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The Catholic Church requires you to check your brain and abandon all logic at the door, right? Actually, no. In this episode, Kai and Libby break down the different tools that the Church uses for finding different kinds of truth, and where Faith comes in.
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@MrFossil367ab45gfyth
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth 3 ай бұрын
I believe that faith and reason can coexist. You can have both.
@LedezVid
@LedezVid 5 жыл бұрын
Catholic Theology teacher here, keep up the good work!
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 5 жыл бұрын
Jorge Ledezma thank you! We will!!
@LedezVid
@LedezVid 5 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicCentralVideos finally some videos that take a holistic approach to faith and reason! And don't just adopt a siege mentality against the world.
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 5 жыл бұрын
@@LedezVid Thank you so much for noticing what we're trying to do over here!
@maryvictor1739
@maryvictor1739 2 жыл бұрын
THANK U "CATHOLIC CENTRAL" - YOU ARE DOING VERY WELL. YES, THANKS, AND MAY THE LORD BLESS U ABANDUNTLY. YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS DAILY. AMEN, SABA K.
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary Victor, we can always use prayers!
@Avoly
@Avoly 5 жыл бұрын
WE LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 5 жыл бұрын
Sweetcupcake 114 THANK YOU!!!
@veronicasingermacias
@veronicasingermacias 4 жыл бұрын
These are such amazing videos! I wish more people knew about them! God bless you and your work.
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@andieines6368
@andieines6368 5 жыл бұрын
God bless!
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 5 жыл бұрын
God bless YOU!
@Avoly
@Avoly 5 жыл бұрын
Also Kai was great in Unplanned!
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 5 жыл бұрын
We agree!
@dnlorbe
@dnlorbe 5 жыл бұрын
I learned more in this 6 minute video than I do in an hour of church. Thank you
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 5 жыл бұрын
dnlorbe we don’t consider it to be a substitute for church, but so happy to hear that you found it useful!
@dnlorbe
@dnlorbe 5 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicCentralVideos just wish my priest had the passion to teach that you guys do. Good to see Catholics who aren't so weak.
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 4 жыл бұрын
When a priest (or deacon) preaches a homily, his goal is not necessarily to teach, but to open up an aspect of the readings that pertains to your life today. That is why, as Catholics, we are urged to do some "outside reading" and to seek out those who can expand our knowledge of the faith.
@cinthiaykelly
@cinthiaykelly 4 жыл бұрын
Love it
@tahasham8823
@tahasham8823 4 жыл бұрын
me too, kelly! soooo many think you leave brains at the church door
@Camelepiz
@Camelepiz 4 жыл бұрын
Bwahaha parking in L.A. Great job, as usual.
@peterpehlivan157
@peterpehlivan157 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video :3
@Kokiri971
@Kokiri971 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting out this video--as a non-religious person, this gives me a bit more insight into the way Catholic folks view the world. I'm curious about a few points you made. First is the idea that faith is needed to answer questions that evidence and reason cannot answer (or have not yet answered). I think non-religious, scientifically minded people agree that questions like "Is there a god?" can't be addressed by science--it's a great example of an unfalsifiable hypothesis, a claim that has no way of being proven or disproven. But instead of responding to that by searching for a specific answer through faith, we're content to say that we don't know and we have no way of knowing, and therefore there's no reason to believe anything in particular about it. This attitude seems very similar to your statement around 3:56 about embracing uncertainty, so I'm curious why people of faith who share this perspective instead respond by seeking an answer. Second is the idea around 0:08 that faith is needed for a sense of awe and wonder at our place in the universe. Many non-religious people, even those who might be considered militant atheists, have powerful experiences of awe and wonder when contemplating our existence, completely in the absence of beliefs about any objective meaning or purpose to life. In material terms, we would view that feeling as something that's hard-wired into the human brain, something that as individuals brings us a profound sense of meaning but that has no significance outside of our subjective lives. Why do religious people view faith as a vital component of this experience? Finally, I'd like to better understand why theology and faith are included along with philosophy in your list at 3:02. I agree that science can't provide an objective reason for "why" killing an innocent person wrong, but I also think looking for objective reasons for subjective judgments like "right and wrong" doesn't make sense in the first place. Moral values vary widely across cultures and throughout time, and they simply depend on what people believe to be right and wrong. I realize this perspective can sound very cold and calculating to people of faith, so let me assure you that I'm a very compassionate and empathetic person and I completely agree that killing innocent people is wrong. I feel this deeply on an emotional level, and I also think it's the best course of action for us to prosper as a society. But fundamentally, that belief isn't coming from a scripture or religious leader; it comes from the fact that our brains give us the ability to empathize with and feel compassion for other people, with the result being that most of us have agreed to hold "reduce human suffering" as a core guiding principle in our lives. For me and other non-religious people, this deep conviction toward kindness and empathy comes directly from our shared humanity, so it's difficult to understand why faith and religion play such a critical role in it for others. I realize this is quite a long comment, so thank you in advance if you take the time to respond. I hope you have a good day!
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this very thoughtful comment, Griffin! We're so grateful you took the time to watch with an open mind and share these questions with us. As to your first question, it's important to note that even most non-religious people arrive at specific answers about many important things that lie outside falsifiable science. For example, it is impossible -even in principle-for science to ever prove that another human being has subjective consciousness (philosopher David Chalmers calls this the "hard problem of consciousness"). Yet most atheists don't say there's no reason to believe anything particular about that question-they still firmly believe that people around them have the same kind of subjective internal experience that they do. Likewise, science can describe love as a purely electrochemical interaction of brain cells and neurotransmitters. That's all science can ever see from the outside. But actually feeling love gives us a powerful conviction that there's *something* happening there beyond what can be empirically observed. To Catholics, this isn't merely a bias or delusion, but a perception of something real and mysterious. To your second question, we'd like to clarify that we don't think that faith is the only source of awe and wonder. Indeed, some of the most eloquent articulators of these feelings, like Carl Sagan, have been non-religious. We at Catholic Central affirm and admire those expressions, whoever they come from. The difference, though, between a non-religious worldview and the Catholic worldview hinges on the idea of transcendence. If we may generalize a bit, the most common physicalist worldview sees our remarkable existence as something like a winning lottery ticket. It's genuinely amazing if those randomly spinning balls happen to match the number on your ticket, but the motion of the balls fully explains the result. That is, physical laws are sufficient to explain all the things that produce awe and wonder. Does that feel like a fair approximation of your own view, Griffin? By contrast, Catholics see human life, relationships, and purpose as having value that transcends the physical laws that they work through. In other words, we say that the lottery analogy can't completely describe our humanity-that there's something about us that goes beyond what even a staggeringly large cosmic coincidence can describe. This leads to your third question. We strongly respect your view and agree that empathy is a powerful motivator for virtue and right action. From a Catholic perspective, though, there is a dimension of morality that goes beyond what biological or social factors may dictate. For example, we believe that making an innocent person suffer has a quality of wrongness that transcends description by the attitudes or behavior of people in their society. Even if a society collectively decides that cruelty is good, we believe-as you might as well-that there's an important sense in which it is still wrong. In a sense, we see this kind of moral truth as similar to physical laws. Even if all scientists on Earth mistakenly thought that E=MC^3, or even if the Earth had never formed at all, the truth would still be E=MC^2. To Catholics, both moral and physical truths come from the divine. Thank you again for engaging with us, Griffin, and we hope you'll keep watching Catholic Central!
@cheechak481
@cheechak481 2 жыл бұрын
"The Bible teaches that salvation is through Christ alone. In Acts 4:12, Peter says, “There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” The Catholic Church affirms the truth of this statement, yet also teaches that non-believers can be saved:“Those also can attain to everlasting salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the gospel of Christ or his Church, yet sincerely seek God and, moved by grace, strive by their deeds to do his will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does divine Providence deny the help necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God, but who strive to live a good life, thanks to his grace” (Lumen Gentium, no. 16). The key to this is the word “knowing.” Lumen Gentium speaks of salvation for those who “through no fault of their own do not know the gospel of Christ or his Church.” Such a view squares perfectly with the Church’s traditional understanding of “outside the Church there is no salvation” since, as officially used, this phrase referred to those who knowingly rejected the truth or authority of Christ and his Church, not to those in invincible ignorance.
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comprehensive review. Karl Rahner called this idea the "Anonymous Christian."
@pharmapilly8479
@pharmapilly8479 Жыл бұрын
another person here writing alot without reason......geez apologetics to this guys is soo hard thanks alot to catholic central....i know what catholic apologetics go through talking to people who dont reason much at all...this is the same bible that the church gave u but u want to interpret it better than the church mehn am soo tired of hearing all this guys
@xxchillxxxxchris9385
@xxchillxxxxchris9385 2 жыл бұрын
So funny im laughing the facebook
@name_not_important7757
@name_not_important7757 3 жыл бұрын
Your jawline could cut cheese
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 3 жыл бұрын
We are not sure how to reply to that.
@geliantabjan7820
@geliantabjan7820 2 жыл бұрын
Why is reason necessary in nourishing the faith?
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gelian, thanks for the question. Probably the best answer is that it's part of what Jesus preached as the first and greatest commandment! “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.” (Matt 22:37). All dimensions of our humanity are wired to seek and know God, and our intellect is no exception. In our journey of faith, we use the reasoning power of our mind to interrogate the world without and within, we use it to learn about our place in history and how God reveals himself in human events, we use it to learn about the great accomplishments of art and science that help us discover the gifts God gave us, we use it to understand how reason can help us order our virtues and spiritual disciplines, we use it to help unpack God’s word in sacred scripture, we use it to learn about the faith (or lack of faith) of others so we can fulfill our calling as active messengers of the Good News of Jesus, we use our minds to understand how our own faith "makes sense" and isn't just a whim of mindless emotion. As Kai says at the end of the episode, “Rather than check our brains at the door, Catholics believe that asking questions of all perceived truth is actually a good thing, because it's a sign of a healthy, active, curious faith.” In other words, reason nourishes our faith, and our faith in Jesus calls us to that nourishment. You may be interested in watching our episode called "Being Human."
@PatrickSteil
@PatrickSteil 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Just figured out the reason our society is failing is because perhaps we tried to divorce faith and reason.
@MrXmager
@MrXmager 4 жыл бұрын
Can some one tldr the defintion of faith they gave? I didnt ever catch it?
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 4 жыл бұрын
We presented two definitions of faith. First, Libby gives us a widely encompassing one: “When reason and philosophy come up just a little short, it takes a certain leap of faith, realizing that we can't know something fully, coming to accept that uncertainty, and eventually embracing it.” Kai’s definition is more specific: “Catholics recognize that some things remain mysteries beyond our ability to fully understand, and we trust in God to guide us, through scripture and the Church.”
@teilom.lwandeaj1947
@teilom.lwandeaj1947 3 жыл бұрын
😊🥰👍🏿
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏🏼😉
@MrXmager
@MrXmager 4 жыл бұрын
Truth and morals you presented as a false ditchomy
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Hi MrXmager, thanks for your comments here and in your other entry. You may have misunderstood Libby when she said: “Catholics believe in objective truth, meaning that truth is a reality that exists independently of whether anyone believes it.” All morality is based on truth, however one defines and understands truth. Since we believe that truth is objective, we believe that morality, or moral truth, is likewise objective. Kai goes on to clarify: “This is the opposite of moral relativism, the view that multiple contradictory views of right and wrong can be true at the same time.” So, rather than creating a dichotomy between truth and morals, we have emphasized how they exist hand in hand, joined in one and the same objective reality.
@francescoc2782
@francescoc2782 4 жыл бұрын
Reasons why there is no god: 1) Life does not need to have a meaning. 2) All religions are shaped by the culture of that specific geografical area hence any god is made in the image of people: this means that god is just in your brain. 3) You just follow your family's religion as you were indoctrinated from the very beginning of your life. Your family was indoctrinated by their parents and so on until the days when religious education was mandatory. This much depends on the area where you were born. Basically what you know does not exist: it has just been told you to believe in it since when you were young and not able to do a critic about life. 4) If religion books were cancelled, they would have re-written differently (e.g. would a re-written version of the Bible - the word of god - describe that sun goes around the earth nowadays?). Instead, if scientific researches were cancelled they would have re-written in the same way cause they are based on objective evidence. 5) 4,200 religions in the world: how do you prove yours is the true one and on which evidence you discredit the others? 6) The most popular religions just coincide with the most dominant/rich/colonialist countries as they were spread by force/political influence 7) When people could not cure themselves they relied on witchcraft. Once science found the cure, witchcraft got extinguished. By analogy, religion works in the same way as witchcraft as it is just an irrational method of compensation for material life problems and it disappears when issues are fixed materially. Religion just gives you the illusion to obtain something that you will never get. 8) If you say "what was there before universe?", then I say, "what was there before god" ? 9) It has already been demonstrated by science that organic matter can be generated by inorganic matter (check the Miller-Urey experiment) 10) Big bang: explosion which determined life and continuous spreading of energy nowadays. Human production/reproduction is just an expression of that energy keeps spreading. Before the big bang there was neither space nor time, hence a god couldn't exist. Extra point: We are all here discussing because of CONSCIOUSNESS. Humans are the only ones who are provided with CONSCIOUSNESS in such a way that they can think, plan, construct even under long-term outlooks. CONSCIOUSNESS is therefore a system of defence to better allow our survival and it is the result of an evolved brain which took millions of years to develop to this level: it's not a gift of God... Please feed consciousness with reasoning instead of superstitions and useless beliefs because thank to this refined defensive system we have finally managed to understand how we came here. The rest is just useless faith which might even undermine our specie by diverting the natural purpose of our consciousness...
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Francesco, Thanks for your extensive reflections on faith and reason. What we note is that you in fact have a very strong faith … in reason and science. Remember that in the episode Kai quotes G.K. Chesterton as saying: “Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all." Chesterton is making an interesting point. Fact is, Catholics have enough faith in science and reason to use them as major signposts in their search for truth. But when you claim science and reason as the only “natural purpose of our consciousness,” setting limits on what consciousness can or cannot know, you have made a faith statement that neither reason nor science can prove. We respect that faith, Francesco, but our own consciousness - with the help of reason and science, to be sure - has stumbled on mysteries that call us to something more.
@francescoc2782
@francescoc2782 4 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicCentralVideos you're wrong. Science is based on evidence not on faith. Open a book pleaaase!!! 😂
@CatholicCentralVideos
@CatholicCentralVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the confusion. Our point is you have faith that science can provide the evidence for everything. But the laws of physics can’t prove that life has meaning or is empty of meaning. Chemistry can’t prove why a life of virtue is better than living without principle. Love can’t be proved under a microscope. We have opened the books of science often, Francesco, with awe and admiration, but without your faith that science is all we need to know. Remember too that while science is evidence-based, historically the same evidence has produced dramatically shifting paradigms: Newton, Einstein and Niels Bohr all observed the same empirical evidence but came up with wildly different models to explain it, models which have yet to be entirely reconciled. Likewise, Ptolemy’s universe held the world captive until Copernicus arrived, as did the self-evident predictability of dynamic systems until chaos theory crashed the party a few decades ago. No scientist we know of today, you included we’re sure, would claim that science has exhausted all the facts of the evidence available to us, and there’s no guarantee that it ever will. So all we’re saying is that it's an act of faith to embrace science as our only hope for attaining the ultimate truth of things. That’s okay, because we are people of faith too, just of a different kind.
@jedidiah1732
@jedidiah1732 3 жыл бұрын
Even if you don't believe in god. God loves everyone including non-believers such as you :)
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