yes I was wondering if anyone realised that this was not a word, but a silly thing made up. Edward was popular, after the gloomy years of Vic's reign....

Back then people believed all sorts of things so it isn't unreasonable for her to believe thats why Albert passed.

It's true that the Queen blamed the Prince of Wales for that walk in the rain causing his father's death. Actually, Albert had been in poor health for at least 2 years, and died of typhoid fever not Crohn's - neither of which has anything to do with getting cold in rain - although he probably already had Crohn's along with other chronic diseases. For various reasons, Victoria & Albert's marriage while very passionate (9 children) was not actually very happy. I think the posthumous "cult" of Albert, the Albert Memorial, the Royal Albert Hall, general Albert-worshipping, and the fact that the Queen remained in deepest mourning for nearly 40y till she died, is perhaps more plausible as a deep sense of guilt in Queen Victoria rather than grief.

Learned this from a friend in Australia. When confronted with the Camilla factor, Charles said, "I am not going to be the first prince of Wales without a mistress!"

@@johnb3289Did he really 🙄😂

​@@carey579Yep. Marriage is for duty; mistresses are the compensation. Aristocrats are well known for bed hopping within their social circle. I believe that Princess Anne has a fling with Andrew Parker Bowles before he married Camilla. Prince William has allegedly had an affair as well. The Duke of Edinburgh allegedly had several affairs.

@@dumfriesspearhead7398 I know and Charles may well have said that but I'm always sceptical of these anecdotal quotes which are so perfect that they sound made up by creative dramatic minds :)

@@carey579 It does sound rather dramatic🎭🎭🎭🎭 🙂🙂🙂but it probably reflects Prince Charles's attitude at the time.

That's the story I heard too - the ultimate in wifely kindness. Still, kind stories don't get clicks. 😞

Thankyou for your comment. It is correct. Always knew the story,she was invited.

She had to play by the rules of this man’s world. Doubt Edward would invite his wife’s lover - there isn’t even a derogatory term for a male version - if it was the other way around,

@@carey579 There is a derogatory word - cuckold - for a man whose wife cheats, but not for a woman whose husband cheats. Funny how much language can tell you about society! (Sorry, not really funny.)

Wow I stand corrected - there is a feminine equivalent of cuckold - it's cuckquean! Who knew?

There’s no proof that he did not catch an STD.

Just like there's no proof he had a STD ​@@glancycorner7425

People often forget that Edward shaped the alliance with France that brought Britain into WW1. Edward saw the threat of German Naval Bases in the Channel Ports, and just how ambitious the Kaiser was.

@@thehowlingmisogynist9871 The Kaiser was his own nephew, out of his eldest sister Vicky.

I beg to differ. Some (including his own adult children) found his personality loud and over-bearing, not everyone who knew him was a fan!

A British King, you fool.

Great grand mother not Great great grand son.

OMG that mistress is Camilla’s great great grandmother ?! How is that possible ? Man j got to look into that . What a wish washy

@@margritpiepes8242 she great grand mother not Great great grand mother

Intergenerational sin. By that time the Puritans and their views were long gone to America where that is still frowned upon.

Queen Camilla is Queen Camilla, no quotation marks apply. Like it or not it is so, by law.

Why has no one ever mentioned that Queen Victoria hated the “Kensington System” and yet that is exactly what she and Albert did to the future Edward VII?

@@user-fl3im1qy2o I disagree!

@@wardarcade7452 Why?

@@user-fl3im1qy2o Because Victoria and Albert were trying to teach him to be as scholarly a monarch as possible via strict education so he could be an informed and knowledgeable leader whereas the Duchess of Kent and Conroy strictly wanted Victoria to be totally dependent on them so they could rule through her. I'll grant that Bertie's parents were stricter than they should have been but they had a pragmatic instead of a draconian goal!

I guess that is true. My point is that their plan obviously failed and instead of finding a better solution, they made their son feel bad about who he was.

Queen Alexandra knew how the game was played, so did Alice Keppel. It has been that way for centuries

Valid point . Then again maybe he didn't want to end up in the Tower?😊

have you no knowledge of history?

@@glen7318 Only my fair share, Do you mean to say Bertie did his share of beheadings?😉

Yep. She loved making them but despised babies especially. What a horrid person.

If you read up a little on the "Kensington System" that her own mother tried to use on her to render young Victoria weak and entirely reliant on her mother for all support, her attitudes towards children might come into sharper focus.

@@katie7748 She didn't hate children or babies. Because she made a couple of oft repeated negative comments about them didn't equate to her hating them.

his wife did send for Alice but she didn't want to do it. however, she had promised Bertie and so she had Alice come over

I've seen that theory and I think it was noted that Edward and his nephew Kaiser Wilhelm outright hated each other because of Wilhelm's hatred of Bertie's lifestyle and Bertie disliked how horribly Wilhelm treated his mother Victoria Bertie's older sister. Wilhelm got all the bravado of being a British prince and showed nothing but contempt for British people. He also thought his uncle was supposed to walk a pace behind him because he was an Kaiser/King/Emperor and everyone was beneath him including Victoria.

@Summergirl. His force was hus wife. She was sister to the zarina in Russia and sister ti the King of Grece and the King of Denmark. She had the relation to Europe.

Not quite.... the MONEY POWERS run the world and set the agenda....certainly not the Royals, who are mere puppets.

@@williethomas5116 Sounds like Harry.

@@angelau1194 True but I think Harry blames the pomp and bravado for the death of his mother. I don't think he ever got the help he needed to really deal with her loss. It's one of those things about people not understanding mental health correctly and seeing it as a weakness.

the public liked him

This is English. Portmanteau words are permitted.

Debaucherous is a word it is described as being "of a debauched lecherous nature". Unless I am very mistaken

Pedant !

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

What are his successes? Legacy is all about achievements, service and statesmanship not womanising!!!

@@user-qe1sx8et3b ??? Uncertain of your statement .. appears rather moralistic? In the first place, Edward is responsible for the modern British monarchy. He was able to keep the crown in favour with both sides of Parliament and his personal charm was much admired universally, indeed he is accredited with keeping Europe away from War. His family relationship towards his son George is one of the kindest ever recorded and George himself regarded his father as a friend or brother in intimate closeness...thus Edward was a main architect to his sons reign. In the second place we can see how Edward held the common touch and was even when he was crown prince insisted upon showing himself up close and to his people. His smoking, jovial and kindly nature, his sense of humour and open character meant that at the start of the reign, many feared he would be a disaster but he won his critics over and his age is a tribute to him personally, especially coming from his monolithic Mother's reign. Literally The Victorian era followed at once by the Edwardian speaks volumes as to his truly great reign. You suggest his womanising was a bad thing but in the world of monarchy it often is a desirable thing because kindness can result, good humour and a gentle understanding as it did with both Charles 2 and Edward 7, both of whom were popular and well loved. So greater than your notion of statemanship is the ability to show friendly approachable character and in this Edward excelled.

He wasn't kept down by his parents - they tried to mould him into the best educated and most knowledgeable Prince of Wales ever but while intelligent, he didn't have the same capacity for voracious learning like his elder sister, the educational regime they designed for him was too much and badly affected him.

@@zzzbbbooo Generally Historians agree that he was not valued by his parents. His mother distrusted him and later blamed him for causing the death of Albert. Unlike his parents, he realised the monarchy needed a common touch and often tried to break the restrictive expectations of his Parents. He was never allowed to shine and his parents restrictions on his freedom undoubtedly caused him pain.....so I am sorry but yes he was kept down by his parents and many regarded his succession as a cause of alarm. His flourishing as Monarch thus would amaze many.

@@raymondmartin318 Moralistic? You should say A-moral which many of you seem to celebrate. Many sorrows come from this terrible lifestyle for the participants and for society itself!

His Majesty loved his grandchildren and always tried to make time for them. Unfortunately, history ONLY wants to malign a man who was horribly and abominably treated by his parents in an untenable system, much like his mother who had to suffer the Kensington system from her mother and her mother's lover.

I agree. Bertie and Alexandria also brought their own children up in an incredibly liberal way for the time. He had his faults, but was an extremely popular king who everyone liked. @@davidrubin8228

That's just weird and creepy

​@davidrubin8228 in the meantime his subjects were living in extreme poverty , children being sent down the mines , and working in cotton Mills. They were privileged and still are today .

Henry VIII .... both of you, get out of my way! I AM # 1 when it comes to sexual escapades! Remember, "I am 'Enry the 8th, I am! I am!"

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not another hold my beer comment. Say something original

The present King Charles reminds me of king Edward VII

And let's not forget George IV who had most of Bertie's vices and none of his virtues.

Interesting - thanks

Not accurate at all. Tenosynovitis is a possible side-effect of untreated syphilis, but it is not that specific. Children born with congenital syphilis can have a very shortened and deformed little finer - the Du Bois sign - which cnnot be extended in an affected way as described.

Thoroughly licentious life, NOT something to be celebrated. I wonder how much STD's were spread around as in our current era but rarely acknowledged to be epidemic as it is.

nonsense. Victoria would not allow him to do more than a social role

I thought Camila was Keppel's great granddaughter.?

from one mistress to another. oy!

like Diana nad her mother I suppose@@florinelenaradamilea

Promiscuity and charisma are trademarks of pathological narcissism. Entitlement to be promiscuous with other mens wives is a measuring contest to assure themselves and others of their superiority. Add addictions to food and gambling, and probably alcohol given the lifestyle, (and possibly other substances popular at the time), and there is a clear picture of a very impaired personality.@@MyOutsideSocks

Give me a break. People of power have always gotten whatever they want, that is how human nature works. I am sure old Bertie rogered more than a few 12 year old girls and boys in his time as most such people always do. Andrew is not the exception, he is the rule and one of the few dumb enough to get caught.

@MyOutsideSocks Many, many powerful men in American politics have destroyed their political careers through sexual misconduct. Donald Trump seems to be the only one in which his MAGA followers turn a blind eye to his serial adultery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States

Do we really believe he had enough clout or political will to achieve much at all for those who paid his board and lodgings? Or that there’s anything likeable about knowing you’re going to represent your god as head of your faith whilst repeatedly and unapologetically breaking one of its main tenets? Your generosity exceeds mine here, but I admire your link to his sexually incontinent gg grandson:).

he reigned just 10 years and did jack shit as king except reign…he had no political power, he had no clue about what was actually going on in the empire: everything that he got credited with was due to Parliament and the Prime Ministers

Did Alice Kepple conceive any children during her affair with King Edward while she was still legally married to her first husband? Perhaps, Camilla is one of King Edward's descendants. Therefore, could Queen Camilla legally claim the Throne as the sole heir after King Charles' death? If so, what a mess indeed! That might be why they are keeping it all secret about the Royal couple's alleged other son Simon Durante-Day outside of marriage. Eventually, there will be more information to come out.

...and now another Keppel mistress is sharing the throne

Charles married his mistress. Dumb that he is, he should have asked Camilla to wait for him when he had the opportunity. Had she known Charles loved her, she would have waited for him - communicate.

@@masada2828 My understanding is that Charles and Camilla did want to get married, but Charles was not allowed to do so by his parents, because Camilla had previously had another couple of boyfriends. Having been rejected, Camilla married Parker-Bowles in 1973, while Charles was on a long naval exercise, and soon afterwards had a son. They later had a daughter in 1978. Camilla and Charles resumed their relationship in the late 70s before Charles married Diana. It was not until after Diana's death that the Queen accepted the presence of Camilla. I think it is unreasonable to expect Camilla to have waited for 30 years on the off-chance that the Queen would come round to accepting her.

@@ritasouthernwood7351 what bullshit, they've been married for years and she is now Queen.

I'm sure that she must be very charming because she isn't, at all, striking. But, they both are adulterers. That is a Big no no in God's book. I realize that we are all human... Yada yada yada ... But, Charles shouldn't be king as a part of that title is defender of the faith. He isn't faithful in anything except his baser habits. He tells Christians to reframe from wishing others Merry Christmas to keep from offending "others", he always womanized with married women, even the wives of his friends, he cheated on his wife and those are all things that the defender of the faith shouldn't indulge in.

@@cwavt8849Of course, but the Anglican church was invented to let the king do whatever he wants.

As a Catholic it galls me that the English King holds on to the title: DEFENDER OF THE FAITH. Ah, well, if it makes him feel better, let him have it 😂😢😇

@@michaelburgess6556 Kind of like the Pope, it's now more of an honorarium 💔

@@dragonmartijn Actually, the movement to reform the Catholic Church of ad been around for awhile. And it Certainly needed reforming! The lecherous king simply used that "reformation" as an excuse to kick out his dissenters within the church and replace them with yes-men. The Reformed Church doesn't agree with divorce either

They are all shaggers. Back to the very beginning!😂

And Charles the tampon.

dont be silly. Viritually All Monarchs have been unfaithful husbands

We've all been there. I don't think it precludes him from being a cool guy.

It wasn't Edward who shot the ponies.

It was the women's husband that shot ponies not Edward

Poor innocent animals. Disgusting.

Indeed! Anybody who would do such a vile, callous abusive thing is a dirty rotter.

Please he is a puppet of the WEF and the criminal corporate Zionist minority!!!!

Sounds like David Tennant.

there is no such word.

Weird takeaway obese with emphesema and congestive heart failure. If he was content why was he so compulsive? This is like a child in a sweet shop ideal level of emotional maturity.

I'm happy for him, that at least towards the end of his life he was able to be happy and was loved by the people.

That's not what the addiction model says but...

Very human desires? I dont think every guy wants 55 mistresses and who knows how many unnamed f*@ks in his life...?

At least she got to be queen. Lol

Suc a shame fir William & Harry to watch the cheaters who put their mother in the situation hat killed her....to watch them be crowned most have been awful.

was the son of king ed 7 gay ? the video spoke of Male prostitution.

was the whole diana camilla thing a cover up for something else or maybe in parallel with it.

I like how so many people talk about Charles straying with Camilla but they never say a bad word about Diana and the many many men she screwed around with.

@michaelrogers2080 They must be pretty ancient by now!

Good Queen Vee wasn't crazy.

It does indeed sound ludicrous, but I am not sure you can describe it as ungrammatical.

In Canada quite a number of pubs are named after him as well.

What you say is true. Even as a Yank I had enough sense to admire her. That said I always felt sort of bad for her because as.practical matter, she had very little free choice about what she was going to DO in her life.

This is an example of a monarch. They have that right to become an example of a faithful and loyal servant to their country. To be the best servant a country is capable of producing as a citizen. Their standards are expected to be very high. At any time a monarch can abdicate if they so choose. We actually as civilians should do the same thing when we work as servants in our workplace. Thank You Elizabeth for your comment.@@elizabethsohler6516

you shouldn't fear god, you should respect him but not fear him

@@user-sv7fd6es6s Do you read the word of God? It says the beginning of wisdom is to fear God. Would you jump out of an aircraft without a parachute? Of course not. It is because you fear the consequences of what would happen. It is there to protect you. So you need that fear to be protected. Jesus spoke on hell as well as he spoke about heaven. He appeared in my home in the spring of 2021. So he really exists. It is why I spend my time warning people. Just like I would warn someone about skating on a thin pond. The bible warns us that when we stand before him in the end. We will have no excuse. Just like your car is the evidence of someone creating a car. The world, animals, the earth and universe is the evidence of another creator. All of this did not just puff into existence. Scripture reminds us that it is appointed unto man once to die then the judgements. God provided a manual (bible) and a Pastor to help you understand he exists.

@@user-sv7fd6es6s "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." It is biblical. Fear in the sense of reverence, hating evil as He does, including sexual sins which is to protect us from the ultimate consequences.

well said Barbara!

She might have married her cousin George, who was born and educated in the UK. That would probably have been a lot better for all concerned. But for some reason she preferred Albert. Or maybe _dearest_ Uncle Leopold gently pushed her in Albert's direction. Albert was his nephew after all. It's all pretty tragic really. Albert's mother (to whom he was devoted) was banished from their home after his dad found out she had a lover. Albert and his brother never even had the chance to say goodbye to her. And Victoria as a young girl was full of fun, loved dancing and laughing. But dearest Albert soon changed all that 'frivolity' and turned her into as cold a prude as he was himself.

She did. Queen Alexandra and Mrs. Kepple were actually very friendly - as was Queen Alexandra with Lily Langtree, another of Edward's many lady friends. Difficult to accept at first, Alexandra came to accept Edward's affairs - especially when the ladies in question respected the social conventions and norms and maintained the facade required. Alexandra even went out of her way to receive both of them socially, and supported Langtree's career when she was first making her way as an actress. Say what you like about "Edward the Caresser", but Queen Alexandra was a classy lady.

They were not all that friendly. ALix liked Lily Langtry but she did not like Alice Keppel much@@jhb1493

Thanks, I did not know that.

Amen!!

Power & privilege corrupts. Absolute power & privilege corrupts absolutely. They are victims of their own folly and foolishness. Eventually they will destroy themselves on their own. People get fed up with their excesses and abuse of others. It is already happening with the British Royal Family. Many of the former commonwealth countries are starting the process to dump them as their head of state for good reasons.

Of course they are human. We are all human. But it's far better to be a kind, warmhearted and generous person with many mistresses like Bertie, than to be cruel, stern and cold like Albert and Victoria.

what s the difference betwen the 2

The United Kingdom is made up of four countries of which England is only one. Where you see this written instantly tells you the writer has a poor grasp of the subject at hand unless it is referring to events before the Union of the Crowns. @@bahr-pq4uo

@@bahr-pq4uo 'England' is not a sovereign country and has not been since 1707. England is merely one of the home nations within the United Kingdom. In fact, officially England is not even a country, as it has no parliament or first minister of its own (unlike Scotland and Wales).

how exactly? Since Charles has spent most of his working life trying to create jobs and help others

I haven’t read a ton of material on the subject but what I’ve read indicates that for most aristocratic women (eligible to marry a king or prince) it was common to be raised to expect him to have affairs. The training for the girls would be how to “manage” the lovers so as to avoid scandal/embarrassment.

​@@wleighkst1671I would say you're correct historically, but still in the modern times-either from generational wisdom or innate practical common sense, there are women today who tolerate/practice this "royal" acceptance in their marriage.

@@smorgasbroad1132 agreed but from what I garnered it was almost part of a young aristocratic woman’s lessons from her mother/governess. Perhaps it is still and I am simply unaware but I don’t believe it is. I think each woman chose how they dealt/deal with it today even. Maybe “a more formal acceptance” then compared to now. (Or I’m just not aristocratic enough to know) 😉😁❤️

@@wleighkst1671 I've considered in these situations maybe the wife only wants to do it 2 X',s a month and she's happy and knows if he doesn't do it more often he's not going to be happy. With affairs scandals are avoided. Yoko Ono hooked John Lennon up with May Ping for a while.

@@wleighkst1671 So Camilla was trained in School serving a gentleman - aristocratic, that why she was moving around upper class partying closer to RF activities. In her family Alis Keppel was direction in their life also Camilla inherited from AK money. It was pure Camilla's acting to get Charles, she been asking some ,,friends,, how to get access to him..rest she just sad about gr.gr.parents lovers and added - HOW about us?

Like Diana's mum.

A life well lived?… hardly!

@@bobwishart8780 Beloved by his subjects but lived a very full and fun life. An "absolute legend" to use modern parlance!

​@@TJH1I agree

Nobody is above the law. You still have to answer to God. Good luck with that!

@@Hi-Phi I don't grovel to any dark-ages sky-wizard delusion so good on that front.