I kept count. It was 10million. Very exaggerated number smh

I’m judging you for saying that

Grubby would never.

​@@RethaxianGrubby Would & Could never

A billion is an impossibly large number. Grubby was using an hyperbole here.

pure defense of Hyjaal looking game

You still have the replay?

@@leleiiiiii Man, I wish. I've lost all things Warcraft 3 related over the years. I had officially uninstalled it in like 2010 as it was my go to game every day since it came out. Once I uninstalled and went through numerous PC builds, I lost a lot of stuff I never backed up (such as my replays).

He could have targeted the archer stack more aggressively. DH is hard to kill, and the NSW was more vulnerable to attacks. With the Spirit Touch nerf, he should have been aggressively seeking to get his necs killed (to get more mana via new necs) in order to generate corpses and get replacements with partial mana to spam the skeletons out. Judging the situation, when he had two bases, a standing necrowagon army + infrastructure to replace the necrowagon army, he could very well have finished off a normal NE with pressure, but hey, he was facing Grubby. Possibly lost his nerve there.

@@Instr Grubby was extremely good at microing his archers out of hero range when they had mana, and shoving his DH and Naga in their face when they didn't. UD had to play a fine line of keeping his heros alive because Naga Sea witch could slow them at any moment and put them in fear of death. Lets not forget he only had level 1 Coil and Frost Nova for most of the game as well, not enough to one shot archers. They both played extremely well but Grubbys micro was on a world class level here. Very difficult game for the UD to have a chance here against such a strong opponent

Lvl 3 Knives deleting Skellies 😂

Mana burn and wisp mana drain were critical though, letting coils and novas onto archers was certain defeat

why right obligatory? it's not obligatory, it's a choice!

@SomeRandomWordsHere_MrMr Counter with mana potions and so on. UD player would have been well-served by frenzied ghouls to eat through the NE's archers, and those were in fact the weak link.

And the counter attack with the skellies, really cool.

exp makes it a much more balanced and interesting exchange and is ultimately what allowed grubby to win. Swarm host units are truly free, whereas skeletons still forfeit xp which adds up over time

Not necessarily, but opponent has to have high level heroes as well to counter.

As far as i remember you could Counter mass skellis with staff of Negation in the Shop , priests or Whisps , But mainly with the staff , i guess it was in the Shop back than for exactly that reason

@@syableman6294 the count of skeletons that I made at this version was huge and dispellers die fast. The statues also gie more HP and mana in this patch. This was before more than 15 years.

Back then the biggest damage would be done to the opponent's framerate

@@Addsomehappy mostly at his army :)

@@tehnodruma ok i was talking aout roc times. i was there 3000years ago:)

so basicly. if u are not top50 progamer u cant win against my necro. and im a 60% player. i made many belivers who would bevile it. also chims is the best counter... fd dont work. u can outplay them 90% of the time.

@@nahirigathering1392 Yeah, you can replace the stats with suicide necs (i.e, deliberately get the necs killed to make way for more necs with greater mana pools0. You can always counter the chims btw with cripple + gargs, but end of the day, UD T2 is a question of getting economic superiority. Necs just seal the deal.

Warden 's lvl 3 Knives

Except you'll have no upgrades, late tech, and fewer units to defend the wells with. Pretty sure Grubby only got the extra wells early as a precaution during the rush, he expected to lose one or two and didn't, ending up with surplus

Items kinda have a hidden healthpool. It takes a few hits for a hero to destroy it, i Imagine a few more from a worker

@@KaptainKokosnoed yeah I believe the healt pool is like 70?

Tough to say. UD was at an exp disadvantage with just how many skeletons have to be sacrificed on the enemy, and with how hard it is to take even a single archer off Grubby. DL third splits that exp even further. But the ability to prevent those mana burn dives might have got some much needed coilnovas freed up

@@ambion19 yep when I played dota 1 and wow arenas I lernt that cc's are awesome.

Also strategic use of Cripple would have really put a crimp in Night Elf heroes and Chimaeras.

He didn’t have any lores and was low on gold at that point

well he rushed and dont have an expo so its actually a budget spent for the whole army built up

He spent all his money on an early PoTM and T3 Archer upgrades. He literally didn't have any money left before his 2nd expo was up and running.

He's already attempted it.

Enemy had expo earlier, so his mine collapses as first :d

You can only play wc3 on the "reforged" client. But you can switch the visuals in the options to be non-reforged/classic. It's still the reforged build but just the old graphics.

i dont think, that would change anything since he could only dispell like 3 or sum units per dryads before the necros summs 50 more

They only have 2-3 single target abolishes at high mana and weak to siege. In low numbers they don't do anything vs necrowagon and Grubby had no lores built and low money at the time.

There's never enough dryads to dispel them all, one by one youd watch your army exhaust all its mana, and tax your moonwells. Factor in the shorter range and unarmoured typing against skeletal mages piercing damage and wagons siege, it's just not worth it

Necro summon is far more mana efficient than dryads. They also take extra damage from Meat Wagons and Skely Mages. You can already see in this game the UD is purposefully chasing all the Talons around with them.