Brilliant strategy from the gates with the F-35's. I think the second run was probably the best for the Eurofighter, it was like a rearguard action in a tactical retreat. If you were really in a Eurofighter up against 5th generation aircraft, that's exactly how you should do business, so hats off to Poosh and the boys for demonstrating damn fine tactics!! The highlights for me though were both in the third round, first when Simba dove, then inverted and dove again over a mountain range to evade a meteor!! Then of course was Matrix for scoring an F-35 kill, as I recall the only one in the match!! Great flying as always Grim Reapers!!

That first round in particular was a textbook example of what I would expect 5th Gen/F-35 doctrine to look like in real life. Very much looking forward to seeing what you come up with for the DAS, Cap. Good matches. Really shows why stealth is worth the added complexity, smaller loadouts, etc.

I'm British. I gotta say the F-35 is my favourite aircraft probably of all-time (sorry Viper). The F-35 is designed to make every other aircraft obsolete. The leap of tech is astounding. I love the Eurofighter as a 4th Gen it really is the best. The Eurofighter has the acceleration and poise of the F-16 with the loadout of the F-15, wonderful combo. The F-35 is something really special IMO, that many people are sleeping on. The reason for all the negative press is because competitors are sh*t-scared of it. The F-35 is the little, more capable sister of the F-22 that costs a lost less. I know the F-35 is like 15% British 5% Other and 80% American. So the girl has some British blood in her, being the UK is the only Level 1 partner alongside USA. Fact is when the F-35 went to Red Flag it performed a 20:1 kill ration more than any other aircraft. Also the F-35 maintains a higher mission capable rate. The F-35 is a do's it all aircraft which I know is always worrying (eggs in one basket), however the F-35 has so much put into it and looking at how it is performing so far I have very high hopes. I know a few have crashed, tho if you look at every other aircraft in first years of operating, the F-35 has crashed way less than those. Some reading about the F-35: theaviationgeekclub.com/1-f-35a-shot-aggressors-red-flag-17-01/ theaviationist.com/2017/02/28/red-flag-confirmed-f-35-dominance-with-a-201-kill-ratio-u-s-air-force-says/

What could possibly be better than this? 60 minutes of this of course! We simply must get more... please :) and thank you!

Well done! Thanks GR

Nice vid from the start keep up the very good work❤😊

I cannot wait for the F-35 update, that will be really nice its such a complex fighter and its nice to see you adding more and more of it.

Those F-35s are already OP and they're still greatly gimped by not having the helmet display that lets the pilot see through the plane. The real things must be truly terrifying to face.

Love these

A good mathematical formula derived from first principles is always elegant. . You can tell when something is 'right' when it has such elegance. The Typhoon is always so elegant in the air.

Hey Cap, i had an idea to test the F35 with in guns only BFM against a rate fighter like the F16; essentially you merge at ridiculously high speed and pull vertical and keep the speed high enough to do super high boom n zoom so if he tries chasing at same speed he can't turn hard enough and if it stays slow you make passing shots. Great content as always

Saw some F35 exercises on a recent trip to the lake district. They're noticeably quieter than earlier jets but also didn't look quite as agile.

Nice, great videos and ideas keep up the great content. Also what mod is the Eurofighter?

Thank you very interesting.

In these 5th va 4th generation fights Cap always says something like "The fifth generation dominates" well, in 4th vs 3rd the 4th generation dominates, in 3rd vs 2nd the 3rd generation dominates. Generational gaps actually mean something, Cap.

Fun, but I do love the Eurofighter. I'm sure you've done all of these videos in solo fashion, but I wonder if it would be entertaining to do group BVR of Eurofighter vs. US 4th-gen in a series of battles (F-15/F-16/F-18). Perhaps a new variable would be testing all of these matchups vs. AIM-260?

My favourite is defiantly the euro fighter such a beautiful and elegant plane, I think it’s todays spitfire in many ways

Seems like the F35 & other stealth fighters would greatly benefit from jettisonable wing pylons, so they can go full stealth after using their external ordanance. (I wonder if the idea was ever researched?) Although in real life it probably wouldn't be so useful (even if it was possible), as missiles are too expensive to send fighters out with large loadouts anyway.

damn good show.

The Typhoon is a beautiful and manuvuerable fighter. I hope when and if the Tempest is built it as pretty and manuvuerable, and those Meteors are just crazy good!! As far as "Fat Amy" is concerned, I know you guys are flying the B model, but I think the US Navy needs a D version, with the big folding wing of the C and the cannon of the Alpha. They need to use the concept of the Meteor AAM and build it into an Anti Radation Missile. That loitering capability would be king in waiting for a SAM system to transmit.

Add to the fact that in the Typhoon what are your opening tactics? Is it you are up against stealth or that there’s nothing there? What do you do? How can you patrol in a way that is safe?

Personally I think the Typhoon is better looking but it's hard to defeat a properly flown 5th gen.

Cannot wait to see the tempest 6th gen fighter, or the type 83 destroyer for which apparently they have 8 planned, finally it’s not so bad number! Not great but not bad either!

interesting to note there is a specific version of the AIM-9x that is designed for the F-35 and it is stealthy, having more of a square angle shape compared to the normal round shape of AAMs. the wing mounted pylon is also stealthy.

I remember them talking about the Euro fighter when I was young around the same time there was a royal navy presentation of the then to be built HMS ocean in school

Though the f-35 is a much better aircraft. The euro- fighter a better looking aircraft. Well to me it is. 👍👾

not gonna be edgy like some people asking but the RWR is kinda important for locating the f35s here so would it be possible to do a rematch once it's working. I think with RWR, IRST and Asraams the eurofighter can win

would it be possible to model towed decoys and BriteCloud Expendable Active Decoy? giving gen 4 aircraft better defences against radar guided weapons.

Round 3: Plans that depend on the enemy overestimating your intelligence are always good.

I wonder if the next gen ASER radar for the Eurofighter will greatly enhance its ability to detect/attack stealth platforms?

In reality Typhoon has a 15,000ft celling advantage over Fat Ami and this not seeing it lark is nonsense - even CAPTOR-M is capable of detecting F-35B at considerable distances. In good conditions ISRT will detect F-35B at about 60 miles passively. So Typhoon could fly in at 65,000 feet giving its missiles much, much longer legs, fire, turn and run before F-35B is in range.

Thanks! Perhaps if you went high but disengaged, fell back and high beyond range and reengaged once 2 down low began getting the attention of the f35s

I'd be curious to see Typhoons with meteors vs F-35 with only sidewinders

You should model and test the FB-22 or the NGAD Raptor.

i can't see coupla IR missiles hurting the F-35 RCS that badly and they're useful.

The eurofighter I'd my favorite because of MSFS, back when you could get to space in it

Great video. Would be interesting to see how this would work if the F-35 had only AMRAAMs instead of Meteors since they aren’t integrated yet. How much of a difference would this make, if any?

It would be interesting to see how the two aircraft compared in a QRA role.

F-35 cockpit looks F-15ish...is it just me? Great video btw. Very much enjoyed watching. Thank you.

Hey cap. What do you think of the f 22 vs the f 35?

How do you convert RCS to estimated radar detection range?

Why does the cockpit layout look different on dcs to pictures i have seen on the net. Does the f35 have a large area display or not?

Lol love the crash landing

Go, Battle Penguin!

Who requested this? Did they also ask if water was wet?

F35 is incredibly capable. I still love the Typhoon though. Its agility is incredible...and its very pretty

I love the F-15, but the Felon is a sexy bird.

8:55 No! Nooooo! Bollocks! ... :) That line just totally made my day! Hahahaha! Sorry Cap, but that was hilarious!

5th gen excels in BVR. It can aford to not be a good dogfighter if it won't ever get to the merge

F-35B will not have Meteor until AT LEAST 2036 - not only is the short fin Meteor project running late, F-35B will require the block 4 software update - if the UK can afford it when it arrives. British F-35Bs are currently carrying old stocks of AIM-120B and AIM-120C as we didn't buy AIM-120D. Oh and by the way, RAF pilots have been tracking F-35B at up to 90 miles (depending on aspect) with Tranche 3 onwards aircraft - UK F-35Bs do not fly with Luneburg lenses. Stealth is history - modern RADAR data processing has already defeated it. Tranche 3+ Typhoon CAN guide Meteor on IRST data alone of course at some point the Meteor will have to take over with on-board RADAR. I wish we would develop an IR guided Meteor.

Go Amy, it's a birthday cake!

Hey Cap, the f35 cockpit looks not very f35 alike 😅?

I can't be 100% sure, but I am fairly certain that the PIRATE IRST can be used to guide the Meteor.

"Watch me go ABOVE their sensors" BOOM "Ah BOLLOCKS!"

The F35B Cockpit isn`t realistic is it? When I google pictures, its full with 2 huge screens, and no old fashioned gauges.

F-35 with pylons is not full stealth

Going to say F35. Because 'Murica, phook yeah!

It's literally just like clubbing baby seals...

The F-35 is the stealth archer of fighter jets. Kill your enemy first; never allow a fight.

Go the opposite direction up high first

The Eurofighter does have an internal cannon, doesn't it? If the F-35B doesn't have a cannon built in the Eurofighter can get into knife-fighting range and turn it into Swiss cheese

You don’t have to mention leading zeroes ahead of the decimal point when giving units of measurement

Typhoon is much inferior to the F-35, as the Lightning can see anything if it’s flying anywhere, but I just have too big of a soft spot for the Dorito

Need a bad weather version

Just saying : The F-35's RCS maybe around 0.002m2, but that's not 360° around the jet, past the F-35's 25-30° frontal it's RSC goes up to around 2.5m2, the 0.002m2 is between it's 10-25° frontal. Ie you can see the F-35 from a longer range more often, not just 19 miles always at all angles. The Typhoons DASS is a lot more capable then what you claimed in game. The IRST Pirate is capable of sending it's information to the Captor M Radar, meaning when the IRST has found a target the Captor M can be used to forces on a certain point with pushing more power to see said target. The Typhoon in general is a lot better in real life, then what you showed in the game, "Stealth" doesn't mean it's better or that it's impossible to beat. Plus i believe the F-35 isn't getting the Meteor till 2027 now, so it's still using the older less capable AIM-120's, not to mention the Typhoons are getting new Radar Systems, the UK Typhoons will be Getting the Captor E2 the most capable Captor version out of the 3 types, in I believe 2030 or sooner, plus the APG-81 and new APG-85 maybe the best now, but it's stated that the Captor E2 will give the APG-85 a run for its money, so the Typhoon 4.5 gen isn't out of the fight yet vs 5th gen's. The Typhoon is just getting better. There is a reason why the Typhoon is classed as the most deadliest/advanced Swing-Roll Fighter. I know you guys get a lot of your information from Wikipedia, so maybe that's why you ended up with the result you did.

The Eurofighter is NOT british. Is british, german, spanish and italian.

I'm amused by all the comments suggesting you gimp the (5th Gen) F-35 to negate/mitigate its advantages and maximize 4th Gen advantages. What the actual f***?!? Seriously, obtuse suggestions.

Hi CAP, like to see these two planes sin a gentleman's merge?

Wait. You gave the f35 meteor? Would have been better to give it amraam D and aim9x to make it realistic.

If RAF fighters went rogue in a coup.....

Why not use the A variant?

Matrix is real 😂💙

Britain and the UK are the same thing!

Oooooh

what if euro-fighter had awacs support?

Hey, I've been watching you all for a couple of years. Could you all do a British Carrier group striking Washington DC?

Cap to space !?

Ah yes, love these matches where the Lightning has all of its systems turned off. Look forward to your updates. Subsonic performance is easy for F-35s, even Bs.

I just think the F-35 is ugly. It's abilities are astounding, but it's ugly. Not A-7 or A-10 "So ugly it's cool" but it just looks pudgy. When the F-22 was first unveiled, I remember reading a quote from someone in Air & Space who said that it looked like "a Tomcat with a water retention problem." Those curved surfaces serve a definite purpose, but they don't look sleek or like a weapon. It looks like they were made to be easy to swallow. Again, both amazing aircraft, but the aesthetics just aren't there for me. Eurofighter, however, looks like you could put it on the end of a spear and really mess someone up.

Typhoons

"Watch me go above their sensors... BOOM!" HAHAHAAHHA And yet people keep insisting that the F-35 is a useless system and not worth the price... Yet when it can utterly sweep the sky when used in the right way, is it REALLY? Those Typhoons didn't stand a friggin chance when the 35's are employed intelligently.

thyphoon becuse f35 wast of money

I don't understand these matchups. The Eurofighter vs. F-16 Block 70/72 would be more fun IMO.

I disqualify this match, no RWR is absolutely essential here. Please make the modder to fix the RWR and run match again.

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Hilarious how the f 35's are only good on paper and in digital simulation but has a billion in losses from crashes alone without ever being in real combat (fake bombing runs covered by real fighters is not real combat) 😂😂

F35 bad

Dont like anything euro 🇺🇸

How do you know what gen an aircraft is? Need to learn something new today, thanks.