F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 Felon | Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator

F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 Felon | Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

F-15STOL/MTD VS NGAD

@leonardoXDSWL Жыл бұрын

does the DCS take into account the six radars of the Su-57?

@psycho3v345 Жыл бұрын

Can u remake the 3 ufo 🛸 shot down

@dimitri1154 Жыл бұрын

Love these videos, unfortunately the comments section turns into a pissing contest 😀

@hkguitar1984 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic GS, a very tight engagement, I was on the edge of my seat after you made the merge.

@veldrin055 Жыл бұрын

F-22's 5th generation stealth was a massive factor in its recent 4-0 engagements with balloons and UFOs

@recon17 Жыл бұрын

3-0. The 4th ufo/uap was shotdown by an f-16.

@eeeeeek Жыл бұрын

@@recon17 so now f16 got stealth too??

@recon17 Жыл бұрын

@@eeeeeekyou don't need stealth to shoot down a high altitude object, just the ability to fly really high. F-16 has a great t/w ratio. Btw, the object that the F-16 shot down was flying lower than the one that was shot by the F-22.

@tbmdd Жыл бұрын

F-22 3-0 SU-57 0-0

@daxili9322 Жыл бұрын

considered all the balloons cost ~$100 bucks/each, F-22's suffered huge lost

@constablemittens Жыл бұрын

Its a good thing your optical radar defeated the stealth on those power lines last second.

@leonardoXDSWL Жыл бұрын

does the DCS take into account the six radars of the Su-57?

@maverickmissile801 Жыл бұрын

@@leonardoXDSWL dawg what 💀

@williamphillips24 Жыл бұрын

@@maverickmissile801 I think he's referring to the side arrays. It allows them to turn away to a certain degree and still provide guidance to the missiles but as the range and power isn't as high as the main radar in the nose it's mostly for maintaining awareness.

@zachornsby285 Жыл бұрын

Dude he’s talking about how he almost hit the power lines 😂 you guys are slow, OPTICAL RADAR = his eyes 👀 cuz he saw it at the last second

@maverickmissile801 Жыл бұрын

@@zachornsby285 the main comment is... Yes we understand the joke and it's quite funny but we weren't talking about that.

@HM-yh6ys Жыл бұрын

I never get tired of Felon vs Raptor 😄

@ogFIEND Жыл бұрын

Raptor vs. anything is an automatic click for me

@tlndblood8776 Жыл бұрын

Personally I prefer fourth gen but these are still an automatic click for me.

@user-tm5pn3ov9o Жыл бұрын

Imagine if they had a YF23 in DCS

@beanieteamie7435 Жыл бұрын

If only DCS was even a remotely accurate 5th gen sim.

@gamerboy7820 Жыл бұрын

It’s the opposite for me

@wipplewopple1876 Жыл бұрын

Something you did well at hinting at throughout the video is that Stealth doesn't strictly mean undetectable, but rather very hard to achieve weapons-grade lock.

@sety5591 Жыл бұрын

@@nickhayley probably because accurate radar is short wave, but short wave is absorbed by stealth paint, while long wave is not as accurate, but is not absorbed by stealth paint.

@icaleinns6233 Жыл бұрын

whoops, I should have read the comments before I put up my own. My comment exactly mirrors yours, only with a tick more techno speak. Nice one!

@PhilipTrouble Жыл бұрын

@@nickhayleytheres a difference between seeing an enemy on radar and seeing it so crystal clear that you can precisely guide a missile onto it

@MrOtistetrax Жыл бұрын

People think Stealth means "invisible" but really it's a spectrum of Low Observability.

@zachary_smith1 Жыл бұрын

Yea there’s some great videos out there talking about this. There not invis to early warning long range radar rather invis to a lot of missle locks.

@fanman71 Жыл бұрын

Epic battle. It was crazy how off bore his missile essentially did a complete 180 & almost took you out.

@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын

Ya the archer is a scary missile

@danielayers3054 Жыл бұрын

I know right, I never really seen one do that before either.

@IcyBliels Жыл бұрын

Those Archers are straight out of Wanted

@bojned Жыл бұрын

@@danielayers3054 Israeli python missiles do that regularly.

@b2spirita Жыл бұрын

@@bojned why are they launching so far off boresight regularly?

@marendur Жыл бұрын

"Give up Felon, I have the high cloud!"

@bernardsoh3559 Ай бұрын

I heard that in the voice of Ewan McGregor

@dystopianlucidity4448 Жыл бұрын

GS my dude, if you need time for a break for health, your very real fan base will stand behind you and wait for a video, family and health come first my man! As an addendum, I admire the dedication you have put into providing us with outstanding videos.mad respect from Rob in Florida.

@braedynhoward3644 Жыл бұрын

Is he having health issues?

@dystopianlucidity4448 Жыл бұрын

@@braedynhoward3644 it sounds like he has a stuffy nose. Also his energy is a little off.

@braedynhoward3644 Жыл бұрын

@@dystopianlucidity4448 Oh ok. Yeah I noticed. Your comment had me worried though XD

@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын

Love you guys, I took 4 days off so far getting over this cold and I love making these videos so I’m literally excited to be back doing it, maybe a little too early cuz it seems everyone can tell I was out with a cold 😆

@Endelin Жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder The stealth on your cold totally failed. Get well soon!

@agera.rs7 Жыл бұрын

Finally a very hard fight. The felon made the critical mistake of being toooooo slow, probably miscalculated, and you ended up just above him

@S1lverarrow Жыл бұрын

skill

@MrTesteur Жыл бұрын

the frelon made the mistake of dropping shtlds of flares way too early as well

@Ripa-Moramee 10 ай бұрын

@@MrTesteurpre flaring is important

@lukeari9890 10 ай бұрын

He was banking on that missile hitting

@michaelpascual3581 Жыл бұрын

The howl of the Felon as he searched for you is so badass. Badass as always, GS.

@mattt525 Жыл бұрын

Thing sounds meannnn

@callsingadder Жыл бұрын

The su-57 sound is just perfect

@syper51 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are so entertaining… thanks for being somebody i can watch when i feel like junk. You are a very underrated channel. Your the reason I’m in to DCS. Thanks man

@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын

Very nice of you man, Thank you for watching, I appreciate your support. Much love.

@Umairy76470 Жыл бұрын

And very informative as well

@mysticboy3373 Жыл бұрын

Same here. (Btw to every comment that says that at least the Su-57 shot down a fighter which the f-22 did not yet. Well, the US didn't deploy the f-22 on a fighter yet because there wasn't a target that was worth the F-22's presence. The F-22 will always be superior to the Su-57).

@plutoidrepublic2765 Жыл бұрын

if u need any comfort im here

@caimanaraujo479 Жыл бұрын

Dude this was one of the best videos you made, so engaging and tense, with great editing, explanations, close calls, and something I will always love: BVR fight to Dogfight. Its just so cool to see how would it be possible for a dogfight to take place in a more realistic setting, instead of a duel. This is just badass.

@herbderbler1585 Жыл бұрын

Looks like the Su-57 is a pretty solid peer to the F-22 in DCS. Victory will come down to the skills of and strategy of the pilot.

@NoahDVS Жыл бұрын

He said in the beginning that he reduced the stealth of the F-22 for this video though.

@niko7903 Жыл бұрын

@@NoahDVS Exactly, in previous engagements the Felon had noticeably more difficulty gaining a solid track. This was a bit more fun.

@ary2407 Жыл бұрын

And the luck

@S1lverarrow Жыл бұрын

@@NoahDVS yes but in this simulator I dobt they programed the Su-57 with 5 radar as it is in reality, in reality Su-57 got 5 radars palced all over its body, increasing situation awareness, and allow it to guide misslie even when looking away. 3 S-brand radar and 2 L-brand radar with better stealth detection. Nobody know how that would work yet, so there is no way to program it in DCS.

@user-bw6jg4ej2m Жыл бұрын

@@S1lverarrow yeah-yeah, _on paper_ they're the world's 2nd army...

@atreus7839 Жыл бұрын

Honestly one of the best modern style dogfights you’ve given us so far. great content. As usual. Those close calls were amazing.

@KZ-se4ik Жыл бұрын

We'll never know till actual combat occurs, but the consistency with which the SU57 seems to get a firing solution first in this and other engagements is surprising, and given what I've read, a little suspect.

@little_error295 Жыл бұрын

It has the longest range AA kill also it has enormous L band radars all along both of its wings so that helps 😂

@ltcuddles685 Жыл бұрын

Extremely suspect even. It's their first generation of airborne AESA radar, while the F-22 is on a 4th generation AESA with lots of real world testing and the world's best microprocessing and programming available to improve it. Both modules are just mods though, so consistency on either is dubious at the very best.

@reboundrides8132 Жыл бұрын

This is dcs. They aren’t even real flight models they are mods. This is not anywhere close to how a real scenario would play out.

@nobleman-swerve Жыл бұрын

@@little_error295 Yeah coming from Russia which has claimed to have shot down more fixed-wing Ukrainian assets than the Ukrainians actually have I'm not too sure if I believe that. Especially considering the bloody thing is still hasn't been cleared for active service.

@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын

What has the longest air to air kill? Not the Su57. They are not and likely never will be front line fighters. FFS, there are all of 11 "production" aircraft. 21 total if you count prototypes. It's the T14 Armata of the sky.

@heyidiot Жыл бұрын

5:00 Judging from that sonic boom, if they could look out their window and see an F-22 fly under those power lines, the window would already be broken.

@Mcree114 Жыл бұрын

And the powerlines blown off the poles probably.

@bojned Жыл бұрын

And they would have shattered glass in their face.

@covahredro8370 Жыл бұрын

@@Mcree114 No those ones are too big and well sunk into the ground for that to happen. Would certainly make them vibrate though.

@covahredro8370 Жыл бұрын

I doubt it, would have to be right underneath the flight path. I've had F16s blast over the place I used to live, it just made the windows(and every else)rattle pretty hard. Though I have heard people say they've had windows broken, but in those instances the jet blew straight down low right over their house.

@bojned Жыл бұрын

@@covahredro8370 In your opinion, how low should he be flying if he is going under power lines already? 😂😂

@moonage_ Жыл бұрын

The SU-57's howl sounds incredible in DCS

@joshr.8010 Жыл бұрын

dogfights are cool but the bvr stuff is so fascinating to me

@ruehl3853 Жыл бұрын

By the end I was celebrating like my team had won World Cup. Personally id always stick to the ww2 stuff these Missles aren’t for me 😅

@nathaniellazo5912 Жыл бұрын

5:00 Nice cinematic of dodging the powerlines!! That was close.

@F0X_two Жыл бұрын

Oh well, you don’t sound too good… get well soon GS, and take a break if necessary! ❤ But still got to admire the dedication

@jaype331 Жыл бұрын

I swear bro everyone in America just got sick. I've seen several KZfaqrs all sound sick at the same time including me and my family and my friends

@ThunderChunky101 Жыл бұрын

It's being locked indoors for so long.

@GorillaCookies Жыл бұрын

I have trouble believing Russian claims about their Military capabilities. Especially their aircraft capabilities. They have a very long history of exaggerating their capabilities

@gfl7lion718 Жыл бұрын

I just love the 5th gen fighter videos! They are always just so different and you never know what to expect

@Eduzumaki Жыл бұрын

One of the best videos i've seen since a long time. Thank you so much for the great quality content. Been here since 2020 and never seen such a good fight as this one.

@Zgaming8557 8 ай бұрын

I strongly suspect Russia's ability to break F-22 stealth is overstated, and I strongly suspect the Su-57 isn't as good as we think it is.

@frostedhams 4 ай бұрын

Just like with the mig 25

@ohger1 2 сағат бұрын

One thing we know as fact is that Russia always exaggerates their capability and the U.S. downplays theirs.

@omgmyspleen3582 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic fight by both parties. Had me at the edge of my seat just watching. Can’t imagine how it must’ve been for you both! Also, rest up man. Hope you feel better soon.

@mattfraynor Жыл бұрын

That’s the most exciting and entertaining dogfight/video I’ve seen on your channel. Great stuff!

@jadedragonfilms8784 Жыл бұрын

His flanker videos get even better

@darrellseike3185 Жыл бұрын

Awesome dogfight! That Archer flying by your plane was crazy! You could hear it!

@codychild2665 Жыл бұрын

Sweet victory! You might -say you almost died 4 times with those power lines. A lifetime of almost is a lifetime of never. 👏

@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын

That’s true loool 4 close calls in this one

@QuestoDomini Жыл бұрын

The felon from what I read as reported have a targeting pod out in front of the canopy that ruins “stealth”, along with all this rivets and naked jet outlets. So not exactly stealth, but perhaps “stealthy”.

@ThunderChunky101 Жыл бұрын

"Stealthish"?

@johnnyblack2652 Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderChunky101 "stealth adjacent"

@victorzvyagintsev1325 Жыл бұрын

Common mistake to judge a Felon by the PAK-FA look.

@gaiofattos2 Жыл бұрын

The IRST didn't help the EF2000 against the Raptor It's a short range sensor in a aircraft that will be showing in F-22 radar at +100 km.

@victorzvyagintsev1325 Жыл бұрын

@@gaiofattos2 Simulation fights always come with serious restrictions and thus can't be counted on.

@deanlawson6880 10 ай бұрын

Wow GS!! That was an amazing engagement! Congrats on that win. Hard fought. You definitely earned that one! That was amazing to watch!! Thanks for this!!

@williammartin9254 Жыл бұрын

Pretty intense vid. Loved the fact it went from bvr and ended up in the merge. The ferocity of the tone when it came to the merge definitely makes this my top favorite vid of yours.

@schrodingerscat996 Жыл бұрын

You can think about stealth as a glass: while it's transparent for visible spectrum, it is still solid for infrared and ultraviolet wave lengths. And Su-35/57 and S-300/400 can emit other wave lengths - X-band and L-band. The range of EM wave frequencies object is invisible for is depended on the distance between molecules (look up diffraction formulas), so there is no way to make object stealthy for all the frequencies at the same time

@aleksalukovic4180 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comment, very insightful, you made is very easy to understand!

@gotspeed_ Жыл бұрын

Excellent flying, you make it look so good. Great video and commentary. Keep up the awesome videos.

@jchrystsheigh Жыл бұрын

Incredible fight! So many times that it could have ended fatally for both of you until you finally caught him in that low-energy state and got the kill.

@captainicelander3898 Жыл бұрын

One of the best heavy weight fights i've seen in DCS! Holy Moly!! Great work GS

@tedf7843 Жыл бұрын

SU-57 sounds like a tie fighter sound effect from Star Wars

@I_Show_Freedom69 Жыл бұрын

Another good day since sidewinder uploaded

@WoodliceCC Жыл бұрын

Love these mixed fights, of long range engagement leading to a merged dogfight. Obvs, you can't control if you kill each other at long range or not, but just saying I like your videos that are a bit different from the pure, close range dogfights (but I do love those as well). Also, just to say I've only recently discovered your channel but you've given me hours of entertainment already. THANK YOU!!!!!

@boogermcphee2847 Жыл бұрын

This was the most intense engagement yet. Great video!

@Matterian Жыл бұрын

Absolutely love this video. You got me on the duck under the wires!! I rocked in my chair!! LOL. MORE!!! MORE!!!

@Glow_RL Ай бұрын

How did you get these emojis?

@Matterian Ай бұрын

@@Glow_RL By clicking "Join" and becoming a channel member you get access to these emojis

@Plymouth-Interlocking Жыл бұрын

That was an epic battle! I love that it went to the merge naturally!

@ThunderChunky101 Жыл бұрын

Right?!

@eagle19551 Жыл бұрын

This was a very entertaining , exciting , and suspenseful video. Clearly one of the best I’ve watched . I was in the edge of my seat . Nice job

@zachschaeffer4079 Жыл бұрын

This is my favorite video you have made so far. My brothers and I were watching it on our TV and we were totally intrigued by your amazing skills. Thank you!

@thebushwook1e Жыл бұрын

hey man those SU-57 RCS wood screws really do help with stealth

@nemanja162 Жыл бұрын

Today on shit that never happened 😂

@comareborn8734 4 ай бұрын

T-50 prototype. Production Su-57s don't have those...

@itskaptainmikey4399 Жыл бұрын

This needs to be remade but with Lingshot flying the Felon, he’s much better at flying flanker type jets and I don’t think he would’ve made the same mistake.

@caimanaraujo479 Жыл бұрын

There is already a video of them fighting bvr to dogfight, but the f-22 wasn't capped.

@NateTheGreat187 11 ай бұрын

Maverick already smoked two of them, so…

@murph3194 Жыл бұрын

I love all of these videos but some more than others. This was def one of them. Well done. Always love the F22 and A10 vids but for some reason I think the WWII vids are my fav. Idk why I just love em.

@dillpickle7844 Жыл бұрын

You dipping under those line was ballsy, I love it

@franknitti6328 Жыл бұрын

Interesting fight, I could not imagine the felon could get so close but I think that, if tracking, an R37 missile might be even more dangerous and get closer if compared with the r77 as showed in the video f22 vs mig 31.

@phunkracy Жыл бұрын

In a target heavy environment aka WW3 the ranges suddenly decrease.

@jamesgivens9997 11 ай бұрын

Considering the Radar cross section of a SU57 is the size of a big truck tire and the radar cross section of a F22 is the size of a marble, I would say that the stealth capability of the f22 is quite impressive and accomplishment in itself

@user-gx3nf8xg7q 10 ай бұрын

How do you know the radar cross section of the su 57? Your friends from the CIA? Have you read in the media? Man caricature...

@AZORult 10 ай бұрын

@@user-gx3nf8xg7qsukhoi leaked documents. Quiet, kid. I know it's hard when nobody loves and supports you 💔

@user-hn2oz1cv6f 9 ай бұрын

@@user-gx3nf8xg7q You don't have to be an expert to know the RCS of an F-22 or a Su-57. The main problem is the huge radar ahead of the F-22 or Su-57. This radar reflects the radio signal better than anything in the world because it is designed to receive the signal. So the RCS of these fighters cannot be lower than the diameter of these radars, so it is definitely higher than 0.1, because 0.1 is the diameter of a Tomahawk cruise missile in flight, and the width of the radar is higher than a Tomahawk missile. This is not to mention other signal receivers, which are stuffed with fifth-generation fighters. It is simply impossible to hide this radar anywhere, all developments to reduce the visibility of onboard radars do not give significant results. It is important to realize that such fighters as the F22 and Su-57 achieve maximum effectiveness at high altitude and high speed. In such conditions, their missiles fly significantly farther. And if you know the principle of operation of pulse Doppler radars, you should realize that in such conditions their visibility increases many times. Because of the Doppler effect.) That's why there's no radar on F117 or B2. Stealth on fighters is as much marketing as super maneuverability.

@Greasy__Bear 9 ай бұрын

No body really knows how stealthy the su57. all we know is its probably less than the raptor and more than an su35 with radar absorbent paint. I think it would be foolish to underestimate the su57, especially with the crazy radar they have in the thing.

@xnosniper3874 9 ай бұрын

@@Greasy__Bearthe f-22 is classed as a stealth aircraft while the su-57 is class as low visibility, it isn't even worth comparing these aircraft

@SeaWasp Жыл бұрын

That archer had your number man! That was a tense fight! Way to go 👍

@Clouds_2914 Жыл бұрын

One of the coolest battles on here. I absolutely loved this one.

@lordisback1947 Жыл бұрын

The fun thing about su57 is that it has 3 radars which is n036 x band one on nose and two on sides and 2 transceivers n036 L band on wing leading edge flaps. Now, the radars help it lock on Target or guide on target even while defending itself and the transceivers help it use friend and foe system and electronic warfare. So, i believe DCS su57 is not at all close to the real one and it could be something different and will surprise in future

@NationChosenByGod Жыл бұрын

The same for the F-22 as well.

@s87343jim Жыл бұрын

Yeah, both of them are mods made by the community members

@BOXabaca Жыл бұрын

DCS doesn't go so far as to simulate real RF, so everything the radar/ECM/etc do are contrivances for sim purposes, and often balanced a bit (nerfed) for fair gameplay.

@TOx1CC Жыл бұрын

actually 4 radars, N036 x1, N036B x2 (both cheeks), N036Kh x1 (in the tail section, rear facing)

@dennisa7784 Жыл бұрын

It's so stealthy too that it's never been seen in combat at all

@MattWaller04 Жыл бұрын

This was an EXCELLENT battle! Man, really feel like the only reason you won here was luck. Sometimes that’s all you need!

@danielayers3054 Жыл бұрын

GS that was an awesome showcase and flying underneath those power lines...you are ready for Top Gun, really nice set of skills you have young man.

@FenrisSulfr Жыл бұрын

Damn dude that was an awesome fight!! keep it up!! hopefully in the future some more CAS A-10 vids^^

@itsdokko2990 Жыл бұрын

oh man, i didn't know the SU-57 has intake noises like the Avro Vulcan used to have, that howling sure is great pyschological warfare. and that fight had me on the edge!

@reboundrides8132 Жыл бұрын

Psychological warfare!? they have one that’s operational and it’s capability has been widely over exaggerated.

@b2spirita Жыл бұрын

@@reboundrides8132 he's just talking about the sound, calm yourself.

@reboundrides8132 Жыл бұрын

@@b2spirita yeah I’m bouncing off the walls over here. This comment is equivalent to the Russian army shouting “ura” in their parade.

@b2spirita Жыл бұрын

@@reboundrides8132 sounds concerning.

@recon17 Жыл бұрын

@@reboundrides8132 now that is over exaggerated.

@csjrogerson2377 Жыл бұрын

Stealth is a relative term which depends on the relative capability of RCS reduction on one side versus increasing power and sensitivity of the radar and its tracking capability on the other. Just depends on which makes the most advances over the other. Then dont forget DCS is just guessing.

@BMP2U 3 ай бұрын

Neeerrddd

@chrisvaughan2462 Ай бұрын

I love how much of a tactical play takes place during the fight, you’re expecting it’s going to be like Top Gun, but it was like the chess game and ending was epic, both fighters are so good that only a mistake decided the fate of the match! Very good video!

@IsraeliDino Жыл бұрын

My oh my, what an excellent video! Loved it, thanks for the faceoff!

@WarriorKidd06 Жыл бұрын

These two planes have been described as two leaves falling in the wind when they face off and it’s so true. Great video

@ronniebauman28 Жыл бұрын

Excited to hear Ryan(Max Afterburner) break this one down with his knowledge and experience. What a battle.

@narcissus79 Жыл бұрын

he probably won't talk too much about the BVR stuff.. most of those tactics are Secret Squirrel 🤫

@myronplatte8354 Жыл бұрын

Hear ye!

@ronniebauman28 Жыл бұрын

@@narcissus79 more like flying squirrel. 😉 I'm sorry. I'll see myself out. Lol

@MPD1337 Жыл бұрын

1 of your best vids my man, I was on the edge of the seat the whole time :)

@TheDrflay3 Жыл бұрын

Love all your videos, but this may be the best one yet.

@HabitualButtonPusher Жыл бұрын

They need to find a way to incorporate the SU57 IRST sensor and IRST sensors on all the jets that have them

@ELITEeliteelite Жыл бұрын

crazy see a jet fly under power lines.llove your vids GS

@darienstinson9023 Жыл бұрын

This DF was fun the F-22 maneuverability is no joke that powerline dip had me laughing I didn't even see it at first 😂

@evicol2117 Жыл бұрын

That "One of us is going to die" is so metal and I'm all for it. The second half of this video goes very hard.

@jaidenheger6190 Жыл бұрын

by the looks of it the felon is more of an energy fighter after making the mistake of being far too slow...like you said its quite the large plane...

@zebimicio5204 Жыл бұрын

The felon isnt really any larger than the f22. If we took the tail tip off, its literally the same length of a raptor By total dimension, the f22 is the lsrgest 5th gen stealth fighter aircraft (its heavier and is thicker than both su57 and j20)

@jaidenheger6190 Жыл бұрын

@@zebimicio5204 thanks for the info...im unsure of jets passed gen 3-4

@qirx5904 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always but can you do a Eurofighter vs F-22 BVR engagement I would love to see that

@bigbenski Жыл бұрын

On a normal day I would have literally no point in watching your videos but you make them so interesting I've been watching them for a while now :) keep it up!

@GriffinGrabow Жыл бұрын

One of the best videos on the channel! Great dog fight

@anggisuwandi2404 11 ай бұрын

Felon actually really did a great job on stealth tech that protected Raptor, Felon even so stealthy that nobody ever seeing it on action nor production, EVER

@pappyman179 10 ай бұрын

Source?

@Veloso1000 10 ай бұрын

@@pappyman179it’s a joke, since they never use it

@darwinism8181 Жыл бұрын

Being able to see stealth aircraft is incredibly old news - seeing and locking are two wholly different things. Of course if you can see it at all you can vector your own aircraft to intercept, and that's honestly the biggest advantage of tracking without a lock. Stealth still has a huge advantage, but the days where people weren't even sure where a stealth attack would come from are long over.

@pauldorfman701 11 ай бұрын

They aren't long over at all and assuming the Russian planes can see our isn't a given either. Red flag the pilots who went up against the raptor said they didn't know it was there until they were hit recently.

@dtar380 3 ай бұрын

10 minutes of fight, thats impresive, and both had to use all their missiles even Sidewinders

@EJoey2006 Жыл бұрын

Epic battle. Great vid. Thx for the great Content GS

@cameronreed1411 Жыл бұрын

The F-22 is an insane aircraft accomplishment if you consider that despite being introduced in 2005, it's still stealthier than our biggest competitor the Su-57 more almost 20 years later.

@shades2.183 Жыл бұрын

Smh

@cameronreed1411 Жыл бұрын

@@shades2.183 what's the problem?

@hritamnath4919 Жыл бұрын

Felon has L band arrays on the leading edges of the wings for detecting stealthy objects. Though not suitable for guiding a missile, they can at least give a general direction and position of a stealth aircraft. Dunno whether it has been implemented in DCS

@victorzvyagintsev1325 Жыл бұрын

It has side arrays and IRST as well

@hritamnath4919 Жыл бұрын

@@victorzvyagintsev1325 side arrays are X band like the main radar! For stealthy targets, IRST and L band arrays will be useful

@victorzvyagintsev1325 Жыл бұрын

@@hritamnath4919 Yes, but at dogfight ranges, x-band will see stealth just fine. Having side arrays means you can hold a lock at a much greater arc. Couple that with what you mentioned and an F-22 is is some serious trouble in a dogfight.

@KyleODonnell5645 Жыл бұрын

That was legitimately stressful. Well done

@takaharatanaka8818 Жыл бұрын

Fun video. You keep making great content for us, thanks for putting in all this hard work GS.

@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you tuning in, thank you.

@vaclavkolar6750 Жыл бұрын

The system russians could use is probably something like Czechoslovakian Tamara radar from 1986. Instead of radiating waves and picking reflected ones, tamara radiates all directions waves that reflect from ionosphere and picks all of them. So instead of picking reflected waves, tamara shows target location where there are no waves accepted back, therefore it doesnt really matter if youre stealth or not, Tamara picks you anyway

@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын

It's a wavelength thing. Lower wavelengths can actually see stealthy aircraft, but targeting radars are higher freq and effectively blind. Though this info comes from Russian evaluation of the F-117.

@fshn4x4 Жыл бұрын

Irrelevant to missile lock * shrug *

@sombraarthur Жыл бұрын

@@fshn4x4 it is not. FIrst firing solutions use lower wavelengths. You can do a dual firing solution missile (it is going to cost more, but can be done) where you can combine lower wavelengths to detect with a IR solution to switch to when close to the target. Dual tracking heads are nothing out of the orinary.

@akborealisdevstringerdesig3845 Жыл бұрын

That makes no sense. Maybe the reason why russia hasnt won a dogfight since ww1.

@baronnuuke7821 11 ай бұрын

Actually the stinger use a similar technology. While its main way of seeking it's target is IR, it also cross calculate a profile with negative UV (aka : this point doesn't give me sunlight back). I wouldn't be surprised if you could shoot down a F22 with a Stinger

@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Жыл бұрын

What you said about driving missiles into the ground, I always assumed that radar guided missiles after the 1970s would be smart enough that they detect the ground and simply skim along the ground until the get closer rather than continuing to lose altitude because they would know that the target isn't going to suicide into the ground. Anybody know anything about this?

@phunkracy Жыл бұрын

If the missile dives to the ground it means it doesn't have a target lock. So while it could skim along the ground, it wouldn't know in which direction to skin, making the whole exercise fairly pointless and even dangerous for friendly targets - because the direction where it skims until target lock could be the direction of friendly forces.

@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Жыл бұрын

@@phunkracy Surely more modern missiles don't have this weakness. It's not too hard to program a processor that goes: "ok, I'm heading towards the ground right now, let's not. I'll just fly horizontally towards the aircraft I am targeting and when I get closer then I will prioritise heading directly at it". It's not going to just decide to turn it's heading 100°. You are more or less mapping its 3D route onto a top down 2D one and it ignores the targets altitude change if it is decreasing beyond a certain rate. If there are friendlies in the direction of the target then that is the pilots decision, nothing to do with the missile.

@hotfightinghistory9224 3 ай бұрын

When the raptor said 'ITS RAPTIN TIME' and fired that fox 2 it was the highlight of my day...

@meowkii_ Жыл бұрын

Nothing better than seeing the F-22 pop flares victoriously to the Growling Sidewinder theme music 😎

@XTXImperator Жыл бұрын

The SU-57 should be able to detect the F-22 in BVR with it's 2 L-band AESA radars installed in the wingroots. On their own, they wouldn't be able to give the Felon a firing solution but it would give the rest of the sensors a rough vector to scan a specific part of the sky and possibly get a firing solution that way with it's other 3 AESA radars (X-band) and/or IRST.

@agera.rs7 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@arseniynaumov135 Жыл бұрын

You see, Felon is very close in his abilities. I demand 5 rounds of such a incredible show!

@boostedbadboyzx12r31 Жыл бұрын

Lol it's not close, he handicapped the F-22 to make it close. What do you want, him to take a engine and wing off next?

@mauswaffe Жыл бұрын

@@boostedbadboyzx12r31 Not just that, the Su-57s performace was based on russian sources. In those the plane is far ahead compared to what intelligence reports and leaked development documents suggest.

@nightt4ng077 Жыл бұрын

I just think its insane how at 5:06 you couldnt hear the f-22 until it was past the pov guy. Amazing stealth fighter.

@prohero22 Жыл бұрын

This video had me glued to the toilet. So exciting.

@ardag1439 Жыл бұрын

I don't know whether Russians can see stealth or not, but I was the fifth view on this video so I think my abilities come close.

@Durzo1259 Жыл бұрын

The SU-57 is highly stealthy when its nose is pointed at you, not so much when it turns away.

@Specter690655 Жыл бұрын

F-22 also

@phunkracy Жыл бұрын

That's the philosophy. It either dukes it out with the enemy at long range where stealth matters, or when it close quarters it sacrifices stealth for flight performance.

@fgk765jkh Жыл бұрын

That's the same same for any stealth aircraft moron. Lol 😆

@Durzo1259 Жыл бұрын

@@fgk765jkh Maximum stealth happens when the nose is pointed at you for any aircraft; that doesn't mean all stealth fighters have shit stealth from all other angles (as the SU-57 does), it just means they don't have maximum stealth. Nice display of the most common character trait of the Dunner-Kruger effect: idiots always call everyone else idiots the instant they disagree.

@bigboi5962 Жыл бұрын

Su-57 has a minimum RCS larger than a super hornet, calling it stealthy is a joke

@johnrodriguez569 6 ай бұрын

Keep making these videos bro. Both my son and myself love your videos and how you explain the details behind your dogfights. Again, great work. Shoot out to Longshot as well!

@j.59 4 ай бұрын

Two of the best going at it. I could watch that all day.

@nathangarza2276 Жыл бұрын

Anything that involves the F-22 fighting anything the Raptor always comes out on top

@DynoosHD Жыл бұрын

Could an anti radiation missle work against aircraft radar?

@SonOfAB_tch2ndClass Жыл бұрын

Happened to a B-52 in desert storm it got called in Harms Way. The problem is that Raptor’s AESA Radar change their frequency 1000 times per second so tracking its Radar is not possible

@bowestbrook6527 Жыл бұрын

not necessarily. possibly something like a helicopter or balloon, but they aren't designed to lead a target if i'm not mistaken.

@nocturnalverse5739 3 ай бұрын

Ancient radars can pick up stealth aircraft, but aren't much more useful than that, IIRC. So maybe Russians can tell the Felon pilot that they are going to be eating missiles from whatever oclock.

@slickninjadude9165 Жыл бұрын

Awesome job, you made all us Raptor fan boys proud :)

@teddyoregeno1765 Жыл бұрын

Is it only 360 for everyone?

@michal._.s Жыл бұрын

still waiting for f22 vs UFO's..

@sys3248 Жыл бұрын

NWS rawisonde balloon you mean.

@shades2.183 Жыл бұрын

Felon is an NFO

@matthewconrad4728 Жыл бұрын

Always love your videos but this one had me on the edge of my seat. with all the stuff going on in the world and how much these two planes are getting a lot of attention in the news this was epic. Good show!!