you should also clarify that most countries want you to be 17 in order to compete in money pools, WHICH IS ESPORTS.

Itz -xRhino Anyone thats trying to get into esports should automatically know that

How are going to complement this guy and make the title “The Geezer God”

Perfect reference 👍🏻

i bet he will trick shot and show off his skill by destryoing his kid in 1v1 in any games

No his kid will be the next god

Lmaooo

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Definition of passion

f0rest is the legend

He's not 100 yrs old ffs

He just love the game thats all .. at least hes enjoying his work .

@@welcometolife4237 yeah but over 30 in esports is considered old. He's young irl but in his profession he's old if that makes sense. The fact he still has the drive and passion to still compete and improve is what makes it so impressive.

Why Afghanistan? They say that literally everywhere.

"Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young"

You can die in esports?

@@yellowcam1422 Sometimes for extra immersion gabe newell will occasionally shoot a player if they perform poorly enough

I highly doubt Afghanistan coined that term dude

ZOIDCORE just stop. What you said makes 0 sense. Almost got a spasm reading that.

@@doobydoes4956 ? i think you're just a lil slow in the head

@@doobydoes4956 you better get back to elementary for not understanding that simple sentence lol

@@doobydoes4956 that is your fault

@@doobydoes4956 LMAOOO THAT BACKFIRED

This old guy can aim better than me

lol shut up

pretending to be a fan

@@nethenx6914 don't project, be nice.

You love F0rest?? don't forget his best friend :] *GeT_RiGhT!!!*

I really don't understand players fixation with age on comp esports

@@MontySlython I dont even know why they think the reaction time gets slower i never saw a 30year old guy with lower reaction time then a 20 or 16 years old

@@rai1jin you never saw even one? That would mean that all 30yo you saw had better reaction times than 20yo. Please phrase it right. What you meant was: From my experience the mean reaction time doesnt differ between 20 and 30yo.

@@MontySlython its the mentality. Guys get burned out playing 30 hours a week for 10 years. The burnout leads to just a lack of motivation which will cause them to play worse and start getting sloppier aim most of the time.

@Zhào Liǔ it's not a problem of reflexes, it's a problem of eyesight. You wouldn't react to something you can't see. Nerves don't deteriorate because of you playing videogames. If you take precautions (use special glasses, rest properly, etc) I don't see an actual reason for a 30yo having a harder time playing videogames than a 20yo. Maybe in RTSs because of the high APM but definitely not on FPSs.

Wait, its been that long? Holy shit

@@Anonymous-td9fl Wait I thought it was yesterday he made that song

now, i don't wanna get whooosh'd, but that was the joke

I still like him lmao

@@lorefox8628 r/eoosh

Well old for esports

Basically a fossil in esport terms

@@yoyu8641 lmao

eSports has barely started, and only dominated by kids cos of free time to play and stigma. Imo you'll see more grown players remaining competitive in the coming years as it becomes more socially acceptable.

​@@nightra3663 How is 32 too old for esports?

aye sm0lmark

i left cops for csgo and i want u upload some csgo gameplay on your channel too man , i would luv it.

@El-Khalifa El-Hamdi lel he had some stomach surgery and problems , he is a consistent rifler

@El-Khalifa El-Hamdi I completely disagree

F0rest >>>>>>>>>>> Get_Right. Get right is overrated, correct me.

I was in that crowd, it was absolutely incredible, even if fucking North won that tournament. The problem with Swedish crowds is that we are kinds meh when there is no Swede playing but when there are Swedish teams playing we can get real loud.

@@thetoyyya6890 yeah i was there, SO loud, but SO good

Yeah I was there too, insanely loud

@@thetoyyya6890 should have been one heck of an experience

Well no use to missing it now. It's back!

And he didn't have bomb

Truly an epic gamer.

are we not gonna talk about get_right's reaction tho?

@@pak8310 wait what?? Lul

@@BenedictPenguin he just wanted a fist bump

Facts,

i was expecting someone in their 50's+ before clicking lol

fr, they make 32 sound like 86

Yeah...I am 33 and now I feel like an old fart xD

@@Zabijaka87 33!!!!! My god you are a fossil!!! The Grim Reaper is probably knocking on your door old man!!!!!!

Santa of CS:GO XD Actually, f0rest is the boomer to boomers, he knew that the boomer were cursed by the zoomers. So he try to help the other boomers by improving his aim. I told you the true story, now give me a cookie >:((

Now dignitas ain't struggling anymore.

@@7cknggood126 Daigo Umehara is around 40 now and still competing at highest level...

hes 30years old man. thats young xD

it's one off the most popular games over here tbh but your cousin is a fucking legend

LOL

if only it was like that in America :/

@@tongdak. yeah but we do workout a lot aswell

Gotta love the Swedes!

That's also the experience, but the Aim is what deteriorates usually because reflexes get slower

@@GreifvogelSGE haha and my reflexes still slower than pasha.

Greifvogel that’s my theory too. Aiming is almost all reflexes. If you really look at aim, it’s a combination of many strung-together reflexes since you’re reacting to movement as well as what you are placing your crosshair. So it’s natural for aim to deteriorate as you age

@@Dog3D Yeah but did you guys not hear the pretty lady? It's negligible as opposed to the other factors that hinder a person as they age. You're not gonna see a big decline in reaction from 20 all the way probably to even 40 honestly. How could you explain MLB sluggers that stay in the game til their old age and they're going up against fucking 90+ zingers on the daily? Let's be honest here.

@@Fohnzii There are so many people on here in their thirties saying that they are not able to play as snappy as they could in their teens or twenties

Yeah 32 isn't old in other major sports. I think it's a matter of being able to dedicate your life to it.

@@spadeykins9114 well it depends what sport. For example, in hockey 32 would be considered a veteran, borderline old

The FGC has players winning major events past 30, so it's not out of the realm of possibility in any esport

Christopher Mitchell golf isn't a sport

@@ChessCat1500 And neither is a video game.

elvisg7 i read fragging as “foraging” lol

@@beansy8258 I mean he do be doing that tho his picking those headshots like ez pz

yeah. People talk about s1mple being the goat or whatever, but i think we'll see once s1mple hits 30

It is in esports

As 29y old, i can tell first hand im not snappy as i would say 3y ago... More and more weight is put on experience from relefexes.... Its shitty feeling but yeah...

im 28. the older i got the better my aim got, period. its weird as fuck, but it is what it is. idk why

nsperience Slow down in your reflexes should not be noticeable in such a short time span( unless your playing at the highest level). We’re talking 50-80 ms at worst. My aim and reflexes have gotten consistently better over the years.

@@niksperience that's your mind messing with you not your body my dude you gotta evolve and adapt you gotta engage your brain again

True. f0rest GeT_RiGhT NEO and of course spawN will always be Counter-Strike legends

​@@mdra_ spot on list I hate when ppl forget about NEO too

Depends on genes and environment but most folks reaction times don't start to truly fall off until their mid to late 40's. If you look at F1 racing there have been drivers that won into their mid 40's and that's pretty much the pinnacle of human reaction time measurement since failure means death and not pushing to the razor edge means a loss. I bet f0rest plays well into his late 30's and possibly until he's 40, anything past that is just icing on the cake tbh. That'd be a 30 year career at the highest level of a professional sport.

Also Daigo who is going 40 is still pretty high leveled only thing holding him back is SFV. Oh and the guy is the champion of FT10

yeah, but again... its Tekken

@Jeremy NL I think thats the big thing. The older people get the more responsibilities start to pile up. Theres families etc and you just start to move your attention elsewhere. Then the motivation to play starts to go down.

So is K1llsen in Quake, at 33. And Cypher,Cooller,Rapha, who are all 30-33.

didn't resonate with, i have no idea what 2 of you are talking about

@@efreitorhabibulin238 hes worried something will happen to him or his son now, old age comes with its consequences

Less time to play lol

Must be suck to never have a chance to beat your dad in a game.

My dad is professional at hide and seek

And excluding FIFA

@@Miguel-dy9lw i know i shouldnt be laughing but i cant help it

theScore esports your mom

Dude have you realized that your voice sounds exactly like Tom Green? 💯

Every play

please stop using "GOD" in your titles it got stale already . get creative. or just put a normal title ffs

@@taharmebarki660 hahah n1

Good luck with Valorant! I recently turned 36, but i still feel like I can still click on some heads like I did in CS1.5/1.6 when i was 18/18 years old.

I'm 30, but now I had arthritis in my left arm and my right shoulder.

Respect and goodluck to you brother!

Yeah, the age discussion should be put down. I am 34 years, and I have a lot of 20ish friends that I game with. We also play Valorant. They have even played if longer than me. I almost always outfrag them and outclutch them. So I do agree with that the woman in this video says. The reaction time isn't that decaying in the age we are in. Maybe when you get a lot older, but then again experience comes to play and that can often be more valuable than clicking the mouse faster...

Holy shit I feel like a toddler in this thread Ik 30 isn’t old and 40 is still pretty young but like I’m 15-16 So it’s just mad weird lul w

i am

we are

A coping mechanism for late 20-year-olds to disassociate from the fact that they too can age. 30s are still young dude, anyone who says people in their 30s is old are really dumb. (Also, I'm 22)

32 is young in terms of living normal life, but in eSports its way different, that's age where your reactions are going down slowly and kn cs every second matters. He is kinda old for eSports 😉

He is calling him an "old man" in a counter strike point of view since he is competing at a professional level that requires sharp reactions , precise aim and knowledge.For example if you cloned a forest but at his peak (cs 1.6 era) and let them battle it out on a aim map the cs 1.6 era forest would defeat present forest because of reaction time and aim but if you put them in a normal map say Train for example the present forest would outplay cs 1.6 forest due to experience/knowledge of the game.This scenario also applies to a normal counter strike competitive where veterans outplay the newbies but the newbies can sometimes out-aim the veterans.

@@seriousone44 did you watch the vid? Chick says the difference in reaction time from 20 to 30 is negligible

he was overreacting as a joke I think

Well, that experience is more important than the loss of reflexes

I'm 34 and while may aim was pretty good in the 1.5/1.6 days, with age comes experience and my survivability, gamesense and clutching have all improved. So fun to see them go really quiet, when people assume that because you wrecked them you're some 15 year old no-lifer, and you tell them you're just a casual player in their 30s. I don't think we'll see many if any older players become pros, because orgs will want to invest in something they can develop over time, but it doesn't mean a pro's shelf life is that short.

@@maxek46 I don't think you'll see old players like you and I ever attempt pro because our actual careers are more lucrative(assumption based i know). I just think that kicking the current Pros to the curb just because they had a birthday is more about marketing and salary. These decline in "reflexes" is grossly over stated especially for people in their 30's lol

@@hektik2200 I think it depends on the type of game. FPSs are not that taxing on muscles as RTSs for example, were if you aren't capable of insanely high APM, you are at a clear disadvantage. FPSs don't require for you to be pressing keys and clicking 24/7 at high speeds.

Thats why i disliked. And there are people way older in the compeditive scene.

I think LoL heavily favors micro and individual perfomance, and with exceptional micro you can easily reach the upper echelons of non-pro play, even if your macro game equals that of a potato. LoL also favors skillshots and smaller aoe and duration cc, whereas Dota favors targeted casting and them big juicy cc chains. With the question in LoL often being "am I able to land this particular sequence of skills?", where in Dota the question is often "when is the the optimal time to use this particular sequence of skills?". With Dota being more mana and cd heavy it rewards careful use of skills with regards to timing, and potientally being out of juice in crucial moments, should you start spamming. Whereas LoL is more spam friendly rewarding frequent use of skills, provided you are able land them. (There are of course exceptions to this in both games, but overall I think this rings true). Dota 2 dosen't necessarily favor good micro to the same extent as LoL, usually with other macro related factors being the main claim to victory. Also with illusions, both from skills and items, and the attackspeed cap being much higher in Dota, achieving micro mastery to the same extent as possible in LoL, is not feasible in Dota. Hell even regular ass creep and jungle farming requires a PhD to do properly in Dota, whereas creep farming in LoL is very straight forward, with only player-to-player interaction in lane, being what requires any real thought. Altough LoL lacks the deny mechanic, I still believe this is true. (There are other ways to deny gold and experience than simply last hitting friendly creep yourself, zoning and good lane control being examples). I think a way to see it is that LoL is a streamlined form of the Dota formula, where player-to-player interaction takes the foreground. Which makes it more accesable, but also a lot harder to secure a win if you're up against an opponent with surperior micro skill. Compared to Dota where good macro descisions can outweigh the shortcomings of potential poor micro. Which game is the lesser boils down to preference in my opinion. Dota is a very complex game with a crazy high skill ceiling, where brain can often triumph over brawn. LoL is a very player-to-player intense game, where you can often brute force your your way out of a bad spot by being the better mechanical player. Also keep in mind that this is regarding mid to high ladder non-pro play, with pro play being a whole different beast for both games.

@@oralevato7848 I don't play either games but your comment makes it very easy for me to understand better not only both games but the comment above as well.

@@oralevato7848 props to you if u actually typed it out yourself

orale vato well this is a surprisingly non toxic explanation. Props 👏🏻. Agreed on the point that league requires more raw mechanical skill to reach the top tier while dota relies heavily on the macro game.

overall I'd give the edge to DotA being the harder game as a whole but the micro skill in league is at a very high level

It's almost look like that they're sibling. Even in get_right's farewell speech, he's the only one who paying attention to get_right. And from the look you could tell how f0rest really care about get_righr

Qudans: laughs in 34

street fighter... do u even understand what is still aiming the same way but with 32 years old? No u dont get it

@@freedomphantom9071 and you clearly don't understand how hard fighting games are

Daigo is 39. Holy shit

I still watch B4nny

Ahh i see, tf2 players

I've seen a lot of esports since I first started watching comp TF2, and it may just be rose tinted glasses, but I've never seen a player in any game who was more impressive than b4nny. And it helps that he's gotten less toxic over the years. I think that's potentially one of the biggest benefits of having older players around. They've had the time to mature a bit get over some of the childishness in gaming while still being competitive and having fun.

Is B4nny still playing Scout, or has he finally made a grand slam tour and won a season as medic?

Yeah b4nny is really good in tf2

@Kai Shipman thats just pure bullshit. the brain is fully formed anywere from 27-35, basicly thats your life's prime, where you are at your peak physicly and mentally, including reaction time and such.

@@dazza1240 No it's not. The brain has many parts that develop at diffrent times. Some are done at 14, some at 18. But the main part, the prefrontal cortex takes upto 35 years to fully mature. Thats why people in their early 30's are still concidered youth.

32 isn't middle aged lol, it's young

Agreed

Like wise

K

For them is also muscle memory

That's a whole another mechanical set of skills, in no way comparable. 1 second is a long ass time in esports.

Baseball is a way better comparison. No bouncing at all.

@@ludvigborga266 the reaction time is comparable, especially when it comes to decision making, i was making a quick comparison in reality its a lot less time to react "The average professional fast bowler (137kph or 85mph) = 0.53 seconds. " still science has proven your reaction times at 30 haven't decreased enough to have a real affect and eyesight is something that is more likely to drop off first