I thought you got bored from KZfaq. It was 2 months ago since your latest video.

Same. Awesome video tho 🤷‍♂️❤️

We are still on turbo hybrid era

Overtake mode is battery boost. The reason overtake mode isn't used as often is because it drains the battery much more quickly. In qualifying, the deployment the electrical boost (both MGU-H and K) is pre-mapped to deliver boost in certain section of the track. This is done to ensure battery last the entire lap. Overtake mode drains it in like, half a lap or less at full power, which is useless in qualifying. What you're thinking of is fuel trim. And that's called engine modes. Engine modes/fuel trim and still be changed during a race in case oddities in the engine sensors are detected but it should not increase power, merely change driveability.

@@edk1124 Not technically. They labeled the "Turbo hybrid era" 2014-2021... although using the same engines, we are currently in the "Ground effects" era

This is actually a reupload

@@Bullii From where?

@@cahill22 I posted this vid last year and it got deleted, so I reuploaded it.

It's hard to use it when your out of the race by lap 2

Maldonado didn't need a overtake button to win a race with a williams 🐐

​@@zeenu7651that's why he's called lord Maldonado

@@MangoIsLove55 I'd argue avocados are love too

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Thanks. I enjoy your breakdowns and insights.

No worries!

probably because of the jazz music.

Thanks! Full support to you

I mean you give proper analysis F1 and the organization just want every possible dollar god forbit someone like you making content out of it. Thank you for the awesome content.

The weight from the fuel makes a significant difference as well, 120kgs of fuel is an enormous difference from the quali fuel load

@@sanjeevnookala3694 Didn't think about THAT either!!

Also you have to keep in mind that they have to manage the tyres more in the race 😅

@@KonstantinosDoulias Haha! The things I don't think about. Of course as they're just gunning in Quali!

the run the same ice engine maps in the race as qually so the difference in power is not as dramatic anymore. so as others have mentioned the slower speed is due to fuel weight and drivers managing their tires.

do you know of any good ressources for the lay person to learn about automotive engineering?

@@ewearpel9990 for KZfaq videos I'd start with driving 4 answers. He's good. For books, I'd have to think longer. youtube.com/@d4a?si=xuaX9WSVX5BlCedS

Why?

I second this

Because we get nervous the text will disappear and we don't want to pause the video.

Hey man, just use the built in player controls

@@seaalon138 Because having just a few words on screen for much longer than necessary is frustrating when you don't know how far to skip ahead. Cool vid tho.

Nos in real life here

This is the case since 2021 ICE mode ban. Before that, ot button could also change the engine mapping like fuel mixture.

Doesn't overtake mode allow the exhaust gases to bypass thebturbo through the wastegate, so that there's lesser back pressure meaning maximum ICE power? It also means the MGU-H will have to spin the turbo.

@@yelistenerDo you think this could also have something to do with redbulls advantage since 2021?

@@Morgan-iv4yeYes, in two ways. IMO Verstappen wouldn’t have been champion in ‘21 without this rule change, which was aimed at curbing Mercedes’ dominance. And yes, it also means that teams don’t have as much ability to make up for poor aero concepts by just running their ICEs at max power for parts of the race and then dialing them back for others.

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YOU'VE GOT BOOST POWER

3 engine per season made it impossible.

But for season 2021 Mercedes had taken several times of 10 grid penalty for changing the internal combustion engine. I believe it was to allow Hamilton for running at near full power from after the summer break (was it Spa?) until Abu Dhabi.

Since 2022 season the party modes and overtake modes, ala merc 2021 interlagos monster is gone. They have to stick with a power mode on the icu. If it is for a whole weekend or they have some leaniency and need to keep that mode for a certain majority. The electric motors they have full control over which mode and power in the race but it is not as powerful as icu+ electrics in a overtake party mode. And less engines total also limits the use of party mode

@@Infigo96 yes, that's right with the ICE settings; the problem is the battery in general - it will never have enough capacity to give full power all the race and the energy will always have to be managed :( and there is also the matter of tyres. My point is that lapping ~5 seconds or more slower in the race than in quali is just ridiculous 🤷🏿

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i think “ERS” is basically nitrous?

Not quite, this button was working in a different manner in 2021. In 2021 what you saw was merc desperately finding the best engine they might have produced (remember that these are hand built, power differs from engine to engine). They have found the highest horsepower engine they could produce, ran it to it's limits because it only needed to run 3 races, then BAM, cheat mode activated for the Brasil race 😂😂

Probably just a boost adjustment

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Then you get lower peak power or a grid full of DNFs.

Could that also be considered less predictability?@@Ovenman940

More of unlocking the limiter than a boost but it does sounds rather cool

some teams use press and hold some just use a simple button

Pretty sure most PTP (push to pass) buttons in various race cars are hold buttons instead of toggle buttons. This ensures that the driver doesn't "misclick" and accidentally keep the ERS on full deploy. Race cars that have a PTP system usually have it on an ERS (hybrid) system - it controls the electrical output of the ERS system, it doesn't boost the ICE power as the poster claims.

Each team has its own OT button setup, so it differs by car. At least for McLaren, a single press will override the energy harvesting settings of the hybrid system, while a longer press will deploy energy and increase speed.

they are faster in quali, before 2021 it was even more difference nowadays is mosty weight of the fuel (you have to do the full race on a full tank, quali is with minimal fuel) and tire management (in quali you don't do it so you go even faster). battery recharges under breacking (not only but mostly) so the battery recharges and can be deployed for extra power

@@russko118 Thank you for the detailed response, really interesting information. I hope you're having a great day :)

Check pinned comment.

@@yelistener oh ok that makes sense 👍🏾

no, it adds power

@@russko118 yeah, by allowing the engine to rev higher

@@Rose_Butterfly98 i don't think rev count as much as higher fuel usage and mapping of the engine and more power from the elecrtic engine. Never heard (in modern f1) of adding revs, usually those engines are alredy at the best between durability and peack power and ofc compressed af. doing something like 800 hp with a v6 that doesn't destroy itself is impressive isn't it? i suppouse thay cold have higher revs but does an engine like that last serval races?

@@russko118 the video said that the engine is normally rev limited to below the actual rev limiter and the button just lets it use full power. I used to think it was a boost from the hybrid system. But it didn't make so much sense why all the Renault engined cars at one point couldn't use it. It seems that whatever it did confused the ECU and shut the engine

Nope Overtake stays on unless the driver switches it off

​@@Jared_Barnesovertake does not always stay on. bottas didnt manually turn overtake off during his battle with hartley. when he had to brake going up eau rouge the overtake was automatically turned off.

I would assume if you're not 100% on throttle it deactivates itself?

If I'm not wrong, pretty much all F1 teams use a hold button for overtake rather than a toggle.