This is Where AMS2 Shines. Open wheelers and Historical tracks

Although we Brazilians love video games, we are not one of the countries that produces them the most, so it's really cool to see youtubers commenting and playing our games, especially racing games, since motorsport is another of our passions. Your videos are great, thanks for sharing them with us.

the mp4/6 was the last h-pattern car to win a world championship

11:20 - Ground effects were outlawed after the 1982 season, though Gordon Murray and the rest of the Brabham design team were working under the assumption (from their heretofore-well-connected boss, one B. Ecclestone) that they'd be legal for one more year. Consequently, they'd managed to build three examples of the ground effect BT51 and started testing it when FISA said, "Oh by the way, everyone has to run flat-bottom cars starting in 1983." This was about *SIX WEEKS* before the season opener in Brazil, so not only did Murray and staff manage to design and build a second new car during the same off-season, but that car (the BT52) also managed to win on debut and eventually take the drivers' world championship.

Love that BT-52 is a kicking horse even leaving the pit lane. That mad arrow was one of the wildest F1 cars I’ve ever seen.

The mega high power from the BMW engine was by 1986 where most credible sources quote a maximum power of 1350bhp in qualifying, in 1983 they probably started the season with 650 bhp and by the end of the season they were starting to push 800bhp thanks to advances in fuel technology. Throughout 1984 BMW kept pushing the limits of engine performance with a disastrous effect on reliability, this was a season when Piquet claimed pole in 9 of the 16 races but only won twice with back to back wins in Canada and Detroit and retired in 9 other races!

I'm Brazilian so it´s an insta-buy for me!

I've had an on-off experience with AMS2 since its release - sometimes I have a lot of fun, sometimes I scratch my head confused by the physics, but what now makes up the Formula Classic Gen 4 class was always the one I wanted to be good. On release it was dire, but now it's what I boot the game up for. Trying out the MP4/6 yesterday, along with the VRC SuperTourers released just before, has made me a very, very happy person. What a time to be in this amazing hobby. We really are spoiled.

Reiza have done a superb job on these cars. They are things of utter beauty. I really wish AMS2 was granted a console release.

So your CART videos made me go and get the game and dlc’s 2 days ago and I have spent 26 hours in it just having so much fun. Even in cars that I never had interest in are a blast to drive like these. . And I’m doing that as I binge watch all the RBR streams and building a model car too. From one Boston guy to another- thanks for the great stuff!

I'm a big fan of your reviews and races. I especially enjoyed this review of the Brazilian Racing Legends. I always learn so much from your exact historical summary. You bring a lot of additional enjoyment to my long-term involvement with sim racing. Nobody covers the details of what sim racing provides as well as you do. Keep doing what you're doing!

Reiza has been such a much better steward of the Madness engine than its past creators/owners.

I think BMW reached its peak 1400hp by 1986, not 1983, and the engine capacity for turbos didn't change. Only turbo boost was resctricted to 4.0 bar in 1987 and to 2.5 bar in 1988, having effectively reduced the horsepower twice in qualifying trim. I also recall there were "special" engines and ultra-soft tires in 1991, so that lap records would stand unbeatable for many years, e.g. Senna's 1.21,114 pole at Monza. At Silverstone, the Brazilian clocked at 1.21,618 in his MP 4/6, much faster than you predicted. I personally would like to watch how the races in 1986 and 1991 cars looked like. Those years many teams were close to each other with strong drivers.

The BT52 is pure villainy as a car. One of this with Nelson driving surely give the same feeling of watching Darth Vadder in a Tie-Fighter/Advanced. Drive it on AMS2 is the same than fly a FW-190 in an Oleg Maddox's sim. Just feel as good as it can be

Another great GP Laps video. Delicious inspiration, and some education! Thank you! 🙂

Wow, this video was such a beautiful journey through time. With the sun setting more and more with each car, noice!

Happy New Year Jake - thanks for the great content in 2022 and looking forward to more of the same quality in 23. And what a start! Please do test the fan car - I loved that one for its brief F1 career.

Reiza keeps on amazing me, their development team are absolutely on it! Your reviews are fantastic too and I enjoy learning a lot from them. Thanks

Awesome showcase. Such a good guy PK!

Someone should make a mod to allow the player to give the finger to the other drivers for the full Piquet experience.

Honestly you can't keep me away. Absolutely loving the BT-52 and MP4/4 (during the whole video I was driving the MP4/4 at Suzuka, I like having something in the background while I hot lap). Reiza keeps hitting it out of the park and I just know that it's because these cars and tracks are always given the time they deserve. Now it's the wait for skin packs! XD

great GPLaps video, I bet all your Brazilian followers will love this video as much as I do! 🇧🇷🇧🇷

I loved this video thank you 👏👏👏 I've like and I am subscribed I have purchased this pack on the strength of your video thanks again from the UK 👍

Happy new Year Jake! Thank you for your all great Videos!

Great video as always. One thing I want to correct though is that the MP4/4 wasn't even close to the first carbon fiber monocoque. That distinction, surprisingly enough, actually goes to the MP4/1 from 1981. It was designed by John Barnard. Gordon Murray designed the MP4/4. Within a couple of years of the MP4/1 debut in 1981, most teams were using carbon fiber monocoques. The Lotus 98T had a carbon fiber and Kevlar Aluminum honeycomb monocoque. Love your channel. The cars you feature are near and dear to me, as they are from an era when I first fell in love with auto racing. Keep up the good work.

Great video, very entertaining and informative

AMS2 has its constant minor-but-irritating niggles, but I found myself smiling from ear-to-ear, whilst driving the MP4/5B at Jerez 1988.

The BT52 is IMO the hardest to drive car in the pack and it isn't close. The Lotus 98T even at 100% boost is a walk in the park compared to the BT52. You really have to create a unique driving style for it compared to any of the other retro gen 3 cars. I find keeping the car in higher gears than you think help keep the back end tame while avoiding the nasty turbo lag you can experience in 1st-3rd gear. The turbo lag really is brutal with default fuel or lower, the lateral grip is the worst in class, and the back end wants to come around super easy unless you fill the car up with a lot of fuel. I'm not sure if it is intentional, but the rear wing is non adjustable and the front wing only has 3 positions I believe. These areo settings are drastically different from every other retro gen 3 car. It has the most potential in class, but I find the generic turbo to be almost as quick over one lap, while being dramatically easier to drive lap after lap. The best drivers though could probably dominate with the BT52.

McLaren went to paddle shift with the introduction of the MP4/7A at the 1992 Brazilian Grand Prix

Great video!

Babe wake up! Jake uploaded! Happy new year to you, and thanks for your content! Always awesome!

thank you so much for honoring the legends of Brazilian motorsport

Great channel! 🎉Happy new year

Nice review and I got so familiar with the old F1-cars in AMS2, I prefer the most challenging ones like the BT52 and glad they've fixed it. During the beta it was behaving far worse than now probably to BOP the cars a bit more, since the BT52 just smokes the rest so easily on the straight. I suggest trying out Fontana road course with it, the track with just one corner that benefits from downforce👍

The BT52 is one of the most beautiful f1 cars ever

Great job m8

With the BT52, you need to keep the rpm as high as you can through all the gears, this might mean using a lower gear in places you'd not expect. Blipping the throttle round corners ala Senna is also a useful technique to perfect.

BT49 my favourite F1 car of all time the shape the look and the brilliance of the paintwork to accentuate starkness of the colours. The fact Piquets helmet was red and white just looked incredible also as a contrast. A wonderful time for the battle of Jones and Piquet.

McLaren pioneered fully carbon fiber tubs, but that went all the way back to the start of the Ron Dennis era and the MP4/1, which lasted from 1981-83. Steve Nichols had previously worked at Hercules (a defense contractor that ended up supplying the materials for McLaren's early carbon fiber cars) and he convinced John Barnard to try using carbon for the whole chassis rather than just bolt-on parts. Seeing both the performance and the crashworthiness of the MP4/1 on track, all the other teams followed suit over the next few years.

Pretty fun watching this as I build a Tamiya 1/12 scale Lotus 78 plastic model.

Another great video with historic info. You should get a Netflix series 🙂

34:00 With a little practice I was able to clutchless shift up and down. Typically I find it more difficult on upshifts, but I found this car to be easier imho.

I usually default to testing cars at Silverstone (if it's available) in my simracing experiences...I feel like the track has a near-perfect mix of fast corners and straights, mid-speed sections (where you can test the car's feelings towards throttle manipulation), and slow-speed corners to test acceleration. To me, I think you can get a really solid understanding of any given car at this track.

Jake, with your 1.25.4 in the 4/6 you would have qualified in P21 in 1991. Mansell got Pole with 1.20.939, Senna had P2 with 1.21.618.

I got into F1 in 2021, but I love the look of the MP4/5! The proportions of the MP4/6 look a bit awkward to me from the side but it looks incredible from the front. Both very nice looking cars and very different looking from the enormous cars of the contemporary formula.

greetings from brasil !

Great video Jake as always. You mentioned VR, and I'm a VR user exclusively. Do you use VR yourself? As a guy who loves the realism and immersion I imagine you'd love it.

This update is sick!

The BT52 is one of the most beautiful F1 cars ever.

MP4 in VR is so relaxing 🤗

I'd still say that the Lotus 49 and 72 are fairly recognizable, in one guise or another. I imagine there may be a few F1 cars that have more outright wins than the MP4/4. Cars like the Alfa Romeo 158/159 and Lotus 49 and 72, as well as the Maserati 250F, come to mind. And as for percentage over a season, Ascari did pretty well in his F2 Ferrari in 1952-53. The Lotus 98T gets more notoriety, but I'd have to say that the 1987 Williams FW11B is still plenty recognizable; that's the car Piquet took to his 3 drivers' title. Senna was certainly one of those most famous for just slinging those turbo F1 cars around a lap in Qualifyng. And even without the side skirts, a number of those cars still had whacking great venturis sticking out the back of them. Come 1988, of course, F1 was looking to phase out the turbos altogether. The 3.5-liter formula was going to kick in in full force in 1989. I think I prefer the look of the MP4/4 over the MP4/5B. Part of it is probably that you don't have the black [Marlboro] lettering to break up that huge, white airbox. Funnily enough, I came in late watching F1 around 2000, and I don't find those to be the best-looking era of F1 cars by any stretch. The 2000 McLaren and Arrows were pretty good, but I definitely prefer the look of a number of the 1985-88 turbo F1 cars. There's a smattering of the 1978-82 machines as well. And then it's back to the wingless wonders of the 1960s and '50s. Some of the '50s cars win in my book in terms of pur sex appeal with the smooth, curvaceous bodywork. (Hey, it's also why I like so many of those Sports Racers and Sports Prototypes of the probably 1955-70 period so much.) Interesting you say that. The 4.0-liter V12 original to the Ferrari 333SP sounds pretty good, but I think the Judd V10 that Doran Lista put in their chassis gives it a run for its money. Williams was also perfecting their active-suspension system, as we'd see in 1992. The bottoming sound effect doesn't sound totally off the mark though, actually.

Love the bt52 most beautiful single seater ever made along with the mp4/6

wow, that bt52 is incredible

Damn, that BT52 is sexy. Such a beautiful car and definitely the reason to get this DLC if I do. What a pocket rocket compared to todays turbo cars.

Why does the wheel in the Brabham BT49 look so off center? Great Video Man!!

Must have!

what an awful time to have ruined my PC, what a beautifully produced dlc from Reiza!

I think the fw11b will be in part 2

44:30 shifting through the cars or perhaps phasing through.

From cars I’ve driven with dog boxes, just lift it up shift and heal/toe on the down shift.

The BT52 is by far my favorite.

It would be great if Reiza did some DLCs with classic F1 seasons, especially 1980s seasons. It's so much more exciting than nowadays F1.

Steve Nichols sure could design a car. '88 and '16 seasons have this weird thing in common that both teammates came to the last round to decide the championship and the defending champion lost his title to a non-champion, only to claim it back the next season. Useless, but cool info.

What time and date are you in with the BT49? Looks great.

I honestly feel it’s a shame we didn’t get an FW11B as opposed to the Lotus. Iconic car for sure but I’ve driven it in nearly every sim to come out in the last 5 years, it’s even been included in Gran Turismo.

i’m just here hoping someday we can see a first party bt55 probly my favorite f1 car ever even tho the 52 is quite similar

It seems to me MP4/6 is the most comfortable for steering.

AMS2 needs to improve the replays. The cars sound awful via external camera

It would be awesome if you could host a vertual silverstone classic using a tone of different races and cars

I don't think anyone knows which gearboxes were used in the early 90s, a good example is the 1993 Tyrrell. The wikipedia for this car says it's a semi-automatic but footcam from the car shows Ukyo Katayama using heel-and-toe and 3 pedals.

AMS2 always seemed interesting but I have never pulled the trigger on it. Iracing is my go to for online and Raceroom for my single player. Though I will go months without touching Raceroom. I like some of the cars and vintage versions of tracks AMS2 as to offer but I just don't see myself playing it much.

would be nice to have brake disc glow. happy ny ⭐

the only mp4/4 fail in itly was because of gearbox for prost and senna was taken out by mansles sick replacement Jean-Louis Schlesser conter steared his car back on track and into senna Gerhard Berger had his day for Ferrari and a shock 3-4 for arrows

Wonderful all cars....then you try online and only gt3

Senna wiggle before everyturn.

That MP4/5 and MP4/6 engine note. That is F1 with V10s for me. Need a lot more of that. C'mon, Liberty, give us back that banshee scream of a V10 sound. F1 should be loud, and grab yer attention, none of this hybrid turbo quiet stuff

Is this the fov you use, or is this just for our benefit? When I set my fov correctly with my wheel I can barely see the tires or side mirrors. I have been trying to only use h pattern on these cars and that makes it extra challenging

The BT-52 must have gone through engines like they were going out of style

I just wonder if that whistle in the background of the MP4/5 is realistic. To me it does not. A few minutes ago i noticed this DLC is on discount and i wanted to get a feel for it from my trusted sources like GPLaps. Oh the MP4/6 has it as well.

Senna said the 98T was the best car he drove

I bought it! I did it! I'm done! But i laugh! 😆

Ik it’s soon, but I’d love to see you do a tribute video to ken block. Such a huge impact to racing and sim racing. I loved this video and how you do all your vids so I feel if anyone can do this Hoonigan Icon his respected tribute sim video, it’s you Jake.

This isn't your fault, I suspect it's the game or maybe the refresh rate on my TV, but on those long shots of the cars approaching down the Hangar Straight there's a ton of jittering.

Where is Jose Carlos Pace's Brabham BT44 ?

Lotus 98T №11 is Johnny Dumfries car. Did Automobilista 2 can't buy №12?;-))

The replay in AMS2 still sucks… It‘s the main reason why I not use AMS2 that often. Just two minutes of recording. You cannot jump to a specific time etc….

I thought you kept saying P.K. lol. I'm like, who TF is P.K.??? This channel is so badass

Did they fix the issue where you can’t AltTab out of the game without it disconnecting the wheel? After the last update with the GTP Vett and historic Spa it started doing that to me. I ain’t loaded AMS2 since.

MP4/8 when? lol

Shame the Senna's Tolman isn't in there.

*FASTER'S PREMIUM EXPORT.*

Isto é BRASIL 🇧🇷👏

The only thing that I don't like about that DLC is that we can't buy the individual cars. I honestly just want the 91 Mclaren, those are my favourite class to drive in AMS 2 and feels bad to buy 5 other cars that I'm not going to use more than once. With the premium track pack we can buy individual circuits, would be nice to be abled to do the same in this one

I wish they'd change the spark effects in ams2. it's the same ugly ones from pcars that are stuck to the car and move with it somehow lol

Emmerson could easily have 5 Indys.

How the hell was the 1991 pole lap a 1:20.939 💀💀💀

Too small vibrations of cockpit. And there is no tilt of the cabin. It is all negatives that I see.

Would be nice with Danish F1 driver .. Frank Williams Racing, Ram, McLaren, steward ford, Minardi,mclaren now with Mercedes, Renault, Haas all generally poor cars at the time

Love the pack, but the BT-62 in the same carset as the BT-46B is the biggest turn off to every F1 fan, definetly the biggest immersion killer They should add a new Formula Retro Gen Cars to fit better the 1981-ish Atmosphere....

Reiza found during mid-2022 they had been battling with the Madness Engine canned physics which was supposed to have been fully disabled. They found the ME physics was still partly in use and was messing up their own physics engine. Once this was discovered, Reiza had to totally overhaul their own physics engine had was compensating for the interference from the ME physics they had not realised was there. This was the cause of one of the delays but a delay we could all get behind. Ever since then AMS2 has grown to be the go to simulator for accurate physics and FFB. Anyone not agree? You need to reset your wheelbase settings and start again without all the nasty little tweaks put in to compensate for slow FFB and physics rates in rf2 and iRacing. Indeed, *each and every simulator needs entirely different wheel setups - there is no one size fits all.* I run every sim in competition you can possibly imagine; each has an entirely different wheelbase configuration as a baseline per sim, followed by changes for each vehicle car depending on its drive line physics. One thing to note, if your wheelbase is under 5Nm, you will only ever have "gamey" FFB. Complaining about FFB "reality" when you are running a G920 is pointless. There is nothing wrong with using a G29/920 and the like (my boys use my old G920 on PC and XBOX), but using the word "realistic" with such a wheelbase shows a lack of experience. Once you go Direct Drive or even a decent belt-driven wheel, you will come to understand of what I write.