Fairbanks Morse op

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dzlrod

dzlrod

12 жыл бұрын

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@gadget73
@gadget73 11 жыл бұрын
This is how equipment should look. Clean, shiny, properly maintained, and ready to run whenever its needed. Nice clean machine room you have there.
@johnsalmon1792
@johnsalmon1792 7 жыл бұрын
gadget73 Worked as engineer in charge of two of these babies as propulsion engines on a small east coast/Great Lakes tanker....lovely engines on the run...but, after each transit of the Welland canal , had to stop and clean scavenge spaces & ports, to prevent scavenge fires...not good on a vessel with 50k barrels of gasoline aboard !!!!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
it could burn off its lube oil for fuel, low ash oil burnoff
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnsalmon1792 you were running gas in these op 2 strokes, wow how did that work?
@scotty2307
@scotty2307 11 жыл бұрын
Got ta love Fairbanks Morse. They have been at it for a long time and they know how to make great, long running engines.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
trident FBOP is bigger todat with over 5500 hp
@johnwhite4795
@johnwhite4795 3 жыл бұрын
Had these on Navy ytb tugs in the late 70-early 80's. San Diego and Midway Island. Chief engineer at both billets.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
What 2 stroke oil did they run with? Now I’m thinking about a Polaris 1700 OP made from 2 850 patriot turbo engines and lay it down in the 2023 khaos with silber turbos. Achates power should get in on this. I’m running BRP XD-200 6 gallons on my 8v92 2 stroke turbo.
@MrMikey4026
@MrMikey4026 Жыл бұрын
A sweet sound from my past. Last time I heard one was over 45 years ago.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
Where does the 2 stroke oil go on this thing.
@armcchargues8623
@armcchargues8623 Жыл бұрын
@@jlo13800 no two stroke oil. Normal pressurized lube oil system. It has no valves, only ports in the cylinder walls with a blower to push the air through the cylinders.. Opposed pistons, two crankshafts one on the top and bottom. They are geared together for a single output. The boat I was on in the Navy had a 6 cylinder version of this engine and it turned a 650 KW generator.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
@@armcchargues8623 I been running BRP XD-100 in my 8v92 detroit 2 stroke turbo for some time now, i plumed some off the gerar internal VRO pump and gradually blend it with the fuel then i fill it up with more. Its the 2 stroke oil synthetic burns real clean and she runs good and a bit cooler.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
@@armcchargues8623 The 850 Rotax Etec turbo skidoos have a pressurized oil system feed now.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
@@armcchargues8623 avocado oil makes an great 2 stroke engine oil, would work fine in a 38 8 and 1/8
@douro20
@douro20 2 жыл бұрын
There are still lots of these engines in use in nuclear plants across the US. They treat them like aircraft.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 6 жыл бұрын
Are they running total loss lubrication burn off?
@jlrliriano
@jlrliriano 4 жыл бұрын
Here I can see it again, this generation plant is a majesty, I feel nostalgic to hear its sound 😢 I worked as an electrician and when the electricity service failed we had to put this fairbanks into operation, this plant that I mention is in perfect operation in the brewery Vegana, La Vega, Dominican Republic 🇩🇴
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
What oil are you using, sae 40 low ash or TCW3? I thought of using xd-100/klots technipplr r50 for my 8v92 but its too darn expensive. i just got shell rotella with 2 gallons of quikcksilver sythetic tcw3 from walmart for my 8v92 silver detroit jimmy and im satisfied with the results. This OP 2 stroke methons could be applied to the sled, dirtbike and jetski market as well. Imagine taking 2 kx500 motora and building an OP 2 stroke for a custom kx100 op 2 stroke dirtbike. How about a 1700cc made from 2 850 rotax ETEC's? for a sick trail sled with lots of torque. Also big twin harley has lots of room to cut any port pattern you want for a serios street cruiser 2 stroke! here a SPC chevy 2 stroke:www.4btswaps.com/attachments/2cyclesbc-jpg.6839/
@enterBJ40
@enterBJ40 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Is possible to take a tour in order to watch it work?
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
a full blown alcohol OP 2 stroke
@patrickcraig6032
@patrickcraig6032 2 жыл бұрын
Piston and liner change is fun as is cleaning air boxes.
@DG19075
@DG19075 7 жыл бұрын
...And to think the Soviets used a pre-WW2 version of this as the model for the Kharkov 10D100 locomotive engines. Look for the 2-or 3TE locomotive videos. Looks like the Russians just run them into the ground with smoke an leaks shown in some of the videos.
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 5 жыл бұрын
and lots of flaming locos too.
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 6 жыл бұрын
sounds nice
@Tremolux59
@Tremolux59 10 жыл бұрын
My Dad's navy ship from WW2 was powered by FM OP engines.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 жыл бұрын
What is the best 2 stroke rated oil for these? I heard synthetic silkolene pro 2 sx was best but it’s not cheap. This is a straight 40w clean burning synthetic 2 cycle oil with high film strength. DFI op 2 strokes run hotter like most DFI 2 strokes
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
they can run on the lube oil blended with the fuel for total loss
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
these are a giant snowmobile engine on streoids with mind boggling torque!
@Tremolux59
@Tremolux59 3 жыл бұрын
Bruce Miller no man. These are not at all like cheap simple loop charged gas lawnmower and chainsaw engines. These are like a uniflow engine. They have pressurized oil systems like a 4 stroke. They have a supercharger on the intake air for induction. If you want to see the absolute ultimate gasoline 2 stroke, Google the Rolls Royce Creacy. Too bad they never finished development and the 10 prototypes were scrapped. Goal was 5000 HP. Supposedly the loudest exhaust of any engine ever.
@JNedoCT
@JNedoCT 2 жыл бұрын
"Prepare to snorkle"
@damiancameron3614
@damiancameron3614 10 ай бұрын
what phone did you use to record the video? also where was this?
@jimh8931
@jimh8931 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful engines....miss working on them!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry the trident OP 2 str4oke is here at well over 8000hp and total loss lubrication, The OP 2 stroke never went away, Hehe its more powerful than than ever, but not as much power per CID as a jumo junker though
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
I just got 7 gallons of klotz techniplate synthetic 2 stroke oil for my 8v92 detroit, boy does it run smooth and clean, its the same 2 stroke oil motorcross racers use but its SAE40W high film strength clean burning. I swear buy iit and it far surpasses shell rotella SAE40 as it runs much smother and cleaner, ill never go back to so called 40w 2 stroke diesel oil. Klotz rules
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
I just got a used silver 8v92 jimmy, runs great, i just got 7 gallons of klotz techniplate 2 stroke oil in her and its the best i used so far, yikes around 40 a gallon but its worth it
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
What brand of 2 stroke do these engines run or like. i had success with 6-71 2 stroke filled with semisynthetic quicksilver TCW3 as it burnt cleaner, ran better and started quicker and stayed cleaner!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
they are still made today and better than ever, introducing the New trident FB morse OP 2 strokes
@mikehermesmeglio
@mikehermesmeglio 10 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to a modern Wartsila, Man, Bergen or Mak....? I'd think they'd be more complicated to work on with the opposed piston design. What about efficiency, reliability, quietness? I haven't heard of them being used in a new installation but they are still shown as a current product on the Fairbanks Morse site.
@rileykirk11
@rileykirk11 9 жыл бұрын
mikehermesmeglio They do pretty good considering the design is 80 years old
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
These have a lot more power to weight ratio. They are snowmobile engines on steroids, lots of HP at low rpm and can take way more turbo more boost and run dry sump 2 stroke oil feed! a 4 joke is similar size would self destruct trying to make the same power per CID at these low revs. today's 4 joke stroke is disposible1
@calvinlawrence3287
@calvinlawrence3287 3 жыл бұрын
The Fairbanks OP Engine is still used as the emergency generator set on Nuclear Subs.
@lordtyler70
@lordtyler70 Жыл бұрын
FM offers them in a dual fuel setup these days for stdby and main power generation. They even have an electronically controlled version that reportedly meets emission standards. As far as maintenance goes major OH is around 100k hours which is only reason you would normally remove the upper crank. All other maintenance is easy access from outside the case. I had one with over 100k hours moderately maintained and on inspection still had cross hatch on the liners.
@mikehermesmeglio
@mikehermesmeglio Жыл бұрын
@@lordtyler70 Wow! Thank you.
@michaeloboyle9641
@michaeloboyle9641 11 жыл бұрын
I think that's inside the naval training center for enginemen.
@spartin86
@spartin86 7 жыл бұрын
Thats correct, Im here now in Groton AUX "A" school. We are learning about them . 38ND 8 1/8
@thomasatchley3876
@thomasatchley3876 6 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I was thinking, I graduated from the one in great lakes.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
800 gallons of motul 800 2t here with rigged up oil injection, nice big sled motors on steroids!
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 5 жыл бұрын
I love the simplicity of these 2 stroke engines, but is there any modern technology to avoid total loss lubrication and the associated emissions.? Clinic or machine room? Beautiful.!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
What wrong with total loss lubrication you idiot, sorry to be mean but thats what i love, Harley 1600 converted to uniflow 2 stroke with dry sump and oil injection< i got an 8v92 that burns more oil than you can think about and that the way it should be, Total loss oil burn off in the american way, convert a harlery 1+600v-twin to dry sump and oil in jection. Total loss is the oil injection burn of is about american freedom!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
God damn my gilrfreinfsd rx-7 and her total loss oil injection at 40:1. My OMC rotary runs the same and a v-twin converted to 2 stroke burns less, OMG my 8v92 burns a gallon a day and a fairbanks morse OP submarine 2 stroke generator burns more oil than you can imagine. total loss lubrication is the American way, i have to except it 440 dodge converted to poppet valved 2 stroke with oil injection! Ugh i love it
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with total loss lubrication as i like it better, i just got 7 gallons of klotz synthetic 2 stroke techniplate for my 8v92 and i swear by it. I worked on a dive boat that had 8v71 generators that were rigged with total loss oil burn-off and the detroit 2 stroke always had a clean oil supply. The chief engineer did this with less than 50$ worth of parts! the 8v71's could work on shell rotella SAE40 to quicksilver TCW3 2 stroke synthetic, we ran both and the quicksilver synthetic TCW3 was a much better oil over all but more expensive. Long live total loss oil burn-off.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
WTF is your problem with total loss, i love it but its just me, burn it off when you can, HEHE
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with total loss burn off, if its a biodegrade oil it should be fine. The oil is burned off and there is no waste oil to get rid of, There where some geman diesels like duetz, sachs, JLO and stihl that had separate oil tanks that fed oil into them and burned it up.
@bvbobbyblue
@bvbobbyblue 3 жыл бұрын
I run these engine all right I love the sound😌
@pabloescobar3331
@pabloescobar3331 3 жыл бұрын
An oil and gas producer here in TX took a whole bunch of these back in the 80’s and converted them over to natural gas fuel, installed spark ignition systems and used them to drive reciprocating gas compressors. They were a MF to work on but were ground rumbling bastards when they loaded up.
@lordtyler70
@lordtyler70 5 жыл бұрын
Ran a few of these on tugs back in the day, gotta say there isn't a more bulletproof powerplant out there. Properly maintained, heck even moderately maintained, these engines put out more power than any other. Just a wonderful design, too bad it couldn't survive emissions standards.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
The Trident Fairbankns morse is the newer bigger op 2 stroke thats tier 4
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the new Trident OP 2 stroke! Its a tier 4 op 2 stroke thats scaled up for 5500hp or more.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 3 жыл бұрын
It really doesn’t matter any more what the uncontrolled emissions are. No engine cam meet current tier 4 emissions standards. They all require add-on emission controls.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
OP 2 stroke ethanol 2 stroke OP running castor 927 maxima, brapp 28000 hp tugboats with these!
@eovdubsvw8743
@eovdubsvw8743 5 жыл бұрын
She's an old style with injection pumps on both sides. I hated having to set stroke on these engines.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh i would love to run here with silkolene pro 2 sx synthetic 2 stroke sae40w, I got my detroit 8v92 filled with klotz techniplate synthetic 2 stroke racing oil, boy she love it but 7 gallons is a bit pricey!
@johnwhite4795
@johnwhite4795 3 жыл бұрын
Don't need pumps on both sides, can run 1 pump and 2 injectors on 1 side and blank off the other side.
@dmx-terminator9614
@dmx-terminator9614 5 жыл бұрын
Знакомый звук фантомаса 10д100
@ChME3_DriveR
@ChME3_DriveR Жыл бұрын
Не свистит ТК34 только)
@dmx-terminator9614
@dmx-terminator9614 Жыл бұрын
@@ChME3_DriveR Я просто написал фанатос он сильно дымит и грязный. А 2тэ116 да он свистит почему 2тэ116 прозвали боингом из-за характерного свиста турбины. И он шумит как самолет 2тэ116 когда разгоняется
@ChME3_DriveR
@ChME3_DriveR Жыл бұрын
@@dmx-terminator9614 можно подумать, что всё семейство тепловозов ТЭ10 никогда не свистят при работе ДГУ.
@ChME3_DriveR
@ChME3_DriveR Жыл бұрын
@@dmx-terminator9614 а дымит и грязь, от отсутствия нормальной культуры ремонта и отсутствия нормальных расходных материалов, запасных частей.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 6 жыл бұрын
SAE 40 low ash or klots2 cycle benoil will work fine in these engines as lube oil is fed to the fuel intakes for premix as it is burnt with the fuel.
@nojoek152
@nojoek152 3 жыл бұрын
this sort of 2 stroke doesn't need oil in the fuel....
@philbell7952
@philbell7952 3 жыл бұрын
⚓️ Great Engine ! But 2-Stroke ! Messy , air box is terrible to clean!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about a Polaris 1700 OP made from 2 850 patriot turbos and lay it down in the 2023 khaos with turbo. Here the Cummins 2 stroke op mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
@philbell7952
@philbell7952 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these Engines had Brass or Bronze Water Pumps ! @ you talk about Heavy !!
@isakjohansson7134
@isakjohansson7134 6 жыл бұрын
How much oil does it use per hour
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 жыл бұрын
A few gallons per hour ad the oil is burnt off as total loss. I heard the best oil is Silkolene pro 2 sx straight 40w synthetic. It’s more expensive but has much more film strength and burns cleaner.
@michelwazouskey4799
@michelwazouskey4799 2 жыл бұрын
it uses very little as there it is not a loss type oil system. uses as much as any other large diesel due to small piston losses.
@isakjohansson7134
@isakjohansson7134 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelwazouskey4799 I doubt that seeing it has ports where oil could get blown or sucked of the pistons
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
Rig up some VRO pumps with oil injection at tge ports but small amount do it don’t ignite too soon. Castor 927 maxima
@robajz7502
@robajz7502 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it in russian locos used? 10D100 type?
@michelwazouskey4799
@michelwazouskey4799 2 жыл бұрын
10d100 was a soviet designed version of this engine had 10 cylinders instead of 12 as seen here, 10d100 has twin turbos and twin aftercoolers to produce 3000hp at 850rpm
@xandervk2371
@xandervk2371 Жыл бұрын
10D100 was a "metricized" copy of Fairbanks Morse 38 8-1/8. These diesels were installed on some of the ships the USSR received through lend-lease.
@markbeale7390
@markbeale7390 11 ай бұрын
​@@michelwazouskey4799Intercoolers.
@michelwazouskey4799
@michelwazouskey4799 11 ай бұрын
It would be in "intercooler" if it was in between the two compression stages, however in 10d100 it was after both the turbos and the centrifugal supercharger (scavenging blower) which are in series, hence they are aftercoolers.@@markbeale7390
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 6 жыл бұрын
This could run castor 927 maxima or Klotz techniplate r50 fed to the bottom and then mixed with the fuel to burn off, I have ran xd100/canola oil in a 6-71 Detroit with no problems so far, can’t wait to try castor 927 maxima in
@michelwazouskey4799
@michelwazouskey4799 2 жыл бұрын
what is the advantage to repeatedly buying a more expensive oil that doesn't lubricate as well?
@user-tr4bk6js4q
@user-tr4bk6js4q 3 жыл бұрын
про родитель нашего 10д100
@jerrydrake4057
@jerrydrake4057 7 жыл бұрын
I work on them , and have the best work fore for meet,
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 6 жыл бұрын
does yous run total loss lubrication burn off?
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