Horizontal impacts aren't the ones which cause you to pass out, that's a vertical g as vertical GS pull blood down form your brain

I still think 53G getting out of the car on his own with the eventual help of medical staff then corner workers. Miracle is not too strong of a word even with the HANS device, HALO, nomex suit and everything else.

@@Alucard-gt1zf pretty sure boxers would disagree with you. Concussion from an accident like this are the most likely to cause a blackout

@Don’t Lie I would agree and expand that the halo and HANS device truly helped with the very high G force of the impact (in addition to what you said)

With one shoe on.

Dr. Ian Roberts. He's a champ.

Also before he grabbed on to Grosjean's arm u can se him being pushed back by the flames but takes a step back in to grab and pull Grosjean away from there. He is getting seared by the heat and yet he still stays there to grab Grosjean and pull him away.

it's stuipidity to do that too fast, as you see he backs up as he goes too fast either go WITH protective gear, or don't go at all... even in such a situation self-protection is the first and the most important thing if you want to be able to help others

Markus go bring your anger somewhere else this guy is a hero

@@juicypanda677 Not anger... It's my professional opinion as a fireman. He's a professional as well and should know better.

Fr its different when ur watching live. I had a similar experience i was very concerned when i was watching that live. My anxiety went up noticeably

Me too... I think we’d be talking about something else had it not been for the halo and the way the car went through the Armco. I don’t want to say what it’d be about but you all know what I’m talking about.

I thought too

@@DustinBruce31 pretty much if not for the halo it would have been a repeat of helmuth koinigg at watkins glen in 1974

Yep. For me, I kept repeating "oh no" for a few minutes after the crash. It looked really bad.

Should have been like that since 2018.

I hated it, and I didn't think it was necessary. But I was wrong.

I'm here from 2021 to thank the Halo for saving Lewis Hamilton's life.

It also saved Charles Leclerc when Alonso went over him in the 2018 Belgian GP.

@@philycheezesteak5176 When Hulkenberg crashed into Alonso and then Alonso went over Charles

when you are sitting in flames you are much more able to do, because of the adrenaline

@@Pferdesalami das meine ich ja 👍

@@Pferdesalami But it's a fine line between adrenaline and panic.

well technically the car was already in half, so........

Er hatte Glück das er nicht ohnmächtig wurde im Auto, er hat sich zum Glück retten können.

NONE SHALL PASS

he is OK.

It's just a flesh wound

Peoples Front of Judea, oh sorry wrong film :)

r/unexpectedmontypython

@Finley NoScope i washed my clothes too

The critical link in the chain was Grosjean's bonehead driving.

Yep, fantastic analysis - loved the break down. It's important to notice that all of this happened in an instant as well.

An insane slinky effect at high speed for sure

It was kinda funny because the instant he crashed and the fireball the safety car just spawned into the frame with lights on in the camera of turn 4 which would be the first people to help him. He talked in the interview how relieved he was when he realized some1 was physically close when he walked out and some1 was talking to him. And those people basically spawned in. I guess they mustve been following the cars.

I hadn't seen that moment before and it made me tear up - I could just imagine Dr. Roberts saying ''You're okay, Romain, I've got you.''

@@Caroline-rv8wy he actually said for him to sit down but it would be nice

@@Alucard-gt1zf Yes, we know that now. But it was still a very comforting moment I think.

That's why he is the medical delegate, he knows his job. 😅

I've now seen the post incident interview (Sky Sports) with Romain, he talks about this moment. His telling of it is humourous.

Yeah right. He even leans forward a bit, like thinking its not real, checking for Romain

Gosh that sent chills down my spine

you can see a lot of frustration in his initial check, but the second look is just pure fear and disbelief, i didn't notice that before

Not to mention later in reflection that he went through a wall - halo first.

seeing him in the medical car was the moment i knew he was okay. i was incredibly worried

@@TheKincognito Yeah, I think we all were. It looked horrible.

Definitely an "ive just cheated death" look on his face.

After it cut to him in the medical car I quickly went from 'ah he's ok' to 'jeez he looks in shock though'.

@@TheKincognito After that shot I was still really woried that there could have been an marshall or firefighter just behind that barrier, but at the moment they showed replays I was relieved.

I'm convinced it saved Leclerc, the halo had damage from Alonso's car. That was the scariest thing I'd seen before this.

@@Caroline-rv8wy yes, I do agree to that. Still don't want to Tigger anyone that denies the halo saved leclerc😂

To add on that from the future, it just saved Hamilton’s life yesterday in Monza.

@@drbadzer yep indeed

Even further from the future, Guanyu Zhou at Silverstone, plus the F2 Incidents on the same weekend...

Ya

Such is the mind of a firefighter, having been one myself, it comes natural, as you said, pure instinct.

if your talking about the one on the inside of the guardrail he was WORTHLESS. He was standing WAY too far back for the fire extinguisher he was using to have ANY effct at all on the fire, he should lose his job, he was a COWARD.

@@billh5663 Bill, did you even read my comment properly mate? The guy on the far LEFT of the screen who is RUNNING towards the fireball at 6:09 All the information you need is right there. No, I'm not talking about the guy in the bright yellow helmet at 7:49 who activated his fire extinguisher far too early and did absolutely nothing for the rescue effort. Do me a favour and READ before commenting on the future. KZfaq comments are bad enough as it is.

Fun fact: that firefighter was promoted to sargent the day after for his bravery

Its surreal to think that he would be dead 3 years ago.

@@SadMarinersFan yeah like jules bianchi. Roman is a great driver and not one we would want to die

@My Name Is Nobody i'm agree he got a lot of crashes..he is a great person but not a F1 driver

@@SadMarinersFan even probably two years ago

@@Grant80 i think he would have survived in 2018, just potentially with more burns because of the less thick Nomex suit. I said 3 because 2017 was the last season without the HALO.

Yeah even then he would need to give back the position!!! I mean, he cut the chicken

Wanna crash? Bwah....

If he would've had the drink, he could overtake the kids on gravel xD

Need to improve retarding surface materials on run offs

@@Adityapilot93 No, Aditya, he will not have the drink! :P

He's only got himself to blame.

in f1 you cant check ya blind spot lol

@@ianhopkins7457 Yes I know that. The mirrors can only see straight back.

This is not an everyday driving.

They should add blind spot monitoring to these cars

Falou tudo, Sérgio. INESQUECÍVEIS! É importante frisar que há males que vêm para o bem. Que o Pietro aproveite a oportunidade. Ainda mais após a assinatura do Mazepin. Abraço. P.S.: Vida longa ao seu canal!

Never

I never thought I'd see such a crash live on tv.

Was that Romain's wife who covered her mouth in the Haas pits? Absolute terror on all their faces.

E ai Botecoo ..... acho que vc concorda que 1* problema foi o guardrail que falhou e travou o carro. 2* o tanque de combustivel deveria estar preso na parte de tras do arro deixando o piloto livre de combustivel . 3* os fiscais de pista ( sei la o nome marchels ??? ) eles precisam de um treinamento muito melhor. O cara chegou e demorou uns 5 ou 7 segundos para abrir o extintor. com esse tempo é mais do que o suficiente para o piloto apagar com o gas carbonico . 4* deveria ter mais carros de anti incendio na pista de prontidão nos pontos mais criticos de acidentes graves. Eu vi muita demora para eles chegarem . Sobre o guardrain considerando que é uma pista de F1 , o guardrail deveria ser é Softwall. Os caras gastam milhoes em carros , e nao podem gastar 100 mil em barreiras de softwall ? Tenso isso não acha ? Açs

Agreed. This is easily the best analysis so far.

Awesome as always.

the best so far

That's all I needed to commit to the 11 minutes! 😅

I fell asleep, could've easily been condensed to a quarter of the time at least. He just loves talking.

I think he gave up that race at that point cause he didn't speed up

I would have stopped. You could see the fireball start in the camera at 4:36 can you imagine the shock and imediate thought to that happening. "I just bumped a tire and the car went straight into the barrier and exploded.... "

@@fquezada15 there's nothing you could've done as a driver

@@fquezada15 Laudable sentiment, but it'd be over before you go out of the car yourself.

The medical car follows the pack during race starts so it was already right there. This is a prime example of why that practice exists

I think the FIA incident report stated that they did cut the first corner by protocol.

He did cut T1. There’s a service road that leads straight to T2

that thing was cooking! it left tire tracks in the paint..awesome response on their part

driver of the medical is south african...he was fired in 2021 for refusal of taking the jab.

Like Jolyon said: to go through that force of impact, gather your senses and pull yourself out of a burning wreckage in 30 seconds is impressive.

Yes, and one of my favorites racers is Max, and one of the reasons I like him is because he has that strong personality of his, BUT having said, I disagree with his opinion about resuming race after a crash like that, minding you, he said that if he was “a team boss” and after something like that the driver refused to return to race he would tell the driver that then he’d never sit on that seat again. Nothing could be more Max than saying that type of thing. Specially because you know he means it, but what made me laugh hard at that statement is the fact that Max team boss would absolutely be like that, at the same time that Max as a driver would likely not be daunted by that crash, BUT if there ever is a crash that is horrible even with not a fatality obvious right then and there, and Max felt unsafe or willing to put himself to return to race himself that way to take a risk, he would absolutely, simply say NO! And not go and resume racing. Cause he is just that type of person it seems, he does what he wants, he doesn’t seem the type of racer who would do something that he himself thought he shouldn’t, but would do because a boss is telling him to. In my view that is the type of personality Max has, and that is why he is one of the leaders of F1, it’s not just his driving talent, and consequently results, but it’s the personality of a leader that F1 has in him working behind the steering wheel of a F1. Maybe it’s just me, but in this grid he is one of those (probably the most) that reminds me of F1 drivers in the past all the way up to Senna. It’s the whole package there, I never felt him to be my one favorite racer there any point, but I’ve always thought he is one racer that reminds me of the sport in the past all the way to the 80 ‘s.

@@MaRi-zp9zk Yeah because back then drivers would litteraly die in the race track and the race was rarely stopped, or stopped but then resumed shortly after, drivers back in the days had to have a strong millitary like personallity to get back in the car when a driver litteraly died minutes ago.

Ok karen

especially for kvyat, he's so worried that he double check his mirror.

Plus he's intellegent and articulate (with virtually no hyperbole) and knows what it's like to drive a modern F1 car. I'll vote for more JP.

I admit I was against the halo from an aesthetic point of view of how a F1 car should look. But this shows why it is there, so who cares how it looks. My original point of view was wrong.

Worked out this time. But had Grosjean's car flipped over, he wouldn't have been able to get out because of the halo.

@@WiseGuy02 not true

@@WiseGuy02 Look how Stroll flipped and how the halo allowed him to get out

I honestly think I have ptsd from just watching him struggling to get out.

@@rohitnautiyal7090 but watching this video, it is clear grosjean was at fault again Opening lap of the race you can't make such sharp moves knowing you are starting from midfield. Grosjean should take an year off to regroup and should join some other racing event.

You don't want to think about the scenario that the halo exit would have been blocked by the bented rail...

absolutely!

agree

1living dead girl is not my name... I have been hacked

You know the FIA has a team being assembled and they have every bit of wreckage and the wall and will have a 400+ page report in the next 6-12 months.

Watch the video above with his personal interview , very interesting.

Wow you're probably a horrible human being if you don't like safety features that could save a driver's life.

@@barobaro1 calm down

@@hugomeijer5973 ? what's up with the rise in snowflakes on the internet these days

@@DrDemolition there's no rise, just softer so they're easier to spot

Any sport is never “too safe”, its better to get new innovations than to see someone get injured. If you think a sport is getting “too safe” you clearly do not care about the safety of the athletes

If you watch closely you see the medic directing the Marshall where to squirt the extinguisher. They all deserve "props" to run towards an inferno with open Face helmets. It's not a competition on who was bravest, it was a team effort.

@@JohnyG29 exactly.

Brave, yes. Effective? Doubtful. Lucky? Absolutely!

Yes but next time run faster and remove the pin faster! It was an extra 5 seconds of fumbling around with the pin to get the fire extinguisher to actually start. And the other guy with the extinguisher on the opposite side, it barely did anything, it looked like just a tiny spray of water. Need more powerful extinguishers!

@@jeffploetner the guy on the other side had a water extinguisher that is in place to create a mist of water for self protection.... it's no extinguisher also NO! get there, then put it on the ground, then remove the pin, don't rush things, do them as trained,... imagine slipping on the track while running over, that costs even more time, quick and steady saves lives, not hasty and rushing

Yeah. I love his analysis just like I do like listen to brundle. Iam from germany and love the english broadcast. Also really like croft, he did out great in replacing a legend like murray

@@Ramnokri Wasser, Ebel und König machen es auch sehr schwer, die deutsche Übertragung gut zu finden.

@@kkl8268 "sehr schwer" ist noch ne untertreibungm vermisse die Kombi Schulz/surer

What a yoke

@@Ramnokri Schulz/Surer ist legendär.

Groan Romain Groan-on 😁

Not all marshalls. Not the one who was 20m away with his extinguisher.

@@DaveMcIroy What would you have done? Do you want to run toward a huge fire?

@@diamondgecko_7127, what does the 2nd sentence mean?

@@DaveMcIroy the one who ran across the track was a hero who sprayed the cockpit with the extinguisher to allow a safe passage for Romain

@@lightning4497 Yup, and that emergency car should also be equipped with fire suppression tank on roof...Idiots came out of car just watching fire like they are waiting for it to go out on its own.

I can't imagine what Grosjean need to go through. You just been subjected to a 50g. Your head must be blacked about even for a sec. And waking up from that you're suddenly inside a flame, not knowing where to go.. Must be pretty traumatising

Ye he said it felt much much longer than 30 seconds.

Grosjean said he felt it was much longer than 28 seconds, saw everything on fire and remembered about Nikki Lauda and his family and it was like death flashing upon him, and then he convinced himself that he must stay alive for his children and went out from the cockpit and barrier

He had two hallo s with him in this race

Yes, very moving to see that.

One would think that saying that would be tempting the universe....

One day, this comment will age horribly

This isn't funny.

@@rars0n I don't agree I think it's hilarious a few years after the fact. Of course not when it happened but come on it's a joke.

Where can I find it

@@toxicwolf2220 f1 unfiltered - the channel usually posts unheard radio messages and this time that includes all drivers' reactions to the red flag and grosjean's accident/wellbeing

Especially Charles was really shook

@@fazefake6498 My interpretation is that Charles thought he lost another friend. So soon after the loss of Anthonie.

@@alainacallahan5030 Charles was also extremely close to Jules Bianchi too right? I can’t imagine how the moments of not knowing felt for all of the drivers, for the most part they all seem to be friends so I couldn’t imagine

Just like Mugello

It starts and ends with Grosjean. "You don't expect a driver to go from the left all the way to the right that quickly". I'm glad Grosjean is ok but that incident was on his own.

@@pedrofernandes4050 its not like he did it on purpose, Kvyat was in his blind spot.

@@pedrofernandes4050 he couldnt see kyvat and tried to overtake the slow cars in front. its racing mate, not his fault

@@pedrofernandes4050 There is no one to blame here, it's a pure racing incident.

He was wondering why he cant get out but it was actually his shoe that got stuck in the pedals so he took it off and headed out

I have seen an interview by Grosjean about the crash, where he describes what he did and how he got out of the car. Basically the broken guard rail was above his head, and when he tried to get out of the car he was stuck inside, his helmet was hitting the guard rail. So he had to do some body cortotioning to squeeze himself between the halo and the guard rail to get out. Moreover, his shoe got stuck in the pedals area, so he had to stop his escape attempt and pull with his leg with all his strenght to free his foot from the shoe. What he managed to do after a 53g force crash is incredible. His escape is miracle, I'm so glad he made it out alive and with nothing but some minor injuries.

All the drivers are super super fit and strong. Incredible cardio endurance and strength to weight - now you know why

I think the biggest piece if luck is that he didn't go through the barrier just enough to have the intact piece over the cockpit holding him in! That ~1m would've made things very different.

@@csn583 a couple of mph difference could of been a much scarier ending, but let’s not think of the what ifs 😂

28 seconds*

Nah it was a lot more than that, closer to 27-28 seconds

@@csn583 I think his biggest piece of luck is that he didn't got knocked unconcious from the impact. If he would have been KO, it wouldn't have mattered how far the wreck pierced the barrier.

And no props to: The barrier construction The fuel cell / fuel line construction Both these things need to be addressed urgently moving forward.

@@JakeM218 the barrier looked cheap, which is more at fault of the track. If we look at similar crashes, the cars normally rebound off the barrier instead of piercing it. This is on the circuit itself

@@JakeM218 from what I’ve heard the barrier was constructed fine, just meant to absorb impact which it did which is why he cut through it, still hate guardrail, no need for it. As far as the fuel cell goes i think they use some form of rubber or even Kevlar? Not meant to tear or stress under impact but not much you can do when the entire car rips in half.

behind him? he was sat inside the fire and thats what gave him the adrenaline to get out the car himself

and they'll race again there this weekend

I think it is a safe bet to say that this scene will be in season 3 at some point.

I would say survive to drive

You should listen to his team radio. Made me sad for him.

Just my opinion but, no doubt it wouldn't have been pretty but alot of the time when 2 cars go off, they spin in tandem (like Botta and Ocon in Turkey) and if that happened in this case they may have both gone into the wall slower or both done 360s and tapped the wall or not even hit it. We will never know and hopefully never learn though

Yeah, and if the Halo was not on the car, i think it wpuld be much harder to explain what happened in this crash

If the halo wasn't on the car for this, it would certainly have made an appearance as early as next season and we wouldn't be talking about Grosjean being able to get out of the car

Agreed. Perhaps they should switch to a camera system.

@@Timberwolf69 A rear view displayed directly on the inside of the visor lol that would be futuristic and distracting i can imagine x)

Yeah only Charles seems to be really using them. Because he was one of the only drivers who realised the fire right as it happened and not on the other straight.

@@timbraska6750 and Vettel for noticing Leclerc on his inside at the restart

@@timbraska6750 Rear view mirrors are used a lot. What do you mean Charles is the only one using them? How do you think people defend?

Yeah it was pointed out that ARMCO barrier was resting on part of the halo I think

No. He went through the normal exit of the halo.

No

He cut the chicken .... He cut the chicken...

@@kkl8268 where...where is palmer?

Fernando... Palmer has retired

Karma

What a yoke. A yoke

Hes checklist and nothing else

I don't think we'll see him back in an F1 car.

But mainly because you don't have super rich parents. (I assume)

He's not thinking. Just reacts to the situation. Their brains are trained that way to the most extreme.

He said what went through his head in a Europe 1 interview. It's in French but it's on KZfaq

to be fair it did felt like forever watching it live. The fact that they won't show the replay is always a bad sign

There is gasoline all over the ground... he is doing the right thing securing his own ground first.