Zach has a message for you: "Hello! At one point I say the mg-42 feed tray was wholesale copied by the M60. I meant to say the MAG-58 (or 240 series). I got excited and made a blunder, and grossly insulted the MAG-58. I apologize to you, my glorious machine gun. Also: I see you writing a comment about how “WWII German MG squads were not set up like that,” or “they did have assault rifles, I can’t believe you got that wrong!”It’s fine, this is a comedy video, and I’m not a historian."

An NV video with a gun as the title. We're eating good, boys.

Love the fact you can hear the Legionnaire “Retribution” faintly in the background when Hermit asked “No retribution?”

In the austrian army the assistand mashinegunner would slide the new barrel in its metal container underneath the gun so when the gunner had to swap it it was right there. Burned my hand once in an exercise because i thought "those were only 200 blank rounds. It can't be that hot" It was that hot

Hunter S. Thompson is incredibly easy to read, so long as you read it in the same intoxicated state he wrote it in.

Zach's gun rants volume 5 is going to be wild.

There's a new MG42 mod by the AWO Team, which has fully animated reloads with a kNVSE set, if y'all wanna check that out.

Another reason the MG34 was used in tanks instead of the MG42 was because you could fire it without the buttstock. The MG42 had its recoil spring in the buttstock so you can’t operate the gun without it. Since the 34 was designed to do LITERALLY everything, they had usage in vehicles in mind. So having it still be operable without the buttstock was a key design feature.

For the mod author: the ancient Roman poet referenced in "Dante's Inferno" is Virgil, with two i's. Vergil is the half-demon antagonist/rival from Devil May Cry.

Zach has an MG42, the Mojave is screwed.

9:41 Subtitle correction: Zach is referring to "Mechanix", not just generic "mechanic's gloves". Mechanix is a brand that makes gloves, from gardening to tactical to construction use cases, that're quite popular.

Something crazier is that I find it hilarious that the older MG’s like the Maxim are still in use. There’s some crazy bastard who basically dual linked maxims together in Ukraine … grandpa maxim will outlive us all

RETRIBUTION!

It’s always a treat whenever Zach goes on one of his gun rants.

You hear someone finally made a mod to make grenade rifles have an arming distance, how Zach pointed out that vanilla grenade rifles lacked?

My mom wanted me to take a look at the scene in Indiana Jones where the guy grabs onto the barrel of a mg42, she thought his hand would have burnt off, she got mad when I just said "no it has a shroud"

The fact Zach spent 10 minutes of this video talking about guns makes me incredibly happy. Nothing on this planet is better than listening to someone talk about something they enjoy and know a lot about.

You had me at MG42

who knew Stimpack-droppings took the form of plasma rifles 🤣 Also how frigging long ago was stimpack 🤔

I heard that during WWII, there were training films created to teach soldiers to only attack when the machine gun crew were changing barrels, which would onle be a window of about 5-10 seconds.

MG-42 is one of the few guns that got it right the first time. The other is the Browning M2. Because John Moses Browning.

"Anything written by Hunter S Thompson is difficult." what a mood

Buddy Chicken is my favorite literary reference!

It's a good day when Mike drops a new video and Zach goes all giddy with MG42. A real treat indeed. Also in 16:47 you can hear a _muffled legion soldier in the distance_

Im not going to lie, knowing that mike was in the millitary and doesnt understand how a gun team works is kinda agrivating. Then i remember that both Mike and Zach were POGs so it slides.

It gets better. Not only did they get it right the first time, but the company that made and designed it, hadn't even made a firearm before.

11:48 Mike just found out why the Sturmgewehr was invented.

"Anything written by Hunter S. Thompson is difficult." Wait......WHAT?! How so? Fear and Loathing was one of the funniest books I've ever read! If you get a chance, you should check out The Curse of Lono by Hunter.

4:15 crash bandicoot when you hand him the bad mustash man's buzzsaw.

tickles me pink how amused Zach is by buddy chicken XD

The need for barrel changing cannot be underestimated; one Brit was caught surpressed in a crater with a German MG (I don’t know which type) that was just unloading around him and never hit him once, meanwhile there was also things like “the beast of Normandy” that described a gun emplacement that was able to change barrels so quickly it really got that title. I do wonder if that’s the origin of the “all bark no bite” because yea, in somewhere like North Africa a sloppy team may achieve little but suppression whilst a well equipped crew could be unquestionably lethal, and even just in a suppressing role it fit German infantry tactics well enabling riflemen to move up. Quite often In military weapons and vehicles you see things like a general machine gun concept fall flat or suffer because their made of compromise, but this certainly wasn’t one of those cases, even if it was a bit heavy and ammo hungry.

I wish I could see (and maybe fire) Zachs' gun collection. I would pay anything. Unfortunatelly all I can offer is home cooking and lego.

That quest with the Hermit, I’m surprised there isn’t something like that in Vanilla. You got Cannibal Johnson and the Khan, sure, but I mean, Vegas and the Strip as-is has only existed for 5 years. Finding some bushman who thought the lights were rads isn’t out of the question.

You guys are my absolute favorite KZfaqrs! You guys are so hysterical Zach is an absolute blast! The excitement he portrayed when he found the MG-42 it makes me so happy!!!

18:58 He's referring to an STI/D when the mod author wrote, "You'll burn up but not in radioactive vapor."

12:40 iirc the doctrine was the support gunners would be riflemen who's goal was to funnel enemy troops into the kill zone of the MG. Maybe that was the role of other squads idr the details too well. Basically you had the MG squad and their goal was volume of fire, suppression and area denial whereas the rifle squad's goal was maneuver.

my dad was a machine gunner during vietnam, and his story was about using one while in a rice patty. Said he was just ripping through ammo and it was red hot but the guy with his stuff wasn't near so just dunked it in the water to cool and ended up boiling the water. Made the dumb joke about how he can suppress fire and make dinner at the same time.

Sometimes when I can't sleep I put you guys on as background noise. Surprisingly nice at low volume!

I love the light hearted gags that come back every now and then like a fart noise playing as it shows Zach's face.

About the water cooled MG's there's an anecdotal story from the brits where they used the maxim/vickers MG during testing to see when it would overheat and they had to cut it short because they were afraid of running low on ammunition or something.

Zach and Mike are the best youtuber i have ever watched. Thanks for providing endless hours of entertainment and laughter and also the gun knowledge

22:10 is perfect fallout new vegas without context material

I think I had to read a bit of The Road back in school. I vaguely remember the guy with a revolver and whittling fake bullets out of wood so that people would assume he’s fully loaded.

Guy who was trained in the Austrian Army as a MG74 gunner (to my knowledge basically the MG3 with a green synthetic stock instead of a black wooden stock). In between gunner and assistant gunner, or MG1 and MG2, as they were called for short, there would be: - the gun itself with a shortened belt in it - 2x ammo crates filed with belt - 2x spare barrels - 1x special oven mitt - 1x spare bolt mechanism (- a can of WD40, our own treat) In two man teams the gunner does the barrel change because the assistant one is keeping it fed from the left, we'd slide barrel (cases) underneath the gun back and forth. The assistant gunner would pick up his Stg77 (basically the AUG) and start firing as the gunner changes the barrel so that fire is maintained (vice versa if something was going poorly for the AG). The only times there'd be more people helping would be with carrying the three legged lafette for it (and more ammo in that case). But that was fairly rare for us since we would mostly train in woodlands/forested terrain in smaller groups of people.

7:30 i was half expecting Zach to say made love

If we were to speak precisely it is about 1200-1500 bites per bark. Also find it interesting how amazingly similar in construction the heat shield is to some of the smgs ive played with. I know they were mostly stamped like the mg-42 and thats why but its still neat, especially how they just have a big rectangular hole in the side like some of the late war “oh shit” smgs that were produced.

I knew i recognized this, it's the LMG in FO76. I love my exploding rounds one, but good god does it chew through .308.

Zach, pro tip. If you see one Cazadore, it is always followed by more, even more aggressive Cazadores, those of which are accompanied by even more.

@10:40 The reason early MGs used water cooling is because the Maxim gun set the standard and all later doctrine was based around it. And the reason the Maxim used it, most of all was because when Hiram Maxim started developing it, he was using blackpowder ammunition, as smokeless hadnt been invented. Blackpowder leaves a lot more heat in the system longer than smokeless, so a thin barrel and water cooling were necessary just to keep firing for more than a couple hundred rounds. When using smokeless the system worked even better, and since it allowed demonstrations of continuous fire for thousands of rounds, it became a selling point. Notably, not all early MGs used water cooling( Brownings 1895, various French MGs) but the Maxim was by far the most popular and widespread.

I'm going to say both MG 34 and MG 42 had more bite than bark. Hella accurate and filled the air with lead

I like the MG42 as well because I view it as the father of all machine-guns even though it really isn't. I enjoy the fire rate , caliber , quick change barrel , stock , sights , multi role usage , and aesthetic mainly

I used a few m240 bravo barrels to boil water for a company of troops, it's amazing how a few red hot machine gun barrel's can boil water in a washed out tar barrel, we had no power at the range and it's on top of a mountain so infrastructure for the military up there is usually brought with but one day they forgot but we sill had a bunch of hot tea so it wasn't too bad

I love the pause he gave at the loading animation

Something I'm sure Zach knows about is the CETME Ameli machine gun. It's an MG42 chambered in 5.56 Unfortunately the quality control wasn't all too great for mass production so they're not really that popular

Too add on a movie reference that would make the MG42 the GPMG of Fallout, is if you find smart tech stuff and add the MG42 into it, then it becomes the Smart MG; or from a certain movie, the M56 Smart Gun; I would love to have it in game.

It’s funny that Zach uses an oven glove to handle hot weapon parts while I have a pair of welding gloves in my kitchen that I use as oven gloves

Can’t wait for the next episode of gun rants NV

I’ve heard that the operator must change barrels every 250 shots to prevent it from losing accuracy. Also it should have a 50 round belt instead of a 100 round belt. Because first off, that ammo drum can only hold that much, and also if you use anything longer than a 50 round belt outside of a static position without an assistant gunner, that ammo belt is going to get snagged on something.

"Buddy Chicken, meet Missus Cactus." . . "Glad that you're acquainted now." . . *Insert random fucking Cazador🪰👺

Fun fact: German ww2 doctrine was to change the barrel every 200 rounds. Early war machine gun crews had 4 people on them, but by the end of the war it had been cut down to 2.

10:30 I wouldnt say it started with planes that we air cooled machine guns, it started with cavalry and colonialism. French machine guns were air cooled so soldiers didnt have to waste water in the desert. The alternative solution was to use a heat sink. The hotchkiss 1914, a wartime derivative of an earlier colonial machine gun used giant brass donuts around the barrel, essentially trading water for mass and surface area. Ot also helped cooling being that it was open bolt. The other Hotchkiss, the Benet-Mercie, was technically an LMG for cavalry use. It was first adopted by the US for frontier use by cavalry, where its light weight came in handy. Its solution was to use a fairly recofnizable heatsink of a cluster of metal fins.

32:31 🎵It's Zach and the Cactus! One's thorny, one's horny!🎵

so the reason the MG34 was being used on tanks while it was being replaced by the MG42 in general use was because of the mountings, the space saving had little to do with it, it was a nice bonus but the main reason came down to that it was cheaper to keep using the MG34 as factories and manufacturers were already making the mountings for the MG34 for use in tanks but not the MG42 and switching over would have been costly and offer minor benefits benefit especially since the MG42 would at that point already be in high demand everywhere so using the MG34 meant greater availability of weapons and no downtime in production as ofcourse they wouldnt have to design, test and retrofit the mountings on tanks in the production line. also something to note you can also tell the difference between an MG42 and the MG34 by their pistolgrips and tigger set up- the M34 has a way more complex trigger as it has both single-fire and full-auto on a very unique double trigger while the MG42 just has a traditional trigger assembly because it only has 1 kind of fire mode that being: I dont want to see you or your friends again for a bit and I am not negotiating

31:53 I think I've heard the Illiad being like that as collective war stories from a history youtuber, the Odyssey is like that too?

i wanted to ear Zach talking about the mg42 yesterday and i got served on a silver plate, what a surprise 😅

The mg 42 was so good at its job that german squad tactics revolved around using riflemen to basically chase people around until theyre infront of this machine gun.

Runs away from giant Tarantula hawks despite having an MG 42 lol

23:13 I was not expecting a Groucho Marx reference, "when her muscles start relaxing up the hill comes Andrew Jackson..." 😂

I think the point of Hunter S. Thompson's writing is to be difficult. Since most of it is based on experience anyway, and it's hard to translate experience to words, and the chaotic nature sorta helps with his drug fueled gonzo journalism style. just my opinion

Zach's Gun Rants, the Return

2:34 probably more likely it was the Quincy infighting that was what caused billy to hide

22:13 I’m kinda surprised neither of them know what a bookmobile is

Legion ends up having D day flashbacks when you fight them 😂

So Zach, they actually made The Road into a movie in 2009 and it pulled no punches

Mike....watching this makes me glad your role in the military was handling water and not dealing with shooting people

Uses a machine gun to cut down and entire tree. I guess you could say he's a..... LUMBERZACH

mike running in front of a loading gun. brought back flashbacks of buddy action rolling in front of my other buddy who was shooting and once dude rolled we called for a sece fire barrels down and chewed dude out XD it was all good though.

The amount of joy i got knowing that zach knows why the germans used the mg34 on tanks versus the mg42 cannot be understated. 😂😂😂

I didn't even know the MG 42 could be modeled into New Vegas.

I was a 240 gunner and an AG we always ran a two man team gunner with a 240 and a 9 mil AG usually has m4 and carries 1 barrel for training usually 2 for service fun note our AGs were required to have one magazine full of tracers for directing fire

Mike learning about water cooled machine guns (praise Hiram Maxim) is great

In this episode Mike completely misunderstanding thermo dynamics thinks that you can avoid barrel heat

I also love this gun so this was like a birthday ice cream cake turned into a video

I'd really like to see places like Good Springs and Novac expanding because of one's efforts to pacify the neighbourhood and make the routes safer. They aren't roads any more and there are no wheeled vehicles to run on them if they weren't catastrophically pitted and broken up. There's a lot of empty houses that still have working roofs people could occupy, assuming we could arrange enough water somehow.

So you can cook bacon with a machinegun and you can cut a tree with a machinegun. Sounds like a very useful thing to have!

I find it funny that Germany went don't fix what ain't broke with the mg 42 and just rechambered it

Yah back in world war 2 most the people still fought with bolt action rifles. Some captains had automatic submachine guns but back then the big issue with those was magazine dimentions. Like the german submachine gun would be issued with 2 or 3 magazines built and hand-fit for every weapon made, which rarely fit well inside other mp40s. Standardization of factory measurement is the big real struggle man.

To be honest, I kinda like the MG-34 better because of the "saddle" drum magazine modification in place of the belt fed system and the cover for the receiver. Looks cooler IMO if it was not so complicated to attach to the gun.

Essentially, the point of those training videos was to remind soldiers that, just because it sounds weird, doesn't mean it's any different in practical terms from any other light machine gun. Although, they definitely lacked touch with reality for a lot of those training videos. For example, the one about destroying tanks which seemed to just forget that high explosive is a thing and the Germans loved to use it whether or not it was necessary

You've heard of Thesus's ship now get ready for Thesus's MG42

"Budda budda budda braap braap!" Sgt. Rock comics, 1978

Enders game and the road are boarding really good books that I enjoyed

Those plasma rifles must have been there for ages. I doubt you'll read this, Mike, but out of curiosity, how large are the save files for this run of New Vegas?

Me, the industrial engineer, mostly interested in the switch from milled mg-34 to stamped mg-42 because of economies of scale for all out war production.

OOOOooooOOOOh! It's me, Octavius (and Boyd), back from the dead! BraaAAAaaains! Nah just kiddin'. I played The Hermit and Vergil here. Always a little embarrassed when people see my old work, mainly cause of the audio quality. I think I was literally using my headset microphone to record voiceover. :P Glad y'all liked them, though! I never did wind up finding Hermit on The Strip in my playthrough, so it'll be fun to see that encounter play out! Glad to have watched up to 325! - The Artist Formerly Known As chris20855

I love the JoJo reference at 31:03 . I never knew Zach knew anything about JoJo, lol

i feel like ima know everthing about gun just by watching yall fr

I felt something was amiss in this little Books Arc and I think it’s Zach’s Book Recs

Isn't there also recorded cases of soldiers using the spent ammo casings of the MG24/42/3 to extract the heated barrels of the gun when the glove was either _missing_ or _not an option?_

Cutting trees with a machine gun should be a job. The job title should be lumberzach