FAD Delete for the Jeep JL
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4 жыл бұрын#FADSareDUMB
The FAD (front axle disconnect) is the most hated part on this Jeep to me. More systems to wad through, more things to go wrong. Its much simpler to just delete the entire thing. Its pretty simple to do just requires a few extra parts.
1. need to replace your font axle shaft from a 2 piece, to a 1 piece.
2. using a reprogrammer to delete the FAD software from the computer system.
3. remove the motor entirely and use a delete plate in its place.
Unfortunately, deleting the FAD won't add strength to your axle, but will gain you additional clearance off-road, make that front LCA lower, passenger bolt easier to access and eliminate any 4x4 failure over the FAD not functioning as designed!
find the products used in this video here!
DELETE PLATE
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Dana 44 RCV 1piece
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reprogrammer
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@brianpatrickcork4513 4 жыл бұрын
I admire fellows like this that genuinely understand the mechanics, engineering, nature, and utilization of Wranglers (and other related mechanized things).
@c130aviator 4 жыл бұрын
Then check my page out please. Let me know what you think. m.kzfaq.info
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear u enjoy the channel my friend! 🙌 hope I can teach u something at some point as well 🤷♂️ rock on!!
@c130aviator 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD you have taught me a bunch of stuff brother. Keep doing you mo!
@johnscanlon9117 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. You keep it simple in the explanation department. Have a request. Could you possibly do a video on replacing/extending the transfer case breather tube on a 3.6L automatic JL? I can't seem to find one anywhere on the internet. TIA
@Legacy4x4andOffRoadYT 4 жыл бұрын
Man, y'alls garage is about full with all those tools! nice!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Been investing in tools lately. Time to make my life easier lol
@Legacy4x4andOffRoadYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD i feeeeeel that
@MrDougGreen 2 жыл бұрын
Can a JK axle shaft be used as a replacement for the 2pc axle shaft?
@shanenitzsche463 5 ай бұрын
enjoy the videos !!!! i have a 2023 jeep rubicon 3.0 diesel i wish someone can do a video on how to unplug the egr ..... confusing as hell def doing the fab delete as well
@johngervasi745 2 жыл бұрын
Came across your page and really enjoy your info (Jeep Newbie here). Noticed the Zia in your logo. If you are in NM, howdy partner from Albuquerque.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 2 жыл бұрын
👋👋 burqueno!
@ctascmercdoc 4 жыл бұрын
Does the kit come with a block off for the FAD connector? I would hate to be in water and the 12v + short and cause 4wd issues. Or does that get disabled with the Tazer mini?
@alexeychulkov3378 3 ай бұрын
Hi! Great video, thanks! Do you know if Tazer will be able to delete FAD on the Wrangler JL with a clutch type T-Case, which is not mechanical and controlled by computer? Seems like Jscan is struggling to do it - computer still wants FAD to engage 4wd, although serv 4wd warning is killed.
@ShockWaveOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual, bro. Not decided whether I'll do this or not, yet. We'll see how it goes.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Only for serious off roaders... u will be fine 😂
@ShockWaveOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Bruh.....😳😳🙄🙄 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕🏻
@dcsoccerplaya 2 жыл бұрын
The grunts when tightening the FAD delete plate bolts, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Excellent video!
@jaycrane761 5 ай бұрын
Question what did you do with plug you removed from the fad? I just taped mine up to it self and left it. but I am always worried about the water coming in from water crossings and such thanks for the video and keep it up sir!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 5 ай бұрын
I taped it off as u described
@EmiratiAuto 3 жыл бұрын
only the JL Rubicon model have Front Axle Disconnect ? or its also available on the sport and Sahara ?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 3 жыл бұрын
All models have the FAD
@kylependley 4 жыл бұрын
What about pinion angle? Wouldn’t going too far with your caster give you a negative pinion angle causing drive shaft bind?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
If u go crazy with the caster, yes. I have mine around 5.8ish I few Thts a great medium ground. Iv seen some crazies pull their caster to 7.5. 😬 Those peeps really should be cutting and welding on different brackets to accommodate tht crazy angle.
@Fit4Life921 Жыл бұрын
how are your driveline vibrations on highway with solid front axle shafts/FAD delete?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD Жыл бұрын
Non existent.
@yipeeiaye 4 жыл бұрын
"Do you need to do this?! - Of course not" Every conversation I have with my wife about Jeep things lol
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao. It’s to make it better!
@rickbarmore1167 4 жыл бұрын
It ain't nothing but a FAD anyways. Nice job and of course, great illustrations!!!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
I hope so... next thing I wanna do is delete the 2nd battery 😒
@671JK 2 жыл бұрын
Informative, thank you. Did you remove the fad harness or just left it hanging there?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 2 жыл бұрын
I zip tied it up and out of the way
@LarryRichelli 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a new rubicon today so I don't need locking hubs right now because this thing is unlocking my axle. Right?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, u don’t need locking hubs with the Jl, it does it automatically for you. I rather have the hubs… just a wish list is all
@WranglerAddiction 4 жыл бұрын
My tazer doesn't have that feature i went with the basic one 😒 but the new axle got the metalcloak FAD skid plate so that helps a little bit lol
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Well im 90% sure u can always upload the premium software onto it if you pay the difference?????
@WranglerAddiction 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD that will awesome if i can do that
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
🤷♂️
@t-roy1605 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get your hoodie?
@michaelmurray2592 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Venom-kq5xz 4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if superchips has something like the tazer tuner? Otherwise awesome explanation for this delete and install!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
They should... u would just need to hook it up to a computer and update. I switched to taser because it had a lot more options... superchip has since been adding the same stuff. Superchip actually pats taser a license fee for each unit they sell.
@Venom-kq5xz 4 жыл бұрын
JL LIFE OFFROAD didn’t know that about the tuners. I know I had my initial issues with my TD2 from superchips but I imagine I’d have to call them about how to change the tune too delete the FAD. Still need to call them to delete my rear sensors alert since my Poison Spyder bumper didn’t have any placement for the sensors.
@supercharged00gtp 4 жыл бұрын
With the twist of the axle what does that do to your pinion angle, any potential issues there?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Depends how far u go. Stock it’s around 4ish.... Iv pushes mine out to about 5.8ish. Some crazy people push it out to past 7. It’s a balancing act thou.
@JustinKingOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
been thinking about picking up adjustable arms and giving my jeep some more caster. damn thing has wandered all over the place from day 1, the mopar 2 inch lift is doing ok, but it's tiring to drive...that moab trip for 7 hours of highway... geesh. also thinking about trading it in on a bronco lol!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Im not a fan with the IFS. Im more so trying to figure out how im gonna strip all my upgrades on bromance so I can get the semi JL. Yes adding some caster will help the wondering The mopar lift is another WTF kit by FCA. actually what im making the video on this week
@JustinKingOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I'll be watching!!
@JustinKingOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD oh i was also planning to just run the mopar lift until i noticed some play/death wobble. but so far it's held up to my shenanigans.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Lol not on mine.
@JustinKingOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD well... You kinda go hard lolol!!!!
@bigskimeisterful 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the desert and low hanging fruit is a pet peeve. I guarantee that I can find the fruit and rip something open. I’m looking at the Fad skids by Metal Cloak. I now have a better understanding of its crappy placement. Huge fan of your non know it all attitude. And your helper. Makes me laugh. My wife isn’t getting within 100 yards of me in my garage. 20 JLUR Diesel Great White Bread
@Highcups 3 жыл бұрын
What should I torque the 4 plate cover bolts to?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 3 жыл бұрын
Im not to sure, I went snug on it.... being smaller bolts, they don't need a ton.
@cooters3756 2 жыл бұрын
In the video you show a 1 piece shaft with a u joint, the link and all I can find from RCV are cv axles. Where did you get the 1 piece shaft? I would like to eliminate the Fad but not go all the way to RCV's
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 2 жыл бұрын
Rcv only does CV joints.. if your looking for a u joint… I’d check into dana
@cooters3756 2 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD the one you show in your video? Who makes that axle? It's not RCV that was my question
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the stock axles in the video, but upgraded our sport to the dana spicer axles
@ChasingDreamsLivingLife Жыл бұрын
So what do you use for your locker now? Air locker or E locker? Without the FAD, elocker wouldn’t work??
@JLLIFEOFFROAD Жыл бұрын
Stock e lockers
@ChasingDreamsLivingLife Жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD so the ELocker has nothing to do with the FAD then?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD Жыл бұрын
No
@danielmelton5573 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. You gonna try to push 40s on the 44s? I know a few people doin it just waiting to see long term effects before I go down that road.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly, we will see how things progress... being a daily, im still not %100 sold on 40s
@street_legal_go_kart7356 4 жыл бұрын
If u want 40's going to need axel swap no free lunch . Even rock jock 44 and pro rock 44 are max rated at 37's do u really thank stock was built for 37's ? Every body wants big boy tires but not cash. To up grade to big parts .
@80smxpro41 4 жыл бұрын
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 Him and Misty have both done a lot of axel upgrades. Pretty sure the only thing he could do to improve is going to tons.
@jasondevereaux3369 4 жыл бұрын
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 you dont NEED to do anything. There are some really light weight 37" tires out there. Even Jk's can run them with the older 44. I've had a set of heavy wheels and 33s that weigh as much as my wheels and 37s now. So as far as NEED goes....I believe you're mistaken. Go check out Ben Antons channel...he could use your EXPERT help👌👌👌👍👍
@street_legal_go_kart7356 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasondevereaux3369 lol many jks have bent tubes or c's axels seals and adjustable ball joins shows someitns not right. Many bend on 35's but sure what ever helps u sleep . I may not be an expert . But been in game long time . And pay attention.
@brianmooney6836 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sir, Did you notice any drag on the motor on yours or Heathens (Ud44) I upgrade the a UD44 and I certainly feel it at 65-70 MPH
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 2 жыл бұрын
Adding any significant weight to the jeep will be felt. The best way to counter it, is either making it lighter, or regearing. I’m assuming drag = sluggish/slow
@brianmooney6836 2 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Yeah I went 4.88 UD and Rubicon rear.
@jdsrcs8061 4 жыл бұрын
FAD!!! The artist formally known as CAD!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 My YJ has it but I have the cable actuator so I don't have to worry about it not engaging
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
I hate the week spot it creates, I hate where the axle seal is, I hate it prevents sleeving the tubes. LOL I know its not new technology, but feel Jeep missed a killer opportunity to install locking hubs on at least the rubicon axles
@jdsrcs8061 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I agree!!! Rubies need the beef!!!
@randyrathbun2731 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any vibration driving on the street daily? I'm looking at this as an option .
@JLLIFEOFFROAD Жыл бұрын
No sir, no vibrations when I deletednit
@JLLIFEOFFROAD Жыл бұрын
No sir, no vibrations when I deleted it
@TheVtecdelsol 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah more video :-) thank you
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, thank you for finding time to watch!
@80smxpro41 4 жыл бұрын
So how are you liking the new 37? I've been trying to get ahold of Milestar for probably 6 weeks for a new set of tires and no one replies to emails or answers their phone.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Iv been very happy with mine... they still gripping great offroad.. handling great on... I did have a slight tire vibration after Socorro... but it seems to have gone away at this point 🤷♂️
@paulochun 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice any lower mpg??
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
yes like .3-.5 lower, not much
@c130aviator 4 жыл бұрын
Did you reservice the axle with the oil that came out during disassembly?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
I actually did an oil change a week or two after this video
@c130aviator 4 жыл бұрын
How does the oil get from the housing to the axle on that side. I only put in 1.5 quarts and it was full.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
The inner seal is on the outside of the fad.
@c130aviator 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD how many qts did you use.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Wanna say 2 or maybe 1.75 quarts...
@asp1345 3 жыл бұрын
Does all JL have this or is it a Rubicon thing only?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a JL thing 👎👎👎
@80smxpro41 4 жыл бұрын
Back when you still had those sweet ass tires. LMAO!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 I just can’t get away from them! 😂😂😂
@guylongley1573 4 жыл бұрын
Love show and tell. Now know more excuses when you get hung up. Lol😂
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHHA ill always have an excuse bro XD
@dustingibson2407 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. What do you think that you are running for caster?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
its around 5.7 -5.9 thanks for watching friend
@mcoffroadinaz4075 4 жыл бұрын
Truss time!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
yeeeesssss sir
@xmo552 4 жыл бұрын
Woohoo (3rd) that's ok I usually need someone to loosen it up for me
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
(face palm) LOL
@jkustockaphobia2421 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao that’s funny
@xmo552 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@johnradan8867 2 жыл бұрын
OK Now I get it.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@JonabqAlbuquerque 3 жыл бұрын
With out the FAD how to you engage and disengage the front axel from turning in 2H the differential? Did you install hub lockers?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 3 жыл бұрын
Solid axles, so they are always spinning… I’m hoping a company makes a conversion kit to install locking hubs. But until then…
@clyderhoads 4 жыл бұрын
Your shirt says “Rub Con”. What kind of convention is that? 😂🤷🏼♂️
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 the fun kind 😉😂😘
@maxturgidson568 Жыл бұрын
I think people forget locking hubs. For enthusiasts…. Sure. But they broke like crazy. Required maintenance… (taking apart and cleaning and greasing and sealing) and for most people that had a 4x4 for winter or occasional use, they were corroded or frozen and couldn’t be turned. When they needed to be. We… the people that grew up with turn in hubs, kinda demanded something different as 4x4s became more common and reached a broader market. For better or worse. I think for the non enthusiast, we’re better off without manual hubs. Hubs used to be a common spare. Always had hubs and tools and grease and seals for when a hub grenaded.
@Mickale-Moranis 4 жыл бұрын
Funny...compare this FAD of the JL to the CAD of the YJ....YJ is done by vacuum and its aftermarket upgrade is a cable actuator. Similar to the JL upgrade to a single shaft, YJ can use a ZJ, TJ, XJ single inner shaft. However, when the YJ goes to the single inner shaft, an axle shaft seal has to be placed in the differential ear of the tube. JLs doesn't, just use the proper shaft with the machined point in the middle of the shaft for the axle seal.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with the fad is the weak spot it makes in the housing.. I’m more concerned and tweaking the housing then i am the fad not functioning.... By far the biggest ‘hate’ I have on my Jeep
@Mickale-Moranis 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I can see that especially with the many JK tube cracks in that area. Do you know if its cast or steel housing? There will be trusses made to weld over and into it soon enough.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Moran it’s cast steel... and artec makes a truss for it already...
@TheVtecdelsol 4 жыл бұрын
Yo! What’s up Mo!
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
my man, hope your staying safe
@TheDiesel_JLU Жыл бұрын
Dodge had this in the 80s with the CAD. Horrible idea, Locking Hubs swap the world
@jasondevereaux3369 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think the front axle disconnect will stick around for future models, or is it just a FAD???!!😆😆😅🤣😂 one win for the jk👍👍
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
I hope not, dumbest thing by far on the JL, funny guy with ur killer dad jokes lol
@jasondevereaux3369 4 жыл бұрын
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD fuckin kids
@jkustockaphobia2421 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha ha good one
@jasondevereaux3369 4 жыл бұрын
@@jkustockaphobia2421 I see SOMEBODY appreciates good humor. 😅😅
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
🤮
@jwingo7257 4 жыл бұрын
Gimmicky push button FAD. Old school locking hubs. KISS 💋Keep it simply stupid.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... delete as many of these ‘smart’ systems as you can.... only makes trouble shooting harder.
@rockhumper8843 4 жыл бұрын
Yee haw
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
eff the fad man, piece of garbage
@rockhumper8843 4 жыл бұрын
JL LIFE OFFROAD picture of you hucking it is priceless
@Pigpen76 4 жыл бұрын
damn $30 and they dont even powder coat it?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
U can always cut ur own 🤷♂️
@hypnotiqpits13 3 жыл бұрын
why would you change your caster? the jeep would handle like shit. if you lift the jeep you adjust your arms not change your caster. Adjusting the arms keeps your axle "pitched" to a factory caster setting. I cant see why you would rotate your axle backwards
@street_legal_go_kart7356 4 жыл бұрын
Why not just swap to stronger axel that does not have that weak point in tube and avoid all that work ?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Simple answer... I swapped in the rcvs about 1.5 years ago... already had the taser reprogrammer the plate only cost $30 and about 30 minutes of my time. I don’t see why I wouldn’t do it.
@yogi5835 4 жыл бұрын
woohoo 1st
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
🎉 WOOT WOOT!
@yogi5835 4 жыл бұрын
OK now I have some more time. Great video Mo as always. So here is a question that has me Baffled, so seems like a lot of people are adding more caster for I guess better steering or ride? That like you said turns the FAD downward, but doesn’t it also turn the pinion angle down, in turn putting more strain on the U joints? Back in the day when we lifted, we turn the axle (pinion) upward to decrease the angle, Relieving stress on the U joints. so what am I missing here? Unless you are going to Rotate the axle tubes in the differential to give you more caster. Your Solving one problem but creating another. But maybe I am wrong. Again thanks for the great video. Love Ya. Take care and tell Missy we are missing her jokes.
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Yes... some people are running 7+ on caster. Which is just insane to me. I run 5.7ish The more caster.. the more effed u will make ur opinion angle.. I think it’s a good middle ground where I have mine and am happy with it... the other way to fix it is to cut off the brackets and re weld them on to allow more caster.
@inverted311 4 жыл бұрын
Using the word “Yeet” is kinda a fad isn’t it?
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Meh, delete and throw away, didn’t have the same ring 😂😂😂
@inverted311 4 жыл бұрын
JL LIFE OFFROAD 🇺🇸🇺🇸🤙🤙
@cathleenaustin7128 4 жыл бұрын
wohoo sloppy seconds
@JLLIFEOFFROAD 4 жыл бұрын
Your still appreciated ;) LOL!
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