F for Fake and the Death of the Author - Brows Held High

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KyleKallgrenBHH

KyleKallgrenBHH

9 жыл бұрын

Is there such a thing as "fake" art? Or a "fake" artist?
Forgive the constant mispronunciation of "auteur."
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@ShanaReviews
@ShanaReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with Orson Welles being remember for voicing Unicron, because given the history behind the scenes, it sounded like he was both annoyed and happy to play it. and one thing I did enjoy learning about was that even if he took this role for the money, he gave it the best he could, given his health, and I would honestly love it if kids did find out about him through the Transformers movie The man earned his place in cinema history and has left his mark in almost every part of it. Heck, I can actually quote all of Orson Welles lines as Unicron from the movie, that's how memorable he made him.
@DGJassy
@DGJassy 8 жыл бұрын
At first I was like: Little Red Riding Hood is a fairytale by the Grimm brothers, but then it struck me: They didn't write all the fairytales, they just collected the fairytales, that were spread orally. Well played.
@RPG_Angie
@RPG_Angie 8 жыл бұрын
+Penguin With Glasses Actually, most of our favorite fairy tales did not start as folk tales. The Little Red Riding Hood, as folk-ish as it seems, was most probably authored by Charles Perrault in 1697, and then spread through print and translations. The Grimm brothers famously proclaimed that the fairy tales they collected from townsfolk are ancient and universal, and that idea stuck, even though there's no solid evidence behind it. Not even Wikipedia has fully caught up yet. It's kind of fascinating.
@caseyj5637
@caseyj5637 8 жыл бұрын
+Penguin With Glasses I can't tell you how it drives me nuts when people like to credit the Grimm brothers for writing nearly all fairy tales, or when Disney makes another animated adaptation of a fairy tale and then bitch that they "ruined" the story to make it kid-friendly when there was no definitive version in the first place.
@RPG_Angie
@RPG_Angie 8 жыл бұрын
Casey J Actually, in most Disneyfied Grimm fairy tales, there is an original - written either by Straparola, or Perrault, or de Villeneuve/de Beaumont (in the case of Beauty and the Beast). Over only a couple centuries, these stories sold really well in print and spread like wildfire over Europe, spawning various localized versions. At least that's the most probable theory as far as evidence goes.
@perrymalcolm3802
@perrymalcolm3802 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about Welles is that he revolutionized 3 mediums (stage, radio, film) while still in his 20s!
@JediJared-bs1wt
@JediJared-bs1wt 2 күн бұрын
Makes me feel unaccomplished as a 25 year old
@slashandbones13
@slashandbones13 6 жыл бұрын
19:45 at some point, that was Walt Disney's only job. "You know, I was stumped one day when a little boy asked, 'Do you draw Mickey Mouse?' And I had to admit I do not draw anymore. 'Well then, you think up all the jokes and ideas?' 'No,' I said, 'I don't do that.' Finally, he looked at me and said, 'Mr. Disney, just what do you do?' 'Well,' I said, 'sometimes I think of myself as a little bee. I go from one area of the studio to another and gather pollen, and sort of stimulate everyone. I guess that's the job I do.'"
@AGuyWithAChannel
@AGuyWithAChannel 7 жыл бұрын
M for 'Make it.' M for 'Make it.' F for 'Don't fake it.'
@italulu
@italulu 7 жыл бұрын
"I found you... faker." "Faker? I think you're the fake around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my fake-" "I'll make you eat those words!"
@kathrynblakeley9823
@kathrynblakeley9823 6 жыл бұрын
Write a story
@abrahamlincoln9758
@abrahamlincoln9758 2 жыл бұрын
"That hour ended 17 minutes ago."
@ornos3133
@ornos3133 4 жыл бұрын
Now this is a art conspiracy I can get behind.
@abrahamlincoln9758
@abrahamlincoln9758 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a who done it, but you're not trying to figure out who comitted a crime, but what is Welles actually talking about. Quite dizzying getting tugged from room to room in this magnificent mad house.
@Genderkaiser
@Genderkaiser 8 жыл бұрын
Make it. Make it. Don't fake it.
@caseyj5637
@caseyj5637 8 жыл бұрын
+Fergus Ager NO
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 7 жыл бұрын
Fergus Ager YES
@geminikid609
@geminikid609 6 жыл бұрын
fake it fake it don't break it
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch 5 жыл бұрын
I will guide you to make it.
@shingshongshamalama
@shingshongshamalama 6 жыл бұрын
In this video, Kyle talks about art while making art.
@dmore454
@dmore454 6 жыл бұрын
24:00 Well, sometimes art is made for the artist and not the viewer. Steve Ditko wrote and drew a bunch of Dr. Strange issues that have never been seen by anyone but him and a friend he let look at them once. When asked by the friend if he was going to have them published, he sincerely responded, "No, I drew those just for me."
@slashandbones13
@slashandbones13 6 жыл бұрын
Steve Ditko and Alan Moore may be the opposite people on the planet but they have one very important thing in common: They have truly chosen to deny themselves a lot of money over the year.
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 4 жыл бұрын
It's really fascinating returning to this after the Other Side of the Wind has finally seen the light of day. An Orson Welles film that is so deeply rooted in the the auteur narrative of Orson Welles and requires you to be in the know on the Orson Welles myhtos and aesthetic (the frenetic 8 &16mm, Peter Bogdonovich running around as his right hand man, Oja Kodar running around naked in parodic art film montages). Another interesting thing to contemplate about the role of the author here is that no one would have put up the money to restore this and the film itself would never have been resurrected had the status of "lost Orson Welles film" not been attached to it. You can't kill the author in The Other Side of the Wind because the author is the movie.
@ornos3133
@ornos3133 4 жыл бұрын
Now this is an art house film I can get behind.
@112steinway
@112steinway 8 жыл бұрын
I write comics, I'd like to write comics for a living, and I say that because I would like to establish myself as someone who thinks he's an artist in order to make the following statement. In Homer's Iliad the hero Achilles claims he would rather live a short and violent life filled with glory rather than a long safe one because his "glory never dies". We as corporeal beings may die but our deeds, accomplishments, and creations live on making us kind of immortal. Speaking as an artist, or rather someone who creates something for public consumption, I like this idea of becoming immortal through a legacy. That being said I am terrified of blood and violence so I try to do accomplish the same thing through my work.
@MarioRossiAncora
@MarioRossiAncora 6 жыл бұрын
I have so much trust in you that I stopped the video after 3 minutes, actually watched the movie, then immediately came back and watched this. Thank you for your hard work. It was a great analysis and piece of mind. Very honest ;)
@tarnopol
@tarnopol 6 жыл бұрын
Could be Welles’s best film, and that is indeed saying something. One of his most innovative at the very least-and entertaining!
@ackamack101
@ackamack101 3 жыл бұрын
The editing is the star of F for Fake
@herecomemacOnTT
@herecomemacOnTT 5 жыл бұрын
I love that I'm going through your catalog now, since Lindsay Ellis JUST did a video essay on Death of the Author and used John Green and TFIOS as examples, even featuring him in the video. This is a brilliant breakdown, and I'm glad I came back to watch your videos again :)
@Pratchettgaiman
@Pratchettgaiman 9 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that you brought up John Green given the recent discovery by John Green that he had inadvertently claimed a quote by a fan of his was his own--a real fake John Green quote essentially
@LieutenantAlaki
@LieutenantAlaki 9 жыл бұрын
Upvoted at FOOD FOR THE FOOD GOD. :D
@TerLoki
@TerLoki 6 жыл бұрын
Now I want Kyle to do a video on Warhammer 40k. I mean, it could work. Look at the burning of Prospero for Shakespeare month?
@williamcurtis5775
@williamcurtis5775 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this movie . Very creative and a true masterpiece .
@Kellen_Quigley
@Kellen_Quigley 9 жыл бұрын
Besides this being an excellent review that is making me seriously think about my own life as an "artist" and a "writer," I'm really digging the different facial hair. A new look for a new year, and it totally works.
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch 5 жыл бұрын
I graduated in "fine art" a couple of weeks ago. This video was influential to me.
@Auburn_Zero
@Auburn_Zero 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my favorites of your works. You make me want to see it. Your insights are thought provoking AND entertaining. I hope you keep these up for years to come. I tell all the interesting and intelligent people I know about your show.
@VolvagiasBlaze
@VolvagiasBlaze 8 жыл бұрын
i wonder if John Green has actually watched this...
@Rikku147
@Rikku147 8 жыл бұрын
+Volvagia´s Blaze He did. He commented on the original video.
@johndavidtibbetts7320
@johndavidtibbetts7320 8 жыл бұрын
+Becky A really? what did he say?
@Rikku147
@Rikku147 8 жыл бұрын
John David Tibbetts I'm afraid I don't remember too well--if I'm recalling it right, he was very appreciative of the video and said that he too spends a lot of time thinking about "death of the author."
@Poopdahoop
@Poopdahoop 9 жыл бұрын
Omg I fell in love with this channel instantly. Please never stop making these videos! :D
@redrazorminecraftvideos9571
@redrazorminecraftvideos9571 8 жыл бұрын
I like you dude...humble, cool, funny....intelligent, knowledgeable. Good luck!
@NatAnn64
@NatAnn64 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Green brothers saw this by complete chance. "Oh look, a review of an Orwell movie; I bet I'll like this."
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 7 жыл бұрын
"Orwell", love the pun there.
@ErjonPNL
@ErjonPNL 7 жыл бұрын
Every once in a while i rewatch this video. F for Fake might have become one of my favourite movies of all time and its thanks to this video that i actually saw it. I thank you deeply for this video as much as i thank mr Welles for this magnificent film.
@thenerdyboo2134
@thenerdyboo2134 7 жыл бұрын
Oh Kyle, don't second guess yourself, you magnificent thespian! Your amazing! One of my favorite KZfaqrs!
@christheleavittman7080
@christheleavittman7080 5 жыл бұрын
9:21 Came cuz of Spazzmaster, stayed for the smart analyses. I like Kyle
@Tom-V
@Tom-V 4 жыл бұрын
Ah you quoted Orson himself on that Unicron description lol 😂🤣
@benjaminrubin2178
@benjaminrubin2178 9 жыл бұрын
Great to see you on KZfaq, Kyle.
@thunderstruck560
@thunderstruck560 7 жыл бұрын
I want to find a way to make that ARRRRRRT into a gif. You care too much about the opinions of people on the internet if they want to question your "crit cred". You put so much effort into your videos and I am glad you do.
@ttthecat
@ttthecat 6 жыл бұрын
You're an expert to me Kyle!
@UltimateKyuubiFox
@UltimateKyuubiFox 7 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I watched this video, and 30 seconds in, I literally did as he requested and watched the film on KZfaq. It was glorious and I'm glad I did.
@100percent-
@100percent- 6 жыл бұрын
I watched this video right before looking at my English Literary Theory class to discover we were reading both of the essays you referenced. Thank goodness for your explanation. I would have been lost otherwise :)
@madameversiera
@madameversiera 3 жыл бұрын
My goodness I love all of your videos, honestly thanks
@cyanmanta
@cyanmanta 7 жыл бұрын
Seriously, play The Beginner's Guide. It's an amazing exploration of Death of the Author.
@LittleGreenSoldier
@LittleGreenSoldier 3 жыл бұрын
Recently, Elmyr's apprentice and heir, Mark Forgy, had a frankly dismaying email exchange with an auction house about "fake Elmyrs". I could feel my brain melting as I read this exchange, with Forgy insisting that only he could determine what was an "authentic Elmyr". It was buck fucking wild.
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
Well, your welcome. Now Welles' official last film is "The Other Side of the Wind." Which was the last film he ever worked on too. Nearly completed it before he died too. And now his friends completed his work. And made a documentary to go with it. All for Netflix.
@davehandelman2832
@davehandelman2832 Жыл бұрын
I want to sit and watch you talk about the thing you want to contemplate all day!!
@monolith94
@monolith94 8 жыл бұрын
Ten? Really? Cough up a list, buddy.
@ingonyama70
@ingonyama70 6 жыл бұрын
From what I know of Kyle, the list might include (but not be limited to): -Lindsay Ellis -Alison Pregler -Doug Walker (maybe) -Jamie Maurer (perhaps) -Jacob Hope Chapman -Justin Carmichael (RIP) -Mathew Buck -Lewis Lovhaug -Diamanda Hagan -Todd Nathanson Note that I am not saying that I personally think these reviewers are better than Kyle, but that since they are or were his friends at some point, and he has always held his colleagues at TGWTG/Channel Awesome/Chez Apocalypse in high regard, even going on record as to claim some of them as influences to his own style, that those are a few of the likely suspects for "reviewers who are better than me." Kyle sells himself quite short, I feel, and it saddens me. But the solidarity he has with his fellow CA alumni is extremely touching.
@kostajovanovic3711
@kostajovanovic3711 4 жыл бұрын
@@ingonyama70 oh, how time flies
@qweeq14
@qweeq14 7 жыл бұрын
It's strange Oancitizen here thinks he isn't a classical critic with authority and it's a bad thing but the reason I watch internet reviews is exactly for that reason unlike old school criticts they are not biased for the sake of their public image.
@slopefriend
@slopefriend Ай бұрын
This film changed my life. It’s a masterpiece.
@HenryKathman
@HenryKathman 5 жыл бұрын
I had held off on watching this video for the past years that I have been watching you because I wanted to follow your recommendation and waited until I could find a way to legally watch this film. Now after two years of waiting and finally able to find this film on the criterion channel, I'm happy to say that your video was well worth the wait. Thanks for being such a good faker, Best Wishes.
@gamacminisplits8531
@gamacminisplits8531 4 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing review. Respects.
@sewthernbelle
@sewthernbelle 6 жыл бұрын
Could you talk about Mel Brooks and his legacy as a filmmaker? I think people only view him as a comedy director, often missing that he has genuine moments of sincerity in his works. My favorite of his is his remake of To Be or Not to Be. He didn't direct or write it, but as a lead actor and producer his mark was all over that film.
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 3 жыл бұрын
I do not know why. But I return to this video every time I think of the term "freeze frame enthusiast"... It is surprisingly often.
@joaovitorribeiroalves1034
@joaovitorribeiroalves1034 4 жыл бұрын
Just another great video! You channel is awesome!
@SupremeLeaderKokichiOma
@SupremeLeaderKokichiOma 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, really made me think. All of the concepts are really interesting, but I don't have any wordy comments or new insight - just that it's made me think a little bit more today. : ) Really glad to see you're still doing these and I'll be waiting for the next one!
@femoman
@femoman 8 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could take a look at a fairly recent film, by the name of 'Imaginaerum'? It's a Finnish film made by the metal band Nightwish, and it's a pretty fascinating story about the last memories and the internal struggle of a dying old poet, and it seems like something you'd enjoy.
@brentwheeler8277
@brentwheeler8277 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Welsh (Femoman) How have I never heard of this before? O_o
@femoman
@femoman 8 жыл бұрын
+Brent Wheeler Well it's a pretty obscure movie. Pretty much the only people who will have heard of it are those interested in Finnish cinema or post-Tarja Nightwish fans.
@hyperchica
@hyperchica 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Welsh (Femoman) Wow, I didn't know they made a film! I would love to see Kyle do an episode on that.
@TheHoagie13
@TheHoagie13 4 жыл бұрын
*INSERT "MRS'S PELL'S FISHSTICKS" HERE!!!* Ah yes Kyle Kallgren, my fellow Scandinavian-American (I'm 3rd Gen Norwegian-American; who's Grandparents came here in the U.S. in 1949!!! ....and YES, my Grandpa Kjell's gonna be 83yrs Old July 3rd!)
@TheHoagie13
@TheHoagie13 4 жыл бұрын
.....I guesss I gotta finish my sentence huh? Ok then.... "I STILL love your work, I just fell off the goddamned bandwagon after the DEATH of BLIP!!! *THANKS, DISNEY!"*
@CorneliaAmiri
@CorneliaAmiri 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I just watched this incredibly intriguing, totally entertaining documentary that's exceptionally well-edited on HMO max. I never saw it before.
@michellebrowne9100
@michellebrowne9100 5 жыл бұрын
I just want that top ten list so I have extra people to watch. A list of your favorite introduction to film theory books would also be amazing!
@disenchanted987
@disenchanted987 9 жыл бұрын
Loved this review, and now I feel I should actually check out 'The Fault In Our Stars', need something to read for the summer!
@kallesaarinen7559
@kallesaarinen7559 7 жыл бұрын
The point of the speech with the Gothic Cathedral, I think, was more about entropy of the universe rather than who has ownership of a piece of art. Art is an object that mankind leaves behind to prove to the universe that we existed. Everything turns to ash, but what of it? Keep on singing.... "or something like that"
@duibhne9119
@duibhne9119 5 жыл бұрын
Love your programs! Love classy movies 😊
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 5 жыл бұрын
As a fellow freeze frame connoisseur I wholeheartedly recommend this film!
@spaceantqueen4327
@spaceantqueen4327 7 жыл бұрын
I followed your suggestion, and watched the movie earlier today. Thank you.
@mattswoollett1296
@mattswoollett1296 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid man, loved the film, thanks for the great recommendation
@g.willikers465
@g.willikers465 7 жыл бұрын
Saw this movie because of this review. Thanks for introducing me to it.
@eryndean2769
@eryndean2769 8 жыл бұрын
1:44 "food for the FOOD GOD!" lol XD
@robinblankenship9234
@robinblankenship9234 3 жыл бұрын
Just delightful!!
@FireFighter214
@FireFighter214 9 жыл бұрын
Great review. I'm really glad to see your still making these. Did you have to change your opening because of your seperation from Channel Awesome? This looks like a very interesting movie. I'll have to check it out sometime.
@HipsterShiningArmor
@HipsterShiningArmor 7 жыл бұрын
Wait but I thought Ted Cruz was the Zodiac Killer.
@connorrivers995
@connorrivers995 3 жыл бұрын
No no, his father was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
@platoworld4012
@platoworld4012 5 жыл бұрын
HAUTE BRILLIANCE.
@wratched
@wratched 7 жыл бұрын
Life is not dying. Many people find that goal extremely difficult, especially artists. Copyright and ownership of work is one way artists prevent themselves from dying. If we think they're dead, they soon will be.
@reganburt6924
@reganburt6924 7 жыл бұрын
I think Barthes' theory can go some ways to answering the question, Is there such a thing as 'fake' art. Barthes' argued the author is dead, in that, the way we idealise an author as the original creator of content - is an illusion. No author, or piece of art, exists in isolation. An artwork can be seen as a long (or short, if a fake) list of citations to other influences. Kyle gives a great example of this compounding process in his Cloud Atlas review: Pyramus and Thisbe = A Mid Summer Nights Dream = The Dead Poets Society = Community. So authors/artists can not be held up as the genius, auteur, original content creators that we so often view them as (hence my moral justification for torrenting :[]). We could argue, though, that authors do create something new, out of something old. Like an adaptation. The argument for an authors importance does not rest in their ability to create the art, but in the fact they did so. Whilst Elmyr's Modigliani may be just as valid, beautiful and worthy of contemplation; and with the title of 'art', as Modigliani's Modigliani - Elmyr's Modigliani wouldn't exist without Modigliani's Modigliani (...If you know what I mean). Art exists because artists re-create, and in this process of recreation, create something new. So is fake art, art? The answer may be like asking if a shot for shot remake of Psycho is art - maybe, but whats the point?
@McMindflayer
@McMindflayer 9 жыл бұрын
Never forget to be Awesome Kyle! Like the new haircut btw. looks good on you.
@Demolitiondude
@Demolitiondude 8 жыл бұрын
Pork for the Pork Throne!
@The_Lauren_Fox_Catalogue
@The_Lauren_Fox_Catalogue 7 жыл бұрын
Great review :) I just want to say that I've recently stumbled upon a modern novel series (Bourbon Kid) written by an anonymous author. It's interesting how he/she kept him/herself anonymous in this day and age when everyone wants to be known, the way art works in the world as you said in the review. Check it out when you have the time.
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 9 жыл бұрын
Oh thank sweet zombie Jesus you are still able to post videos online! I was beginning to worry that you and Lupa wouldn't be able to gather enough funds to self produce after cutting ties with Channel Awesome (and that awful producer Mike).
@undertasty
@undertasty 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! You said in this video that there is a list of other youtube critics you could recommend. Would you please make and publish a list like that? I think you have a very valid and fascinating look into cinema, and I would be really interested whose view points you yourself find interesting. And don't worry, I wouldn't stop watching your videos ;D
@aZeddPrattFilm
@aZeddPrattFilm 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, I came here already being in love with this movie. I wonder how many can say that.
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you wonder that? Kinda sounds pretentious. "I already liked the film before watching this (aka before it was cool)!"
@Pensive_Scarlet
@Pensive_Scarlet 8 жыл бұрын
All art is just an effort to communicate. Each artist utters creations catered to one sense or another as well as can be done, yet all works of art are utterances of one self to other selves, a plea from that which is within one to be understood by that which is within another. With my art, my music, I simply wish to be heard and understood, to have my sounds resonate deeply with other people.
@Mttjs1
@Mttjs1 5 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite movies
@Enrychan
@Enrychan 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle, the "gli" sound in italian is similar to the double L in spanish, like in "tortilla"! so it's not Modig-liani, ma Modigliani pronounced as it would be in spanish "Modillani". Just a suggestion from a (usually silent) italian fan. Awesome video, btw!
@alyssarackley342
@alyssarackley342 8 жыл бұрын
This video has officially made me your subscriber.
@Flowtail
@Flowtail 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, okay, sheesh kyle! i’ll go watch it *cough* after finals *cough*
@Jimmyz9t
@Jimmyz9t 7 жыл бұрын
Good review
@amphioxusanniversary
@amphioxusanniversary 6 жыл бұрын
Me: Want to watch this DVD before I return it to the library? My Dad: Depends on how long it is. Me: ...Spoilers?
@WTFisTingispingis
@WTFisTingispingis 7 жыл бұрын
*FOOD FOR THE FOOD GOD*
@JiveDadson
@JiveDadson 8 жыл бұрын
Before "art" meant a thing to be contemplated, it meant specialized skill and practical ability. It existed in the artist's brain and hands, not in a frame on a wall.
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the language evolved. It tends to do that.
@fcane
@fcane 9 ай бұрын
The best part is when (I think 5 seconds in) you say "quit this vid and go watch the movie" XD.
@77cicero77
@77cicero77 8 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAART!
@ECL28E
@ECL28E 8 жыл бұрын
Shame you can't really lie to get into the arts anymore. Damn you, internet
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 7 жыл бұрын
ECL28E You go to politics to do that now.
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
Since when?
@manicpixiefangirl4189
@manicpixiefangirl4189 5 жыл бұрын
Just got through watching Lindsay Ellis’ video about death of the author and decided to revisit this one. Very interesting...
@klisterklister2367
@klisterklister2367 Жыл бұрын
Still a great vid❤
@ThePIPdesign
@ThePIPdesign 6 жыл бұрын
expert film analysis fo sho
@egirlSkeletor
@egirlSkeletor 4 жыл бұрын
Art being so tied to the artist is inherently a function of capital. Art itself is inherently collectivist until commodified
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 4 жыл бұрын
And going to that point, it's really fascinating returning to this after the Other Side of the Wind has finally seen the light of day. An Orson Welles film that is so deeply rooted in the the auteur narrative of Orson Welles and would never have been resurrected had the status of "lost Orson Welles film" not been attached to it. You can't kill the author in The Other Side of the Wind because the movie because the author is the movie.
@Cybjon
@Cybjon 8 жыл бұрын
Best fuckin' thing Welles ever did, including Citizen Kane.
@dondevice3342
@dondevice3342 3 жыл бұрын
little red riding hood was written by jean de la fontaine
@RikkaP
@RikkaP 8 жыл бұрын
At the end the musing about fake and art did remind me of a quote I think I read in Hoimar von Dittfurths book on the evolution of the human brain and mind. I do not recall whom he was quoting (Lorenz or Tinbergen seems likely), but it went like this (translation by me): "The fin of the fish is an image of the water as we can derive the physical qualities of water from the anatomy of the fin and the knowledge that the fin works in its purpose, that is: propelling the fish through the water. In the same way the wing of the bird is the image of the air." Mr von Dittfurth went on with this thought by saying that in this way the human brain would be the image of the mental/ abstract world or dimension. A world that we are just starting to explore as the human mind is a fairly new invention of evolution, compared to fish fins and bird wings. We could derive the existence of the mental dimension by the existence of the human brain. This had me thinking: the fake, the lie in the art, could it be some kind of meta-reality, more adapted to the abstract, the mental reality (this sounds like crazy, but I mean the combined complex of ratio and emotio) then to the reality of the physical world? Is art the feathers of the brain, making the wing not only more effective but enabling us to use it at all? After all, things that have been no more then an artists fancy have been handed over to scientists and then engineers and at long last consumers. And now I joined the network, too.
@lonoldsun5523
@lonoldsun5523 8 жыл бұрын
i know you ain't badmouthin unicorn
@ArturoStojanoff
@ArturoStojanoff 7 жыл бұрын
You know what. I'm gonna stop this, watch this movie and come back to see this review. Maybe I'll be back in a million years, but I guess I am now intrigued, you convinced me. Say goodbye to your add revenue for another million years though, ha!
@JKPancake
@JKPancake 5 жыл бұрын
My brain hurts more now (Also I did wait to watch this movie before watching the video)
@Segaman55
@Segaman55 7 жыл бұрын
well, according to your logic... I think, it's still a bit fuzzy, the person I'm watching in this isn't kyle kallgren, the person who made the video, I'm watching kyle kallgren the writer, director, cameraman (I think), for the sake of summing up, the artist, who I can't really understand as a person because I've never met them and because of that I make a construct made up of all the reviews, tweets, vlogs, basically anything I've seen him in, who may or may not be like the actual kyle kallgren while the artist construct was never alive to begin with... I'm pretty sure I got a lot of that wrong, or at least off base
@ingonyama70
@ingonyama70 6 жыл бұрын
In the case of a reviewer, you've hit the nail on the head. I feel there's a far thinner line between Kyle the person and Oancitizen the artist than there used to be, but that could just be what I want to believe. I want to believe someone as talented and insightful and humble and thought-provoking as him could exist. I want to believe he's as thoughtful and passionate and erudite in reality as he appears in his videos and social media. In the end, I'll likely never meet the real Kyle, so this is the closest I can come. It's the dilemma of every art fan, just as much as every artist.
@kathrynblakeley9823
@kathrynblakeley9823 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle has dramaturgical training (which is awesome for a person interested in dramaturgy) likes Shakespeare, interested in multiple mediums, and likes John Green! Also that you have an unironic interest in something popular. That seals it he's even more awesome in my book than I thought possible. Also anyone up for: Make John Green find the thing!
@namelessentity5851
@namelessentity5851 5 жыл бұрын
Most important question ever asked: Who would win in a "shirts-off pink-belly slap-fight" Orson Welles or Charles Laughton? I would give both of them a thick, 70's style broad leather belt, complete with huge belt buckle, but that might get out of hand.
@2kano113
@2kano113 6 жыл бұрын
The first thing I think of when I hear John Green is his favorite taste.
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