Now I can finally finish my secret service set only after 4 years and thousand of modules😞

Me hoarding 90% less weight weapons and armor is finally going to pay off

The cost of 30 modules is definitely not a bug. If they were ever going to give us more control over our legendary effects it wasn’t going to come without some sort of cost.

Since you can scrap legendary items now, they should add an option to lock items so you don't scrap stuff by accident, favorites helps, but there is a finite number of slots.

Oh man those poor legendary super mutants at the eviction notice event

It seems they are looking at older Fallout 4 mods and saying "this is good, let's do it", because there was a very similar mod in 4 that allowed crafting, removing and adding legendary effects to different weapons. This is good, even with the increased costs, gives more control over the effects and what you can make without so much dependency on luck.

I really wish they add a separate small workbench for scraping legendary items... So we won't accidentally scrap our weapons when using regular workbenches.

Not sure if you noticed, but the 2nd star SPECIAL effects now gives +2 instead of +1. So stacking +2 Luck on all five armor parts could be a nice +10 Luck option for VATS crit full health builds, especially as the new endurance perks might now be able to cover elemental resistances freeing up the 2nd star slot on armor that you might have used for +25 fire or poison resist.

After the pickaxe glitch they said “wait minute I think we got something cooking here”

We need to have a method to mail bound items to same account alts.

This is gonna kill the trade market lol

The cost may be high, but at least it is something that is obtainable, unlike the grolls unless you're incredibly lucky.

Even if the cost stays at 30 legendary modules to craft a 3 star legendary, we get legendaries from enemies and the likes too. Being able to change the legendary stars one by one is extremely big and pretty much all we ever wanted and needed. Can focus our time on actually grinding our godroll armors and weapons now. It's finally not a RNG dream anymore

This is great, I love this. No more spending hundreds of modules for rerolls. I don't mind spending a ton of modules if it means I get exactly what I want.

Legendary gear that's only one star away from perfect just increased in value. Even player vendor shopping is worth it.

Bosses should drop Legendary Modules.

1500 scrip is 30 modules. That’s really pricey. If it’s intentional, then Bethesda needs to remove the daily scrip limits

it doesn't matter what the cost is if you can perfect roll anything how you want. eviction notice is going to be packed every time now. maybe even test your metal. the grind will be real but it will be worth it and account bound is a good idea.

Why would anyone spend the 30 modules to make the initial 3 star Legendary? The cost of adding in the mods would make it cost 45 modules for all 3. What i would do is get the mods you want then wait for the item you want to drop with the 3 stars then simply mod it saving the initial 30 modules. Sure you could get lucky and get a couple mods on the initial roll and save 5 modules if you only have to replace 1 over all 3 but why chance it?

Maybe the cost of Modules is high because they don’t cost any Legendary Cores based on what we’re seeing. Also, without being provided any info, I’m wondering if they’re going to give us the option to buy Legendary Particles with the Legendary Cores. I highly doubt they’ll remove them from the game, and this seems WAY too easy for Bethesda to give us. There’s got to be some kind of hidden grind.

if this legendary crafting does come out with the next update maybe i can eventully finaly swap the bad second star on my auto axe with 40% power attack damage without losing the good first star and third star 😁

Start stockpiling literally everything with 90WR guys 😅

This honestly means so much to me, ive been playing off and on since launch. This game was with me through uni, my first real relationship, and into my first real job Its had its ups and downs but i love that theyre sticking with it, and finally ironing out alot of the kinks. This change makes me think they might be looking into the changes that seem simple enough but i think really improve the experience. Rounding off rough edges in line with what the community wants is huge and it feels like theres been a change in sentiment for whoevers running the show. It feels like decisions are being made by someone who actually believes in and loves the game, i hope im right. And fingers crossed for more good things to come

I really dislike not being able to trade these items between characters or give to friends/sell for caps etc.

Looks like they drew inspiration from the Fallout 4 mods that allow you to craft Legendary mods.

One thing i noticed during turtle's live stream (he didn't notice), is that modules now cost 100 scrip to buy from the rusty pick. That is foul. This whole process is insanely expensive. So now you can only earn 5 modules a day via scripping weapons....

Speed running expeditions is now going to be a thing again as well as any event that will give a lot of legendary items.

It looks interesting but I have a few gripes though. First is that I think they should change mods to be a weightless item so it doesn't discourage people from gathering legendary mods from scrapping and being worried about mod stack weight or being forced to sell or discard mods due to being unable to store them. They should also make the legendary particles weightless like their former legendary cores so we don't have to worry about a bunch of legendary particles weighing us down, and the change of its status to junk, rather to a non droppable item, is not a good thing I would say due to the face that dropping a bunch of legendary particles on death would suck. I know that last change was probably just to be another discouraging factor to utilize the scrap box to force people to feel more like they need fallout 1st to enjoy the game properly, but I think it would have been much more considerate to players if they just treated it the same way legendary cores were like currency rather than another junk resource item to manage. Lastly I'm not a fan of the new the legendary module requirement amount as it is unfortunate that now players will have to decide between scrapping legendaries for potential items or scripping them for modules rather than it being an all in one system like before which adds friction to the player experience and disturbing gameplay flow.

Very happy with this, I think they realized that everyone that started playing from the show quickly lost interest when they realized the only way to get weapons they want is to gamble for the rest of their life. Not only that but it’s super limited each day which is ridiculous, there shouldn’t be a daily limit, if I’m putting in the time I should be getting more. My only complaint is how expensive crafting is now, double digit modules to just make the item, THEN RE ROLL is ridiculous. If this is the route they want to take there needs to be a complete removal and revamp of the scrip limit, which is seemingly being replaced by legendary powder.

THIS is what I've been waiting for. The tremendous grind and RNG really killed the game for me, left multiple times as a result. Only came back recently and now I see this. Hopefully they go through with this and there aren't too many restrictions.

While being able to finally adjust the legendary effects on equipment is awesome, the current costs we're looking at are not. Though I suppose we shouldnt be surprised considering how much Bethesda has already geared the game towards making you have to spend days and weeks of your life farming for just about everything in the hopes that, during that time, you'll give them more money. However, I suppose that now would be a good time to grind for a ton of modules and craft a ton of cheap, light items to scrap later once the change does take effect.

Would the scrapper perk increase particles?

I think that If you scrap the module, you learn the plan

Looks like the Module cost has gone up while Cores are going away. Which, personally, I love.

The potential for this is earth shattering. Near god roll weapons can have that one effect that is dissapointing changed to a useful effect.

im a little torn on this one. once you get the best roll you're after, what else is there to do in the game? you'll be killing things as fast as you can with your build and perfect roll you're after, then you'll roll your armor to the perfect rolls and there will be much less desire to grind for weapons since you cant really improve them anymore. its definitely a cool concept that helps in the immediate future, but im concerned it just leaves nothing else to do in endgame. some people will play either way, but without progression to improve in small bits, i think the game will get boring. you will have reached the pinnacle with nowhere to move upwards and the game could become stagnant for most

I want an explosive gatling plasma please with faster reload 😂

Imagine my shock if there was a new duplication glitch to that comes with this.

Poison will no longer be useless? It would be nice if they made it stack (to a limit) if you are on the PTS you should suggest that!

Hmmmmm seems like the legendary modules will still have a good use with this update. Can’t wait to get me a full set of uny ap wwr secret service armor

The chance to learn is 1% from what I read

They need to triple the stash and double the legendary drops

I believe what they meant by learning plans for scrapping legendaries is just the normal plans. I don’t have all plans for all weapons learned yet and I was learning the ones I didn’t have unlocked yet as I was scrapping basically my entire stash. Won’t let me scrap rewards weapons like cryptid knife, nuka world weapons, etc…

the good part is that there is now a use for all the extra legendaries you get after you've reached the extremely low daily scrip limit. i used to just give them away/drop them at events. most of the time im clearing out my stash from the day before and hit the scrip limit before i've even played. im always hovering around max caps and cant find enough things to buy to make it worth keeping my shop open. it'll be nice to scrap legendary weapons in an attempt to build up legendary effects to put onto things i'd actually use, so i like the legendary scrapping aspect

This new system will be great for Fallout 1st members. Not so great for everyone else. The weight of the new legendary crafting parts is going to be heavy.

Reduced the recoil and base AP cost for the Railway Rifle. Reduced the fire rate and removed the AP cost reduction for the Railway Rifle Automatic Piston Receiver. WTF are they doing to the CHOOCHOO????

Events like Eviction Notice are going to get even more popular. Morns the scrapyards worth of legos I have left behind, due to limits. 🤣

Secret Service armor crafting has become an insane investment into scrappable several star legendary armor 🎉 Just craft a whole load of it before it changes 😂

Scrapping 50 unyielding items to apply unyielding to one item isn't a boon.

Why not just give the ability to roll each star individually? Get the Bloodied that i want but a bad 3 star then just roll that slot at an increased cost per roll.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the increases in crafting prices wasn't an intentional balance change. With the old system, the per-craft cost was much lower, but your chance of getting exactly what you want was so small it was functionally zero. With this system, all you need is any random drop and what, about a hundred legendary modules, and three modules you can buy from player vendors? The entire market wills shift, most people won't have any junk legendary gear in their vendors, they'll scrap every single item because most gear has at least ONE good star. Then you sell that good star as a box if it drops. 30 modules to roll a 3* fixer is a lot, but 30 modules to roll the base of a gun you don't care what's on because you're slapping the boxes you already own onto it? It's cheap as hell. You could make a perfect godroll with less than a single day's scrip if you already have the boxes on hand.

R.I.P to the " Trade only " weapons 😅

Wonder what the end game and trading will look like now. Everybody will have their perfect rolls within a few weeks and then what is there left to do in the game? IMO they should’ve added 4/5 slot for legendaries and reserved this as the only way to get and apply those effects to already existing 3* weapons

The only upside is just being able to attach any legendary to an item, but all the downsides are higher costs and even bigger grind. I hope that changes and gets balanced out.

1:40 So now you're telling me we can ACCIDENTLY scrap our Legendaries ? lol

I feel like this is needed, the market on discord is ridiculous. Everything from guns to apparel people only want love live 3 magazine or leader bobbleheads and they want like 7k of them.

We begged from the beginning when Bethesda said the were going to add legendary mods to let us choose the mods. Instead they gave us a bs random chance roll system. Now they finally add it when the game is getting old, I get the feeling that they are planning on shutting it down soon and just trying make a quick buck before the end.

Damnit, why does there always has to be a negative when there's a change for good? I'm so tired of getting bad with good, why can't we just keep everything how it is and add the new crafting on top of it? Why can't it just be simple? we better get a damned increase on the stash weight limit and a removal on the legendary script exchange if this is the way they're going to play this.

It is expensive to craft, but just think of how many modules we all waste on completely random rolls. One problem i have though is the scrip you earn will be slowed down a little by the need to scrap all of your legendaries to build up a good assortment of mods. They could offset that by adding a chance of getting modules from scrapping as well, or add some to the scoreboard

@AngryTurtle do you have to scrop 3 stars or can you scrap 1 on 2 starts to get the box mods? Thank you.

Welcome to the beginning of the end. I dont care who you are. Going after items is a massive part of this game. So instead of adding actual content (imagine it being difficult at first) that rewards you with modules. Lets just ruin the entire long term grind. Everyone who thinks this is a good change will be faced with reality 1 month after it drops... the now what effect. You'll finally have god rolled weapons with little to no effort. Good news right? No.. so will Everyone. Essentially making everything now feel bland. Some people like hunting, collecting, trading. This deletes content. Doesnt add it.

You know what will be great? That they compensate all of our legendary cores with legendary modules or that new dust thing. That will reward us players that have grind events for so long.

So maybe incorrect but I am reading this as: We want you to be able to pick what stars you want on your personal gear but to farm those effects in the open world. I am thinking crafting will now be less about getting modules/cores and more about what you legendary guns you can scrap.

The cost of crafting a new set or random legendary guns costing 30 has to be a bug because in the post they said the legendary particles would be used for that not modules. Modules are only for applying and replacing new legendary mods on an already legendary weapon.

Needs to be fine tuned a bit. Some of the costs seem outrageous.

Unless they rebalance the cost of modules this is a PAINFUL change for those of us with less time to play and therefore very low ability to gather legendaries at all. Edit: atleast cores aren't suffering to grind up, but modules in large quantities are extremely difficult to build up.

It didn't seem clear to me sorry , does the increase in cost when changing an effect only apply per slot or if i change the 3rd star then decide to change the 2nd star will the 2nd star change trigger the incresed module cost?

Individual star rolling is a change I never honestly thought they would even remotely test let alone add into PTS. If I had bet money I would have gone bankrupt as I would have bet against it.

With this new feature, eviction notice will be the BEST event to learn these mods, as that event drops all kinds of legendary weapons Edit: depending on your view on things, the overall trading of weapons and armor in the game will be less, as everyone will be able to roll their own perfect things.

The removal of legacy weapons were the last straw for me, and pretty much stopped playing since then. But if they're allowing us to finally craft specific effects, that's knowing if it's not gonna be grindy as hell, then may be it's finally worth it to come back and play again. I honestly miss it.

Holy shit this is a massive change, no more massive gambling of modules.

Any word on when this is supposed to go live? Couldn’t happen soon enough. Been wanting this since Beta lol. Also I’m curious to see if changing legendary prefixes on a legacy Dragon will ruin the “legacy” effects like the 419 range and 20% explosive damage. The ones that drop now are two hundred some range and any explosive effects do 3% damage. The one I have is instigating explosive. I’d love to make it two shot without losing the “legacy” prefixes.

as if rolling legendaries wasn't a huge slog in the RNG realm. now by the looks of this it will be near impossible to get a decent legendary item. my advice to everyone is to roll what you want before this change, because when this change drops you can say goodby to making your own legendary equipment.

As a level 3000 who has most of the best armor and weapons, once you achieve those things the game loses all meaning to play and you realize the chase was what was keeping you invested. Maybe that’s just me but I can now only play for a short while at the beginning of a scoreboard or an event with new items to collect, then right back to not playing.

I wonder if you have the perk Scrapper in the Intelligence tree if it will help? The description says that when you scrap items you will get more from it, however its not much but somehting.

Considering I can get like 50~ legendary items in one hour on a private server, its not too bad. This is gonna tank the legendary weapon and armour market sites, thats probably their intentions too.

Notice there’s no legendary cores. What if they’re folding cores into modules and now you can get more from events as well? That would justify/explain the increase in craft prices.

Hi sir! Thanks for the info. What about 1star or 2star items? Are we able to add the remaining stars in individually ?

i got modules and cores to craft about 1.2k Three Star weapons. Now i wonder if i should just burn that away asap. I also would like to know how these changes affect the process of making thorn armor, i just recently decided to make a set of that for a hack and slash build. Am i supposed to wait now or should i craft as much as i an asap. A follow up video about what to do with Ressources now would surely help.

The cost of modules seems cheap. I don't have the ability to count how many modules I have spent random rolling armor and weapons. It seems to make sense to make it more expensive to grind mats for selectable mods. Also love the non tradeable aspect. That makes so much sense.

Oh dang!! I gotta go back and watch ur morning tea video. Was watching Euro Cup. Surprised a new PTS is up alrdy. Awesome!!!

so do you still have trade in for cores as well? So now you got do more?

Please consider an updated cremator 3.0 setup for the new balance changes. Curious if instigating is still the roll for full health, or if anti armor works with dot now

Uhh... I have craft my ss imediately before patch it. jesus 30 module for 1 piece

Interesting but I do not fully understand it yet. Please test Cremator asap if you can!

I think it's a decent trade off. Increasing the price to re-roll the effects while being able to apply whatever effect you want.

*_It's about dang time_* they'd allow us to craft specific effects for our gear, now instead of trying to jump camp to camp hoping to find the weapon we're looking for that's not like 10k - 40k worth of caps. We can work towards making the gear we have the perfect gear of our dreams. *I seriously can't wait for this update to come sooner*

1:56 hooray now I I don't need to go to the legendary script machine to scrap my useless legendary

i better be able to put quad on all the single shot weapons now, the dragon might not be op like back in the day, but a 300% increase to ammo would be crazy

So if you no longer need modules to craft Secret Service armor then what about the other armors like Thorn, Strangler Heart, and the Solar Armor? Are we able to craft those as non legendary onlt needing Vault Steel?

So if you're basically set on weapons and armor we should just be saving scrip for when this update comes out?

Have you tried scrapping the effect boxes to try and learn the effects or just the weapons?

I suppose I better start crafting legendary items and save them; no matter what. That way when this goes into effect I would have a bunch to scrap to get the mods and possible learning the plans. Are the legendary mods usable between weapons or armors?

So now I make an event and got 20 legendary weapons ...for legendary modules i scrap them at the machine but for legandary particles, I scrap them at the workbench ? What a wally is that...since I have over 3000 legendary cores which i use for nohitng? And the limit of the legendary scrip is again 500 per day ? I find great that we can craft our own legendary mods now but the system looks complex and a bit silly. Also remember if you can sale, scrap, craft any item in the game means it can be also dupped.

Question saw a vid the put explosive on energy weapon. Must likely the will fix that but can you now put ts on cremator or thirst zapper

I'm just wondering now Do we cash in all our scrip for legendary modules before next season or wait and save up all our scrip?

When the time comes, I'll farm tunnel of love and scrap every love tap I get, as well as every Holy Fire I get from Beasts of Burden. *** Vampires **** Rapid ***** Durability

well that is pretty cool i wonder if you can just buy the modules you want at the preveyer ?

I like this update, it might be very expensive getting legendary items what you want, but at least it's no longer tied only to luck what you end up getting. Maybe we get even event drops for those new boxes and recipes, that would be so cool, but maybe that's too much to ask.

The gauss minigun base damage is different . Did you have any perks on?