troop in the airforce. Worked on 131s, 184s, 188 training pods but got to spend my last 8 years on 167 and DLQ 9 pods. DRFM tech sure is cool and programming modes from scratch is rewarding. Used to control them in the air on training/ Test missions too.
@angelarch5352 2 жыл бұрын
So cool and informative! Thank you for this vid and the explanation of it all!
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@Infected_Fox Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help . Well explained💯👍
@tomhandal2834 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my Winwing set. Super Taurus and super libra with extension and mounts. Looking forward to getting it.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@MrT-hk9wn 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks!
@kenhelmers2603 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cap & RC
@sheheryarkhan5567 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@Jscaff859 Жыл бұрын
Bro you always hit the nail on everything in dcs and you make it so understandable for people learning dcs and every aspect of the jet, thanks brother i appreciate it
@-_Nuke_- 2 жыл бұрын
Man I can't wait for TFY and FLIR to come online!
@olroxmo4050 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Cap.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Pleasure
@Verathuum 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to see how it compares to the JF-17’s jammer
@ej123a 2 жыл бұрын
lol ive been playing this new update for a while and i ddnt know you have to cms aft until i watchd your video.😂
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
whoopsy! :)
@gunlovingliberal1706 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious how much of an advantage the ALQ-184 gives in terms of being locked. When flying the Su27 I found ECM gives about a 3-5 mile advantage in terms of being locked and fired on ( at angels 20-30 and hot). This is helpful, but not a game changer.
@PiSkiS320 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Cap thanks for the video! On other subject, have you noticed the air to air tacan (air refueling) not working with the latest update, or is it just me? All the best for 2022!
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Will try, thanks for heads up.
@verycursedplane6557 Жыл бұрын
Will you make a video explaining the Long?
@S1lverspike 2 жыл бұрын
F18 has it built in 🥴
@MaxamillionSterling 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance that you can add the Boeing EA-18G Growler to the lineup of aircraft that you would use in your simulations?
@jkasiron2275 2 жыл бұрын
Still catching up with your Taiwan Wargaming series, but just reading more about the technical side of the ALQ-184 and it seems Taiwan got the first foreign sales of this pod for its F-16s in the 90's. Just an interesting coincidence, but it's cool the devs are aware of the plight of simulated Taiwan/Cypress and want to help.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Cool thx
@TheOfficial007 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't followed the dev very closely for the f16. What would the other slot carry besides the fuel/JMR/TGP?
@beckmaxman6466 2 жыл бұрын
There is only one man who would dare give me the raspberry!
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOOONESTAR!
@SuperJeb98 Жыл бұрын
Long vs short and pros and cons of this over the other pod (earlier timeframe)?
@notravstar 2 жыл бұрын
Is a video about the new hmcs steer point / ag system on the way?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Will record that with RC tomorrow, sorry for delay.
@notravstar 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers no rush, thanks for the update!
@KjllShot 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I've got a question/request, ive had a look and there doesn't seem to be anything on this so hopefully it hasn't been covered already, but is it possible to use the a4 shrike agm against enemy air to air radar? I'v tried it myself but I'm not proficient enough at dcs to know if I'm giving it the best chance of working or not.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Will investigate but if modelled correctly should only be able to track ground frequencies.
@TheKenigham 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Does ECM work to break an active missile's lock heading towards you? is it a good defense against missiles?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but only at ranges above 25 miles. Useless within.
@FGtitlis 2 жыл бұрын
yes it is called a burn-through
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
rgr
@kensteadman8707 2 жыл бұрын
Do the 6 antennas have directionality? Like do 1, 2, and 3 correspond to the front aspects? Wondering if using only a couple antennas increases the maximal power output? Or do the correspond to frequency range channels?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
In real life yes but apparently not modelled in game yet.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Direction.
@caesarstokes5683 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how effective this is for the AMRAM missile housing radars. Once the AMRAM coverts to T timer its using its own radar. im sure it cant be more powerful than the f16 onboard radar. Interesting.
@auqanova 2 жыл бұрын
Question: do missiles have different burn through ranged for their radar, meaning that jamming may effect them when they go pitbull? I don't expect it to be much better than chaff for protection, but it could be be good Bonus Question: the hornets jammer irl works very different from simpler noise jammers, is this difference modeled in any capacity? Bonus question 2: do different radars of modernish planes have different burn through ranges(ie mig 29, hornet, viper)
@UptownDegree 2 жыл бұрын
I would expect the missile radar to be able to burn through at pitbull range.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
1) doubt a jammer affects a Fox3 within pitbull range, but not tested 2) all jammers in game just volumetric noise jammers 3) yes, seems to depend on radar power output or something similar BUT beware not fully implemented in all planes yet so expect weird results.
@michaelwestmoreland2530 Жыл бұрын
Wait. Wingman jamming? TAG TEAM jamming? God damn...Electronic Warfare sounds like it's own entire world we've never simulated before.
@minaeshak2605 5 ай бұрын
Can modes one and two jam radars in TWS ?
@dannyd7714 2 жыл бұрын
Something worth mentioning, if you do get fired on, turn your ECM pod off with CMS right, as some missiles have a homing to ECM source feature.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Alkaline1989 2 жыл бұрын
Does it mess with GPS at all? Real world example: On the prowler with the ALQ-99 our aircrew had to "decouple" the gps and just use INS otherwise there was the potential to ruin the EGI's.
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing. No idea TBH
@hphp31416 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think GPS is really implemented in DCS, it works like magic now.
@virtualunitedpilot 2 жыл бұрын
what kind of jam does it give? strawberry? blueberry? cranberry? grape?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@eatthisvr6 3 ай бұрын
doesnt it have internal jammer?
@georud54 2 жыл бұрын
Is mode 1 or 2 any use against a radar using TWS and fox 3 missiles?
@ATP-Flo 2 жыл бұрын
No because in TWS they don't lock up on you and thus the jammer will not gl active. The missile goes active at some point and the jammer will kick in. Don't know what happens to the missile then though. I guess it just homes on jam and kills anyway. So no, the Jammer will only work against STT locks or when in mode 3.
@arguy3297 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATP-Flo yeah missile would be within 10nm for the most part and burn through
@TomislavGudelj 2 жыл бұрын
@@arguy3297 Don't be so sure, jammers have far more power at their disposal then active radar seeker, burn through is far from guaranteed at distance where seeker would turn on and acquire the target.
@arguy3297 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomislavGudelj it's a game and I'm just going off my experience.
@swedishbones8937 2 жыл бұрын
Is it raspberry or strawberry jam? Or something else? You didn't cover this part!
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
hehe
@vaclavvacin9938 20 күн бұрын
I have a problem when i use it for multiple takeoff it usualy disable my radar that it only works in close combat (boresight) not bvr. Any tips how to fix that ?
@British_Dragon-Simulations 7 күн бұрын
XMIT 1 doesn't stop your FCR from working. Only 2 & 3 does. The ALQ-184 doesn't work withing visual range.
@jayphi4095 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation about the presently simulated stuff but don’t try extrapolating explanations at the end of video about relationship between radars and jammer you are fully outside the reality …..globally speaking and compared with FC radars, while F16 radar is far from being fully simulated (lack of VS and ULS for example but the mod is not finished…), EW and particularly ECM behavior is very poorly simulated in DCS. Even staying in open source area it could be done much better by ED and mod providers.
@torjones1701 2 жыл бұрын
So... SPJ1 is Strawberry, and SPJ2 is Raspberry? If you are Jamming, can you be targeted by HARMs or similar?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
LONESTAR!!!!! neg, ground targets only.
@firebird2743 2 жыл бұрын
Will a HARM lock onto an aircraft that is jamming?
@dannyd7714 2 жыл бұрын
HARM's don't target planes.
@ATP-Flo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Neg, HARM can only track ground unit radar frequencies. Plane freqs are very different.
@jimmywan87 2 жыл бұрын
But you can still get data from link 16, right? Stupid question, can you lock and launch just using link 16 data?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Not in this era of plane, in a Super Hornet/F35 etc yes
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
^^ at least that I am aware of.
@jimmywan87 2 жыл бұрын
Coz in the rather realistic gripen E/F promo video it seems that one aircraft can dictate which aircraft to engage which enemy.
@calmterror 2 жыл бұрын
Does having more then one pod do anything?
@neelz 2 жыл бұрын
No
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
It will only ever use 1.
@Chetan_Joshi 2 жыл бұрын
Can it break the lock when the opponent is locking in TWS mode?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but I believe you have to use XMIT mode 3.
@Chetan_Joshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers thanks!!
@PeteV80 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference between short and long?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
none
@RichardG713 Жыл бұрын
Low band in long pod.
@tenevas666 2 жыл бұрын
Pas de vidéo en Français ;) et je comprends rien. Dommage
@thatsnotpunny4921 2 жыл бұрын
hey cap, new war games idea. modern US civil war - Trump tries to overthrow Biden?
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
eek may get in trouble for that one...
@British-Dragon-Simulations 2 жыл бұрын
"I agree!"
@eckiger_luki6424 2 жыл бұрын
:D
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