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Facing 8x Overbet all-in for $14k

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CrushlivePoker

CrushlivePoker

Күн бұрын

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@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 6 ай бұрын
Utilizing all information available to you at the table is a key skill. See 13:19 where Bart lays down the gold. Context is important. You always have the opportunity to listen and observe to get a feel for which players are up or down big, who has their stack locked up, who is tilted etc. Be present and factor this extra context in when making big decisions.
@johnf1772
@johnf1772 6 ай бұрын
However, if T8cc is a call, then villain can do this big bet with 55. If hero is going to arrive to the river, and then call, with Tc with 6789JQAc (let's say 432 fold pf) only one of those hurts 55. Add in hero having KTdd, and TT - six combos lose to 55, three don't. Even if you think hero has KsTd and KhTd in his range 55 has value in that overbet. If 55 has no diamond, then I guess hero could have T5dd...sometimes.
@stefancopicuk
@stefancopicuk 6 ай бұрын
That was a lot of fun to watch and fantastic hand to learn from. Thank you. Overbets are increasingly common. Though perhaps not 8X ! Really enjoy these hands where you mix in live stream footage with blacked out reveals. Thanks Bart and good job editing team. Would be great to have more of these. Also thought it was useful to consider what we do with 8Tc here, as opposed to Heros more clear call FH.
@stefancopicuk
@stefancopicuk 6 ай бұрын
Due the extreme nature of the betting, If this hand wasnt streamed, would you wait for V to reveal his hand after you call? Knowing a little of what V is up to here could have huge future value.
@TERRIBLETRADER
@TERRIBLETRADER 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely lost it when he said "What if the villain was Rampage?" 😂😂😂
@spaffron4285
@spaffron4285 6 ай бұрын
Rampage catching strays
@crankin7662
@crankin7662 6 ай бұрын
The "fool you, I'm actually the villian" and "I didn't really have that hand" is getting old.
@Jren999
@Jren999 6 ай бұрын
Depends on the hand, made this one better
@danielmeuler2877
@danielmeuler2877 6 ай бұрын
way to old.
@johncassol8855
@johncassol8855 6 ай бұрын
Facts. Corny asf
@sneakkyz3696
@sneakkyz3696 6 ай бұрын
Yup. Someone come up with something new please 😂
@mangohavoc6428
@mangohavoc6428 6 ай бұрын
@@sneakkyz3696I was actually the dealer in this hand.
@jakemason4801
@jakemason4801 6 ай бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when people who called in actually said what hand they had
@davidbrook9209
@davidbrook9209 6 ай бұрын
We don't learn anything if he calls with his real hand though
@cargopants417
@cargopants417 6 ай бұрын
​@davidbrook9209 Okay so take another caller, not some guy who snapped off a huge punt and wants to play out the what-if scenario that he'll probably never face again.
@BluffaloSam
@BluffaloSam 6 ай бұрын
This one still hurts to watch 😂 I did say I'd go as thin as AT OTR, but completely forgot i 2x'd the turn, so i would never have AT there. I'd still be using the same size with 55/KT/KK though. After speaking about the hand with others, i do much prefer a 5k sizing compared to all in though.
@webslinger516
@webslinger516 6 ай бұрын
Thx for chiming in!
@wompwomp7177
@wompwomp7177 6 ай бұрын
You are a legend in the making! Not afraid to get unorthodox and make mistakes. Blessings to u my man
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by, kid. You have heart!
@JTmakesfunofdiabled-hs9kh
@JTmakesfunofdiabled-hs9kh 6 ай бұрын
Very ballsy play lol. Love to see it.
@christianulmer
@christianulmer 6 ай бұрын
Why would you ever 8x jam on the river with a boat after 2xing the turn? I call BS 🤣
@qlow5956
@qlow5956 6 ай бұрын
Can we PLEASE be done with the switcharoo callers
@reaganabroad4952
@reaganabroad4952 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Makes me not want to watch anymore videos.
@scott_M14
@scott_M14 6 ай бұрын
As soon as he said he was on Jacksonville livestream. I knew instantly it was Buffalo sam that bet 8x pot. 😂😂😂
@britishbulldogish
@britishbulldogish 6 ай бұрын
I've seen all Sam's vlogs, he had a ridiculous hourly in Texas by choosing sizes to get it all in on the river and that is what I believe he was doing here. He just ran into it, this works 98% of the time.
@dullatron
@dullatron 6 ай бұрын
And the one time out of 50 that it doesn't, he gets crushed. It would be akin to playing -3000 favorites in the NCAA Tournament or something like that.
@ticenits1926
@ticenits1926 6 ай бұрын
Polarizing strategy is very good at small stakes, however his river bet was unnecessarily large. He could’ve easily just made it 5K to accomplish the same thing
@bryaneltzroth8833
@bryaneltzroth8833 6 ай бұрын
@@ticenits1926 I think Sam made a comment about his massive overbet sizing in his vlog about this session
@ImperiumLibertas
@ImperiumLibertas 6 ай бұрын
GTO Wizard has a video that talks about how betting a 60% pot size on each street makes it most likely you are able to get it all in by the river. The important part is not changing the bet sizing on each street and the 60% size keeps the opponents range as wide as possible while still making an all in shove give good SPR for the opponent.
@ticenits1926
@ticenits1926 6 ай бұрын
@@ImperiumLibertas you cant get in stacks betting 60% pot unless you mean just jamming the river every time.
@seslocrit9365
@seslocrit9365 6 ай бұрын
Great heart by Sam; you can hear his actual thought process in his vlog. If he's going to take this line, he should be doing it with 65 (which got counterfeit) and 5x that blocks bottom set. 2x potting AT on the turn is a punt and makes no sense.
@pontus3142
@pontus3142 6 ай бұрын
But does he open 65s from the CO? K5s and K6s are other good hands to bluff with... but does he have them? It's nigh-impossible to be balanced if you take a line like this. The reason to do it is because you think opponents will severely overfold or overcall. MDF says you only call 10% of the time, so I would imagine that real-life players will overcall. So maybe if you take this line, it's never a bluff.
@Jermo484
@Jermo484 6 ай бұрын
He just shouldn't be taking this line because it's awful.
@pedro.gandra
@pedro.gandra 6 ай бұрын
Not heart, trying to be a bully and looking like an idiot, this is not poker.
@theWATRpodcast
@theWATRpodcast 2 ай бұрын
Which episode of his vlog is it?
@zekebones34
@zekebones34 6 ай бұрын
Bluffalo Sam is the villain, go check his poker vlogs. He’s a great watch
@herts9999
@herts9999 6 ай бұрын
As soon as I heard his name was Bluffalo whatever, it's a snap call even with T8
@adamseidel9780
@adamseidel9780 6 ай бұрын
I actually don’t mind the switcheroo late here, it does give us an interesting look at a more difficult hand. 10-6 was three easier decisions, 10-8 gives us that river blender.
@wesleykorisky8600
@wesleykorisky8600 6 ай бұрын
Checkout his vlogs, Bart. I look most forward to Bluffalo Sam's vlogs every week because he's so good at articulating his thought process in great detail.
@FuzzypupPoker
@FuzzypupPoker 6 ай бұрын
To the caller stop with this crap of changing the hand at the end for a "surprise". This isn't constructive. Say what your hand is and discuss if it was a different hand like T8s from there or whatever.
@pokerbum
@pokerbum 5 ай бұрын
Your KZfaq comment means so much to me bro..please don’t stop..this is so great for people wanting more hand exposure
@themaniac8294
@themaniac8294 6 ай бұрын
I played with Carson before lol. He called me down with AJ high for $400 on the river when I had a boat 😂
@OhCanadaMoose
@OhCanadaMoose 6 ай бұрын
Bizarre. Ive started seeing this kind of play a lot more online recently. The turn overbet has gotten very popular recently, but most dont follow through with it on the river. But to do it this deep makes no sense whatsoever. Risking like 500bb to win 50 or whatever just thinking no trips will ever call. Im so glad the caller got this one. I was about to be sick if he said he folded. And bluffalo sam definitely just did this for exposure.
@gazorpazorp9798
@gazorpazorp9798 6 ай бұрын
Omg same. Turn over bet River jam. Now I know where it’s coming from. They all want to be this Sam guy,
@MrTata1000
@MrTata1000 6 ай бұрын
If this vlogger succeeded in a $100 to 100k challenge, I will definitely watch his videos. So no hate But his shove was an extreme polarization mistake.
@wolflarsen4744
@wolflarsen4744 6 ай бұрын
Bluffalo takes some pretty wild lines. I’d have to call.
@danielmeuler2877
@danielmeuler2877 6 ай бұрын
This SwitchAroo at the end is beyond annoying. It was mildly amusing the 1st time. But it's just stupid now.
@pastramionrye247
@pastramionrye247 6 ай бұрын
I think a 2x overbet with AT is interesting in this spot *if* it folds out a lot of Kx one pair hands but gets called by Tx of clubs and flush draw + straight draw hands. Then the play is to check behind unimproved on the river. (The 7x pot river bet on the river is just LOL live play silliness.) Obviously, you don't make this play with AT if your ten is the Tc.
@raphg6319
@raphg6319 6 ай бұрын
Damn, this guy has received an early Xmas Gift.
@billperkins4477
@billperkins4477 6 ай бұрын
Guys please stop this bs with saying you had a different hand than you actually did. It's disrespectful to Bart and the listeners.
@rvoykin
@rvoykin 3 ай бұрын
Agree, 100% that’s not cool. Maybe if you agree ahead of time to do it but to do it blindly on his platform is lame.
@JoshCosta
@JoshCosta 6 ай бұрын
I never understand these guys who make massive overbets like this. Sometimes overbetting is good but 15x is just hilarious
@monsweko
@monsweko 6 ай бұрын
Caller found a spot that I never dared to dream could exist.
@mtgoxsucks435
@mtgoxsucks435 6 ай бұрын
I’m ditching this hand with the first 2X over bet. Maybe that’s too nitty but I feel like I’ll have better hands to call down for that price.
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 6 ай бұрын
he had T6 though, turned two pair.
@davidbarber9663
@davidbarber9663 6 ай бұрын
What was the point of misrepresenting his hand?
@skylertaylor7283
@skylertaylor7283 10 күн бұрын
Yeah it's idiotic..basically just means he had the likely best hand and he had zero reason to think before calling
@michaela2706
@michaela2706 6 ай бұрын
Bart should charge this guy for promo, seems like this is just promo for a stream
@brianpotter2812
@brianpotter2812 6 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, why COULDN'T you play KK this way? If you perceived your opponent to have a combo draw, you're wanting to get as much value in while you're ahead and make it expensive for your opponent to draw. Not to mention that if somehow he had 10-10, 5-5, or the last remaining King for K-10, you get a chance to look like a bluff so you would encourage a good player to fall for the trap and raise back into you.
@adventurek6734
@adventurek6734 6 ай бұрын
youre probably going to torch EV if you 8x pot your KK same way he torched his hand here. Imho 2x pot gets the same results as 8x
@michabrzozowski1486
@michabrzozowski1486 6 ай бұрын
@@adventurek6734 The question is why is K-10 more likely than KK.
@stefancopicuk
@stefancopicuk 6 ай бұрын
Agreed You gotta throw in a few nutted hands for balance here. KK works well as it unblocks all the trips and weaker FH. Youre not getting called for ANY size from missed draws. After calling T 2X pot bet Heros most.likely hand is pair + FD (or maybe small set), and if you have KK then T is v likely, and that can call a bluffy overbet.
@theWATRpodcast
@theWATRpodcast 2 ай бұрын
Which episode of bluffalo sams vlog is it?
@FantasyFootballGod23
@FantasyFootballGod23 6 ай бұрын
Gotta love Jacksonville!!! Best Bet - be patient, cross your fingers, & get paid
@adamqu3347
@adamqu3347 6 ай бұрын
Ohhh when I read 10x river jam on the title for 14k, and then heard it's on stream. I had a feeling it's gonna be blufflosam😂
@nathanielmorgan3592
@nathanielmorgan3592 6 ай бұрын
T6 is very very different than T8. Beating 55 and 66(unlikely cbet) is huge. T8 I'd think is a fold. K5 and K6 are better as they block value, and villain doesn't have a T for 2x pot on turn. Unless you think he's overbluffing then call with all Tx.
@EllieBanks333
@EllieBanks333 6 ай бұрын
This is a case of "genius play" antics by the villain BluffaturdSam. The desperate need to demonstrate that you have figured out that no limit means you can make ridiculous bets. And it seems appropriate that our caller/hero went fake call mode since he had a hand that made this play boring. Or maybe he really wanted to see if Bart thought there was any difference between T6 and T8 here. I don't see any. The big turn bet could easily be KK charging the max against a range that's mostly club draws. But the river bet doesn't represent anything. There is no holding for which it is the correct bet amount, and that is the supposed "genius play" aspect of it. It did give me some definite happiness to see the hero snap call with a boat & take about 15.5K from queen high.
@Mrdudeman
@Mrdudeman 6 ай бұрын
I mean, his results speak for themselves. Bluffalo is crushing.
@izzie211107
@izzie211107 6 ай бұрын
i'm not licking boots but well played bart...
@westongifford5625
@westongifford5625 6 ай бұрын
Bluffalo Sam is the goat 🐐 watch his bankroll challenge
@colintimp1372
@colintimp1372 6 ай бұрын
I can absolutely see KK playing this way. If you have KK, your opponent is going to be limited to draws and 10-x mostly. All the draws missed, so you don't lose anything by making an overbet; as they're not calling anyway. It looks bluffy and a 10-x hand may call. I don't think K10 does this, as it blocks too many of the value hands you'd be looking to pay off an overbet. I also don't see 55 doing this as often because there's so much value to get paid by since you unblock all the Kx and 10x hands. Maybe 66 does this simply because it's so disguised.
@vadimkozlov3008
@vadimkozlov3008 6 ай бұрын
How does someone call in? I got a strange hand.
@Jimmy_James79
@Jimmy_James79 6 ай бұрын
I actually like that he flipped it here instead of 10c6c ... its a great break down with 10c8c and what to do.
@1312Mork2
@1312Mork2 6 ай бұрын
Holy shit thats an insane river spot WTH
@christianulmer
@christianulmer 6 ай бұрын
I mean even if you have just a naked 10 there you have to call. Unless you have a crazy read on a super wild opponent, who the hell is going to 2x pot a set on the turn and then 8x jam a full house on the river? Especially with all flush and straight draws missing, I’m taking about 15 seconds and then sticking it in with the ten, even if my second card is an EBT card
@prob_theory1751
@prob_theory1751 6 ай бұрын
I would probably fold in the moment - due to the size of the bet. After review - I think calling is fine.
@EfficientRVer
@EfficientRVer 6 ай бұрын
Time to put an end the lying callers. Institute a lifetime ban from calling in again, at least. Maybe even have callers e-sign a document that intentional misrepresentation of the hand incurs a $1000 charge. Callers are not supposed to be composing a contrived chess puzzle or fantasy poker hand here, they're supposed to be discussing real poker hands with completely honest info. Did he really show first and not learn what villain had?????? Snap calling an 8x, $14K river bet and then showing first, is incredibly stupid. Never in a million years would I show first in that spot. When they have you crushed, you gave away a ton of info about yourself by showing. When you have them crushed, you paid to see their cards, though I'd be happy to let them irretrievably muck their hand rather than showing it, in case we are on different wavelengths about what I'd never call with.
@bryaneltzroth8833
@bryaneltzroth8833 6 ай бұрын
Sam is a vlogger himself. There is already plenty of tape on his style of play. He doesn't try to hide it in his content. That large sample size of information is much more valuable than seeing this one hand (which is live-streamed and you'll see anyway)
@cnewton6527
@cnewton6527 6 ай бұрын
Sam had a straight draw QJ off suit.
@MattWilky96
@MattWilky96 6 ай бұрын
I almost don’t see a difference between having T6cc vs T8cc in this spot if the line and overbet jam by V polarizes to KT (or KK in a super unlikely line) or absolute air. Someone tell me if I’m wrong please.. is it because we’re thinking 5s or 6s would also play this way and are included in his range after the jam as well?
@relaxationmeditationsleep2934
@relaxationmeditationsleep2934 6 ай бұрын
I hope you are not serious
@MattWilky96
@MattWilky96 6 ай бұрын
@@relaxationmeditationsleep2934??? Because T6 boats up? Yea I’m aware of that chief. It doesn’t change the fact that you still lose to KT,KK and the only difference now is you’re beating 5s played this way. Other than that isn’t it kinda the same, is what I’m asking. What are your thoughts I’m super curious
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 6 ай бұрын
T8 is less likely to call 2x Turn bet. (I would've folded T overbet with T8). This also makes difference in river decision making by V; which would make difference in calling decision by H. But, yeah, I've your point.
@LukePettit
@LukePettit 6 ай бұрын
What did villain have?
@Unhingedanduninformed
@Unhingedanduninformed 6 ай бұрын
QJo
@stevesteve788
@stevesteve788 6 ай бұрын
QhJd
@lankaprince
@lankaprince 6 ай бұрын
Q/j off.
@roymartin3358
@roymartin3358 6 ай бұрын
Villain Flopped the Open End Straight ~ And Missed Turn River
@kaysuhdila4725
@kaysuhdila4725 6 ай бұрын
I love BluffaloSam his videos are gr8
@mania1643
@mania1643 6 ай бұрын
Can we get a response from the villain here? Would love to hear what he was thinking bluffing 14X. Doesn’t seem like a thing. Bart’s read that being a blogger makes it more of a call was spot on.
@mrhong7807
@mrhong7807 6 ай бұрын
its on his blog
@BaadMotorFinger
@BaadMotorFinger 6 ай бұрын
It ruins the whole analysis of the hand when someone does this at the end of the call. Feels like I just wasted my time listening to the whole call up to that point
@Jared-wy5zw
@Jared-wy5zw 6 ай бұрын
So what rhe hell does villian have
@stevesteve788
@stevesteve788 6 ай бұрын
QhJd
@KraphtOne
@KraphtOne 6 ай бұрын
Is this a real call? If you had 10x that’s a decision. This was a snap. He can’t have quads. No value other than… nope… no value makes any sense to make that bet
@cargopants417
@cargopants417 6 ай бұрын
Fold pre
@spaffron4285
@spaffron4285 6 ай бұрын
Bluffalo has great content
@jeffreylittman9702
@jeffreylittman9702 6 ай бұрын
MDF is not applicable here IMO. It would be one thing if the villain repeatedly made this move but the villain will probably never 8x the river with this hero ever again.
@jamesmcginn6291
@jamesmcginn6291 6 ай бұрын
After the all in, I'm thinking the villain has K K or K 10, I wanting to fold.
@nikitakucherov5028
@nikitakucherov5028 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure neither of those would blow you out of the hand going 8x
@jamesmcginn6291
@jamesmcginn6291 5 ай бұрын
@@nikitakucherov5028 Good point.
@drfunkinstein1
@drfunkinstein1 6 ай бұрын
This is a good spot to randomize your decision I think.
@GrantW132
@GrantW132 6 ай бұрын
Don’t put this on here anymore. Only ‘real’ hands
@Jermo484
@Jermo484 6 ай бұрын
Why are nut flush draws easy calls on a turn facing a 2x overbet? I get that they're absurdly deep, but you don't get to just add their entire stack as implied odds when 99.9999% of people are never coming close to going broke here when the flush completes on the river except maybe with Q9 of clubs (and even that would be a wild overplay). Also, that river bet is just hilariously awful. If he's bluffing, what better hands ever call for like 2x but then fold to 8x? Obviously it's awful with thin value. If it's 55 or 66, everything worse folds and KT or 66 destroys his world. If it's KT, TT or KK, you basically get called sometimes by a few combos of 55 and 66 that probably never get here this way anyway. There aren't even words to describe how terrible it would be to do that with AT.
@pedro.gandra
@pedro.gandra 6 ай бұрын
I think because he also had a pair it makes it easier to call with the flush draw, with 2 pair is obviously a no brainer call. The bluff on the river is indeed trash. This is not poker, it's disgusting, I'm glad he lost his money. A 8x sizing is either a very disrespectful value bet or a very disrespectful bluff, with these vloggers that think they are so smart, is almost always a bluff. Because they just think you'll be scared to death. And no, this guy is never doing that with AT, him saying that just shows how pathetic he really is, absolutely no hand should take this sizing ever, neither as value or bluff.
@herts9999
@herts9999 6 ай бұрын
That guy making that play on the river will have him go broke faster than Rampage. And that's saying a lot.
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 6 ай бұрын
rampage busto?
@ziggyzaooo
@ziggyzaooo 6 ай бұрын
He folds Tc8c guaranteed, he says all that bs about i i wouldve called blah blah, if he didnt have a boat he wouldve folded.
@Brazz27
@Brazz27 6 ай бұрын
Just started the video but Sam is a youtube vlogger. And a very good and VERY agressive player. Im surprised it hasnt been mentioned after 5 mins into the video lol.
@dwaynerex7385
@dwaynerex7385 6 ай бұрын
Fold and find a different table lmao
@elliotdematteis7825
@elliotdematteis7825 4 ай бұрын
I don't really understand why he changed the hand for the call... really annoying.
@ianshirreffs5604
@ianshirreffs5604 6 ай бұрын
Hi Bart.
@MrAdamMcFarlan
@MrAdamMcFarlan 6 ай бұрын
What did the villain have?
@craigerc713
@craigerc713 6 ай бұрын
Qj off
@roymartin3358
@roymartin3358 6 ай бұрын
Villain flopped the Open ~End Straight
@InnerEngineer999
@InnerEngineer999 6 ай бұрын
Wou,don't be better 3 bet pre squeeze bb overall loose guy out
@mattmorton12
@mattmorton12 6 ай бұрын
Where do you do these callins live? @Crushlivepoker
@buggaboo2707
@buggaboo2707 6 ай бұрын
KTd gets there
@brianpotter2812
@brianpotter2812 6 ай бұрын
Only combo though, so 1 out of so may other possible hands.
@gazorpazorp9798
@gazorpazorp9798 6 ай бұрын
The ole switcheroo, yawn.
@dpollak59
@dpollak59 5 ай бұрын
Please stop encouraging people to scam you- What is the value in not telling the truth about your hand to Bart?
@Scottydontbutscottydoes
@Scottydontbutscottydoes 6 ай бұрын
This was so lame. I've played with this guy before. He's super annoying and constantly talks about big hands he's won, so this is just another situation where he has to brag about hitting a monster pot. I watched this hand live and dude did absolutely nothing to win this pot. Had massive equity every street and was just getting donked into. He wanted to brag about this hand so he had to call in and lie about what he had to get on the call to get some clout or something. But it's right up this guy's alley so not really surprised.
@lourencorcc4502
@lourencorcc4502 5 ай бұрын
He did come out as bragging in this video... Hate these peopl
@Scottydontbutscottydoes
@Scottydontbutscottydoes 4 ай бұрын
@@lourencorcc4502 yeah I really don’t like this dude. lol. Only talks about he wins massive pots and the only big hands he ever loses are coolers lol
@jerrygarcia4390
@jerrygarcia4390 6 ай бұрын
😳
@adamlefevre6016
@adamlefevre6016 6 ай бұрын
wAiT aRe YoU TeLlInG mE PoKeR pLaYeRs LIE????
@millenniumstarfury2482
@millenniumstarfury2482 6 ай бұрын
😆😆
@chauncieextreme8514
@chauncieextreme8514 6 ай бұрын
is it just me, or could this guy possibly sound any more all over the place. caller…please, have a snack
@Powner187
@Powner187 6 ай бұрын
You give so much analysis. Lets play headsup. Got discord?
@rezonrezz5581
@rezonrezz5581 6 ай бұрын
Oh shit this is vs @bluffalosam absolute legend
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