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FACEBOOK COLLECTION DEAL are these T206's FAKE? (EP 27)
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Жыл бұрынIn today's episode we travel to central Texas to visit a Facebook Collection...and we get surprised by a lot of FAKE (and TRIMMED) VINTAGE!
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@DansVintageBaseballPC Жыл бұрын
A lot of current collectors don't know this, but the binder sleeves they sold us back in the late 70's/early 80's left a sheen on the cards if they were in the plastic sleeves too long. When I pulled my cards from that era out of storage around 2003 or so, several cards looked like they were shining, including a 1969 Mantle. Years later, I bought a T206 McGraw Portrait from the binder of an older dealer at the Philly show in 2020, and subbed it to SGC. SGC didn't say it was fake, but they also wouldn't grade it and refunded me the grading fee. This year, 3 years free from the sheen of the binder sleeve, the card no longer had that shine and was subbed to CSG and graded this time. I think maybe those T206 cards should have received a second look from an experienced expert. There are issues like the brownish color of the name and team, and the dots in the printing that were not discussed on this episode that would have provided a more complete analysis of the authenticity of those cards.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Yup
@whitesoxfancardcollector Жыл бұрын
This was a good episode to help people become educated of fakes, trimming, and screw down problems. Well done.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@billcinnamond1391 Жыл бұрын
A couple of observations. You should be using a loupe to look at t-206's when in doubt. Smell isn't a 100% tell all on card age. Vintage cards in the east/south smell different than West Coast because of the humidity. There are 1000's of vintage cards that were in ice bricks including the SGC 9.5 1952 Mantle that grade fine. Lastly, the paper stock on 68 Topps is different than the 78 topps. Best way is to get digital calipers. Without seeing the rest of the cards, offer looks super low ball, but $3500 no way. I'd make profit on $1500 all day.
@zachpierce641 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they had doubt though. A lot of those looked off just on the video when he started pointing them out. He put his hands on them and knew the card stock was wrong
@billcinnamond1391 Жыл бұрын
@@zachpierce641 100% fake. For those new to the hobby the best method to view is a 10X jewelers loop or your magnifying glass on your iPhone. Surprised there wasn't an Eddie Plank, Joy Doyle, or Sherry Magie error in the lot.
@zachpierce641 Жыл бұрын
@@billcinnamond1391 Yeah they’re fake? He knew that . If the card stock is wrong you don’t need a loop
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ok
@Scatter23 Жыл бұрын
I’m learning so much from you guys! Anything prior to the 80’s. So many good tips! Please do more
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that! Thanks for tuning in for the ride!
@sarah6478 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see your being objective and not just buying to make a video for KZfaq. I’ll watch whether you buy or don’t, as long as I can see the cards.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
Also, I think those T206 are real lol.
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
Change that to I am 100% certain the Joss and the few still shots of the other t206 shown were real.
@NBAforlife8 Жыл бұрын
I do wish they would've shown the gloss on the cards up close - would've been nice to see it. I have a bit over 200 t206s myself and I couldn't tell they were fakes either, they do look legit.
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
@@NBAforlife8, yeah, I have around 1,000 T206 in my collection, have handled many more than that. From the video, especially the closeups, I did not see any indication that the tea staining method was used like Mike said, as the crackling was not there and the color was 100% correct on the fronts as well as the brownish nameplate color. They were real.
@GFTCNJ Жыл бұрын
Buy them
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
@@GFTCNJ , thanks, but I’ve already got a complete T206 520 card set. Always looking for tough back combos tho, do you have any FS? Broad Leaf, Drum, etc.
@markthompson7503 Жыл бұрын
Fake cards are out there....and usually the seller gets offended that is why it was cool to see his demeanor stay chill. Fake cards and trimmed cards aside, still some very nice cards.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Yes he genuinely didn’t know they were fake.
@raykrouse136 Жыл бұрын
I was helping a friend sort his cards to grade and he had several in the screw downs. You are correct that PSA rejected them as altered, however, SGC is much more forgiving and I think they graded almost all of them.
@unblinddotnet Жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@thegrifter4741 Жыл бұрын
I think if you take them out and put them in a cigar box/humidor for a while it helps “restore it” without messing with it at all.
@ClementeCollector Жыл бұрын
Great episode guys! Love the HR Derby cards!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Yeah so cool!
@dougstewart5020 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode. Lmao watching Mike sniff the cards made my memorial weekend.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@officialghetty Жыл бұрын
Cal Ripken prices are dirt cheap. No respect for iron man !!! That 83 in the screw down is like $20. Should be $200
@Chipper_slabs Жыл бұрын
It isn’t the player, it’s the number of cards produced. Chipper rookies cost a buck, because they printed millions of them.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jaefiveable Жыл бұрын
“Click the light button three times if you don't,” that has to be an instant classic!!!!!!!!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ha
@cardboardandplastic9267 Жыл бұрын
The irony here is that he said, "I am not a big fan of the card grading racket" as they were informing him he had fake cards. :)
@crazykev6491 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and why he didn’t want to be on camera.
@brentwalker5726 Жыл бұрын
@@crazykev6491 thats what I was thinking!
@FelixGonzalezM Жыл бұрын
@@crazykev6491 he could be moving to Mex to be a missionary and that would be a reason why he would not want to be on camera
@crazykev6491 Жыл бұрын
@@FelixGonzalezM true
@billkhan3789 Жыл бұрын
You can still not be a fan of it, regardless of the benefits in some cases. PSA has collectors by the throat. Horrible customer service, but they know they have a cult-like following in the hobby and can get away with it.
@zachpierce641 Жыл бұрын
I’m a full time phone flipper. It’s so frustrating when you get there and the product isn’t in the condition you thought and the seller plays the “ I’ve been offered more” card . Yes because those people haven’t been here and inspected the product to realize it’s not in as good of shape as advertised to me and everyone else
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
So true Zach
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👍
@airplayrule 8 ай бұрын
how can u possibly make $ as a phone flipper. like who's going to sell u low enough to resell it for a profit, after your time n likely fees etc?
@zachpierce641 8 ай бұрын
@@airplayrule been doing it since iPhone 4 came out . Full time basically since 2018. To answer your question lots of people . A lot of people would never consider shipping there phone or selling it on eBay. To risky I pay way more than the kiosk at Walmart and still make money . Every time I go to the store there’s people selling to those things . If there’s enough money for them to put kiosk everywhere to people to basically give away their phones to there’s plenty for me to make money on . Also broken phones are big for me. You’re just not going to sell them locally and there’s a lot of money in them
@MikePap-zk9gw Жыл бұрын
Those T206s were 100% real. Nice job guys.
@unblinddotnet Жыл бұрын
Nah. They were fake. They had a gloss to them, too stiff and felt kinda like plastic. I felt them.
@steelcitydw Жыл бұрын
Ty and Mike, thank you for being merciful with the bad news. It reflects your respect for this hobby and who you are as men. Cheers and hope to shake your hand at the National
@glc424 Жыл бұрын
Who's this steelcity guy 😂😂, hey Dan. Spot on with your comment. Good Luck Chuck
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
@joeym2675 Жыл бұрын
Not calling Mike old, but the age difference in you two, Ty, you having Mike around to learn from is Awesome!!! That Knowledge Is Priceless!!!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Ty walks around with a notebook, just taking notes from Mike. 😂
@bradymania9312 Жыл бұрын
loving this episode!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it
@RobertLee-wi5kc Жыл бұрын
Wow I have collected for 44 years. I can't believe you buy any card collection without a good 20 power loupe. It also helps to weigh vintage cards if worried about trimming as well as a caliper.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
We use the Binford 6100 on all of our collection buys
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
If I were them...I'd bring a kit....a book with exact measurements of every card, for every year. 4 screw drivers, 2 loupes, and a scale (small ruler) to take precise measurements...specifically in millimeters as that is more exact. Just saying....
@RonLoranger-cz9tb Жыл бұрын
You guys kill it. Some of the best card videos online
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
@RobertMiller131 Жыл бұрын
That card you said was a T204 is a T207. Those T206's look legit based on the little screen time you showed. Next time give more screen time to the cards and not you two looking at them.
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
I knew I was wrong the minute I said it. As far as showing more of the cards, this is a show for non-card people. It’s about the story. The cards are just the means to the story.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👍
@joecorso5335 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of the channel and what you guys do. But as a T206 collector I can assure you those T206 cards are 100% real.
@Co-ClownWorld Жыл бұрын
Maybe they told him they were reprints to offer a lowball smoother. The home run derby cards, the lew alcindor rc and the ryan rc tend to lean towards that...
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Curious… how you figure?
@jasongeorge7209 Жыл бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I'm with Joe. One way to tell is the slight offset printing between the black border and the color passes on the front.
@johnson8478 Жыл бұрын
I agree….the t206 cards all look fine.
@brandondodd7973 Жыл бұрын
Love this perspective, now I'm questioning everyone lol
@MUTKevJo Жыл бұрын
The guy felt like your offer was trying to rook him. I thought your offer was a bit low tbh. But anyways.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Cards were in really rough shape. He’s on the dfw FB marketplace. Go get them!
@raymondheflin-jr1ls Жыл бұрын
Lol
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
I disagree....based on what I saw and the condition.......yeah, $1200 was plenty fair frankly.
@Philly_Joe Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Tough luck the last couple of episodes though the presentation is as always top-notch. Get 'em next time! #smellyourcards Have a great one!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@roberthill3703 Жыл бұрын
I remember growing up in the 80s I swear there was another home derby show like the one Mike was talking about. Great stuff guy's keep up the good work!
@steelehere1 Жыл бұрын
ESPN aired repeats of the original show during the 80's and 90's. He's probably referring to watching those airtimes when he said he saw them as a kid.
@zachpierce641 Жыл бұрын
@@steelehere1 I remember seeing them on ESPN Classic maybe 10 years ago
@imperfectgamer54 Жыл бұрын
Some of these new so-called collectors need to learn and think more about the collector. I've been collecting for over 40 years. The cards I pulled back then I put in screwdowns and taking them out now, isn't gonna change or save the condition. Plus, I'm not willing to send them off in the mail to Psa or any other authenticator. But I'm not going to convince you they are real. I Pulled and Put them in here. Wasn't about money then and still isn't for me.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@commentingcollector Жыл бұрын
To me this video exposes the seedy/shady underbelly of the hobby- but you gentlemen handled it with class as you usually do!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Chipper_slabs Жыл бұрын
Great episode. You guys are the best!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@JunkWaxHero Жыл бұрын
Another great episode. I love the diversity of stories and cards you guys show.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@chrishayes4166 Жыл бұрын
The 1959 homerun derby set has been my toe dip into the non-topps/bowman vintage. My psa Banks from that set is a favorite in my collection. And it's funny Mike pointed out the 68 topps Ryan feeling flimsier/thinner stock. I've always felt that when holding random raw 1968 topps cards compared to other sets from that era. Maybe they did use thinner stock that year?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👍
@patrickbaklava7297 Жыл бұрын
I never send my cards for grading because its a scam. The fact you can get different grades from the exact same card if you submit it multiple times is ridiculous. Its just a racket.
@officialghetty Жыл бұрын
I agree man, it’s a racket and they control the population of certain cards.
@patrickbaklava7297 Жыл бұрын
@@officialghetty not to mention they get things wrong all the time. In the pokemon community people would get artists to sign cards (which they artist intentionally personalizes so people cant resell) and then they would use chamicals to remove the personalization. Meanwhile PSA was grading those cards as not altered even tho the person clearly used chemicals on the card. The grading process is ridiculius. Some guy has like 45 seconds to look at your card othereise they are cutting into profit margins. They literally take no time assesing each card.
@patrickbaklava7297 Жыл бұрын
My bad for the typos im on a phone with fat fingers.
@patrickbaklava7297 Жыл бұрын
30$ to get one card looked at for 60 seconds by a minimum wage employee.... Pass
@asylum9644 Жыл бұрын
I agree... and am sorry that these two guys promote the racket..., and you can see why, as they have alot invested into the grading racket.
@MarkfromKy Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the reruns of the HR Derby on ESPN 2 when I was a kid, so cool to see those HR Derby cards too bad the T206 cards were reprints
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Loved that show!
@Wootensportscards Жыл бұрын
Best KZfaq channel for cards..
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@pmn618 Жыл бұрын
I hope you guys know what you are talking about with the t206s. Most reprints or fakes are better centered and the image/ color are the tell tale signs. In the view pics I see here they appear to be real with honest/ uneven wear. Also, the text /font is the obvious give away. You all seem to be overly focused on the feel. We all.know you all don't handle raw t206s all that often are you sure you didn't jump the gun?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Well we’ve seen more than you think. We didn’t start handling cards when we put out this show. So if we went back and bought them, would you be an interested buyer?
@jasongeorge7209 Жыл бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I'm with PMN here. There are definitely reprints but it's the backs that make them obvious. There is no real reason to fake a Krause Sweet Cap, which from the video looks like honest wear and printing. There are lots of shellacked fronts out there that feel smooth...but are real. I would actually be an interested buyer if you went back.
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
@@jasongeorge7209 hey Jason, it’s Drew from Tobacco Row! 100% agree with your sentiments. Honest mistake of course on their end, but I also tend to agree that those t206 were real. Hope the guy didn’t trash them..
@benfisher921 Жыл бұрын
The t206’s look legit for sure
@brandondodd7973 Жыл бұрын
@@leftyndv10 lol man if he trashed them then they should make it right
@B.RAD4bmx Жыл бұрын
Excited for the TN video
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Same
@mi777ke777 Жыл бұрын
Yo guys. Its critical to have a jewelers loop, mini microscope, flash light and other important tools before you set out on these collection visits. Come on! 😄 Not a bad episode though. The cards that had been sitting in the view presses will still sell to raw card collectors just fine especially if they look good. As long as descriptions in listings are honest and state defects. Eye appeal is a magical thing especially with the ultra vintage. I've seen some worn torn cards sell for big money that left me scratching my head.
@mattworkman1583 Жыл бұрын
Any decent phone camera will work when you zoom in.
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
Along with that - 4 sets of screw drivers, a notebook with detailed notes on exact measurements down to the millimeters for different year cards and manufacturers, a millimeter scale (small metal ruler), AND a book of baseline beater samples of actual cards that you can use for comparison. They don't have to be in perfect shape...just beaters and no name players.....this way you have something REAL to compare it to (a BASELINE). 2 Loupes ...not just one.
@mi777ke777 11 ай бұрын
@@user-tl7mj2bm4m "beater samples" excellent suggestion. Especially if you can get stuff super cheap to help you verify the staples. I;m thinking like '35 Diamond Star or '33 Goudey , T205's. The fakes are getting really good. I've seen people go out of there way and stain cards with tea to get patina lol.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ok
@tp938 3 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome - keep up the great work. Australia loves you!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@chrislongball6116 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait till next episode enjoy the watch
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@happyhamster1411 Жыл бұрын
easiest way to spot a fake is under magnification. The image is made up of tiny honeycomb shaped dots and the black ink in the borders and writing is always one solid color. That being said, the majority of vintage graded 7 and above is usually trimmed
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Good to knwo
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
Exactly.....no loupe? Why? Always bring one (better yet -bring TWO)....and bring beat samples of vintage cards to have as a reference/baseline. Then, there's no doubt. Most forgers cannot replicate the dots or honeycombs......but sometimes that is only revealed via visual analysis by LOUPE.
@Mardigrasman23 Жыл бұрын
Kind of a bummer. But that’s what makes you guys real. Walk away When it’s not right for both parties. So many think you hit all the homeruns. It’s good to see the deals that arnt made. Great to see Mike again.
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
Always good to be seen. Lol
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@chadlawrence5865 Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot about how to look for fakes on this video. thanks guys.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
No problem!
@randylochtefeld2806 Жыл бұрын
Artificial Intelligence will benefit grading. As an investment buyer, or a hobby collector, we need to eliminate the human element from grading and AI presents the opportunity for that.
@bobo44donemilking51 Жыл бұрын
Especially PSA the most inconsistent graders on the planet, Jekyll and Hyde graders
@gumshoe7237 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been saying , and will continue to .. I think its just a matter of time , before every card shop has a machine , and you just walk in pay the shop fee and get your card graded .. Same way every time , and you get a grade and a slab on the spot , and the grade you get is the grade you get .
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@stuke1976 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@erichasenohrl1780 5 ай бұрын
I love their negotiating, they play it down like they are complete crap cards but hey we will buy it all and we can still move it and price it up 5x higher in our store. So, still all good and every episode like this is the same. 😂
@kenscardboard Жыл бұрын
Way to show the whole story of some deals that didn’t work along with the deals that do work. All things cardboard is a fun watch.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DoubleDvintagebaseballcards Жыл бұрын
Great video guys as always 🤙🏻🤙🏻
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
C’mon Mike, that tobacco issue is a T207…
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
I totally screwed that up and I just blanked
@leftyndv10 Жыл бұрын
@@BaseballCollector , I will let ya slide this one time ;). All jokes aside tho, was there some crackling on those t206 that wasn’t showing in the vids well? Because just from the limited shots of film, they all looked legit to me. They didn’t have any of the crackle look to them common with tea. Color and nameplate looked spot on as well, as did the uneven corner wear and bit of loss on the Joss. You mentioned a gloss, which the T207’s do have for sure, T206 a little less in that regard of course.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@SportsCardArchives362 Жыл бұрын
Yo the knowledge IV gained from this video was amazing💯 Love the content🤙😜😁🤘💯💖💯
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive 10 ай бұрын
Might want to double check all that info as it sounds like it was 95% incorrect
@giuliettarenner1343 Жыл бұрын
Look!!!! 👁🗨 👁🗨......It's Mike & Ty..🖐..🌊
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Johndeplume. Жыл бұрын
Great episode, lads. Very educational in spotting trimmed and fake cards. 👍
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MikePap-zk9gw Жыл бұрын
Nice job on passing on real t206s. Too funny.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ok
@williamdunlapwaxnews 7 ай бұрын
Real lol like he don't know If something is real. This is not his first rodeo.
@MMQCARDS22 3 ай бұрын
""And your dumb"", - GMAS boi
@StraightRaceCards Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a small world. I had actually reached out to this guy as well to chat about the T206’s specifically. Didn’t feel right about it and didn’t chase it down. Great video as always guys!
@unblinddotnet Жыл бұрын
He's since taken the fake cards out of his listing, which is the right thing to do.
@johnson8478 Жыл бұрын
Ya probably should have bought them if the price was right as those T206’s are definitely not fake. Didn’t Look like he had anything special in there though…..the Joss was rough and the rest were commons.
@ottoolsen7640 Жыл бұрын
Seems to be some disagreement on the 206s. I wonder who is right? If he pitched them, we’ll never know.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
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@JohnMiller-jj9kx Жыл бұрын
I would of thought the Ryan RC and those 59s would have been worth close to $1,200.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Condition is key.
@markstein1916 5 ай бұрын
All good, except for the blind allegiance to TPG. They are corrupt, inconsistent, and can't grade or authenticate any better than an experienced collector.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 5 ай бұрын
Who is TPG?
@markstein1916 5 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Third Party Grading. PSA, Beckett, SGC and the like. You know... those guys who can't detect alteration, take forever to grade your cards, and issue better grades for "preferred" submitters. Those guys!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 5 ай бұрын
@@markstein1916 Right on… we love raw cards. We love slabbed cards. Simple as that for us.
@markstein1916 5 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Thanks.... Love your channel, and this was an interesting episode. Keep up the great work!
@glc424 Жыл бұрын
Myself not a vintage guy, but I do love the history & nostalgia. Learning a ton from you both & I would of done $130, that was classic lol. Kool meeting you Mike at Frank & Sons.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JamesHein-ln3qy Жыл бұрын
Great video, fun to see both of your passion about the history of the cards
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
@NomahLovesYah 9 ай бұрын
LOVED this episode and LOVE what you guys do!
@BobBoozle Жыл бұрын
I watched the derby reruns growing up. Liked to see the interactions with the hitters.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
So fun
@sp123 Жыл бұрын
This is why grading companies exist to authenticate vintage cards. Anyone serious about selling these types of cards will get a few graded to show they are real
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@billkhan3789 Жыл бұрын
I knew those HR Derby cards were destined for Mike’s collection!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Haha
@lonardgetchell-bm9lc Жыл бұрын
I had no idea there were "Home Run Derby" baseball cards. I have the entire TV series on DVD. One season in 1959 at the Los Angeles "Wrigley Field." Fun show.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Yeah so cool
@redrum2612 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@redrum2612 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD You're welcome!
@LRGXRP 4 ай бұрын
Great video do you guys have this sellers info? I’d be interested in buying his collection
@jaredsmith3516 8 ай бұрын
person with fake cards: I always thought grading cards was a raquet. you: why is that? hahahah
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 8 ай бұрын
👍 👍
@noah.conley Жыл бұрын
Just had leg surgery, for my fractured fibula!!! Enjoyed the episode
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
I'd say break a leg...but hey, you've already done that.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ouch!
@johnwayne7019 Жыл бұрын
I need the hour episodes
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Haha
@gametimeinternational Жыл бұрын
sweet video as always.... cant wait to get back to the states and look for some collections myself
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
@JamesHein-ln3qy Жыл бұрын
New word in the hobby, “super minty”
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
words to describe this collection: beat to hell....or the nicer connotation version..."well loved". For example - saying "He fucking died" versus " He gently passed on" or "He went to a better place"......
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ha
@RetailRipper Жыл бұрын
somebody about to come over and be the new owner of fake and trimmed cards for a premium.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👍
@rage508cardsngrails Жыл бұрын
2nd watch i absolutely love this show
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@madhatterer1978 2 ай бұрын
The problem. With grading is the cost. For me.
@yodaskywalker2331 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone sends cards in for grading. I’m one of them
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Yeah and that’s perfectly fine. Everyone collectors differently.
@henrys3629 Жыл бұрын
I think my Nolan Ryan RC is still in a screwdown from 1997!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
:-)
@GodisKing1219 8 ай бұрын
He didn’t want his face shown on camera that’s already a red flag right there.
@johnewing3553 Жыл бұрын
Love the video as usual!! What is the song at the end? Thanks guys. Keep Chasing!!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Not sure.
@davec2020 Жыл бұрын
Hello gentlemen i am always intrigued what youll find next. Great content keep it up. Do you ever go to the east coast Boston?? I have a collection of cards i would like to sell the whole lot. I have Brady, Mahommes, Jeter, Acuna, Trout, Kobe, Tatum etc. Most rookie , numbered or auto. Lmk any advice would be greatly appreciated ty
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Maybe one day! Prices are so low, you might wanna hold on for a bit.
@waddles3858 Жыл бұрын
Great episode again
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
@broncosbreaks Жыл бұрын
Wow! Mike’s understanding and knowledge in the vintage era is unprecedented! He is keen and acute with his breakdown of collections !
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👍
@crazykev6491 Жыл бұрын
I’m shocked you even made an offer. Specially after all the fake stuff and in screw downs. Then when he said he didn’t want to be on camera, I’d be thanks byeeee. Why take a chance and waste $$
@chanceburns121 Жыл бұрын
For the video lol
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
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@matthewtulinski3481 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video had a question about one of the autographs that quickly panned by in one of the final clips?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Which card?
@matthewtulinski3481 Жыл бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD It looked like a negro league signed photo was something like that in the collection?
@forzendikar9908 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the seller about grading. But to each their own, just have fun collecting however you choose.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@PropiaPersona Жыл бұрын
People trying to authenticate the cards through a video is the same as trying to grade a card through a video So idiotic
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
#FACTS
@centerhillcards Жыл бұрын
It's one thing to have people say they will pay a number for a collection but actually giving you the money is another thing!
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 11 ай бұрын
I agree....I've heard that same shit on American Pickers.....Seller: Well, I was offered this 3 years ago. Me: Well, you should have taken it DUMBASS. This is ALL I"m offering YOU now. Take it or leave it. Rule #1 - when someone offers you CRAZY MONEY (ie. exorbitantly LARGE amount that is WELL past what the market is paying).......TAKE IT. I have and I have rarely regretted it.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
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@richardprice8951 Жыл бұрын
The dude is moving to Mexico... sounds like he's seen Shawshank Redemption one too many times !
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@BlackdogCards Жыл бұрын
$1,200 seemed like a low ball offer
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
What would have been a fair offer?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Nah
@jmcl2232 Жыл бұрын
So much better than the Goldin series.
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
We agree with you.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@maxajackson89 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you didn't show that poor man's face in the video so his name and reputation will not be tainted by you misrepresenting and misidentifying his cards as fake. You have a responsibility with the size of your channel and following to give accurate information. I hope you publish a retraction/apology video because as of now you have mislead 11k people who will take what you said as gospel.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@randomname3715 5 ай бұрын
A LOT of T206 cards were counterfeited in the 80s along with Pete Rose rookies.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 5 ай бұрын
Yup
@matthewtuxhorn9117 Жыл бұрын
LOL You guys missed the boat on the T206s!!! You didn't even know what a T207 was!! Better stick to the shiny graded stuff.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you came for perfection... we aren't the right guys. Perfectly imperfect.
@johnsmanycollections4662 Жыл бұрын
You guys are so lucky I took John's cards out of the old screw-downs before you got there. You'd have had to spend another day just removing them.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks!!
@Dizzydub1 Жыл бұрын
Mike smelling cards to tell if it's real or fake is #HobbyGoals in life! :)
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@carolinatarheels7903 Жыл бұрын
Mike probably isn’t as old as Ty thinks as I’m 44 and watched Home Run Derby on ESPN Classic all of the time in the 90’s.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
It's probably safe to assume Ty was just having fun with Mike
@carolinatarheels7903 Жыл бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I realize that but also let people know it was on during the 90's
@danblau2436 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel but it was tough to watch this one. Any experienced prewar collector can tell just from watching the video that the T206s are legit. You also misidentify some of them. I feel bad for the seller, hopefully someone can tell him that the cards are real so he doesn't get rid of them or get ripped off.
@SUPERTECHGAMESS Жыл бұрын
You say experienced collector, yet you think an experienced collector will say something is real just by looking at it and not touching it? That is a perfect example of an inexperienced collector. Lol
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ok
@pfriderfan 11 ай бұрын
Newer screw-downs are recessed to eliminate flattening of cards. I still don't us them though.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Good to know
@jaxlee3226 Жыл бұрын
cool music
@CHASINGCARDBOARD Жыл бұрын
Glad you like the music! We work hard to get it right!
@bpeterson1995 Жыл бұрын
Edward Scissor-Hands didn't want to appear on camera? That's weird
@BaseballCollector Жыл бұрын
He didn’t trim the cards. He bought them that way
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ha
@matthewessmann2429 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode. Hope you sent Beau a chasing cardboard shirt after doing ur eBay video lol. Beau is a good friend of mine. Anyway. I always watching these negotiations from a buyer and seller side of things bc obviously you guys are both. I guess what I’m always curious about is what is the number you guys are willing to buy and what kinda margins are looking to achieve. I have a lot of football cards right now, 1800 cards or so and I’ve done the work and research to know it had a $1300 eBay sold for value on the low end and with a lot of those cards are free. I had a dealer offer me $200 for the entire lot and I was geez dude you need to make $1100 profit on my cards in order to buy??? I understand it takes time to list on eBay or hold cards that maybe don’t sell right away, but that’s every dealer. Hell some cards sit in peoples showcases at shows for years, I’ve seen it. Just curious from potential buyers out there, what % do you normally offer to sellers in order for the juice to be worth the squeeze
@claywinn32 Жыл бұрын
I have a shop and really depending on what cards are in the collection,are they gonna be fast moving,desirable cards or more long tail,but just off your numbers of 1800 cards with a potential value of $1300,which sounds like a lot of low end cards,being less than a $1 each average,I'd be around $500-600,once again depends on the players in there, fast sellers vs. slow sellers. If it's just a handful of cards, say 5-10 cards I will pay higher than 45-50%, say around 60-70%. Collections take longer to process and go through so the margins have to be better.
@zachpierce641 Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of cards. Hours upon hours of work. You can’t look at it as just a quick flip . You have to think about the time you have to put in to that and if you have a bunch of 50 cent cards. I mean it could take years of those to sell. It’s not like you throw them up on eBay and they just sell the next day.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@deadprezful Жыл бұрын
I talked to the same guy over Facebook on several occasions.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Oh?
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