People are really "Snowflakes" Barcelona 2024 - Lando push Max on to the grass by half a car width because Max takes avoiding action.... Everybody says it's just hard racing !!!! Austria 2024 - Lando and Max touch briefly on track because Lando went for a gap that wasn't there after he couldn't make 3 previous torpedo's work ..... Everybody: MAX is such a dirty driver !!!! Lando's comment about Max not needing to race him because he has a 70 point lead is kind of dumb!!!! ... uhhhm Lando he races everybody that's why he has a 70 point lead !!!

Come on, dangerous 😂. I didn't hear you talk about Lewis who drove Max into the barrier in Silverstone at high speed. Forgot about that?

Alonso got the fastest lap in the closing laps.

This is Lando's 6th year in F1. Easy to forget Oscar was a rookie last year and what he's already accomplished against a teammate who's been at McLaren this whole time and already made it his own. Oscar's still learning tyre management and adapting to race pace. He's doing all this in a top team while Lando was able to do all this early in his career in a midfield team without the pressure. The fact people like you talk about Oscar as if he's a seasoned driver with a wealth of experience behind him is a testament to his maturity and level headedness so early in his career. Now, just imagine what Oscar's ability will be like once he's leveled up like the rest of the top drivers.

EVERYBODY WORLD WIDE LOVES these on track fights while on the other side some British race fans who claim to know everything better than the rest of the world, are crying over the rules being broken. Brits want ‘clean and fair’ racing with drivers that move out of the way to allow a clean DRS overtake. It’s ridiculous AND BORING AF !! And this Silverstone dude blaming Max for declining ticket sales. 😂 He should be thanking Max on his bare knees after this weekend. And as for the comments on Oscar… DUDE….HE JUST STARTED AT MCLAREN. He will give Lando a hard time in the near future I can promise you that.

Ultimately what do we want?....boring finishes with one driver 20sec ahead of 2nd place??, or two drivers fighting at the end for every last inch to get the win??. After they have some words and things cool off, they might back off a little bit at silverstone, but don't expect it to stay that way 😏

Lando could have used his steering wheel and simply veered a bit left and completely avoided contact. I remember Lando pushing Max on the grass in Barcelona at the start, no comment. Here we go usual British whining

It was a milder version of Hamilton v Verstappen Silverstone 2021, with less advantages results for Verstappen this time than Hamilton in 2021. And who is talking about Lando pushing Max in the grass at the Barcelona start. But yeah... the dominant British press in F1...

Marc Priestley's comment completely changed my worldview, and how I view max Verstappen and Lando Norris, and after discovering his profound filosofies I will now give away all my worldly goods and will travel around the world barefoot...

Dude, watch the analysis by Cameron and Peter Windsor. Your boy Lando Norris was overtaking like a rookie and Max wasn’t moving under breaking, he was exactly following the curve. Everyone every year every time takes that curve that way, it is supposed to be taken that way. Stewards are punishing to outcome and not to offense. That is erratic and purely wrong.

A bit harsh on piastri. He was unlucky not to win in Miami. He got a heavy penalty in Italy for blocking when the next race 3 drivers got away with it. He also got robbed of 3rd for qualifying due to a bs call. Why is nobody concerned that Perez can barely finish top 10 in the rbr. Piastri is still new to F1. Give him a chance.

Norris demonstrated that he is not capable of overtaking on track. The only thing I saw were very late, torpedo moves and mistakes after mistakes. He needed to cut all corners to keep up in his faster car at that stint. Verstappen defended like we know him and what you should expect from a World Champion. When they touched, it was obvious that Max would close the gap (just like Norris did to Max during the start of the race in Canada btw). I don't know what Norris was hoping to achieve going on the outside of corner 3, it had mission impossible written all over it. Look at how Leclerc overtook Verstappen there last year to get a tutorial of how to overtake. So really a lot of waffling and stirring that Verstappen was too aggressive etc, whilst the real story should be that Norris just doesn't have the competence to overtake, whilst driving a much faster car. And for all the British haters, the way Hamilton catapulted Vertappen at Cobbs in 2021 was the most aggressive thing I have seen since I am watching F1 (since 1994). Dear Elvis, I love your work as a mechanic at Wheeler Dealers. Maybe stick to the things you're really good at? ;-)

Peter Windsor seems to have less non-bias view of the situation?

Biased britt, Max didnt even stear to the left, see the onboard, Peter windsor said it right

The Piastri view is weird. Piastri was second two times in a row and would have won if not the penalty.

@f1Elvis: used to think you knew your stuff.. guess the union Jack over your head does affect judgement. McLaren surely protested Max's driving for allegedly moving under braking, no penalty means the stewards had evidence he didn't. Calling Lando going straight out of control a "little bit out of control" is marginalizing the fault. Had he hit Max he would have had 10s penalty for being out of control. Now Max misjudges the space on the outside by a couple of cm, they nudge tyres and all of a sudden it's a really dangerous move? Come on you can't be serious...

Max said he didn't move under braking. He said he brakes and then moves. That's an interesting perspective! The intent is moving in the braking zone, not whether or not your foot is in the brake.

Reminds me of Michael Schumacher tricks

I think that Piastri didn’t fall off at the end like he usually does, and made a late pass on Sainz which bodes well, but he has been clearly second fiddle to Norris. The media sucks though. Norris was a fair distance behind Carlos in his first two seasons in F1, and unlike him Carlos was new to the team. Everyone was singing Norris praises then already. I thought Oscar would have started his F1 career better, but he is getting better, and like Max had to get over his recklessness to become a top driver, Oscar is just managing his tires away from being on that level.

Yes, George definitely 'lucked out' but to quote a phrase once used by your old boss Ron Dennis - 'To finish first, First you have to finish'.

Johnny Herbert is such a nice peaceful man

Its called racing, Max is gonna change nothing. Norris need to look also to his own driving before the crash!

Meh, Max has always been a "rough" ,some would even say dirty, driver. I respect his stance, and that he is in it, to win it.

All the great champions I can remember have been ruthless and have incurred in this kind of questionable behavior Hamilton , Schumacher, Senna,

There is no rule on moving under breaking

The fact is that Lando went too far with his nose diving, exceeding track limits. Max had to avoid turning in, to avoid a collision. He crashed into Max from behind. Lando's fault.

9:28, Fernando got fastest lap

my god the brits may lack petrol but they sure as hell got a load of salt

Yes, how can you give your objective an honest comment when you are wearing a shirt of the England national team. And then your background at McLaren. In the fight between Max and Lando you see it a bit through English glasses.

Atleast things getting spicy again. Max complaining when someone races him elbows out. Let’s goo😂

I think it was max his fault but you can tell lando is very impatient and wants it too much almost desperate and ofcourse a lot less experienced, dive bombing his car all the time in that corner

I wanted to talk about what happened between Norris and Verstappen in the recent races. I understand there's a lot of tension around these incidents, especially with the media coverage. There are two main things that seem to be bothering all: Norris' driving: You feel his moves towards Verstappen, like pushing him to the grass in the last race and the dive bomb yesterday and today, were too aggressive and potentially dangerous. Penalty and bias: You believe the FIA took too long with the penalty for Norris, and there's a bias towards British drivers? It would be great to chat about these points: Reviewing the incidents: We could look at replays and discuss the maneuvers from a racing perspective. Were they within the rules, or were they overly aggressive? Penalty details: Maybe we can discuss on why Norris didn't serve the 5 second penalty? Which means does he have to serve the pentaly in next race or British media or fans will say it's ok, we can ignore this one. Media coverage: Let's talk about how media portrays these situations. Do you think there's a national bias, or is it more about the specific incidents?

impeccable driving from Norris == Leaving the track 4x Lo0oL

Oscar very unlucky not to get a lucky win. Sounds odd? Well the qualifying penalty was harsh. The lap 1 skirmish with Leclerc then Perez that went on, Perez lucky not to get penalty. Some classy moves, kept his tyres alive despite the dirty air. Not equal to Lando but plenty to say that his position didn't show how good his performance actually was.

If you use your brain, it is simple. It’s motoracing. If you can put someone on the grass, you should take it like a man, or a boy in lando’s case, you must avoid a collision with two tires on the grass, or curb.

*Impatience & poor decision making from Lando sending it around the outside* Go back & watch Max vs Sainz Lap 26 of Austria 2023. Sainz moves under braking, Max backs off, puts his wheel 'off track' Uses DRS to pass on the next straight for a clean overtake.

Obviously the answer is YES. He received a penalty from the stewards. The question is "was a penalty sufficient and how do we stop a driver acting in such a way in future".

I agree, we now have some actual competitive racing happening from top to bottom in the points positions. Norris was definitely out of bounds on his dive bomb move, but I believe that it was a result of his frustration over Verstappen's previous moves under braking and double moves. Stock up on the popcorn....the British Grand Prix is going to be a barn burner.

Beautiful background!! Nature and F1 chat…. Doesn’t get better!

Marc, outstanding review 👍😉

Genuine question: Does anyone know if the Dutch pundits have automatic Max bias? I see valid comments of British bias, and it exists, but I’m curious if a direct people like the Dutch take Max’s side by default?

Last week after putting Max three feet onto the grass: "Plenty of space" - Lando Norris

Honestly this is nothing new in F1..... it was inevitable. Max hasn't been challenged like this since he won his first title. And back then it was just like this with him and Hamilton. Regardless of how much he's matured, deep down he's still max who does not want to be passed by anyone. Friends or not Lando has his number, and it's going to get ugly. He was certainly being very aggressive diving in at the last second, but who hasn't done that?. I might put a little more blame in Max, but Lando can carry at least some responsibility for it.

Max claimed he was NOT steering under braking. I had moved my steering wheel and then braked. Or I had released the brakes and THEN moved my steering wheel. In that interview he said: “Only I know when l’m braking” If you have put your steering wheel in a different position and then apply the brakes, you still are moving in a different direction. Maybe the rule 'No moving during braking in the corners' should be better defined...

This race sums up why, as an American , I just can't get into, or take F1 seriously. First and foremost, I've never seen a racing sport, other then F1 where they can't figure out giving penalties till hours after the race sometimes. Lando actually ended up with a 5 second penalty, which had that been enforced emedietly, Lando wouldn't even been close enough to pass in the first place. Also, this stupid rule F1 has about a car in the lead and on the inside, must give a car trying to pass enough room........what??? That's against the very essence of auto racing. In American racing, if your behind a car, and you want their position that they earned and is rightfully theirs, then you've got to earn that position the hard way. A car in the lead has every right to that lead and shouldn't have to do anything to help the car behind get by. And another stupid rule is the one of making defensive moves under breaking. Does F1 want more fighting or just more passing, and why do these cars still have DRS? These drivers and new cars have proven over and over again that the new cars can pass with traditional slip stream. DRS has made drivers lazy, and is hiding some drivers lack of talent. If anything from this whole event was dangerous, then in my personal opinion, it was the crazy speed differential that Lando had from DRS as Max was about to turn in and came dive boming in like gang busters. It's not realistic, talented passing, it's a lazy button you push to get a crazy speed differential and takes zero talent. And boy are F1 drivers soft and sensitive, and babyfied. In America, when it comes to racing, we have a saying...."Rubbing Is Racing!

There is a reason why Max is at 61 GP victories: elbows out and, if necessary, knives out. Schumacher and Senna were no different.

Are some confusing the “braking zone” with actual braking…. Seems max did in interview saying “only i know when l’m braking”. (Apart from the telematics of course) but the rule is no moving in the braking zone….NOT no moving when you’re braking. Moving when you’re braking doesn’t affect others as much as moving when others are braking is dangerous. Total difference. He was in the braking zone and moved - broke the “verstappen” rule remember the rule created because Max does this.

Marc why can't i use seedstream is it my phone being a 2017 Samsung. I have the latest Android update but still not compatible. Cheers Dave

Max was questionable on some of the braking but in the contact incident he slightly moved left but I disagree with you saying he didn’t leave a cars width. If you look at the replay there was actually a lot of space still left for Lando. That’s my opinion anyway as a Ferrari fan I haven’t any bias on this just pain for Charles and relief Sainz got a podium hope Ferrari can improve

Oscar has only had 33 races and was screwed over in qualifying, so lay off Oscar 🤡

quick question please Marc. As you say Merc are on a pathway to unlocking the potential of their cars, but, do they have sufficient budget remaining to actually explore it? Is there any way to know that? How much (% of budget) will they have already spent to get to where they are now?

Please stop it. Please take a look a at the race without being biased. Lando and Max were both mega aggresive. Looking at the telematry Max did not move while braking. My respect for Lando dropped a lot for not being reflective on his own performance. Both were at fault. Let's not point fingers.

Not to mention that RedBull, in Max's case at least, have used their allotted engine assignment for the year. Such incidents surely only lead to the potential that this will be breached. If not that, that a gearbox will be wasted through excess lateral forces being applied to it. Not sure how far they're through their gearbox allocation to be fair though.

Love the scenery.

To be fair, I initially though it was 100% on Max, but I've seen a post on twitter where someone put it side by side with an onboard from some previous Austrian GP where Max comes up on the outside of Leclerc and Leclerc is moving left in the same way as Max and leaves a very similar amount of room. But Max in that instance moves left a bit further onto the kerb himself to avoid contact and then does the classic switchback coming out of the corner. So effectively Lando could have moved over a bit more to avoid the contact as well, so I'm leaning more towards an unfortunate racing incident now.

Enjoying your opinions. I especially enjoy your commentary on the BBC. This weekend with Ben Edwards was terrific, with your combined knowledge and expertise. More please.

I am glad this is just your opinion its not mine so enjoy the rest of the season and let's see who comes out on top

Oscar's face after the race was one big realization of 'What If' coming in like a sledge hammer. He learned something big that will awaken his hunger.

Agreed 100% with your analysis!

Max doesnt back down. The driver on the grid should know that.

The one where max went off track wasn't really a big thing though cause lando gave position back straight away.

Marc this was a great review 👍

Seems like max can handle things when redpoll can give him a car that can stay out far enough ahead but when it comes to close battles he jst can't deal with that.

Look, Ive been fan of you for years and know you have a soft spot for Mclaren, but I think you should have taken a step back and calmed down before posting. There is NO rule about moving under braking. The rule you are talking about got removed 3 GPs later after it was introduced (funnily enough, only driver who got penalized for it was Seb, not Max). As with everything in F1, all we have at this point are very ambiguous and grey area rules which state that dangerous, erratic etc. moves can be reported to stewards. You need to step back and calmly rewatch the "incident." I think Peter Windsor covered it well. Max did not move under breaking, there was pretty much no steering wheel input. The corner itself naturally curves to the left a bit. Secondly, it was fairly standard incident, drivers squeeze eachother and move under braking ALL THE TIME. Hell, we have multiple examples of the exact corner with Max & Sainz, Lewis & Seb which were both much worse. Did Max technically deserve penalty? Yes. But the incident itself wasnt bad at all, it just had a huge consequence. I am 100% confident that if they didnt get punctures, this wouldnt have resulted in penalty. It was good close racing, they were both pushing the limit. Landos divebombs were the type that Max got crucified for in 2021. The response and collective meltdown from mainly British fans is insane. Just a week ago we had Leclerc & Stroll both cause collisions out of spite. Lando himself pushed Max to the grass which was 10 times more dangerous than any move this weekend, yet people laughed it off. I really hope this is a one off video and I dont have to unsubscribe from a channel that Ive otherwise enjoyed for years.

The F2 cars had 17 inch wheels before F1 did & they seemed to be way more susceptible to impact punctures!

Yes!✅💯

acting as if this litte bump was as bad as hamilton and max in silverstone , or when max parked his car ontop of, almost decapitating lewis in monza... so many rules on what and how as if drivers are computers to be programmed..

Priestly off the mark (pun intended).. you can see on landos onboard that he clearly has space. and hes wiggling the steering wheel in that braking phase to modulate the room he has to verstappen to which his car responds ..so he has room to the outside if he steps on the kerb a slight bit more and max isnt closing the door violently, landos just fails to respond properly/ he in fact tries to make it as close as possible himself. also what is he actually doing there divebombing the outside.. running alongside is risky. Lando once bumped perez off similarly in austria and said it was perez his own fault for being there. and coming in hot like that and being full alongside he cant do the cutback anymore either.

These rules were brought in for a reason and the stewards should get their act together and enforce it as Max is doing this way to often when he’s got to fight to win.

Good to see ya bud, still walking that field. Nice to see the doggies again as well.

Whaaw.. this is a big UK driver's promotion video.. half of the point ar just half sided punching points before even real data.. Nothing bad to say about de driver's themselves though. 😢

Thank you for your knowledgeable, balanced report. Very refreshing 🌞

We need the battles! Racing! Too many years of drivers just driving off into the distance. Oh, the years of Schumacher & Mansell or Senna & Prost. The 60’s!

Max’s steering wheel was straight during the braking zone. The circuit bends slightly to the right at the end of the straight.

Your commentary is excellent! Thank you for that and this! ❤

You’re the first person to address what I thought was the most dangerous part. Max trying to push Lando off the track while on 3 wheels. That could have killed someone. He no longer has a car that’s a second a lap or more faster than everyone and now he’s reverted right back to being the proverbial bull in a China shop. He’s a fast driver. But he’s also a dangerous driver when he’s actually under pressure. And he always has been.

Like you I felt disappointed by Max more than anything. Over the last couple of years I'd really grown to admire his composure and skill, I was never going to be a gushing fan boy but credit where credit's due. Sadly, under pressure, real pressure, not just a one race blip or misfortune every one of his 2021 bad traits came out to play. Of course he went off track as Lando "forced him wide" It's his old trick of don't brake because you know the guy on the inside is going to block pass then claim you were along side and he pushed you off. The smart play is brake for the DRS line, then take the tight line and repass in 4, many others did that this race. On the collision lap he doesn't show much steering input so he can claim he didn't move, but he knows full well if Lando isn't on his inside he's on the outside and his trajectory was perfect to just close that door while looking in the inside mirror for SMIDSY bonus points. The move on the run to 4 after that was inexcusable, 3 wheels on his wagon he might have but he had more than enough control to get the rest of the way round the lap ok. That was Suchmacher Adelaide 94. On Lando's penalty, he got that for going off at turn 3 and exceeding his allowance, when Max pushed him wide and he gave the place back. . . you get penalties for being pushed wide now.

Moving in the breaking zone? There are a a lot of other experts who disagree, obviously the stewards disagree. Let's agree that we have seen great racing from two great race drivers. Bring on the rest of the season!

Max blocking Lando with no offside tyre - reminded me of days of thunder Movie when the two are racing the wheelchairs after the big accident not being able to let it go. F1 is back baby 🏁🛠️

You prob won't see this but also look back at previous race starts you'll see max never lines his car straight he always has it at an angle and has been doing it for years

No data indeed. Just insinuations in your vid. Few facts though. Max moved slightly. There was however more than enough space for Lando, he just didn't use it. He probably didn't want to move after his failed dive-bomb the previous lap. Both at fault I think. Racing incident at most.

Hey Marc, So Yuki got a fine of 40K for using the R-word. Apart from the fact that others have used it (Verstappen among others, even used the M-word (that sounds like the Mongolian nationality) which in the South of the Netherlands and Belgium is a normal swear word) with no repucussions at all, Yuki only started to learn to actually speak English some years ago when he started in F3. Before that, he only knew English from school. So I have two related questions. - Don't you think the 40k fine was too harsh, especially for someone who's first language hardly uses any swear words and thus for whom it's easy to mistakes around the use of these words? - Also, is the F1 paddock the right place to learn to speak properly? I mean, since he's based in Italy with his team and also lives there, he speaks Italian in his private surroundings apart from Japanese. So the paddock is all that remains...

One thing that I slightly disagree is with the statement that Max didn't leave a room for Lando. Technically, yes, he didn't leave a car width, so does Lando at the start of the previous race. What I'm saying is that 99.99% of the time, if you don't leave room for a full car width but still give enough room for the other car to be classified as being inside the track, the stewards will just ignore it, thus Max didn't really do anything that hasn't been done by basically almost everyone, even Lando himself. As for pushing Lando after the collision, like you've said, you don't know exactly what is happening but still persisted with the fact that Max being petulant. So basically you ignored everything about what you said about being out of control and lean heavily on Max doing bad things. This is low. The issue is not about leaving enough room or Max being "questionably" petulant, but moving under braking and you should focus on that instead of trying to piling up problems. There were already several occasions even after regulation being set about moving under braking that drivers didn't get penalized for that. This is the main issue. I don't like seeing driver moving under braking, but at the same time they never really penalize anyone that did it. At best, they gave a warning first. So if the stewards doesn't want to penalize those moves then it will keep happening and this time we see a high profile collision because of it. And remember that the penalty that being given to Max was not because of moving under braking but for causing a collision, which again highlights stewarding problem that something bad need to happen before penalty is given. Also that last race highlighted another ongoing problem which was penalty decision didn't come fast enough. While it is a lot better than in previous seasons, but it is still too slow, especially for something that should be obvious. Like Lando track limit violation, which the last one was super obvious but they only call it after the collision, which is useless. I'm using Lando as an example because it is high profile, but there are plenty of others that I think can be called faster, like Lewis crossing the pit lane white line on entry or Perez speeding. It is something that can be quickly called but still needed few laps to get the decision. This kind of thing definitely can affect the race (not always, but in a tight battle, definitely). In the end, it was 100% Max's fault. He got 10s. It is fair. It is much less worse than when Lewis punted Max. Max simply got lucky that he managed to still continue while Lando was unlucky that the puncture ended up the way it was, thus shredded a lot of his car. It is probably not the team that need to straighten Max but FIA where they need to enforce moving under braking more seriously because otherwise it is a fair game, which again, I don't like seeing it but it is what it is.

How is it dangerous for Verstappen to brake if Lando is alongside him? Lando is braking later, and there's plenty of room on the left and in front of him. What is Lando's game plan for being so close, so late? Where does he want to go? If Verstappen had to turn into the corner, he would be turning while braking. Their rear wheels made contact; Lando was beside him, not behind him. I don't get it. There was a lot of track available. And if you want to overtake, shouldn't you avoid the car in front of you?

Oscar is a bit less experienced, but he did beat Lando in the sprint. Oscar will come along soon.

Against British drivers, there is no amount of PR that will ever redeem RBR or Max in the eyes of the hugely biased British dominated F1 press and pundits. That includes you @elvis. It’s a lost cause.

well said marc on another note if you go back and watch the race again and listen to max's engine rpm on any of the drs straights and then listen to the 2 RB cash app cars the rpm's are not the same max's engine sounds like it revs higher i though manufacturers and those who buy engines are supposed to get the same since RB cash app buy engines and gearboxes you think on a drs you are going full throttle that they would sound the same i just found it odd that 2 teams with the same power plant 1 teams engine sounds higher in the rpm than the other and it is quite noticeable cheers glenn

I thought max was clearly a dangerous. Even the one where lando locked up Max turned slightly into landos line and lando had to also adjust slightly. He may have locked up anyway but max certainly knew he was making it harder for lando. I remember max doing this to Ricciardo when they were teammates several times and then again in his battles with Lewis. Max is a very dangerous driver.

reminds me of schumacher's early days at benetton

Gotta turn your wheel first to be even considered it moving under braking. I dont think max did i was listening to what he says and it creates a greg area because as long as its not a sudden move while both braking then the car is held line. If it held line then nothin is wrong.rqcing inccidnent then.

Max gained even more points for the standings. Simply lovely.

I wonder if Diaper Don will be at Silverstone in order to support Norris 😎

Personally I think all these kirbs sausage and alike should be got rid of make track wider white line on the edge if you cross that white line you lose your place to the car behind regardless how far back they are the track is the track it's not a dual cross country off road race aswell Also the cars need to be made much shorter and narrower and revert back to the smaller tyer rim set up

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The main issue was the second part of this incident. Max purposely pushed Lando off the track after the initial collision. That for me was completely out of order and dangerous. Max should definitely be punished for this particular part of what happened.

Verstappen has shown in 2021 that he will try and stop someone who he sees as a competitor for the championship, getting past him by almost any means. As McLaren have rightly said we are now living with the results of the stewards being far too lenient with him in the past (often when racing with Hamilton). We have not seen this in the last couple of years as he has had no real competitors to be concerned about. It will be interesting to see how it develops.

British biased…🥴 what a winers …the British media. Blind spot for Lando’s dirty driving. Btw…I don’t believe Lando is a real friend of Max. He always talks bad about Max in various interviews. He is also getting arrogant since Miami.

Liberty Media will be loving this rivalry between Max and Lando. They will be hoping this rivalry spreads to the team bosses so Drive to Survive can capitalise and turn F1 into the hottest golden ticket on planet earth.

I enjoy the scenery on these videos

Who won last years Silverstone Sprint race?