FAKE! 1987 Topps Tiffany Sealed Box Break Set! WARNING Topps Baseball Case Break

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Graded Card Investor

Graded Card Investor

4 жыл бұрын

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I was given (4) FAKE factory sealed 1987 Topps Baseball Tiffany sports cards sets disguised as four authentic factory sealed sets. WARNING! Must-watch MLB box break before buying Topps vintage baseball cards!!!
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@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, SHARE this video if you know anyone who buys or sells Topps Tiffany sets. These fake seals could potentially save someone from wasting a lot of money! These fooled me up to the very last second. Let me know in the comments if you've come across anything like this.
@djquiksilva
@djquiksilva 4 жыл бұрын
PSA COLLECTOR ... Bro I really hope that dealer does the right thing & sends you a refund. Also, could you please name the dealer so that others don’t have to go thru this. Good Luck 🍀
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@djquiksilva Thanks! The dealer name can be found on the invoice. His Beckett.com account is under Bakerfield.cards I think... Not sure if he has an eBay account.
@90210bribri
@90210bribri 4 жыл бұрын
PSA COLLECTOR The seller needs to be exposed before more people get ripped off.
@darrellfernandis
@darrellfernandis 4 жыл бұрын
There is a Barry Bonds and that's it but I don't think it's as rookie. The Bo Jackson Jose Canseco and Barry Bonds rookies are in the 86 Tiffany set
@darrellfernandis
@darrellfernandis 4 жыл бұрын
@Bipolar Bryan and what are you talking about???
@leviroberts
@leviroberts 4 жыл бұрын
If you used Paypal you have 180 days. File a claim, return them, and get ALL your money back. Don't wait for the seller while he says "he will look into it." He is waiting for your claim period to expire.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I didn't even think of that! I'll file a claim right now. Thanks for the insight!
@pauld8790
@pauld8790 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect advice
@krazejeff
@krazejeff 4 жыл бұрын
Credit card companies do stuff like that also
@jmill3147
@jmill3147 4 жыл бұрын
Or file a chargeback to your credit card. Thats what I always do.
@thecardsaysmoops3
@thecardsaysmoops3 4 жыл бұрын
@Allen & Ginter The local police don't care but the postal inspectors will.
@90210bribri
@90210bribri 4 жыл бұрын
I own a set of 87 i bought it in 92 it didn't come shrink wrapped, shrink wrap didn't even become mainstream sill early 1990s . The sets I've seen back then weren't shrink wrapped at all.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are correct. I was fooled into thinking because it was shrink wrapped that it hadn't been searched through. Now I know. Hopefully others will see this video and recognize it as a scam as well.
@rocketrayray55
@rocketrayray55 4 жыл бұрын
That is correct.
@scottgiuld9519
@scottgiuld9519 3 жыл бұрын
Yes my 87 Tiff Sets are not shrink Wrapped
@dieseldabz7104
@dieseldabz7104 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly man. I remembered that as well and was scratching my head trying to figure out why his had wrapping on them and mine NEVER did back in the early 90's
@SilverJackify
@SilverJackify 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I opened a complete set of 1987 Topps and update tiffany this year. I feel very fortunate that I got an authentic complete version now. Thx for sharing!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Dang! Nice, man! I see your's wasn't shrink wrapped. The cuts on your cards looked great 👍 The Bonds could be a 9. I Love these Tiffany cards 😬Thanks for the insight!
@SilverJackify
@SilverJackify 4 жыл бұрын
PSA COLLECTOR Yeah, I was very happy with the look of the set. Sorry, that happened to you. There are some real scumbags out there. I submitted a couple of the 87 Topps Tiffany. I show the ones I picked out in one of my latest videos. Decided to submit the bonds even though best case it is a 9. Should be fun to see how they come back
@CBsays_
@CBsays_ 4 жыл бұрын
I would have been a lot more skeptical of the Beckett seller! That extra sticker is not from 1987! Daryl Strawberry was a stud in 1987, why would they have left that card in the box? This scam happened much more recently than 1987.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I pull all my Strawberries too!
@justinsiemonsma1193
@justinsiemonsma1193 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Also if it was done early the Todd Worell and other Topps all rookie guys like Tartabull would have been pulled.
@renocool1558
@renocool1558 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinsiemonsma1193 good point. Ruben Sierra too. Was Rob Deer in there? :-)
@deeblas77
@deeblas77 4 жыл бұрын
These Sets did come 6 Sets per Case, also the 1987 Topps Tiffany Sets DID NOT Come in Shrink Wrap. 1984 through 1988 and 1990 Did NOT Come Shrunk Wrapped from the Factory. They were only Sealed by the Sticker. Once an Authentic Sticker is removed it will never adhere back to the box again correctly. The edges will always curl up if it's been opened/tampered with. Always throughly inspect the Sticker Seal to make sure there's no creases or bends on the Sticker and make sure it lays flat with No lifting on the edges. The only Year that came in Shrink Wrap was the 1991 Topps Tiffany and the 1991 Topps Traded Tiffany Sets. If you See a Shrunk Wrapped Topps Tiffany Set from 1984 thru 1988 and 1990 Do Not Buy them. That's a huge Red Flag when Buying Topps Tiffany Sets. The 1989 Topps Tiffany Sets and the 1989 and 1990 Bowman Tiffany Sets came Sealed in Cellophane Wrap. If you see one of these 3 Sets and in Shrink Wrap 99% of the time the Stars and Rookies will be missing.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, awesome information, sir! Thanks a ton for adding this. I've always thought that shrink wrap was a GOOD thing but am now convinced it is actually a huge red flag, Thanks for clarifying for me and everyone else.
@dieseldabz7104
@dieseldabz7104 3 жыл бұрын
Right but wrong about the sticker. I've seen them removed and re-glued to the point where you couldn't even tell. Y'all don't grasp that there's professional thieves that do shit like this for a living...
@raphaelmogannam6400
@raphaelmogannam6400 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry man. You showed good restraint and professionalism. I would’ve lost it. Great advice on the videotaping!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks fir noticing the restraint lol, I had to film the video few days after finding out and cooling down. 😳🔥🔥
@Beer_Man
@Beer_Man 4 жыл бұрын
That's rough, Matt. I don't think this would have been done by a Topps employee when they sold this back in 1987. They would have taken the Strawberry and Gooden as well. This had to be done after the fact. Those stickers are easy to reproduce. Not to mention the fact that it shouldn't have had shrink wrap on it. Let us know how it all works out.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
yeah the more this unfolds the more I'm convinced it was done by a dealer. I'm wondering where the got the seals from though?
@Beer_Man
@Beer_Man 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR Those look to be simple enough to make on a printer. notice the color wasn't exact. That kind of surprised me that it wasn't closer. Also, they weren't a "tamper proof" sticker like the originals. The fake one came off way too easy
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@Beer_Man Yep, I noticed that as well. The originals did not come off whatsoever! Except for the 1990 set, of course, that thing came off fairly easy.
@nashvillenate1666
@nashvillenate1666 4 жыл бұрын
Shrink wrap is dead giveaway. These sets didn’t come out of the case with shrink wrap. Also, these can be easily opened and closed from the bottom without breaking a legitimate seal. Best advice: don’t buy any of these sets-They’ve all been opened by now.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
It's not even worth questioning anymore. I'm going to go ahead and assume you're correct. They've all been opened and search so stick to buying the already PSA graded cards. Save the money in the long run.
@joeyyoung322
@joeyyoung322 4 жыл бұрын
You can find some sets from small individual one owners that are untampered with. Hard to come by though. I sold 1 of my 2 about 3 years ago and regret it still.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeyyoung322 Yeah they are hard to come by and if you do see one up for auction the competition is stiff! You still have 1 of the 2 sets and they were legit.
@quintocreations-businessac4976
@quintocreations-businessac4976 2 жыл бұрын
Shrink wrap is absolutely NOT a giveaway. A lot of shops and collectors used to shrink wrap sets and wax boxes etc back in the day, especially if there was a slight idea to store it for even a little bit of time. I know this because not only did I know many people who did this, me and several of the people I partnered with did it. It was cheap Protected cards very well for something that wasn't going to be handled And easy to remove without damaging if need be. Not only wo6ld I think this wouldn't be a "tell". But anybody clever enough to commit fraud in these ways as well as for items with this value are damn well going to research. It's like drugs, God knows how many people have had it before you. And I'd bet, it was probably shrink wrapped by somebody who was just a buyer and did so protecting his investment. The fraud could've been committed in say, 2004, gone through 6 people AFTER that, (all thinking they had "real"), but it was guy #2 who shrinkked it.
@guitardudeguy3139
@guitardudeguy3139 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that's really downright cold! Thanks for the warning, you know I'm into factory sets and that's scary to me. Now I'm afraid I need to open mine. But , mine are definately factory sealed. Your seals didnt look right. Mine are not seamed at all. If you see a seam in the plastic, it's been opened. I got ripped on a mini set once. Every Star card in the set was miscut or off centered. Obviously tampered with. I reported them , they disappeared off Ebay. Ebay wouldn't help. So be careful! If it's too good to be true it almost always is. Another is the bait and switch routine. I've been buying up certain raw RCs. Bought a lot of 5 which shown to be perfectly centered. When I got them they were all 70 /30 examples. I go back to the dealer and they magically disappeared again! That time I explained what happened and showed the video to Ebay and they refunded me and booted the dealer. I dont know what to do in your case. I would stick to reputable sellers that cant afford bad feedback or always check thier feedback listings. Alot of time you'll get warnings from other buyers. People are really shady, especially when it comes to cards I'm finding out. Even Topps can sell garbage and get away with it. Probably 40% of the sets put out were not worth the investment. I laugh at the guys who spend 4 to 5 thousand on a box and they get a Jansen,Keller, Beeks, and Briceno rookie autos. Probably 25.00 worth of cards. Sure , other guys pulled a Mike Trout, or a Ted Williams, but even that was not worth what they paid for the case. Stick to what you know is good. Let the whales blow thier money on that. I stock up on what players I believe to be a sure thing. But there is always a risk. That's why I buy CHEAP! I know newer ones were cello wrapped I'm not sure about 87 , seems they should be. But I dont know. I've got factory sealed sets from 1990 all the way up to now , missing a couple years here and there. All are sealed from the factory. Not like that though! I'm not sure about 80s. These were bought retail. Some may be different. I've seen different boxes from same years too. Colors different, extras are different too in some. Only way to know for sure is to contact Topps. They have a history of all thier issues and...mistakes too!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
There seems to be more scammed items out there anymore than authentic stuff! I'm going to stay cheap as well! lol, Once I start trying to get fancy I always end up getting the shaft 😂😅
@lightseek88
@lightseek88 4 жыл бұрын
Not the Topps employee cuz how would the employee know in 87 which rookies are gona be stars and hall of famers?
@lakeozarkrei3767
@lakeozarkrei3767 4 жыл бұрын
Wow... CRAZY! Someone went to a lot of work to re seal that thing. I've never recorded an opening but I will now! Thanks for the great info👍
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they did lol. Get that camera out and record for sure. With the scammers today, you never know what you're buying anymore 👍
@fgstech4857
@fgstech4857 4 жыл бұрын
Dang I hate that Matt. It just takes a few scammers to mess up a good hobby. There's no hobby like ripping packs and looking for cool stuff. I hope you get your money back Sir.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! I just e-mailed the seller again and am hoping to hear back soon... With the holidays right around the corner I doubt I'll get any response, which is fine as long as there's a follow up after! 😅
@rocketrayray55
@rocketrayray55 4 жыл бұрын
It is already "messed". Reprints everywhere on the bay.
@jbscardbreaks4389
@jbscardbreaks4389 4 жыл бұрын
That’s awful that’s happened to me twice this year on 1987 topps I am just done trying to find the best deals and paying the premium now with more trusted dealers or bce certified sets there’s a lot of con artist out there hope you get your money back on those.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with you! I thought I was getting a good deal on these which in the end is probably going to cost me. Should have paid $500 for 2 sealed sets on eBay where I could inspect the boxes. On Beckett.com all I got was a blurry image.
@sportscardprofessor
@sportscardprofessor 3 жыл бұрын
Great Analysis, thank you for detailing everything so well. It all seems so obvious later on, so giving a real-time example is vital.
@80sFreak100
@80sFreak100 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1989 Tiffany set that I never opened. I have had it almost 30 years. Mine came in a generic white host box that contained the original sealed Tiffany box. I still have it stashed away and haven't even seen it in over 20 years.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh ok cool, so yours wasn't shrink wrapped? I'm still wondering why the heck they would wrap all four of them.
@80sFreak100
@80sFreak100 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR my set has been stashed away for 20 plus years. If I remember correctly, the set came wrapped in plastic that was folded neatly around it like wrapping paper, not shrink wrapped like yours here. My set is also housed in a generic unmarked box that completely encases and fits the set perfectly. I don't know if that box is original. I hope you don't mind, but I shared this video with a manager at Topps who sent it through the appropriate departments. It's very possible you may hear further from this. I seriously doubt anyone at Topps is a suspect in doing this. Your video here is very important to them and they may put out an advisory for consumers.
@stevevenom175
@stevevenom175 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry about the scam brother. The ones I found on ebay are NOT shrink wrapped. I'm sure you will get sorted out soon with the seller. Thanks for the video
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man, I am convinced that the shrink wrapped sets are a bad sign lol. I'm hoping the seller and Beckett give me my money back or at least give me 4 factory sealed sets!
@brianm.8423
@brianm.8423 4 жыл бұрын
Beware of the Bookstore at 3rd street and Fairfax in Los Angeles.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
What's at this book store you speak of? Sounds like a haunted book store. lol Beware.
@brianm.8423
@brianm.8423 4 жыл бұрын
I was a customer for 2 yrs purchasing basketball packs and never pulled (game used or autographed cards ) $200-300 every 2 wks. One day after I spent about 2 hrs of hard earned $ The owners wife opened the office door and I seen someone shrink wrapping a Box of SP Authentic Basketball. He saw me starring and said to her in another language shut the door !
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianm.8423 Oh, wow that's crazy! So many tricky sellers out there. One can only wonder how many guys were ripped off from him.
@xxxxx4570
@xxxxx4570 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianm.8423 back in the day,maybe even still today.packs are being weighed to determine if there's anything in them.like a jersey card pack would be heavier than regular packs,etc.but the card company's tried to fix this issue by putting in what I call dummy cardboards in packs.but even so keep in mind not all of today's cards have those dummy cards inside packs.so some are probably still weighing the packs.
@jshah1961
@jshah1961 4 жыл бұрын
If I buy retail I always weigh packs or I simply won't buy them I have been burned 3 times when I started collecting guys buy every box of new cards go home open and search them reseal and return target is the worst and always returns them to the shelf. Last year I helped the local manager pros a thieve. For some reason they never replace the cards they take so the boxes are always light but the seal is almost perfect! I found bought a box of bowman and noticed the packs were glued shut didn't even leave a good base rookie when I went back in I started to weigh I found a ton that were tampered with. Scum like that is killing the hobby!
@marathawnjawn8862
@marathawnjawn8862 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. So sorry...but THANK YOU for posting this and bringing to our knowledge. Super helpful!! Also - I wasn’t aware PSA was raising their prices. I have 50-100 cards I’ve been wanting to get graded, so I need to get them sent in! I appreciate you and all your good work you do for the hobby. Thank you!🙏
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, PSA will be raising their BULK submission prices by $1 per card starting January 2020 so send them in before that date and you'll get the $8 per card price 👍
@85geoffm
@85geoffm 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR geesh, don't they make enough money?
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@85geoffm lol, talk about milking a cow dry!
@85geoffm
@85geoffm 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR hopefully it's for employee raises!
@denniskugel1006
@denniskugel1006 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the bad brake. I'm very familiar with the tiffany sets of the 80's. #1 thing that sticks out is the sets were NEVER shrink wrapped. Hope that helps
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, sure does. It confirms what everyone else has said so far as well. Thanks for the insight! 👍
@phillipatkinson6327
@phillipatkinson6327 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I just purchased two boxes on ebay and I could tell from the weight and the shifting of cards that some were missing. Interesting to see that you had a similar issue. Thanks again for posting it.
@pcbullets8726
@pcbullets8726 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happened to you. I have always been a little paranoid buying sealed stuff from ages ago. This just confirms it. Thanks for sharing!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I was never skeptical but sure am now. I'm thinking about just buying complete open sets from now on! Or at least sets that aren't shrink wrapped with pink seals lol.
@lakeozarkrei3767
@lakeozarkrei3767 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't think this was Topps employee though... back in the day they wouldn't know what cards would be the big hits down the road. This is somebody, recently, who had a case - went through and cherry picked the good cards and went to a LOT of work to make it look originally sealed👍
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, that makes sense I'm wondering if it was the Beckett dealer... which is why he's not responding 👎
@lakeozarkrei3767
@lakeozarkrei3767 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR Very possible bit unfortunately virtually impossible to prove. I'm not sure how Beckett works - I buy 80% from eBay - I also have an eBay store so I know they're pretty diligent about their sellers. The rest I buy from online auctions - PWCC, Small Traditions, Mile High Card Company and Heritage mainly. They all offer guarantees. Of course eBay is where I got the reprint 1933 Goudeys they had listed as originals.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@lakeozarkrei3767 Yeah, I'm on the fence about whether or not I buy from Beckett.com again. This is a huge loss for me. I prefer eBay but the competition and prices are stiff for the Tiffany sets!
@richardfontaine8157
@richardfontaine8157 4 жыл бұрын
I never bought any of the Tiffany sets due to the price. I appreciate you sharing this info with us. Hope you can get your money back. This seems to be 100% seller issue. If he didn't do it, why was he asking only $99 for a set? Thats super cheap. Pisses me off. Some ass holes always finding ways to ruin the hobby.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Looking back, $99 a piece was ridiculously underpriced and should have been a red flag. Thanks for the support! I'll make a video in the near future on how Beckett, Paypal, and the seller work everything out.
@mr.bloodvessel260
@mr.bloodvessel260 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you got your money back and get to keep the cards, I've been burned by online sales and never recouped...and the fact that this was from a major company made it even worse....keep on keeping on!!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir! Karma worked in my favor this time 👍
@baseball_rocks
@baseball_rocks 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for sharing. Hope you were able to get your money back. Best of luck!
@ClassicCards
@ClassicCards 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks for sharing the info, those seams are definitely something to look for. I recently shared a video on a fake BBCE “authenticated” box I received...Info us collectors NEED to know!! Thanks Matt
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I'll go check that video out I would have thought that BBCE wrap would be tough to duplicate. Freaking insane how crafty thief's are!
@jasonmatteson9909
@jasonmatteson9909 4 жыл бұрын
What video was this Classic? Is like to see bbce box
@ClassicCards
@ClassicCards 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the only “PSA not PSA” vid I have up right now! An 86 Topps box...like really? Makes me think no doubt “bigger” boxes have been faked. Beware!!
@jasonmatteson9909
@jasonmatteson9909 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicCards ill check it out. Wow. Not much in the 86 topps box. Very shady
@MikelineTV
@MikelineTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this important video. Could've been more worse such as replacing all the tiffanys for the regular cards. That could probably happen to the fleer glossy , be careful boxed set collectors.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have been looking to get some of the Fleer Glossy sets. I'm going to make sure to buy from a reputable seller though!
@DonBlomdahlHOF
@DonBlomdahlHOF 4 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely terrible. TYVM for sharing this with our community.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Steer clear of the shrink wrapped sets 👍
@hossofcards
@hossofcards 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! My initial guess was the seller too, especially with that header. Hopefully you’re able to get a refund!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll do a follow-up video in the future on how it works out. Fingers crossed its a positive vid 👍
@miket2419
@miket2419 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this and shedding light.
@darrellfernandis
@darrellfernandis 4 жыл бұрын
The first red flag you should have noticed was the price. You'll be lucky to get one of those sets Factory sell for $300. The second red flag isn't your fault but it was the shrink wrap. The Topps Factory sealed boxes came in shrink-wrap with Topps printed all over it like Panini does.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, the price was waaaay too low. Hindsight I was being greedy, which is partially my fault lol. Also, I am now aware that shrink-wrapped boxes of older sets is a huge red flag! Thanks for the insight 👍
@darrellfernandis
@darrellfernandis 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR I just realized something. If the seller wasn't aware of the tempering they wouldn't have sold it for that low price. I have a signed Barry Bonds card that I think might be a forgery.
@stashrelics
@stashrelics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! So crazy! Right away that sticker over the other sticker didn't look right!
@jerryslivka6423
@jerryslivka6423 4 жыл бұрын
I bought fifteen cello/rack packs from 19-20 Prizm basketball from Walmart last week. I got home and opened them, I found 225 cards from 03-04 topps basketball. ALL Paul Pierce and Steve Nash cards, the worst feeling ever. As soon as I opened the first pack I realized it was way, way to light. Someone opened them and returned them, worse was that Walmart would not refund my money..
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Man, sorry to heart that. I've been hearing a lot of guys going through that lately. How were the packs sealed up? Were they glued or heat pressed? Curious to see how they pulled that off.
@jerryslivka6423
@jerryslivka6423 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR It looks like they were heated back up, the top of the packs had a slight blackness to them. Brutal feeling..
@viktorraffi34
@viktorraffi34 4 жыл бұрын
What a dishonest, disappointing thing to do, especially to someone who is as giving as you. We bought 2 complete sets of, 1987 Topps factory sealed boxes from, Bidville about 16 yrs ago, only opening 1 box that is loaded, including the, Barry Bonds #320 error card. In fact we bought a lot of card sets from them, and never was there a problem in our purchases, nor a bad report about them, to my knowledge. They went out of business a while ago, why? I don't know for sure, but it was said there was too much competition in the market. But wow I wish they would reconsider, and come back especially since the market has been tainted with dishonesty. I think we'll just stick with buying from obscure sellers, who are like they were, when we find them. When that happens,Matt I'll give you a heads up, in the meantime, hope you get the mess straightened out. Wish you the best thanks for the info, will pass it on.Happy New Year to you and your family. Vik!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input, Vik! Good to hear you got the Bonds card! That's the one I was really chasing. I haven't heard of Bidville but it sounds like a cool store, wish they had more honest sellers like that today. It seems they lot of them are all dishonest anymore. I'll do an update video in the future when this all gets straightened out. Thanks for watching, Happy New Year !
@Palacemalicee
@Palacemalicee 4 жыл бұрын
PSA COLLECTOR did you hear back? I’m curious!
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 4 жыл бұрын
They put extra seals tightly on hoping that you'll just cut it open and won't notice that you've been swindled!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I would have found out eventually by seeing the missing cards. But they did seal that puppy pretty tight.
@jshah1961
@jshah1961 4 жыл бұрын
They prob hoped you wouldn't open the box at all but hold the "sealed" box to resell years later, which would have been horrible for you and anyone who bought it.
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Sorry, if this is a repeat. But, in 1987, the sets were NOT shrink wrapped. They only had that seal!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, they were not... Dealers did it for various reasons not Topps. Shrink wrap is a red flag not a green one to buy. Thanks for the insight!
@ronsilvia8127
@ronsilvia8127 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry that has happened to you brother. Beckett should be held responsible they permitted the individual to sell products through their company and get paid.So it is their fault they have let an individual sell fraudulent products through their company. And Beckett should also be a suspect they have hired an individual from the pawn stars television show who has been caught selling fake items now they have hired him to work at their company.So Becketts trust should also be in question.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I contacted Beckett and they said that it is between me and the seller so I'm praying the seller cooperates and works things out with me. I plan on posting a follow up video on how things go so I hope it's a positive one and not a negative but I agree, Beckett should be responsible as well since they host the marketplace on their website.
@ronsilvia8127
@ronsilvia8127 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR its definitely unfortunate that this has happened brother. Boycott any future deals that involve beckett it sounds like they are involved in this type of activity .They definitely would have noticed how cheap the prices were from the fake sets compared to the price of the real sets and check and see if Beckett is still letting the individual use their sight to continue selling that product if he's still selling products you will know Beckett cannot be trusted.
@pdubs7069
@pdubs7069 4 жыл бұрын
That's an absolute shame man! I hope you got your money back ! Im sure PWCC had their hands on this set at one time!!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! I'm in the process of filing a claim through Paypal 👍👍
@nyyanks22
@nyyanks22 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ,for this video !
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ❤!
@skylerg6550
@skylerg6550 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep them coming!
@getdagr4665
@getdagr4665 3 жыл бұрын
That is brutal. Tks for the heads up I was starting to look for some online
@MadisonDeeOhGeeYT
@MadisonDeeOhGeeYT 4 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up on these old sets they didn't come shrink wrapped, they came out of the case with the sticker seal only. My Father and I used to have a card shop from 1986-2000 in West St. Paul, MN. Topps didn't wrap the sets or boxes for many years I think the first boxes that were sealed were the retail sets and then in the late 90's they started wrapping boxes. I love your video's and im sorry you got screwed over. the other thing most people can do is get any 792 card topps set and weight it. all the sets from 1984-they started doing 2 series they have 792 cards so they will weigh close to the same every year. good luck all and happy collecting. the Fleer Glossy in the tins were wrapped in plastic we had the 1987 fleer glossy and update tins. but I have nothing left from those days, I have always been the person that loves to open packs and my luck has always been on point. but id never keep anything, sometimes I kick myself I had 10 86-87 Jordan rookies I bought at shinders for 2.95 each
@marcus_mannebach
@marcus_mannebach 4 жыл бұрын
Smh… Thats brutal man. :/ Hope you get this sorted out. And thanks for making others aware.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support 👍
@brittsbit8847
@brittsbit8847 4 жыл бұрын
How about the other sets matt, are they all like the one you opened? Thanks for sharing! Happy Holidays
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, and yes they were all the same fake seal... It makes me wonder just how many of these sets were searched and sealed!
@lenspicks
@lenspicks 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid lots of good info have you tried to weigh the other boxes compare to this one
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
No but that’s a great idea 💡👍 I’ll have to get a scale for future boxes.
@rustyshobbies8430
@rustyshobbies8430 Жыл бұрын
Just from the way the plastic looks and sounds I can tell its fake. Thats resealed blaster plastic for sure. A lot of us have been victims of this at one time or another. I would highly highly highly doubt a topps employee did this. Standard scumbag reseal job.
@Kidddaytona05
@Kidddaytona05 4 жыл бұрын
I've had 2 new " sealed" blaster boxes one at target and one at Walmart that had been resealed returned and I bought them they looked new till I ripped open the pack and they didnt rip,lol super glued example was a 2020 donruss blaster box and inside the 2 possible hits had 2 1990 score baseball cards in it with in penny sleeves.i havent bought any retail since,buyer beware,PSA collector you rock bro keep it up,my first comment o you tube ever
@imreadytoberuledbyap
@imreadytoberuledbyap 4 жыл бұрын
I thought these weren't shrink wrapped at all..........
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Evidently they weren't... Not sure why they would go through the hassle of wrapping them other than trying to hide the fact that they've been searched. 🙈
@seekanddestroy7343
@seekanddestroy7343 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, beware of shrink wrap in the 80's.
@baphomet420
@baphomet420 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR i always thought they were not shrink wrapped but came in individual white (like 800 ct boxes). you know, like a box in a box. maybe the dealers were just doing that because the boxes were so fragile. but i was under the impression they came from topps like that.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@seekanddestroy7343 lol, I never even knew... Now I do!
@allendennis7880
@allendennis7880 4 жыл бұрын
I believe you where scammed by the seller sets didn't come shrink wrapped plus they come in numerical numbering so that should tell you where the scam happened seller bought sets at different times opened then resealed the seller is a doosh bag!!!!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm finding that out. Either the seller who sold it to me or the seller that sold it to him shrink wrapped them to make them look fake.
@allendennis7880
@allendennis7880 4 жыл бұрын
I think the seller should give you your $ back if he got scammed he shouldn't pass it on what an ahole
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I just e-mailed him and asked what the progress was... Starting to get nervous 😫
@renatoyepez8642
@renatoyepez8642 4 жыл бұрын
Think the seller is giving you the run around, not being professional at all, hope you get the issue resolved
@shakascloset1700
@shakascloset1700 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR seller should definitely refund you, he has to take the loss.
@edwardsalinas3627
@edwardsalinas3627 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing you decided to peel the sticker rather than cut through it. You still would eventually find out it’s been searched but spotting the difference in the original and fake seal is important too
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing after watching the video. I'm just glad I was recording because how can he not give me my money back after watching this video? I hope Beckett does the right thing and helps me out on this so I can do a follow-up video and let everyone know that this had a happy ending lol.
@edwardsalinas3627
@edwardsalinas3627 4 жыл бұрын
PSA COLLECTOR I do hope it ends well for you.
@kidt3068
@kidt3068 Жыл бұрын
Topps factory is located near Philadelphia. My uncle had mafia connections and knew everyone. He had “connections” there at the factory. There was shady business going on there so wouldn’t surprise me this happened to you
@tomlynch4232
@tomlynch4232 Жыл бұрын
It's 35 years old....who knows how many sins are committed over that many years. That's why it's crazy to buy unopened packs from the 60s....even certified. Unless I saw them come our of the case.....and even then. Mining sets or packs for gold is a tuff MOS
@charlyscards2661
@charlyscards2661 4 жыл бұрын
WOW...love the wax lately. GREAT F.Y.I. Thanks
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Spread the word about these. 👍
@Kiwitakimago
@Kiwitakimago 4 жыл бұрын
The very first card you pulled out was #666! Your cursed man......
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
lol, I said it was bad luck in the actual break I did. Funny you're the only one that has caught that so far 😂👍
@vtfan8256
@vtfan8256 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this I have the Tiffany sets 87-90 none of mine had the plastic on it when I got them but it may have been taken off. But whoever did this took there time and honestly probably thought no one would ever open forgetting about us grading fanatics. I buy old sets all the time looking for good rookies to grade just because there’s not much value without a high grade.
@donatoramirez6132
@donatoramirez6132 4 жыл бұрын
What I can't believe that I just wanted to start to by Tiffany cards in the Box but now I have to think about it That's why I only Purchase PSA card's. Thanks for the heads up man.😎⚾️💯
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, that's a great option just buy them already PSA graded - save the headache 👍
@shamusmcgregor3122
@shamusmcgregor3122 4 жыл бұрын
Damn matt this is card gate!!! Merry Christmas has anyone ever told you that you look like Russell Wilson? Do a video on daryle strawberry matt
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
lol, I like Russell Wilson, so I'll say yes to that. Merry Christmas Mr. Shamus 🎄👍😂
@ObsessedCollector
@ObsessedCollector 4 жыл бұрын
Topps never shrank wrapped the early sets, I Don't even think they used shrink until the 1990s/2000s, and even then, they used the Topps logo all over the shrink.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it all makes sense now lol shrink wrap is a very bad sign! Unless it has Topps logo on it.
@jrsportscardschronicles3587
@jrsportscardschronicles3587 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I just opened some fake packs in one of my videos and the packs were opened and resealed with glue. It was quite obvious. Even shrink wrapped stuff I’ve seen been tampered with. Buyer beware!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, they glued them shut? Did you get a refund?
@jrsportscardschronicles3587
@jrsportscardschronicles3587 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR It was only couple of bucks for two packs. So wasn't worth it. But yeah it was pretty obvious, the wrapper stuck to the card on the back with glue. when I peeled the seal open, it ripped off the back of the card due to the glue.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
What a waste of time lol, man some people just have zero integrity. thanks for sharing!
@supersportrsz28
@supersportrsz28 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks for sharing
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@faxhandle9715
@faxhandle9715 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite sets ever, even just the regular set! Sorry this happened.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, this is a classic one-of-a-kind set with an iconic design. It's only going to get more and more popular as the years progress!
@thechado7868
@thechado7868 3 жыл бұрын
Know idea why I haven't subscribed to your channel yet, as a poor collector with nothing of value its nice to see people cherish the hobby as well that actually have good cards and such. Plus all the great advice and warnings for people with morals in the hobby
@christianmolina8175
@christianmolina8175 4 жыл бұрын
Bro thank for the info and sorry that happened to you. I brought a complete topps set from from 1989 or 1990. The box was jam pack that i couldnt get my finger into corner of the box on each end. I dont remember if it had a topps seal on it.
@jonkbox
@jonkbox 4 жыл бұрын
Oh~!my. Thank you for sharing such important information.As a person collecting sports cards in Korea, this is really important information👍👍👍💕💕
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Korea! Happy collecting!
@chetthedebt2169
@chetthedebt2169 4 жыл бұрын
At least he left you the Tom Lawless. That guy is an American Hero.
@eclavet18
@eclavet18 4 жыл бұрын
Damn man, i am sorry for you. Thanks for Sharing.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric, I hope something good comes from it. I know I learned a big lesson! 👍
@im_just_george
@im_just_george 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry that happened. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scammers out there. Hopefully you can get refunded on this. Anyway, thanks for sharing so that people know. I will share it on twitter to help spread the word.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! I'll do a follow-up video once Beckett, Paypal and the seller figure out a solution. 👍
@Jjbturnage30
@Jjbturnage30 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience they never came shrink wrapped and were numerical six box cases..Hope this helps brother. Keep up the good work.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! It helps a lot 👍
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 4 жыл бұрын
Factory sealed sets are in numerical order. If not they have been handed!!
@jasonmatteson9909
@jasonmatteson9909 4 жыл бұрын
Which factory sets are like this? Regular Topps factory sets are not in numerical order usually
@royalcollectables
@royalcollectables 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that you had that to you. I had bought a set of 89 upper deck, and it was sealed when I was looking for the Ken Griffey jr. Rookie because I wanted to get it graded too. But when I opened the box the Ken Griffey jr. was completely bent and creased to hell. I was so pissed off and I went to the store and demanded to get my money back. Do you know what the owner of the store did? He destroyed the rest of the set and refused to pay me back for the set, so I called the police and they did nothing to help me. The cops just told me that he doesn't have to pay me back because he didn't know that the cards were damaged, when I told them that he did it. So the card shop owner lied to the police about it. And since I was a minor they thought I was making it up. 6 months after that I saw the owner and I said "You have destroyed my dreams of Collectables. You shouldn't be in this kind of business. And you are fraud!" He looked at me and just smiled. "Well that's good thing because you are just a kid." Fast forward 5 years he sold the card shop to my friend who took over for another 10 years. I told him what happened. He told me the reason why he got out of the business is because someone came in stole most of his collection of Mickey Mantles and other vintage cards. And had a heart attack 3 months after the robbery. After that his wife made him sell the store for 50k less than what he bought it for. They caught one of the guys behind the robbery the only reason why he rob him is because he was doing shady things. They never caught the other person behind the robbery. Scott my friend that brought the store stayed open for another 10 years then sold to my other friend Chris and he was in the Army. Stay open for 5 years then he was the last one that owned the store. I don't know what happened to the original owner after that. But my friend Scott made me get back into the hobby because he gave me the complete set factory sealed of upper deck and gave me 3 extra Ken Griffey jr. rookies to make up for my loss. I still have them today. So I hope that you can get better deals next time. If you need anything let me know bro. Best of luck, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Ps. My birthday is New year's day.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, man that's an incredible story! That original card shop owner sounds like the typical card shop owner in the early 90's when I was a kid. They forget that the hobby is for all ages and it's about the fun of collecting not ripping people off and treating them like garbage. Sorry to hear you had that experience as a kid. it sounds like karma came back and gave him what he was owed, thanks for posting that interesting story. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Happy Birthday! Glad you got your Griffey's back too!
@royalcollectables
@royalcollectables 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR thanks buddy much is appreciated, don't forget my birthday gift lol
@zstair
@zstair 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the early '90's dealers saw $ signs, like the reason card companies went away from wax packs. Dealers would open them, take out best cards, and re-seal them. I opened a wax pack of cards that had a few of the wrong brand of card. Like a fleer or score card in the Topps pack. It was terrible. I had nothing I could do but stop buying from the LCS and only bought from grocery stores and department stores (even with the pack searches in the rack packs).
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thats crazy, I didn't know they used to re-seal wax packs!
@royalcollectables
@royalcollectables 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR the guy that I mentioned in the story did all the time before I caught him doing one time. I didn't know what he was doing but I didn't asked him. But I knew as I got older.
@sportstronics
@sportstronics 4 жыл бұрын
Classic move from these sellers back in the 90's. Dang experts at the seals both boxes and packs.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Swindled I have been. 😆
@brocklee1996
@brocklee1996 4 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame bro. Sorry about your purchase. I got burned on Ebay on a 1984 fleer update set. They advertised it as factory set, unopened. The Clemens, puckett and Gooden cards were missing. I hate people sometimes!!! I've collected from 1980 to 2002. I would never deceive anyone if I sold my cards, it's so wrong and unethical.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
That's a bummer, man. I have been looking into picking up a set of the Fleer Update on eBay recently. I guess I'll check to see if BBCE has one first lol. Dang crooks in baseball cards. Who'd a thunk it?
@shawnbarton9562
@shawnbarton9562 4 жыл бұрын
Broken seal underneath is a dead giveaway...I hate that buddy
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how I didn't noticed that until I pulled the very last card. I felt like the biggest idiot lol
@shawnbarton9562
@shawnbarton9562 4 жыл бұрын
Actually you are a Genius to remove the seals that way...I would have slit it with a knife and I would have never seen it
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnbarton9562 Oh lol, I'm glad I did too. Not sure why I decided to peel it off. I think because the 1990 Topps Tiffany set seal pulled right off. Glad I didn't slit it though bc it would have been difficult to see!
@douglasquaid4518
@douglasquaid4518 4 жыл бұрын
Some times the seller realizes he got snookered and tries to pass his misfortune on to you.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
lol, snookered him right back!
@realprogressive4853
@realprogressive4853 3 жыл бұрын
Please don't blame a Topps employee. These cards were worth very limit money in 1987 and it is highly unlikely someone there would have done this. If the seller really did not know and he has a warehouse full of cards it may be one of his employees doing this.
@urban420cards
@urban420cards Жыл бұрын
The fact no NY teams were pulled, leaves out any Yankee or Met fans...
@donaldashbaugh5003
@donaldashbaugh5003 4 жыл бұрын
Those sets were not shrinkwrapped. The ones you bought were sealed to help conceal the tampering with plastic wrap and a new sticker. You will have to open the other sets and see whats not there.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hesitant to open the other sets since they have the same pink seal with a seal under neath. Just waiting on Beckett and Paypal to tell me what to do. Thanks for the insight 👍
@snoopys5150
@snoopys5150 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your loss, I would be flipping out like Ric Flair on coke! Keep us updated on this.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂I had the worst day after opening this set. I was so high on the fact that I had four sealed complete sets then just like that it was all taken away from me along with the $500 I spent on them. I hope they make it right and refund me. I'll definitely do a follow-up video!
@snoopys5150
@snoopys5150 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTORYou can tell right out the gate on your video your really upset, I would call them EVERYDAY until they made it right, its easy for me to say but try not to let this bring you down, your info could pervent someone else down the road from getting ripped off, love your channel and stay positive brother!
@seekanddestroy7343
@seekanddestroy7343 4 жыл бұрын
I feel for you man, those tiffany sets are Awesome. Hope someone catches the rascals. Seals yes, shrink wrap no.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
lol, yes, I've learned a lot from everyone so far and that seems to be the sum of it. Shrink wrap bad - purple seal good.
@anthonysapp9445
@anthonysapp9445 4 жыл бұрын
So sorry you got scammed. Seems like a lot of unsavory people are out here looking to benefit from the collector sport. I myself purchased Tiffany Cards from 84-87 , both complete sets and traded cards directly from Topps. I opened 1 set and put the rest away since then. Recently I called Topps to find out if they had a record of my purchase or even the price that these cards sold for. I was told they did not keep these records. Well I did want to sell, but I know a lot of people will be skeptical, especially after seeing the misfortunes that this gentleman has gone through. I will browse back periodically. You guys be safe and stay aware of the potential scammers that lurk about...…...
@recruitingnowagency
@recruitingnowagency 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos - sorry to hear about the "Fake" part :-)
@ScottSchulte
@ScottSchulte 4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty crazy... I was thinking about buying a box of these. I also just bought a different set opened... and now I am going to go through it just to make sure it has the cards its supposed to. Man this is a great video. Sorry it happened to you though. It looks like the originals come in box without shrink wrap.
@alexanderquaresma9207
@alexanderquaresma9207 4 жыл бұрын
The first card he pulled out of the box was the 87 topps Von Hayes. Should have known it was gonna be a disaster. That's 87 topps card #666.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
😂 I should have known it was going to be a bust!
@rodwhite9737
@rodwhite9737 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Matt. It makes me so sad and angry that someone would do this to a person who's spending his hard earned money on these awesome sets. Whoever has done this to you and every other person who bought these sets should go to jail! That's stolen property, in a sense. I was thinking of buying a Tiffany box after your first video. I don't know now if I should. Who is this guy you bought from so I don't make the same mistake? This is appauling! Sorry for your loss, my friend. Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and your family! I hope 2020 is a great year for you. Keep 'em comin'! Cheers!
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rod! I appreciate the feedback. The seller is Bakersfield.cards and his store is on Beckett.com. Not sure if he has an eBay account or not. I've had nothing but positive experiences on Beckett.com so far and this has been the first negative. If you want to buy a Topps Tiffany set, spend the extra money and buy from a reputable dealer. Merry Christmas Rod! looking forward to 2020 👍🎄💪
@rodwhite9737
@rodwhite9737 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR Whoever stole the cards out of the box must have a seal maker, maybe? I don't know. but that sucks big time. If it was me I'd find out where he lives. HAHAHA! Any thoughts on Football cards or Basketball cards boxes I should buy? Your input would mean a lot to me. I know that going back on your videos I would find out for myself, but I would like to know what you think.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodwhite9737 There is a 1990 Topps Tiffany football card set that is very hard to come by that I've been looking out for. Other than that, I would say early Topps Chrome, Bowman Chrome or anything with Drew Brees, Tom Brady would be a nice investment. Basketball is all over the place. I've been trying to find the next box myself. I'm thinking I might have to spend the extra buck and get a 1996, 1997 or 1998 box and look for some Jordan's!
@rodwhite9737
@rodwhite9737 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR OK. Thanks for that.
@rohitpuri4237
@rohitpuri4237 3 жыл бұрын
Bonds’ Rookie card is in the 1986 Topps Traded, and 1986 Topps Traded Tiffany sets. Bonds 1987 Topps card is a regular card.
@zekebarrett
@zekebarrett 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and sorry that happened to you.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brother! It ended well since I got my refund and kept the cards! 👍
@ambrosiaspen
@ambrosiaspen 4 жыл бұрын
Shake your other three sets. Is there noticeable movement in the box? Chances are you can tell if more cards are missing from those...
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, they all have movement.. Doh! I now know another thing to look for. These sets are pretty much just built for suckers lol.
@megaboom69
@megaboom69 4 жыл бұрын
That sucks your hard earned money. I'd be upset as well. Collecting and buying boxes of cards can get pricey.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I'm going to start buying from trusted sellers and paying more of a premium price. 👍👍
@rocketrayray55
@rocketrayray55 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased product direct from Topps back in the 80's. These sets were NOT "factory sealed" in cellophane. They just had the gold label sticker "seal".
@korn.on.jacob.
@korn.on.jacob. 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Got to get the word out
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta let everyone know the extent of scamming in the hobby! Keep your guard up at all times.
@hipolitomadero3009
@hipolitomadero3009 4 жыл бұрын
Hey PSA Collector, first off, sorry to see that you got sold some tampered sets. Hopefully it all works out for you and someone is held responsible in the end. Very recently I purchased a 1989 Upper Deck Baseball complete set on eBay. I'm waiting for it to arrive, which should be within a few days. I'm glad I came across your video because I am going to record the opening of the box, from delivery package to the cards themselves. Here's a question and hopefully you can advise: I'm thinking of sending the seller a message through eBay BEFORE I open the box and asking them if there's anything I should know about the box or if there has been any type of tampering with it, that they should let me know before I open it. I'm planning on letting them know that I am going to record every step of opening of the box and that if there's any findings tampering, resealing, or altering, that I am going to file a claim and expose them. FYI, I paid just a bit over $100 for the complete set. Do you think that's a good approach? Sorry for the long message, but I hope to get your feedback on this. Thanks in advance.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would just wait to get the sealed set and see if it looks tampered with. I haven't ever bought that set or looked into it at all so I'm not sure what you should look for as far as being authentic or not. The best thing to do is record you opening it just in case it's missing a card.
@hipolitomadero3009
@hipolitomadero3009 4 жыл бұрын
@@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR I got the set in the mail. I went ahead and recorded a video of the opening of the package and then the box. It all looked legit. The Griffey Jr rookie is nice and clean but doesn't seem like it'd get a PSA 10 grade. There's a tiny dent on the top front, and the bottom corners just don't look very sharp. The Randy Johnson rookie is perfect, though. I'll upload the video later. Thanks for your input.
@generalbroadhead1760
@generalbroadhead1760 4 жыл бұрын
The sound of that plastic wrap is a dead giveaway. After watching many scam videos and authentic opens, you can really hear the sound difference
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, man, that stuff was weird. Shrink wrap in general is a concern for me now. Unless it has Topps on the wrap or BBCE.
@matthewlepak2878
@matthewlepak2878 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to go through what you went through. We probably will all get into some small or big scam when collecting. We still have over 99 percent integrity. I wouldn't let these things get to us. We can get our money back. And we can be better more honest collectors ourself when we learn from things like this. God Bless you Matt
@90210bribri
@90210bribri 4 жыл бұрын
The latest scam I've seen is blaster retail boxes where they open all the packs take out the rookies , etc,etc and reseal the blaster box return to store and the store puts it back on the shelves.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I've been hearing a lot about that. I'm going to try and make a video on what to look for once I go search my local Wal Mart and Target to see if any are tampered with. 👍
@bustingpacks8610
@bustingpacks8610 Жыл бұрын
You can open these boxes up from the bottom and search / remove cards without affecting the seal.
@redsfan6148
@redsfan6148 4 жыл бұрын
That didn't happen at factory. It's sad that there's people doing this. Imagine how many other products they scammed. Thanks for video.ill just stick with my LCS and card shows for now on.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm convinced a dealer did it. SMH. pitifull.
@antiquingwithmattgreig1370
@antiquingwithmattgreig1370 4 жыл бұрын
Gloves make it too easy to drop stuff. Clean, dry hands are the way to go. Good video.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree on that. Raw hands have the best grip!
@Moondust0000
@Moondust0000 4 жыл бұрын
Its sad but its getting to the point where you cant Trust anyone in the hobby anymore.
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR
@GRADEDCARDINVESTOR 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s all about coming up with the next best scam😒
@patrickromeo3720
@patrickromeo3720 2 жыл бұрын
Bro it’s over 30 years god knows how many hands those boxes went through and you gotta figure back in 87 who knew bonds was gonna be great maguire all those cards who knew that happened over time like I said I bought mine from topps factory in Brooklyn didn’t come with that plastic wrapping nothing just the seal and they put it in the white cardboard outer box
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