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it was a good fight and the mig is no f-16 so there was no AOA to try and save me on that agressive down hill. good fight fly I enjoyed it.

Y’all are awesome. Thanks for helping to make such fun content!

In real life and/or DCS? I read somewhere that it had quite some engine issues in real life.

@@slowhornet4802 real life. An amazing plane don’t get me wrong, but she had some demons.

The production models mostly fixed that I think. But several prototypes exploded during test flights.

Seconded!

Thirdeded

Thanks Ryan

More weight than cost. The engines were the best available in that size. And given that the F-5 didn't weigh much more than a missile anyway they did alright.

try the vsn f4b/c its a nice freebie (once you install the updates...)

The F-20 is obsolete when compared to the F-16.

Today yes the F-20 would be, but back when the F-20 was designed and built she was a formidable fighter even against the early gen F-16's... if the F-20 had gone into production she would have also benefited with more and more upgrades like the F-16...

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Why post this without giving the answer? Do you want us all to go to this Aviation Geek Club to find the info?

@Power5 Tried to post the hyperlink... it wouldn't allow it. Kept erasing it. Are you that lazy? Can't Google EXACTLY what I wrote? 🤣😂🤣😂

@@Power5 You must be a millennial or Z gen huh? Lol

I did!

yup I like the sugar coated ones.

Air to air missles weren't viable until the late 80's.

Yeh 1960's missiles were shocking in dogfights.

yep. "I can close my eyes and picture chasing Kemo Percival through a very offensive Rolling Scissors only to have him execute the most perfect Pirouette and pass me 180 out, neutralized, with my jaw hanging open. If this had happened just once, I would have chalked it up to an accident of aerodynamics. But time and again I watched as a rare offensive position was eliminated by this impossible escape. When flying by myself, I would practice over and over; 45-60 degrees nose high, 220-180 knots, full aileron deflection, full opposite rudder, stick first full aft then quickly to full forward. When Kemo did it, his plane rotated horizontally, swapping ends in a blink while still maintaining enough energy to continue flying and fighting. When I tried it, following his recipe to the letter, I ended up either mushing through a reversal of direction but completely without airspeed, or rolling sideways and pulling through a slow speed wingover. No help at all." Source: google "Former VFC-13 Adversary Pilot explains how you can fly and fight in the iconic F-5 Tiger II"

Will try.

Yes that was annoying.

thanks. I just had more time in the seat of the mig-19 than cap did in the f-5. there is a dog fight on the GR2 Chanel that is me and cap going at it for like 15 straight min before someone died. so even win over cap is lucky lol.

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I believe that this is not a general rule. Let's say an F-16 and an F/A-18 would fly at 300 knots. The Hornet can pull more g's at this speed, which means it can fly a smaller circle. Which also means it even has a higher turn rate than the Viper at that relative low speed. The Viper cannot beat the Hornet at that speed. However, let's assume Viper #1 would fly at 600 knots and the radius of the turning circle would be two times the radius of the Hornet's turning circle (Viper's corner speed is more around 400-450, but to keep the numbers simple let's use 600 knots). Circumference is 2*pi*radius. This means Viper #1 needs to travel twice the distance around the circle, but since it does it at twice the speed it would have the same turn rate (it needs to travel twice the distance but does it at twice the speed). Now let's add Viper #2 which also flies at 600 knots in a circle with a radius which is only 1.5 times larger than the Hornet's turn radius (= Viper #1 needs to pull more g's than Viper #1): the turn radius is still larger than the Hornet's turn radius, but the turn rate would be higher. Viper #2 needs to travel 1.5 times the distance of the Hornet, but does it at twice the speed. With that said, it is not a general rule that a better turn fighter has to be the worse rate fighter and vice versa. E.g. : F-104 Starfighter versus Hornet. The Hornet would out-rate the Starfighter and would fly a narrower circle at the same time. The Starfighter can hold a 7.5 g turn, but it requires a higher speed than the Hornet to pull these 7.5 g's. The Starfighter still looks way cooler than both the Hornet and the Viper 😎.

@@slowhornet4802 That does clear things up, I wasn't understanding the definition of "rate" correctly. Your description of the situation is superb, I can see the circles in the sky. Totally agree, F-104 is one of the coolest planes ever, it just looks like it is coming to kill you!!!!

When I try to understand these things I like to take it to the extremes. F-15 has better overall turn rate than spitfire but can't turn in a tight circle, spitfire can turn in a tiny circle, hence small turn radius.

I've never heard of it either.

In the F-5 I always had the Aim-9 uncaged. I don;t think Mig can.

Which one have issue with drag?

I can't promise that.

Maybe someday we'll get the Standard ARM? Perhaps with an F-4G?

Was it intended for Air to Air? SM-6 is huge!

We'll have to do a knock out competition.

thanks for the compliment. but there are some GR comp team guys that would deffinetly work me over in the air. Bear and the Comp guys are a group of studs and there's a reason they won Satal last season.

Moved house and no internet.

@@grimreapers tell him to get satellite net........must be out in the bush if can't get net!!

they are deflectors to prevent muzzle gases from entering the intakes which could cause compressor stalls in the F5

Will have to wait until fixed.

Absolutely! As a point of fact, that is how most ended up. I have read books from real pilots in the Vietnam air war and many talk about the best attribute of the F-4 was it's straight line speed. When all your missiles have missed and you had no internal gun, running was your only option. Or if you were configured for a ground attack mission and were ambushed, you had to jettison your bomb load and hightail it out of there. One of the books is called War for the Hell of It. I can't remember the name of the author, Ed something or other I think, but it is a great read about the air was in 'Nam.

Yup, I've outrun many small missiles over the years.

IR Missiles yes. Mi Serb Radar missiles like the AMRAM or R77, not so much.

Fair comment ^^

you know they never actually said the mig-28 was being flown by the Russians in that movie lol.

Agreed

Get proven wrong, not only by DCS, but by real life, where Even Soviet pilots admitted that the F5 was better at turning.

Yup please send data so I can have a look.

@@grimreapers cap, I send you the pictures of the RCS model of SU57 as well as F35.

It’s pointy and shiny. Simple and analog.