F-ZERO 99's META JUST EXPLODED!

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aleckermit

aleckermit

10 ай бұрын

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@aleckermit
@aleckermit 10 ай бұрын
Notice that xLunaiire tends to spin at every jump as this gives free invincibility frames since jumps restore your spin to full; a great habit in the chance someone tries to hit you.
@novatau2897
@novatau2897 9 ай бұрын
I thought it was just for style or to show off
@Shotgunner_K
@Shotgunner_K 9 ай бұрын
I still do that
@JinxKitzune
@JinxKitzune 6 ай бұрын
3 months later golden fox players are now struggling because of how op the goose and sting ray are it’s rare to see a golden fox player win anymore lol. The only way to win as golden fox is to play for high risk gameplay. If done right you’ll be rewarded
@hansj4832
@hansj4832 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking this meta might be self-limiting, since multiple Golden Foxes doing this would be fighting neck-and-neck. But then I remembered that getting a kill fully refills your health, so that Golden Fox mob will nearly always have one survivor.
@MrScigeek101
@MrScigeek101 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but bumping around slows you down and ruins your ability to boost since the golden fox has shit durability. While the golden foxes are fighting someone with the goose is gonna wreck through.
@GabzAugustoBR
@GabzAugustoBR 10 ай бұрын
I've been using the video's strat. There is always a Golden Fox from the leading pack exploding in the last lap and there's always a blood hungry Wild Goose that somehow got among the leading pack in the last lap
@Clickonmychannel123
@Clickonmychannel123 10 ай бұрын
Good luck ko somebody with the bronze fox
@theedwardian
@theedwardian 10 ай бұрын
It is interesting, and perhaps a bit suspicious that the top 4 racers usually feature a mix of different machines. It's intuitive to think that different maps out overwhelming select for specific machines, but ostensibly most vehicles are viable on most maps despite their differences.
@rabbyd542
@rabbyd542 9 ай бұрын
This game is just a cluster f-$k. No skill everyone just slams into each other and hopes for the best. I wish there was a mode with no collision. Everything they changed regard boosting makes the game worse.
@JohnLattanzio98
@JohnLattanzio98 10 ай бұрын
As a fire stingray player, the amount of power recovered blew my mind
@Zx30
@Zx30 10 ай бұрын
Right? Stringrays are lucky to get 1/3 power on the recovery strip lmao
@rafaelangelsolo
@rafaelangelsolo 10 ай бұрын
This, it might have the fastest/longest lasting boost, but it drains so much energy you are lucky to use it once a lap, and that is not even discussing its regeneration.
@superxavxii421
@superxavxii421 10 ай бұрын
At least you guys can front run off pure speed. The foxes need boost to hold a lead
@Andre-od5hf
@Andre-od5hf 10 ай бұрын
@@rafaelangelsolo stingray doesnt need boost to frontrun. Fox dominates short/easy tracks (which is the majority of them atm so its no surprise its doing really well atm when only the "easiest cup" is available) since you can boost every lap very often, on longer tracks stingray will have an advantage over since it can simply use 1 boost a lap and still keep great speed over a longer track.
@Moss_Dude
@Moss_Dude 10 ай бұрын
same lmao
@MegamanStarforce2010
@MegamanStarforce2010 10 ай бұрын
the first time i saw golden fox's ungodly recovery, literally an entire bar every lap, i knew it was busted. you can just boost non-stop more or less.
@vvlaze
@vvlaze 10 ай бұрын
fuck it we boost fuck it we boost fuck it we boost
@thevgmlover
@thevgmlover 10 ай бұрын
The trade-off being of course you kinda have to use it all, otherwise you're likely about to get overtaken.
@1stAid
@1stAid 10 ай бұрын
On the flip side, it has low durability. That means that getting bumped by other cars takes away more of your bar, which subsequently may prevent you from using the bar for boosting. Sometimes, between a boost or two and all of the bumping chaos, that full bar recharge is a lifeline instead of a lead maker.
@MegaTheman25
@MegaTheman25 10 ай бұрын
Glass Canon ride. If you get caught up in the middle ur done for
@ratzelbarreto2070
@ratzelbarreto2070 10 ай бұрын
What it took you until now to figure it out? Good thing I was 20+ years ahead of everyone.
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Golden Fox was the worst ship in the original F-ZERO.
@vggeist644
@vggeist644 10 ай бұрын
Sure was 😂👌🏽 always been my machine. Got bullied In X and gx
@MrRetrogamingBard
@MrRetrogamingBard 10 ай бұрын
and that's why I picked Golden Fox for F-Zero 99. I never realized its actual potential in this game.
@notpsicoh2107
@notpsicoh2107 10 ай бұрын
Not exactly, there was a very brief time it was considered the best vehicle for Fire Field, for every other course it has always been Fire Stingray.
@rafaelangelsolo
@rafaelangelsolo 10 ай бұрын
@@notpsicoh2107 This guy understands F-Zero.
@Korrux
@Korrux 10 ай бұрын
I had a better time beating King League with it than with the Fire Stringray back then.
@MWilmott
@MWilmott 10 ай бұрын
I never thought I would ever see an F-Zero meta discussion vid in 2023, but here we are! I’m liking this gaming industry timeline.
@psiga
@psiga 10 ай бұрын
3:33 "Where will this lead the game? Will races come down to the final stretch, where ten Golden Foxes all fight to survive on their last ounce of energy?" Fox is always gonna be in our Final Destination. _Working as Nintended._
@EnvyDSin
@EnvyDSin 10 ай бұрын
I can start to imagine Fire Field with Golden Fox only, lol.
@MajorLinkGaming
@MajorLinkGaming 9 ай бұрын
I see what you and @EnvyDSin did there.
@trogdortamer48
@trogdortamer48 9 ай бұрын
@@EnvyDSin If Fire Field is anything like the one in the SNES, it should be the great equalizer for vehicles with high recovery. The energy pit lane is located so that you miss a huge shortcut in taking it. I think it will be good for the meta in the end game.
@Placeholder501
@Placeholder501 5 ай бұрын
Oh no. Not Fox only Final Destination. Lol.
@SuperSaiyanMoses
@SuperSaiyanMoses 10 ай бұрын
this is super smash bros melee all over again
@EnvyDSin
@EnvyDSin 10 ай бұрын
No boosts, Fox only, Fire Field... I mean, Final Destination.
@Hugelag
@Hugelag 10 ай бұрын
FIYA!
@Loren_Law
@Loren_Law 10 ай бұрын
This is what It felt like to use golden fox the first few days, but players are getting better at catching up with the skyway. also players as a whole are getting better.
@Justnothankyou132
@Justnothankyou132 9 ай бұрын
All the children have stopped playing and now it's just the betas
@TedbearFZ
@TedbearFZ 10 ай бұрын
Golden Fox is going to naturally be balanced when Queen cup and especially King cup release imo. The knight league tracks are relatively easy compared to the other 2, Fire Field and Death Wind 2 alone should literally natural select them out of the running lol
@superxavxii421
@superxavxii421 10 ай бұрын
Fire Field will be crazy hard for the foxes if they make one mistake.
@thebuddah1253
@thebuddah1253 10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know when that will be? Getting bored of these current tracks.
@donuts7607
@donuts7607 10 ай бұрын
@@thebuddah1253somewhere late September apparently, and king cup should be somewhere in October.
@rebirthphoenix5646
@rebirthphoenix5646 10 ай бұрын
I’m waiting actually for the Queen League for the Golden Fox since for me it may be easier to win that and not the Knight League mainly due to Silence. Even many years later, Silence still gives me a ridiculous amount of trouble.
@ratzelbarreto2070
@ratzelbarreto2070 10 ай бұрын
We golden fox players don't talk about kings ranks stages it makes us shit bricks.
@1stAid
@1stAid 10 ай бұрын
I've been a Golden Fox user since the very start. I hope that it doesn't get nerfed too hard.
@sunggareachan7540
@sunggareachan7540 10 ай бұрын
Don't bring it to attention!!! Lmao, always been a Golden boy.
@vggeist644
@vggeist644 10 ай бұрын
Lol golden fox in every game 👌🏽
@superxavxii421
@superxavxii421 10 ай бұрын
It won't. The later tracks are harder and will be more punishing for them. It's not op, it's just a glass cannon
@jonr8315
@jonr8315 10 ай бұрын
@@superxavxii421Exactly, Fire Field will be brutal (for everyone, but especially Foxes)
@iamkakashi20
@iamkakashi20 10 ай бұрын
@@jonr8315 yeah they won.t nerf it. the new players that never played snes don.t know whats coming yet. when we get queen and king cup oh boy there gonna know that true pain really is. just wait tell red canyion 2 omg lot of em are gonna be falling off trying to take that short cut.
@Mage_Nichlas_
@Mage_Nichlas_ 10 ай бұрын
I just use the Blue Falcon in 99 because it's the one I used the most as a kid. Favorite color is blue, Captain Falcon is awesome, and so on but I remember also liking how the Golden Fox felt when I was experimenting to get across the jump on White Land II that always killed me. I didn't know until 99 that you can hold up and down to finesse your jump height and landing.
@eudaimonistic
@eudaimonistic 10 ай бұрын
I believe Blue Falcon can't even make vanilla White Land II jump without either holding down or boosting. I died so many hundreds of times on that as a kid...
@Mage_Nichlas_
@Mage_Nichlas_ 10 ай бұрын
It absolutely cannot.
@patchyourselfup
@patchyourselfup 10 ай бұрын
These maps lend themselves well to GF play. Wait till Queen and King courses come in; other machines will have their chance to shine in top play
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 9 ай бұрын
Until people figure out the optimal boost points on those tracks too.
@dackattac
@dackattac 10 ай бұрын
the phrase "f-zero meta" hits real weird
@MarkTomczak
@MarkTomczak 10 ай бұрын
I haven't perfected it, but I suspect that the counter is chasing a golden fox leader with wild goose. On the first lap or two if you race a perfect line behind them, you can keep up with them even with their ridiculous boost. You'll burn through basically all your energy, but here's the thing: So will they. So once they're exhausted and right at the edge of the recharge bar, hit them. You'll regain all your energy for KOing a human driver. High risk. But high reward.
@aleckermit
@aleckermit 10 ай бұрын
That's what the Wild Goose appears to try during the Mute City race in thos video.
@hobojoe285
@hobojoe285 10 ай бұрын
@@aleckermit the mastery of KOing foxes has yet been required by stringrays/gooses. That time will come.
@dave9515
@dave9515 10 ай бұрын
They are not cause wild goose can go to low energy on purpose to push the fox back into the pack. Lunaiire is being carried by players not abusing the pinball physics and responding very aggressively to them trying to frontrun. Only viable vehicles in this game are Goose and Stingray cause falcon and Fox rely too much on boost and are not very durable. Try playing lobbies and frontrunning with people now much better. Its rare not to see a lot of knockouts anymore.@@aleckermit
@nsanity4624
@nsanity4624 10 ай бұрын
I actually wanna bring up that despite this, the game is still balanced. If a Blue Falcon player manages to score any KO's, it now has the leniency of boost like the Golden Fox, making it just a faster Golden Fox. I still think it dominates most tracks, but given Falcon's better grip and speed, it likely can squeeze out a couple wins while the others are left in the dust.
@senpai2.054
@senpai2.054 10 ай бұрын
time for wild goose mains to hunt and destroy golden fox machines
@brazilian_oak
@brazilian_oak 10 ай бұрын
I think most have realized this, but I have to repeat it: NEVER EVER TURN TO AVOID BUMPERS On the original F-Zero they were erratic, both moving on straights and slowing down on corners, but on this game they go on a fixed speed AND on a straight line, meaning that turning is only good for avoiding them in corners, never on the straights Player bumpers are different, of course, but CPU bumpers are straight garbage and full of brainrot. Turning to avoid them means you get a faceful of barrier and a very likely crash out
@Selnathorn
@Selnathorn 9 ай бұрын
Heck, bumpers in the original sometimes even stopped dead in their tracks. I still vividly remember how I almost beat Queen cup on expert as a kid, but in the final lap of White Land 2 a bumper was just standin in front of the jump pad in the exactly loaction I was coming out of the corner. I bumped into it, lost all speed and crashed out in the jump making me lose my last life. Man I was mad
@ThunderRazorYT
@ThunderRazorYT 10 ай бұрын
I thought that was Golden Fox's game plan from day 1, boost and recover to glory. Once you have multiple Foxes up front they start to collide and cannot boost as much giving other ships a chance. However, if you can separate and keep clean lines the #1 spot rarely gets challenged. Players are getting better at using the Skyway, so I think that is giving the Fox a challenge. In fact, I used to see like 7 Golden Foxes in the top 10, now I only see a few, like 3 max.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
That is the gameplan. It's paper thin because as soon as the other cars start taking out players they will be much faster than the golden fox.
@De_kaid
@De_kaid 10 ай бұрын
​@@barcster2003but if you take out players with golden fox you get even more boost time, it's so broken it beats the others at their game too, going for kills is always risky, but especially in a grand Prix getting 2 or 3 kills in a golden fox is a guaranteed win down the line
@SkyBlueFox1
@SkyBlueFox1 10 ай бұрын
TBH I’m not surprised, but I do find it oddly refreshing that the vehicle most suited to new players is also one that’s so strong in the right hands. Like, I initially started off driving the Fox because the recovery was more forgiving towards my newbie mistakes. Recently, I switched to the Falcon and I’ve had a good time with it, but even before seeing this video, I’d been considering going back to the Fox because I feel like I’ve gotten an even better grip on the gameplay. It’s neat!
@trogdortamer48
@trogdortamer48 9 ай бұрын
It's kind of odd to see how this video has already aged in the past 3 weeks. It's crazy to think how quickly the community has learned to play the game. I think that Golden Fox is very dominant in standard, single races, but the Goose is far better for grand prix's simply because it scales so much better with K.O.'s. It's not hard to beat xLunaiiire in the final 2 races of a prix using the Goose if you have sufficient K.O.'s these days, and that's even with xLunaiiire pushing the Fox to its absolute limit. I think the big problem today is that so many players know exactly when to time the skyway and how to farm K.O.'s off players and bumpers in the first two races that it makes the recovery of the fox negligible in the final 2-3 races of a prix. The energy bar scales via a percentage value, not a fixed increase for each vehicle. Because the Goose has 6 boosts in one bar, it scales the strongest from getting a bunch of K.O.'s. Granted enough K.O.'s, the extended fuel tank can outmatch the recovery speed of the Fox, especially in later tracks where the boost recovery pad is shorter. The Goose is also the best suited for farming K.O.'s, since it takes the least damage from player interactions and can comfortably sit in rear places without taking damage. If you can time 2 good Skyways, which are very easy to generate when running a bit from the front, you can jump back into the top 7 places during the 3rd and 4th lap using the extended energy bar. Once you've got your bar extended, it's just frontrunning from then on over the rest of the races in the prix. All that said, the Fox is the most consistent racer. The fact that it's biggest strength is tied up in the boost pad means that you aren't relying on as much RNG to give you the edge in the later races is great if your goal is to rack up leaderboard points rather than wins. I think that the fox has a very good average performance for every race, but will never set any records. And yes, I have beaten xLunaiiire repeatedly with the Goose back when he mained Golden Fox for Grand Prix's. Since then, he tends to run Fox and Stingray for prix's, and to very good effect! I'd say he is among the best Stingray players out there and is very, very difficult to beat. I think he has since made a blend of older 4-lap frontrunning techniques with the Fox and combined them with getting a few K.O.'s here and there in the early rounds. You don't tend to see him frontrunning as much in the first two laps on the first race when he's using the fox, since he's trying to extend the boost meter. He knows that with a well placed Skyway or two, he can get right back into the top 5 and finish in first on the final lap anyway. My chances of winning seemingly disappear whenever I see his name in the lobby.
@spaceman_256
@spaceman_256 10 ай бұрын
I just ran into this guy in a knight league a few hours after watching this!! He got first in every leg lmao. He was rank S18, and according the leaderboard that was his 101st prix win. I, on the other hand, was just trying to unlock the decal for blue falcon. I made it to silence, but that was the race that i discovered you die instantly if you jump and land outside of the track 😂
@CS2SILVER1
@CS2SILVER1 10 ай бұрын
Definitely going to try this still haven't got win but consistently getting top tens.
@danmiy12
@danmiy12 10 ай бұрын
One thing to note is if a golden fox cannot get a lead and falls back, the low top speed hurts it a ton, but at least it can recover a ton of hp. Queen and king cups have more obstacles to worry about so golden fox might balance out if it cannot boost enough to get an early lead and has to conserve hp and not be able to boost, it will drop behind. So far in the easier knights cup i can see it being a top pick for sure.
@sergioescobar1391
@sergioescobar1391 10 ай бұрын
Just a reminder: In the F-Zero anime, the Golden Fox canonically has an S-class booster.
@gr8gamer350
@gr8gamer350 10 ай бұрын
I definitely felt like I noticed a shift from Wild Goose to Golden Fox since launch. I'd imagine when more of the harder tracks get added it will become harder for Golden Foxes to front-run so consistently.
@anthonymudge9768
@anthonymudge9768 10 ай бұрын
And I was just looking at this ship yesterday due to it's acceleration, which I thought was useful when you're being bumped continuously. Didn't even know what "Recovery" meant 😂
@LinktheSamoyed
@LinktheSamoyed 10 ай бұрын
"youve landed some first place finishes" ... looks at my level 23 with no wins record.
@acusterx
@acusterx 10 ай бұрын
Good for them. I'm sticking with Wild Goose at A rank and climbing. When I unlock all the WG skins, then I'll race with other cars to complete the sets.
@EnvyDSin
@EnvyDSin 10 ай бұрын
We all have our main/favorite but I agree with the "play with everyone to eventually unlock everything" thing. That's what I try to do.
@Torjuz
@Torjuz 10 ай бұрын
Title wise, this couldn't be better since 90% of the time you just end up exploding 2 meters from the energy strip, since you get bodied by bumpers or others when you have taken one too many hits earlier when you ended up in 10-30 range LMAO. Golden Fox truly is a glass cannon, though super fun to drive. Was a hardcore sting ray until I saw the potential for this day 2
@insidiousy
@insidiousy 10 ай бұрын
I will always be an advocate for the Fire Stingray (Since I won a Grand Prix with it), but have also noticed how much harder it is to win. The Golden Fox with a few KO's under its belt can dominate lobbies. I've also noticed that taking the Skyway can be more beneficial than staying in the front sometimes? Maybe it's just me, but the final lap of Mute City gets me KO'ed more often than others, due to the explosive bumpers on the final turn. There's definitely a lot more to learn, and more-so with the upcoming tracks. Neat video btw!
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. I think the best way to win a Grand Prix is get a few KOs early in the first race, save your meter until Lap 4 by not boosting and hanging around the 20s and 30s accumulating a couple skyways, then spam boost and skyway in the right spot on Lap 4. As long as you get top 10-5 in the first few races and top 3 in the latter few you will get an easy Grand Prix with this strat. Problem is that you can’t always guarantee a kill
@marble9071
@marble9071 10 ай бұрын
Honestly worst thing about Fire Stingray is having to fight through the crowd. Stingray dose have acceleration problems and that means getting trapped mid pack which can be lethal. If you can make it past the crowd you can front run, IMO Sand Ocean is probably the best track for Fire Stingray right now
@insidiousy
@insidiousy 10 ай бұрын
@@marble9071 oh, absolutely! That also might be my favorite track atm. Right now, I'm just trying to unlock everything.
@Palgrave
@Palgrave 10 ай бұрын
@@marble9071 Fire Stingray is great on Sand Ocean due to its superior cornering, I haven't gotten many 1st place wins yet but one of them was using FS on Sand Ocean
@marble9071
@marble9071 10 ай бұрын
@@Palgrave Driving FS is like Driving a Ferrari but you're on a one-lane road stuck behind a bus. Sand Ocean is one of two maybe three tracks where you can actually make it past the bus. When FS can make it past the bus it's great and is likely to dominate. Sand Ocean and White Land 1 are where FS demonstrates that because that's where it can actually make it past the bus. Port Town 2 being the maybe 3rd
@TheVitaltundra
@TheVitaltundra 10 ай бұрын
It just recovers sooooo much energy.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
Yes it does. I think people arent used to the idea you are supposed to knock other players out with the other vehicles.
@MadX8
@MadX8 9 ай бұрын
@@barcster2003 Good luck catching up with a good GF player though. You'll lose all your energy trying and die. But then again, not all GF have Lunaire's level.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 9 ай бұрын
@TheDanteXIII the issue is it's really hard to get kos.
@hyakin7818
@hyakin7818 10 ай бұрын
And i thought i had figured out the meta game of the fire stingray Stay at around position 50 and farm for sky way In laps 2 and 3 kill as much enemies as you can Just boost the heck out of lap 4
@ronn201
@ronn201 10 ай бұрын
I suspected that since it picked up speed immediately, it'd be the best at cornering. And with most tracks have a massive amount of corners, I knew it had to be a strong contender.
@risel56
@risel56 10 ай бұрын
Man, even in his own franchise, Falcon can't compete with a Fox.
@jtrevor99
@jtrevor99 10 ай бұрын
I'll be interested to see how the Fox does on Death Wind II. On the original SNES game it was literally impossible to take first versus the AI (on Master difficulty).
@TheFreeeemind
@TheFreeeemind 9 ай бұрын
A very haunting and echoing 'Fayyaaah!' gets heard.
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 10 ай бұрын
Didn't know you were still around great video 👍
@dunnono00
@dunnono00 9 ай бұрын
Kinda makes me happy. When I was young, Golden Fox was almost immediately my favorite after reading up on it in Nintendo Power. It looked neat, it was golden, and accelerated like a bat out of hell. Unfortunately, it was also fragile and didn't corner well, so it was considered the worst. The Stingray was what most people went with since it had the highest top speed, great cornering, and also the second most sturdy. I'm glad to see the Fox is a top choice in 99. Feel vindicated in a way lol.
@Koishi97
@Koishi97 10 ай бұрын
I honestly hate how the Golden Fox controls really. The Firesting Ray always has been my go to vehicle since I learned about F-Zero speedrunning because of its amazing top speed and tight handling. But wait till the Queen and King leagues come out. We'll see how long the Foxes last.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
It only works because he takes a lead early and then boosts to the limit.
@josuebasterretxea3923
@josuebasterretxea3923 10 ай бұрын
¡WOW!, i remember Golden Fox used to be the HARD MODE, and the Fire Stingray the meta of the very first F-zero. Maybe that was because it wasn't an online game back then.
@julianofs6041
@julianofs6041 10 ай бұрын
That's because they decided to use boost from F-Zero X instead of the tradicional S-Jet boost of SNES. Best acceleration + multiple boosts + track memorization = 1st.
@rafaelangelsolo
@rafaelangelsolo 10 ай бұрын
Nah. Fire Stingray simply had a broken level of speed gain on arrows, perfect curving with out speed loss, and no slipping when turning as well. Now that boosting comes from energy, and it reduced to maybe one boost a lap, its hard to compete.
@mrsuperheatran2794
@mrsuperheatran2794 10 ай бұрын
I generally switch between the Blue Falcon and the Wild Goose. Not that great of a player but it still just fun to race away at each couse. Best I've placed in is 12th place.
@dmappzoom6778
@dmappzoom6778 10 ай бұрын
I've played with all of the cars, but mostly stick to the blue falcon and 14 was my best position on the first time playing.
@user-th1pv6ks5o
@user-th1pv6ks5o 10 ай бұрын
Yeah 12th is also my best, I usally use fire stingray, but mostly because I'm just trying to grind out the customizables.
@user-gs8jv4oq6w
@user-gs8jv4oq6w 10 ай бұрын
KO’d just before finishing first 😢😢😢😢
@WuShuu
@WuShuu 10 ай бұрын
Ive tried all machines and only managed to win with the blue falcon the gran prix
@splatos
@splatos 10 ай бұрын
I've gotten a grand prix win with all four machines, and I'd definitely have to agree that golden fox is the most consistent. On most of the tracks the other vehicles don't have enough power meter to consistently boost out of corners that force them to lose their max speed (especially after making a mistake or getting bumped at any point in the race), or at least are forced to play extraordinarily risky in order to drive multiple laps without dropping speed. Even on tracks where the fire stingray and others can attain max speed from start to finish of the entire race (death wind I), golden fox still keeps up if not outpaces them with the more frequent boosts from my experience (not to mention the burst of speed the fox gets often really helps in overtaking 1st without them being able to block the fox behind them, while they usually have to creep up behind the fox allowing for it to block its path and knock down their speed when they bump each other). I would say however that with a solid KO or two the fire stingray has the meter necessary to fly across all of the tracks no problem once attaining 1st (I'd say the KO power increase benefits the other machines more than the fox, but it's hard to say how a stingray with 2 KOs would compare to a fox with 2, fox might still be better at holding the lead, especially with how the fox is given 1st from the start while the stingray needs to fight to get there)
@marble9071
@marble9071 10 ай бұрын
Fox wins at Death Wind 1 and Mute City 1 Stingray wins at Big Blue and Sand Ocean Silence is fairly even imo
@starfox300
@starfox300 10 ай бұрын
There is a stingray called Dotman who beat Lunaire multiple times
@ikki-gaming8933
@ikki-gaming8933 10 ай бұрын
In the original F-Zero I only played Fire Stingray, every other car was bad compared to that, but online against 98 people I've noticed, that Golden Fox can lead much easier, bumping doesn't affect its speed as much as of Fire Stingray. Will be interesting to watch how the meta changes with patches.
@owlface5023
@owlface5023 6 ай бұрын
This video, this player. This was the origin of the golden fox hell.
@zerobyte802
@zerobyte802 10 ай бұрын
Golden Fox was always my favorite machine. Watching this run reminds me of what a good run on master difficulty looks like using Fire Stingray. It’s only good if you can get in front and maintain top speed perfectly, and its dash zone behavior seems nerfed. Will be interesting to see if it ever makes a comeback.
@feigneds7302
@feigneds7302 9 ай бұрын
not sure I recall Golden Fox ever being under represented. 9 out of 10 races I do the top 5 are mostly Golden Foxes, and it's been that way from the start.
@vvlaze
@vvlaze 10 ай бұрын
I feel like it doesn’t excel as much in Grand Prix due to extended energy meters carrying over between races. A Fire Stingray that can safely boost a similar amount means Golden Fox’s advantages are far fewer. I’m curious if it will excel as much on future tracks. Boosting might be much harder to abuse when harder turns become more prevalent.
@hobojoe285
@hobojoe285 10 ай бұрын
In single races. Golden fox might become problematic. However in GPs, Wild Gooses and Stringrays have a new goal. Kill foxes, get more boost. Hunt top foxes. The bully class machines will realize their goals. This is where falcon comes back into play being the slightly tankier fox.
@prophetrob
@prophetrob 10 ай бұрын
Bigger bar doesn't help as much when it doesn't fill as fast
@aleckermit
@aleckermit 10 ай бұрын
I do think Stingrays will do well on tracks like Sand Ocean.
@zspro123
@zspro123 10 ай бұрын
Stingrays can keep up with golden foxes on mute city, you just need to make use of getting in front of everyone and making use of the speed boost from people bumping into the back of you. I think stingrays raw speed/cornering can outclass GF's boost.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
​@@prophetrob1 destroy gets you full bar.
@Cool_Hand_Luke
@Cool_Hand_Luke 10 ай бұрын
I did not expect 20XX to come for F-Zero, but here we are
@fsfreturns5242
@fsfreturns5242 10 ай бұрын
I've met xLunaiire in the game, and I got bodied by them on Sand Ocean despite maining GF myself. I do have almost the same boost pattern on Mute City as they do, but I'm trying to conserve a bit of health by keeping one extra boost just in case. And there were times where I was right to keep that boost, since there were times the extra health saved me from being killed by a red bumper.
@Retronize84
@Retronize84 10 ай бұрын
I've done this myself and I'll always end up hitting a bumper and dying, lol
@Shotgunner_K
@Shotgunner_K 9 ай бұрын
The energy recovery makes it a good choice for newbies and the acceleration is PHENOMENAL
@Cheesehead302
@Cheesehead302 10 ай бұрын
I started using this the other day, gonna have to try getting good. Maybe if my internet wasnt so crap and I didnt keep getting connection errors
@StewNWT
@StewNWT 10 ай бұрын
They need to mod It because there never used to be that much variation in recovery between vehicles. He literally gets triple what the pink car gets
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
I think that maybe the recovery of the others could just be a bit better.
@DrNuyenVanFaulk
@DrNuyenVanFaulk 10 ай бұрын
When there’s a gang of foxes in the lead beating the hell out of each other, the ability to boost frequently is going to go. It’ll be a mini battle royale but the victor is still going to be left in a dangerous condition.
@douglasbrzeski668
@douglasbrzeski668 10 ай бұрын
I use the goose. I hang towards the back or the middle on the first lap on purpose. Get a bunch of gold orbs and rack up a kill or two. Then I use the sky way and save all of my boosts for the last 2 laps. I've been pretty consistent.
@mack4691
@mack4691 10 ай бұрын
You don't get to use the skyway when you're gfoxxing so we'll see how useful it is for the harder cups
@Shibanu_
@Shibanu_ 10 ай бұрын
That's exactly what i have been doing all the time and i stay in the lead for the entire race, before crashing out because i eventually run into a red bomb car.
@GoodMomo
@GoodMomo 10 ай бұрын
These Golden Fox players have been dominating since the first few days. They make it look easy but its definitely the hardest ship to use.
@MrDerpHerpinThe3rd
@MrDerpHerpinThe3rd 9 ай бұрын
Bruh it's the easiest to use
@sleeplessarcher
@sleeplessarcher 10 ай бұрын
I prefer fire stringray because of its amazing handling, the thing can take a lot of heavy turns without needing to slow down at all. But Golden Fox is also very fun
@philipmurphy2
@philipmurphy2 10 ай бұрын
I be for sure trying the Golden Fox now.
@slayernano4163
@slayernano4163 10 ай бұрын
You mentioned that Lunaiiiire says that the golden Fox does well on 5/7 of the available tracks. Can you state which ones that they believe the Golden Fox does not do well on? As if it's both Port Land II and White Land I, I think Meta behind vehicle selection will shake up once Queen & King Cups become way more common.
@Aereto
@Aereto 10 ай бұрын
Big Blue's track layout does not take advantage of Golden Fox traits with the exception of turns. It is a fairly long track built to endure. With limited boosts and an ice turn, it's much easier to overextend in an effort to stay ahead.
@themorbidkid187
@themorbidkid187 9 ай бұрын
Its funny, cuz this is exactly how you would play the OG F Zero on the SNES if you wanted fast times and were not a WR speedrunner. Even the spots where he boosts is where you would do it on the SNES along with the fact he strafes to avoid bumpers instead of turning because if you turn you lose top speed.
@iamspikefire
@iamspikefire 10 ай бұрын
After seeing this video, streaming for 5 hours and running into the guy, yeah hes CRACKED
@GabzAugustoBR
@GabzAugustoBR 10 ай бұрын
I play golden fox, I noticed how strong it is to take first place early and hold it when I first got my win (Death Wind course) But I did not know how strong it was to burn a lot of boost early, I always try to conserve it if I fall behind but I get it now: If I boost to first early and drive consistently, I won't fall behind just like my first win
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 10 ай бұрын
Getting ahead = not getting knocked around like a pinball
@mrmediocre848
@mrmediocre848 10 ай бұрын
Plus not boosting other racers while slowing yourself down
@GabzAugustoBR
@GabzAugustoBR 10 ай бұрын
Ok I finally got home and tested it, played Mute City twice, won both lol It really does work, needed some luck here and there and a bit of patience to avoid the red NPCs but it worked, even had two or three other Golden Foxes trying the same strat in the race.
@denniso4405
@denniso4405 10 ай бұрын
This is the machine I've mained since launch, and what I thought the whole time! I couldn't believe early tier lists were putting Dr.Steward in last place.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 9 ай бұрын
Those tier lists were based on early strats which reflected that of F-Zero SNES. In the SNES game the Golden Fox was garbage and was actually incapable of beating Death Wind 2 on Master.
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 10 ай бұрын
Hey do you think you could make a tip video for general speed-saving techniques in 99 mode? Like maneuvering mosh pits and the best way to control around tight corners (do we let go of gas? Eat a wall hit and recover?) Seems like people always do the final turn on Mute City well and I have no clue how
@broden4838
@broden4838 10 ай бұрын
Never knew the true potential of Dr. Robert Stewart
@exp4397
@exp4397 10 ай бұрын
I chose golden fox as soon as I saw it’s stats. My highest rank right now is a 39th in Big Blue, but I am starting to get better
@Mitsu_Vagrant
@Mitsu_Vagrant 10 ай бұрын
What in the actual fuck. That energy recovery speed is broken, I had no idea. I’m going to riot.
@lavawingsplays1627
@lavawingsplays1627 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been driving the Golden Fox since the SNES and still having decent success in 99.
@gekinatracksuit9710
@gekinatracksuit9710 10 ай бұрын
RIP Fire Stingray 1990-2023
@KingCrimson82
@KingCrimson82 10 ай бұрын
Still works in training though
@geo1389
@geo1389 9 ай бұрын
They need to make him faster!
@sinfinite7516
@sinfinite7516 10 ай бұрын
Golden Fox going crazyyyyy
@m3tr0idgrl
@m3tr0idgrl 9 ай бұрын
That grand poo bear guy plays like this
@Falcobird01
@Falcobird01 10 ай бұрын
I saw him in a few races, his racing line is quite neat in White Land.
@xxSKAGhosTxx
@xxSKAGhosTxx 7 ай бұрын
I wish the bumpers would appear so kindly out of my path like this.
@stoi5946
@stoi5946 2 ай бұрын
Ia there an objective reason to spin right before you hit ramp? Or is it just for show?
@zentember
@zentember Ай бұрын
protection from being bumped which can cause issues with your launch angle
@pjgamer780
@pjgamer780 10 ай бұрын
I need to try this, that was ridiculously fast!
@YoMamaBih
@YoMamaBih 10 ай бұрын
Bro that's crazy. He damn near got his whole bar back. No wonder..
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
Golden fox in every game is supposed to be a good boosting car. The problem is f zero 99 ties boosting to energy recovery.
@astrofenix9839
@astrofenix9839 10 ай бұрын
Wild Goose supremacy
@ratzelbarreto2070
@ratzelbarreto2070 10 ай бұрын
Me and my brother both used the golden fox back in 94 and used to beat the whole game. It was bothering me alot on why so many players instead used the golden goose and it suddenly hit me, It was cause of speed runner using it.
@LegatoSkyheart
@LegatoSkyheart 10 ай бұрын
It's amazing as soon as I switched to Golden Fox, I won a race. It's the only Black Ship I own
@mikaelrivacov5705
@mikaelrivacov5705 10 ай бұрын
I'd actually love watching 10 Golden foxes destroying each other🦊😂
@vegothgamer
@vegothgamer 10 ай бұрын
It's interesting seeing the Golden Fox on the lead, it's more closer to the original plot of F-Zero :D Oh well, it seems that I have to change from my Blue Falcon.
@KingCrimson82
@KingCrimson82 10 ай бұрын
in training (unregulated gameplay) a sting still can beat a fox with relative ease
@TheNelman
@TheNelman 10 ай бұрын
I see a rework for the Golden Fox, effectively nerfing it but making it a better fit against the others.
@RefMr
@RefMr 10 ай бұрын
I feel like Fox is better at individual races for sure if you get the lines down. However, I have seen a lot of success in GPs as Goose as their durability let’s them fight it out in the pack. And pick up those kills that make it’s boost bar grow enormous. So by the time of the final race even Goose’s have tons of boost to use after getting 3-5 kills. Sort of evens the odds the longer the match goes on.
@superxavxii421
@superxavxii421 10 ай бұрын
Golden Fox is my second favorite car, Ive been really successful with it cause of the boost recovery
@SpammusX
@SpammusX 10 ай бұрын
Just explains why the only time I ever got first place in a race was when I was using golden fox.
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody 10 ай бұрын
So _That's_ how you win with *Fox* in Classic _F-Zero_ ; *Unlimited boosts!*
@illusionaryheart3325
@illusionaryheart3325 10 ай бұрын
I just started playing yesterday and loved using the Golden Fox cuz of the recovery
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been seeing Golden Fox topping nearly every race / gp recently. Hopefully the meta changes so it’s more balanced or they do a slight nerf to its recovery to prevent it from just constantly boosting without much worry
@AeternamTenebras
@AeternamTenebras 10 ай бұрын
no patch or nerf needed, have you seen the ridiculous amount of energy fox loses when it gets hit?, also, as for the moment we still only have the knight tracks, when queen and king tracks arrive it will sadly be left behind
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 9 ай бұрын
@@AeternamTenebras Getting hit isn't really something you have to worry about if you manage an early breakaway. The bumper patterns are predefined, not random.
@nomorenames5568
@nomorenames5568 10 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how anyone picked anything else than the car with the best acceleration and health recovery in a car fighting game you can die in.
@aleckermit
@aleckermit 10 ай бұрын
To be fair though, the Golden Fox is terrible when stuck in the pack.
@valcaron
@valcaron 10 ай бұрын
Pea brain: "I pick cars based on what will let me win the meta." Galaxy brain: "I pick this car because it looks cool when I smash into people haha."
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
Actually some of the machines are much better for ending other players and will be faster than a golden fox. The issue is I don't know how many people are taking advantage of the combat ability and the speed and cornering.
@jc___underscore___
@jc___underscore___ 10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen all four ships among the top spots when I’ve played
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 10 ай бұрын
They all defintely can.
@tsukinoakuma
@tsukinoakuma 10 ай бұрын
Does it come in pink?
@paulchapman8023
@paulchapman8023 10 ай бұрын
The video shows what happens when one player uses Golden Fox extremely well, but I suspect that if there were two or more such players, using that many boosts would be much more dicey. If the hares all blow each other up, it might be a tortoise that ends up winning the race.
@ShamwowYeah
@ShamwowYeah 10 ай бұрын
one hare blows up the other and now has full boost though
@paulchapman8023
@paulchapman8023 10 ай бұрын
@@ShamwowYeah fair point. I forgot that causing a KO replenishes boost power.
@QxCooL
@QxCooL 9 ай бұрын
don't mess with dr. stewart!
@crabwaluigi
@crabwaluigi 10 ай бұрын
I maimed him anyways badass theme in GX
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