It is hard to believe, and I am extremely happy I watched your video. I recently ordered a front and rear sight each from different sources. Front sight came first and I gave it the inspection. It had the fine detail and all that is expected from Troy. I just received the second and unbelievably it has the crude blotchy logo as specified in your video, exactly the same. I was pretty upset seeing this, though have taken action and will pursue again to get a genuine one. Thanks for posting this video. Anyone interested in Troy products should watch this.

I'm glad I noticed this video when I subscribed to your page. I had never heard about counterfeit Troy sights before your video! I will surely check them in the future.

Michael, thanks for making this video. I ran in to your video while looking for info on proper zeroing and after viewing your video I realized that the sights that were on my rifle were indeed fake. The specific giveaways were the wear marks on the moving parts, finish; also, the loose tolerances in a few areas. This was the first Troy type sights I have purchased, so I had no basis for comparison until I reviewed your video. I would warn everyone to make sure you are purchasing from reputable vendors online and at gun shows. Thanks again!

in other words, dont buy them on ebay

The $8.49 price should have said something.

It is sad the people that take advantage of others, especially in the firearms community. This is why when I purchase something expensive or important, I buy directly from the distributor. I wouldn't even trust Amazon and especially Ebay etc. To many thieves and hustlers. Glad you caught it and hopefully it all worked out best on your end.

Thank you very informative.

I thank you also for posting this. I just purchased an AR and am shopping around now for accessories. Ordered a pair from Amazon that were indeed fake, and will be returning. I don't think this is Amazon's fault though. Just think their people don't necessarily know how to spot counterfeits.

thanks for the video very useful and informative. I just got some troy 45 Degree Offset Folding Battle Sights set. and about to put them on your sig sauer 556xi. my scope was a little to big so I decided to use troy backup sight

Great video. I love Troy products. I have the diamond aperture.

Great video! Thanks for sharing! Cheers

I see genuine Troy’s going for 80-150 used

man this had me meticulously inspecting my troy buis, and fortunately I dont have fakes.

Just got my pair from amazon and did not know of this video until after they arrived. Still very glad I saw it, in case I had fakes and needed to return them. Everything indicates mine are genuine. The packaging was from Troy (made in the USA), the print and logos are clear (says made in the USA), there are no tooling marks, the rear sight has that snap in it when you rotate, etc. Thanks for the video.

I made a not so good choice ordering Troy sites threw Amazon.

I'm going to go buy a fake now, thanks.

I hate counterfeiters. Thanks for the heads up.

I had to go check all of my Troy rear flip up sights because of your video. They all have Cage Code 3EZ11 on the front, slightly rounded edges, no tool marks, and resistance when I flip the big/small aperture. I do have about 1/8" of wobble when flipped up, but I think that is okay since it only moves if I fidget with it.

thank you for doing this vid... i had no idea, but now I do.

Great video thanks

shop wit da big boy places midway, brownells ect.. never have a problem folks. u better not have a problem or get a lawyer quick!! for sellin crap!

story time was painfully long, but otherwise good to know.

thanks for the video I've always suspected mine was fake and now I know for sure

Very good video I was on the process of buying a pair of Troy sigth but after watching your video I found out those are fake it have the red flag you mention and also the price is a big difference 31 dlls. For a pair thank you for the head up

That is over $1k worth of irons

Thanks for this video , I just ordered Troy sights off of eBay , they are modified. I should have them in a few days . And will Wright another comment when I get them .

Good information. I also noticed that the axle on the rear sight is closer to the base and there is less light visible underneath it on the authentic. Also you mentioned parkerization but that's a process for steel and I believe these are aluminum so it would probably be anodization.

It's getting harder to wade thru the fake everythings, I'm waiting on the day china figures out how to clone entire vehicles... "hey man, why does your Chevy say 71z instead of z71 ?"

I got stuck with a set of Magpul MBUS counterfeit sights. definitely buy from a reputable dealer. Gun show deal was too good to be true.

Thanks for the info! Sorry you got duped.

Michael, I think you missed the most obvious flaw. The genuine article has the US Gov't GSA (General Services Administration) cage code 3EZ11 stamped on it whereas the fakes do not. This unique cage code is assigned to all contractor-supplied materials and equipment authorized for procurement by Uncle Sam. My suspicions are confirmed by observation of the real deal on the Troy Industries web site.

I just got a rear sight from BCM

Starts at 2:30 Good video, thanks

Thanks

Interesting

I just got a Troy HK from Amazon today. As soon as I took it out of the box I knew it was a fake from the weight and feel.

Wow. thanks for this info I was thinking of getting one too. Just not sure where to buy a real one at a good price.

Just bought a rear tritium sight from optic planet and haven't received it yet but you got me worried now. I spent over 100$ so I'm praying mine are real.

Buy from a reputable retailer like Brownells, Midway, or Sportsman's Guide. If you buy them from Ebay or Amazon, you might get counterfeits.

just purchased two of their di-optic from grabagun and they were 90 a piece and at first i got a little freaked out but i will just have to wait and see. the rifle i also bought from them better not be counterfeit

Another way to tell is that an authentic Troy uses a spring coil type roll pin

that's why you never buy anything from private seller

what rail cover panels you are using?

I have fake magpul sights and they work just as good as the real ones and they are 1/8th the cost

Straight off the boat from China brought to by Amazon

Did you notice difference in packaging?

Is optic planet a good place to buy these from?

The Fake ones are for AIRSOFT use. U get the look without paying full price, no need to waste money on name brand furniture ie: iron Sights & Red dots etc.. I bought a fake Leupold for an airsoft I use for some drills. I set this trainer up exactly like my real rifle platform, I’m not gonna put a genuine Leupold because it’s an airsoft.

Where did you get those rail covers ? Those are MINT !

What do they call them “backup”.

The wedge on my sight looks metal. But everything else looks good. Payed alot of money and now I'm concerned.

Just buy straight from the source.

But will the fakes still hold zero?

This video doesn't say much.....odd we are never shown the packaging the sights went sent in.....real troy sights should be packed in sturdy containers with factory information. Why isn't this discussed and why is the package not shown? Seems pointless without it. You also didn't show us if the front sights are tight or has any wobble. I have not been happy with TROY sights, as the front is too lose in my opinion.

AirSoft crap gets passed off as genuine equipment at many gun shows...suckers for a deal are the easiest to dupe.

Are these aluminum or steel ?

where do you think you bought them from? let's shut them down!

Bought a fake set rings steel at 100 yards with them right out of the box. They are legit enough for a range toy. Probably not Service rifle tho

Good video. Why the fakes Troy won't copy the exact logo after went through copy all other stuff? We'll never know. LOLz.. There are always something different in counterfeit compare to the real ones.

none of this was really conclusive. i was almost positive mine were fake up until you pulled another front iron and it was completely different and identical to my "fake" i dont really see how we can actually verify if they're really troy irons. the only useful part was about at the end which is always true, buy them from reputable places....

Is there a gas leak in your shop your camera is waiving

I just saw the video because i bought some micro troy tactics i would like to send you some pictures and listen to your opinion. They will arrive on the 22 of this month. i feel they will be fake :(

Troy sights are way overpriced and that accounts why there are counterfeiters out there. I would never, ever pay the kind of money for Troy backup sights that they are asking !

Only buy my optics from opticplanet

Bad luck. It’s unfortunate that the U.S. consumer drives that industry. I don’t understand how someone would put something like that on a rifle that could potentially save their life. I have a set of low pro HK style troys on my SHTF rifle, definitely wouldn’t put a counterfeit.

Do you have any real ones with the P/N 1614001 codes on them? I just bought a combo set of Troy sights from aimsurplus.com and it has the P/N 1614001 codes on them. Everywhere else Iv looked has CAGE CODE 3EZ11 but the ones I got seem to be real when I compare them to other photos

$300 or $50 for "fake ones". Don't really care that they look slightly different. Goes to show you how overpriced these things are

Thank you but I must share a different experience of my own. Now ... I want to say a few things up front. #1 ) I certainly understand the importance of this video for anyone that ends up receiving a set of iron sights that is of this poor of quality. Basically sights like these that under the most extreme circumstances could get you killed by not remaining anywhere near Zero. The fact that these are literally falling apart from the relatively low recoil & abusive energy of the .556/.223 cartridge is ridiculous ! Even if it was used on Full Auto. NO iron sight should dismantle itself under those conditions like these POS have. Also, I think the Chinese government is pretty damn Evil so i am not a big fan of putting any US dollars in their counterfeit hands. So, now the part where i completely contradict myself and sound pretty bad. I think it is ridiculous that these Troy Iron sights are as obscenely priced as they are. I mean ... $200+ ( typically ) for iron sights that are of exceptional quality, Yes ! But that is ridiculous and puts them,out of reach price wise for Many AR owners. So naturally when people see what looks like Troy sights for ( 90% OFF ) they are enticed. Even if they know they are fake they are willing to take the chance. So, I'm not ssying its right but Troy has to understand & expect that they are going to be targeted by Clone manufactures in China. Now .... with that said. I have been working as an importer for years and am very famikiar with the Chinese market. So when i need back up sights and managed to pick myself off the floor after seeing "Troy's" price I noticed the obvious to me "Troy clones" on a Chinese website and took a chance. The "Fake" or "Clone's" Troy sights that I purchased for roughly ( $25/set ) were of exceptional quality and displayed none of the defects or even the same inferior parts that the Fake Troy's that Michael demonstrated on this video. The Fake's thst i received were made very well and were solid. The metal piece or "detent" bar inside my sights that differs from the polymer type on the Real Troys had been replaced with 2 encapsulated ball bearings and function perfectly. No wobbling or anything. The aperture rotation on the rear remained in place & "clicked" when adjusted. So i was blown away with exceptional quality of the Fake Troy sights i received. The only issue i had was when i installed them,on my ( .50 Caliber ) Beowulf AR the heavy recoil would on occasion fold the front sight back down which only happened roughly 10% of the time and only with the ( .50 ). They ran completely trouble free & perfect with my ( .556/.223 & 7.62x39 ) AR's. I did modify the front sight a bit to ensure that it would remain locked under heavy recoil by using a dremel -w- a pointed grinding stone to create a greater depression that forlt the ball bearings in the channel that they are designed to sit when the sights are up. This did not require and disassembly and only took roughly 10 mins. and the issue was solved. The onky thing to pay attention to,is your accuracy on where & how to grind. I created a spherical intention in the shape & size of roughly the first ( 25% ) of the ball bearing detent into the narrow stock trench. Unlike in years past "Some" of the New Chinese clone folks will listen to feedback from unhappy customers and will modify & improve their products if they hear of any quality issues. Sometimes ! I purchased my Fake Troy's roughly 2 years ago which was 2 years after this video and Michael said he had "had them for a while" already so I am figuring that mine are the updated versions. So make up your own mind. If you want the Real Deal Troy's be prepared to drop ( $200 ). Maybe less now a days but dont expect too much off that price. If your not willing to do tge China thing then i would go for the Magpul's. They are good quality, cheap & light weight. Just my 2 cents if they help. Good Luck !

Cage code on genuine sights.