🎤 F2 Lavalier Shoot Out and Mic Comparison // BLIND listen!
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3 жыл бұрынKaleb blind listens to 6 lavalier microphones recorded to the Zoom F2 recorder. Is it worth the money to upgrade the lavalier mic?
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@KEJProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Did you hear a difference? What lavelier mics do you prefer?
@charlesn Жыл бұрын
Hugely helpful, thanks guys!
@hoodaffairstv 3 жыл бұрын
rode for run and gun would be great and the cos11 or 4061 for professional gigs. i do wish you had the deity w-lav pro or micro in there. I'm looking to get a f2 and was interested in those deity w lavs
@TamarackFilmCo 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! I did like the #4, especially as a solid budget option. I would be very interested in a comparison between the Rodelink Lav vs the Rode Lavalier Go (because it comes in white, as well & is a touch cheaper), especially now that Rode has released the Wireless Go II.
@zolwikwkurwik 2 жыл бұрын
I think F2 mic got smashed here because for some reason it is so much louder by comparison and ears hurts when you go from other mics. Normalize option is not the best way get them the same percieved volume. For me F2 mic was better than many just not set right. Btw I don't have any of these mic but I would like to see what post processing could do to them, espescially the F2 kit mic.
@ladmandiola8868 Жыл бұрын
This was the video I was looking for. Thank you for doing this review. I was thinking in the end you'd more than likely pick the DPA 4061. I was testing the Zoom F2-BT vs the F3 (with the RODE VXLR Pro XLR to 3.5mm voltage adapter), and even though the F3 came in louder, it picked up more background noise than I was desiring. Although I like the RODELink Lav, for some reason compared to the ZOOM LMF-2, I liked how my recordings were coming through with the LMF-2 better. But it still sounds a bit off. So I was thinking that getting a better Lav mic would solve the issue. Of course I was looking at the DPA 4061 and now realize after watching your vid, that's what I'm going to purchase. Even with my more baritone sounding voice that I have, I still think the DPA 4061 would be the better choice. I'm hoping for a richer sounding Lav mic and hope this will work for my needs. Again, thank you for doing this video! By the way where is that link for the Free Master Bus Compression preset. I tried to click the link and it's not available anymore. Would like to try it. Let me know if you can send that to me, again, thanks. 🙂
@McTolix Жыл бұрын
Hah, this is just very informative and entertaining :) Came across this video searching for how MKE 2 performs with F2. Specs of the mic states that its operating voltage is 7,5 V, but Zoom F2 can provide only 2,5. Do you have any comment on that?
@chrisquigley 3 жыл бұрын
This was so much fun. I was trying to find information comparing the Zoom F2 lav with the Tascam DR-10l lav. Comparing these two with the higher end lavs really helped. I'm a beginner. I had heard about Countryman and Sennheiser, but seeing them all compared helped me put these mics in perspective. Then, to find out that the Rode Wireless Lav compared favorably with the higher priced lavs....well. Your "Videographer's Guide To The Zoom F2" was so interesting. I liked your banter. It brought me here.
@KEJProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Chris! I’m glad it was useful for you.
@theDanDeleon 3 жыл бұрын
The DPA 4061 was my favorite. Looks like you get what you pay for. Number 2 through number 7 were not good at all, except number 4. Glad to see that number 4 is reasonably priced at 99 bucks too. Great video and comparison!
@buggzo Жыл бұрын
Great video
@NatePuhr 3 жыл бұрын
Best Lav video I've seen. You nailed this. I use the Sanken and I've always thought it was lacking in the low ends and this confirms it from someone who knows what their talking about. I've actually just eyeing that 4061.... just don't know if brides will notice the $425 difference lol.
@KEJProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nate! Yeah that 4061 is a beast, but I hear you, I’m not thinking the couple will notice the difference. I do believe that it would help pop any vocal out of the mix naturally tho 🙌🏽
@TimothyDowd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm buying the F2 but plan to upgrade the lav eventually. Is the DPA an investment, is there a second hand market?
@BBQCrasher 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Was going to purchase the F2 for the 32 bit float and try to record using different 3.5mm shotgun mics. Any thoughts or opinions. Was wondering if the f2 truly has a low or no self noise to pull it off.
@awangazley 2 жыл бұрын
Sir can I ask when you test the Rode Rodelink Lav Mic is it connected with Zoom F2 recorder or Rodelink Wireless System?
@wangmediaweddings 7 ай бұрын
Great video, confirms my experience. I use a mix of DPA4060, Sanken Cos11 and Countryman B6. The B6 is used the most for the bride since it is so tiny and I have it in beige. I use the Sanken on the officiant and the groom because I think it cuts through clothes very well. The DPA sounds the best but more neutral and is bigger than the Cos11. Use this on the singer if there is a performance during ceremony. I have the old cable for the DPAs so that is also why I prefer the Cos11 since the have cables that are easier to handle. If you take sound serious you should invest in quality lavaliers, reduces the time spent on EQ in post. And still a fraction of the cost of a new lens. Even if the couple don't know the difference they can experience that the sound is really good.
@TacBlades 9 ай бұрын
I think this would be a great test to do outdoors with background noise and wind.
@danielISTPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Rode Lav Mic sound great, considering the price and being the second one mic with best audio performance, for me, could be a good combo with the zoom F2, great videos.
@morningcoffee1111 3 жыл бұрын
What did you use to connect the dpa 4061? Great comparisons. Thanks!
@bvzi3602 Жыл бұрын
this is a great video.
@4CardsMan Жыл бұрын
The high-end mikes require 48V phantom power, right? How did you handle that?
@georgspandl767 2 жыл бұрын
Great like always! I just got a Zoom F2 bt and tested it with a Sennheiser MKE2 and and a Sennheiser ME2 . The issue I have is that the sensitivity on these mics seems to be so low that I can not see any levels using the control app. In addition I don‘t get any usable output on the line out so I can not use it together with a Rode wireless go for sendung a signal to my camera. In FCPX I have to use 3 gain layers to get the signal to a normal level. Is that normal or do I have a faulty unit? Thank you for your reply and geatings from Austria!
@ChessTurner Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon, thank you very much for your comment. I also want to buy Zoom F2 and Sennheiser MKE2. Please tell me, did you manage to adjust the sound with this lavalier microphone?
@ChessTurner Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon, please tell me, have you connected microphones to the Zoom F2 recorder without voltage supply amplifiers for microphone capacitors? In the Zoom F2 recorder, the voltage that is applied to the microphone is 2.5 volts. In your test, some microphones have 7.5 volts and even +48 volts. Please tell me, did you connect only directly, directly to the recorder?
@NT_SI Жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you for the video. very clear. I use zoom f2 and enjoy working with it. but I want to buy a more expensive microphone. but the problem is that the power supply of the zoom f2 microphone is 2.5V. many microphones from reviews are 5V, sanken cos 11d from 3 to 10V. Would you recommend using a good microphone with the zoom f2 recorder.?
@KEJProductions Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We actually just upgraded our lavaliere mic to the Sanken COS 11d and absolutely love it. It sounds very natural and has great body to it. In post you’ll just have to adjust levels accordingly but it’s very straight forward because of the abilities of the F2 recording file.
@NT_SI Жыл бұрын
@@KEJProductions Thanks a lot. Do I understand correctly that the lack of voltage (zoom f2 - 2.5V, sanken - min 3V) is compensated by post-processing?
@The_GreenMachine Жыл бұрын
about to buy the DR-10L to replace my F2 kit mic. what in post would you say is good to do to bring some life to the DR-10L? im not huge in audio but i know i HATE the F2 stock mic..
@user-jh8hb9ex1j Ай бұрын
Why u hate mic of f2??????😮
@ladmandiola8868 Жыл бұрын
I had another question, when using the DPA 4061 what type of end connector do you have for the 4061 and what type of 3.5mm adapter did you use? I'm asking because I just purchased the DPA 4061 for $225 on eBay and it already comes with a LEMO 3 Pin connector. I can get a LEMO 3 Pin to 3.5mm male adapter, so I can plug it into the F2-BT unit. But I just spoke to a rep at DPA who told me that you need to have 48V enabled using these high end mics. Is that true? If it is, was there another type of 48V adapter box that used? If not let me know that too. Thank you.
@orjanjhmagnusson Ай бұрын
Maybe he just said phantom power, meaning “lavaliere phantom power” = 5V PlugInPower (PiP) (OR was he talking about using XLR 48V to 3,5mm 5V adapter in a mixer) Really expensive wireless transmitters (often Lemo) have up to 5V PiP and sometimes 48V for boom. Zoom F2 have 2,5V PiP. Sennheiser G2,G3,G3 iew300-series have 3V PIP ? Sennheiser G2,G3,G3 iew500-series have … does anyone know ? (+LineInput ?, +HeadphoneOutput ?) Deity Theos PlugOn XLR transmitter is said to have 3V/5V PiP, 48V PhantomPower or LineInput.
@sdaservicetv Жыл бұрын
I just came across your channel as i was looking for reviews for the zoom f2. This is the second video I've looked at for the morning. I really like your content. Do you have any video showing what your typical mic setup and signal chain is as in what audio gear you use? . Ive recently sold my H5 looking for something else.. I have a couple Rodelink Wireless lavs but I now need another recorder. I've been wondering if I could get by with two f2's or maybe one f3. I'm partial to more channels on a recorder but my pocket may not bee so willing. Great content so far. Thanks
@KEJProductions Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Here’s a link to our kit. We recently updated to the Tascam X8 and really like. kit.co/KEJProductions/audio-recorders-mics
@sdaservicetv Жыл бұрын
@@KEJProductions Thanks
@MaskedMarble Жыл бұрын
I don't have your ear for sound. This video could benefit from a wrapup that ranks them from best to worst in your professional opinion. Also, can someone explain the term "kit mic" to me? Sorry, newbie here not familiar with the lingo.
@ExploreTravelTV 3 жыл бұрын
wow, great comparison, for me most all the high end sounds the same, including the Rode sounded decent. the included kit ones did suck. I couldn't afford any of the higher ones :-(
@KEJProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We were shocked by the Rode mic's fidelity! You can definitely hear why the expensive ones are expensive.
@Ni3K 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the test. Is the Rodelink Wireless, the mic which comes with the Rodelink Filmmaker Kit or is it the Rode Wireless Go mic?
@KEJProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It’s from the Rodelink Wirless
@Ni3K 2 жыл бұрын
@@KEJProductions I can not find any product, which is called Rodelink Wireless, only Rodelink Filmmaker Kit or Rode Wireless Go?
@YoungBlaze 3 жыл бұрын
will you guys be reviewing the RODE WIRELESS GO II , would love to see a review on this, and also how would it work to have up to 3 or 4 people to talking at once at a wedding , like the priest, the bride, Groom, and maybe a .....person giving a speech or something
@KEJProductions 3 жыл бұрын
If it's sent to us, for sure! It's probably not a recorder we would add to our kit however because of some not so great experiences we've had with the original Rode GO. We are fans of Rode products however.
@YoungBlaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@KEJProductions really? From What i see they ugraded it super major with on board recording 32bit float export, and the app, but totally understand, i just subbed
@Waloshinblog 3 жыл бұрын
Which lav mic is the rodelink wireless?
@VidVayder 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to find out too. I found this which might possibly be the one, as the price and name does match up: amzn.to/39NogQb
@aristotle_4532 Жыл бұрын
I stopped the video when I heard the environment used to test the microphones.
@maartenvandenbosch6210 Жыл бұрын
Why did you? Was it too much a real world situation?
@aristotle_4532 Жыл бұрын
@@maartenvandenbosch6210 This environment hides the noise level, the most important parameter of a lavalier, and is extremely untypical. I have recorded in all environments and I have never had such bad noise levels.
@aristotle_4532 Жыл бұрын
@@maartenvandenbosch6210 Also, lavaliers are extremely precise omnidirectionals, so there is no difference in how they get environmental noise. If testing that was the goal, it shows ignorance on the subject.
@taimur_org 5 ай бұрын
@@aristotle_4532 I would recommend a dark ribbon microphone for the talent's voice.
@joeknockane8831 Жыл бұрын
Too neurotic.
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