Having grown up in socal, I wonder what happened to towns like San Bernardino, Hemet, Temecula, big bear. The lesser known but heavily populated areas

Temecula resident here. Wondered about this as well. Considering nearby March AFB currently houses nuclear weapons irl; it's most definitely on the target list. All those cities you mentioned are within 30-40 miles away, so we're receiving significant nuclear fallout. No direct hits, but 100% affected.

Canyon laker here we would be somewhat okay

@@glamrockbonnie5983 Was just at Canyon Lake doing boat stuff. Mirelurk haven.

@@timothycreed3452 fo 3 or fo types ?

There's also a nuke I found in game that crashed into a building roof in downtown Boston but it didn't detonate for some reason

@@gregorrogerg1005 That actually sounds interesting, where in downtown exactly?

@@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106 I have no idea I found it once on a play through but idk what building it's in

A neutron bomb could have been what created the Glowing Sea, most likely, but it's confirmed in game that the rest of the city was targeted by the missiles from the Yangzee submarine. Those would have also been low yield, but they were even smaller warheads, so the destruction would have been even less. Most of the bombs deployed in the Great War were low yield explosives, meant to cause as many casualties as possible.

@@TheMaghorn doesn't a neutron bomb leave infrastructures relatively intact? The glowing sea is just a batter wasteland, a big bomb must have hit it. Plus there is a destroyed nuclear power plant there, so probably all that radiation comes from there

From a holotape on the Prydwen: "On the flight here, we passed city after city. Buildings taller than I've ever seen. Some that nearly clipped the Prydwen. And who uses them now? Mutants. Freaks." NYC has got to have been one of those cities. Fallout universe nukes are such that, even assuming a direct strike in manhattan, the entire skyline wouldn't be evaporated. I wanna climb those skyscrapers. Also, if you're a fan of nyc & the apocalypse, the manhattan level in wolfenstein the new colossus is hauntingly well done.

@@jackclark4598 And imagine exploring the old subway tunnels which have been overrun by ghouls and monsters. And imagine walking through the thick jungle-like vegetation of what was once Central Park.

Fuck fallout 4, lore wise that game is the worst to base any assumptions on lore. canon to me stopped after NV

@@kevincho1187 Ok boomer

@@kevincho1187 I think they were more interested in making newer mechanics for the Xbox one during that time then the story I have to say playing it for the first time was awesome but when you get to the end and take over everything in the world with Nuka Raiders then you realize how badly the story sucked and not that many side quests to do. All in all I think they did good bringing newer mechanics in but it cost us a better story with quests. They should have just used Skyrim mechanics if that would have meant a better story with quests in my opinion.

THUS TROGLODYTE DEGENERATION CONDITION!

I’m from around Pittsburgh and you’ve made a great point. All the more, there was still a lot of heavy industry, especially along the river for a long time, it was huge in the 50’s too, the average joe could do quite well with a mill job. The deindustrialization of the area has taken decades and caused massive population movement out of the area, as well as a drain of wealth, and while the city recovered economically but most towns around it didn’t. The collapse of the industrial heartland was huge, so I’d imagine in the Fallout universe the country wouldn’t allow their industrial capacity to be outsourced, that’d be a strategic vulnerability in a world where the major trade blocs are continuously preparing to destroy each other not globalize and the economic shifts that brings. It’s likely they kept a lot of the same economic policies of the 50’s especially as this was key to the 50’s vibe which really arose from a strong economy revolving around a middle class majority.

@@fromthefire4176 I totally agree. In the fallout universe they wouldn't have allowed their major factories to be controlled and subjugated to control from outside forces. So it just makes sense for Pittsburgh to maintain a steel working hub for the US. What I'm surprised to have not seen were pre-war robco factories in the vicinity of the Pitt.

@@giovannicervantes2053 yup lol

@@MissSimone02 i played out the events of the pitt like a movie I even came up with a quote before I went into the hole "let's do some blue-collar work" first fight in the pit for the general laborer outfit picked up in the mill 1 endurance strength and Agility second fight in the hole bombshell outfit as explosives but didn't use explosives final fight the armor that makes you shirtless for fire helmet on top of it to make me look even more badass then came the final dilemma I step into the room with the baby in it I'm all scarred up and s*** wearing a mask my character takes it off and looks down at her and just thinks really this? and I looked at the doctor and I say yeah we'll keep her safe cuz I know I'm betraying Werner but I just know that I'm not going to be killing no f****** kid

So the immersion is working or no?

@@Rad_King I think it's working

@@Rad_King yeah

@@net343 yeah

@@Rad_King yeah

Imagine wasting salt in a post-apocalyptic scenario. -10 INT right there.

Sulphur can restore salted earth.

@@spacebearcadet746 yes, but the White Legs still own salt lake city, so it is still salted

The White Legs pulled a Scipio Aemilianus

​@@denizmetint.462 lol

The place you blow up is HUGE. Places like Toronto and lake Erie are in the blast zone.

@@guadalupearias7118 i “accidentally” hit Toronto about 20 times then

@@dumbidiot5584 "whoopsie-doodles!"

I've actually heard that where you hit is some park in the middle of nowhere, hence why you don't lose karma

@@tangocollective-entropysys6676 Yeah, Algonquin National Park. Canada is so thinly populated, each of us gets like 8 KM square.

It really is a reminder of classic fallout due to it's emptiness and vastness.

I dont get how he says "the radiation levels are not very high". You need a hazmt suit to go there. Even with Power Armor, you still need to pump yourself up with bunch of radx and have a dozen radaway prepared.

@@voilvelev6775 Compared to some other places it's not that bad as far as rad exposure goes. Some places in Fallout games are so radioactive you can die in under a few minutes.

They shoulda mentioned the glow.

@@jaketheberge1970 in the case of Vault 87's entrance it is a matter of seconds

This is a very good point

Wouldn't surprise me either for that to not be any kind of coincidence. Bethesda tipped us off about Fallout 4 almost 10 years ahead of its release in Fallout 3 with The Replicated Man storyline. They clearly had it all planned out from the beginning.

Deepism's Abyss they had synths and the commonwealth figured out but totally missed the whole great writing and rpg aspect of the fallout series.

The Pitt wasn't a good place before anyways, the river in the toxic valley was polluted via the steel industry there alone, then added radiation from the fallout to the mix. I think the Pitt is actually kinda getting "cleaner" with that water, considering it has a ton more steel production and is more radiated than the toxic valley, since no nukes dropped in West Virginia in the first place (except the one nuke to defeat the scourgebeast canonically)

WEST VIRGINIA, MOUNTAIN MAMAAA

Sounds great for a DLC, but not a full game.

Yeah, like a “the floor is lava” kind of DLC, I’d buy it

i agree with everyone else it would make a awesome DLC but would not make a full game

Reverse Metro 2033 / Washington DC

Maybe there could be a story element where the player somehow clears out additional floors or even repels the packs of dogs from an area, as a way of gating access to different parts of the map (and motivating storyline developments, as others move in on the resources made available by opening up new areas.)

Hahaha I’m glad someone else knows the pain. I just wanted a star cap!

I think that's just oversite from bethesda. Nukes tend to explode in the air for maximum damage since if it exploded on the ground most of the explosive energy would be wasted on creating a crater rather than destroying the target.

The ICBM launched in Lonesome Road goes off in the air.

I believe they go off in the air, but some of them made it to the ground, it would make more sense why the whole of America is destroyed, the Craters are probably just them using the bombs for hard targets, or miscalculation.

@@void-master9077 nah most of america is relatively fine, since most radiation barring power plants or some other phenomenon dissapates in around 2 weeks, the reason america is fubar is because fev was released into the atmosphere creating the mutant creatures we see, or weird science shit like big empty. For example russia has 7000 nukes, with a rough explosive range of 50 square miles, doing the math that total would be about the size of texas, but since it's spread out over the whole United States it would only yield a small fraction of the country actually destroyed, we see this in fallout 76 since appalachia is more or less fine, most of the fallout games take place in important places that would be nuked ie california which is already a desert, or D.C which should be obvious why it was heavily nuked it also explains why the mormons still exist since the only target in utah worth nuking is salt lake city which is a tiny part of the whole state leaving the rest decently well off

@@princesstinklepanties2720 Oh really? Then what about The Glow? You know, from Fallout 1? Its literally a freaking crater, created by ground impact.

Rebuilding in that area sounds pretty easy.

@@guadalupearias7118 Not really. For the suburban homes and one- to two-story buildings, it would be pretty easy to rebuild those structures if you have the materials, and considering that suburban homes or other buildings were meant to be built in a short amount of time, it would not be too hard. For things such as skyscrapers (which I’m guessing there would be a fair amount, especially in the center of LA), that would be an entire challenge altogether. The machines necessary to rebuild the skyscrapers would be a fairly large number, and if we were just to rely on scaffolding alone rather than other machines (cranes, possibly robots, etc.), it would still come as an engineering problem getting all of that scaffolding built and making sure it doesn’t just fall over. And considering engineering in general, while the skill/career still does exist, it has noticeably took a dive unless you are in a faction like the NCR or the Followers of the Apocalypse, basically any faction that still has pre-war databases and textbooks. And considering that this is the post-apocalypse, many of the regular materials that pre-war society used on a regular basis, such as steel or glass, would be hard to get, either because the techniques that are used to make the materials is rudimentary or inefficient without the machines, meaning that the machines must be produced first to speed up the process, adding to the consumption of materials and fuel (both of which are not common anymore), or just simply that many of the materials would have to be imported from other pre-war states, adding to the challenge of getting materials due to a low amount of working vehicles, like big rigs.

@@true5382 I was mostly thinking about buildings that were tot that far off the ground like 3-5 story buildings. But it does seem like a total pain to rebuild anything that's higher and unstable

@@true5382 ngl I’m sure it’s possible. To remind you the smallest nations in the wasteland still have relatively intact factories which according to what’s seen in the games they should have the ability to produce cranes even on a small scale. And even if it took 100 years we would eventually rebuild, it’s just what humans do.

@@justalonepangolin8668 LA being so prone to earthquakes only has a handful of skyscrapers, none of which come close to the top 15 tallest buildings in New York. Probably wouldn’t be detrimental to forgo repairing them haha

Salt Lake City has a some huge army depots and a massive Air Force base. It’s also an international flight hub. SLC has way more military presence than a lot of people think.

It is interesting but there could have been a ton of reasons. As others have commented Salt Lake City has a military presence, cities out west tend to have more military presence, thus most Western cities would probably be targeted. Also - the only time atomic bombs were dropped in real life were on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Not Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, or Kyoto. There were of course reasons why this was, but it would be easy to come up with reasons of why certain smaller cities were destroyed over larger ones in Fallout.

It could be because Salt Lake and the region was irrigated by the Mormans. Its likely that if it wasn't the Mormans could have begun to retake the wasteland. Now image that. Mormans rebuilding America.

I thought there was also a lot of tech companies there (im finnish so sorry if im way wrong :D)

Radiation probably wasn’t as bad though, considering that the city is livable and was considered a good enough place for New Jerusalem. What also confuses me is that only 13 major/noticeable nukes have hit the city, while 9 hit area around Las Vegas. And these numbers can’t be messed up, because it comes from the same developer. Maybe the warheads launched at SLC were simply meant to cause more ground and shockwave impact over radiation? Because the military objects in the city would expected to have bunkers and be prepared for nuclear attack in many other ways?

Imagine if its fallout 5 And how many trigger men there are

@Serious Sketch *Obligatory joke about how Detroit looks like post-apocalypse city right now anyway*

@@voilvelev6775 Chicongo looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland too. They even have a ghoul for a mayor.

Fallout 5 = Chicago? I would SO dig that!

@Serious Sketch isn't it decayed enough?

If the legion comes here im saving one bullet for myself

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter

Ave True to Caesar

Hello there good to see a friendly face. I'm missing some supplies so maybe we could trade

Another settlement needs your help I’ll mark it on your map

Unfortunately, since Van Buren was cancelled, it means the lore featured in that game is not canon.

@@dragonbornexpress5650 I dunno, if it was going to go even farther down the F2 self parody route, Van Buren would have been worse than F3 (maybe even 4).

Before Bethesda bought fallout Black Isle studio was making their own fallout 3 code named van buren which Took place east of the Hoover dam and would have had Denver and Boulder as locations with design documents being leaked to the public which can easily be found on the fallout wiki articles I suggest to check them out if you have time

@@In_The_Base forgot this comment was ever made but sounds interesting ill look into it

This is an absolute fabrication. Megaton and The Children of Atom is a reference to the group who worships an undetonated bomb in the film, Beneath the Planet of the Apes.

You’re both right. I mean, honestly the Beneath the Planet of the Apes reference is the true literary inspiration of the Bomb worshipping cults seen throughout Fallout. However, most people are likely aware of the possibility of a nuke surviving a plane crash without detonation, via the real life 1961 Goldsboro crash. Personally, these scenarios are both reminiscent of my last relationship.

@@6thsavage not where I expected that to go, but all 3 are accurate.

Well no, a bomb didn’t just fall off a bomber, a B-52 went down in America due to technical issues, carrying two nukes. Three out of the four triggers activated on one of them.

@@GLARebel because it sheared a tree on the way down which took off the safeties. Just a kind of “dumb luck” thing.

Did I actually mention Detroit? This isn’t the first comment mentioning Detroit.

@@Rad_King so i have a concept for a mod, but it would take place in North Carolina. I know you had a video on certain states, but i was wondering how bad it would be targeted. I live here and we have a couple large military bases, but other than that, i would like your opinion on how bad it would be hit. Love the videos by the way. Keep up the amazing work! (Only asking because you're amazing lore videos.)

@@Rad_King you know what...I think you mentioned Chicago, and somehow my pea sized brain saw it as “Detroit”...sometimes i wonder how I graduated college 😂😂😂😂. That being said, the rest of my comment still stands.

@@Rad_King he did mention detroit, in reference to Pittsburgh

Doesn't ED-E have a lot of info about Chicago? I would assume that is solidly in-canon vs Fallout Tactics, at this point.

Honestly this is now my headcanon too

Some states have even never gotten nuked in the first place. Look at West Virginia for example. The only nuke that hit there (canonically) was by the player in order to stop the scourgebeast queen, which also didn't have a big range considered other nukes (like the one in the glowing sea). And the most bombs on the east coast were most likely aimed at Washington DC anyways

I know this is an older video but... I agree with what you're saying there's one thing I'd like to reinforce in your statement. Boston had a hard target that was capable of retaliating against the Chinese. Most likely the sentinel site was the target and Boston was a bonus

@@jasonanderson291 Thank you for the extra info, and no worries, never to late to help someone learn a little more!

Falllout world solved Earthquakes in 2038 and everyone gets Skyscrappers.

The bowl like geography, also likely would cause pressure waves to be concentrated

Well only parts of it

Only about 80 percent, which is still a looot, but the remaining 20 percent was described as a "radioactive dustbowl" (could be wrong, I remember somewhere in the fallout universe described as that)

@@noodlepotreal after 200 years I would expect the remaining 20% would’ve collapsed into the water

@@_EllieLOL_ hell, after about 10 years it would've. But, weirder has happened. Pittsburgh still exists so...

Actually Brotherhood crossed by it not sure if it is New York City but they saw buildings so high they thought it was going to hit the prydwen. So tell me what other city it could be.

if we covered smaller areas your mom would be #1 most destroyed location

Obviously the real reason American society fell apart after the War was that no one had access to Waffle House anymore.

@@WASDLeftClick Accurate.

Sam'O nella

then salt lake has always been destroyed as it has no waffle house

@@WASDLeftClick The real question we should be asking is if the lack of invention of Waffle House is what ultimately caused the Resource and Great Wars...

Bakersfield gang here

How does it compare?

@@Stuffandstuff974 Well in the summer going outside in Bakersfield makes it feel like you're in a nuclear wasteland, also Necropolis in Fallout is closer to Barstow on the map than the actual location of Bakersfield

@@tophatcat6424 yeah its more like the baker , barstow area

I don't know if this contributes to the topic but am I the only person that finds it odd that San Bernardino or any other city in the Inland Empire doesn't appear or isn't at least mentioned in Fallout? From what I can tell on Fallout 1's map fallout.fandom.com/wiki/New_California the area where the IE should be looks barren and devoid of life as if it never existed. I get San Bernardino or any where in the IE probably didn't appear due to a multitude of factors like the Writers not writing them into the plot, though it is kind of intriguing that there isn't anything left of the IE on the map. Addendum:Uppon further examination of Fallout 1's map, there appears to be like something that kind of looks like some sort of settlement (though due to the beigeyness they could have just be some rock formation) Southwest of Necropolis and Northeast of The Hub. It kind of aligns to where SB would be in real life. So maybe a remnant of San Bernardino did survive the war.

Cause it's funny.

Answered in game. The crater offered protection against the harsh weather the original settlers were experiencing, and allowed them to construct housing that wasn't immediately toppled by strong winds

It's cool that's why

When everything was spewing out radiation for the first 50 years, the crater with a nuke is a way to scare of raiders. "You want to enslave us? Let's see what happens if we start shooting and someone hits the bomb? Or what If I just swing my hammer at it?" (joe dirt style)

Indeed, I’d love to see Dog City in game!

Thanks, stick around, it’ll only get better!

@@Rad_King man you weren't joking I've been watching for a few months now and they just keep getting better keep

and it also probably detonated on the ground, or even penetrated the ground before detonating.

Thank you, things are only going to get better too!

Still wonder what Syracuse is like, because he mentions what I think is the one in Utah

@@saintjames1995 so the nuke that would have destroyed boston is the one on the Yangatze sub

I wonder if Fallout Germany has Imperialist and fascist factions

@@LaneCorbett metro is that way 👉

@@LaneCorbett no it got nuked

@@LaneCorbett I mean I wouldnt doubt it since europe in fallout more or less collapsed even pre war so extremist factions wouldn't be impossible

You should look up Pelosi visiting Taiwan. Or Hunter Biden calling his dad a Baby Rapist... Washing DC is going to be Fallout 3

Im not, It would of been life changing being the ones making them. I wouldn't be talking to normies on KZfaq comments if this was the case.

Not really grafton and other houses in the toxic valley look like the glowing sea sometimes even molten into the ground

Technically, yeah. None of the damage, no matter how much there is, was caused by the apocalypse. Unless you count Welch, which was destroyed by underground nukes.

@@peytonglover3064 But I think what happened to Welch was pre-war, wasn't it? I thought it was a vein of ultracite that ruptured and the AMS Corp kicked out the residents so they could profit off the ore.

@@kill007willi4 I guess it depends on which town. Flatwoods, Sutton, and Helvetia are barely ruined at all. But other towns are messed up pretty badly

@@ashton-ryantaylor5297i was talking about towns in the toxic valley flatwoods sutton and helvetia ar all in the forest

I’d have liked to get even more precise stuff tbh, like the Glow and 87 and such, but I think WV deserves a nice fair shake sometime too

@@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange oh agreed

@@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange FINALLY A COMMENT ABOUT THE ONE MOST DEVASTATED LOCATION!

Really appreciate it man, I loved nthapple so I really take that as a compliment.

Sure thing mate. I’m always looking for ideas.

"the glow" would be super high up there...since the place is "you are dead without rad-away". White house would be up there. uhhh...black mountain too. Salt lake City. also a tangent i just found out and im already typing this. since salt lake city is called that for a reason (large salt deposits) the fallout and radiation would be UNHEARD OF. because the Salt would Dissolve into the water or Silt and keep any ground water or rain water irradiated. and the ground would be so salty and radioactive farming would be impossible too.

I may be wrong,but isn't the majority of the Glowing Sea's radiation a result of a nuclear bomb striking close to a nearby nuclear reactor? IIRC there is a ruined nuclear power plant in the Glowing Sea with a nearby crater

@@chazzcoolidge2654 i believe because of how the crater formed most of the fallout was "contained" within it, so it wasn't released all within the first 10 years, but it leaks out enough that the surrounding area will be contaminated for a long time.

What about I don't know New York the fact that both fallout 3 I believe New Vegas and fallout 4 mentions about new York City that is just a literal crater

Me too. I have hopes that future games and content would give us more details. I feel like they purposely keep some locations from having much lore so they can possibly put a game there without being hamstrung by previous lore.

Oh, but we have . 8) With the mod,of course! There's the mod for New Vegas,where you can visit NYC,and it survived rather well,go look for it. Also, there's mod for Fallout 2,called F2:Texas,if I remember correctly.

Sorry im late but there are 2 ground zeros located in fallout 76, they are both explorable and surprisingly very close to each other. Unfortunately they are nothing like the ones we see in fallout 4 so don't expect much from them i guess. The location of both ground zeros are near the monorail elevator a little far behind Watoga city. Apparently there is a bigger nuke that detonated just off the map of fallout 76 but thats as far as I know in terms of actual ground zeros in fallout 76.

if there was an atlanta game I would be pretty horrified cause I live 60 miles southeast of atlanta

I do it every time for the Riley Rangers!

@@theamazingmeh1759 _ it's free real estate _

I got so pissed when I found out the reward for getting to vault 87 was just a couple radaway in a suitcase, and I think a radsuit.

@@damianbrumfield3626 The ungodly amount of super mutants and overlords isnt reward enough?

@@davidteachout1888 no

Hey hope it made your Wednesday a bit better.

That is not how nukes work buddy they are designed not to detonate even if exploded without Imput that is why abms destroy icbms without making them detonate else what is the point of having abms in the first place 😂

Missiles, nuclear or otherwise don't detonate from just being in an explosion. They have a very specific trigger mechanism

What about the north eastern USA?

@@RafProductions3 what about it? If you only have let’s say 100 nukes to drop on America what would be the best way to cause as much damage as possible and protect yourself. There is no defense against a nuclear war. The best hope you have is to strike first and cripple the countries capabilities to retaliate. In the real world this isn’t possible thanks to nuclear subs that carry enough armament to wipe out the planet. So even if the USA got deleted without launching a single missile military sub commanders have authority to act as they see fit. Each Ohio class sub carries enough nuclear warheads to level any country. In the fallout universe I don’t think this 2nd strike capability existed. So the Chinese or whoever struck first would most definitely am to cripple the USAs ability to launch back. Maybe this is why there are so many in launched nukes in games. Lonesome road and the bunker in fallout 3 come to mind that haven’t been launched yet. Maybe the Chinese first strike worked and was able to knock out some key locations of US launch sites. There isn’t much tactical advantage with attacking cities outside of devastation and death. Out of the areas the North east probably got hit harder as prime targets are DC, Philly, Baltimore, New York and Boston are there. Not to many military bases besides Dover AFB in south Delaware. Most bases in the north east aren’t worth attacking.

@@ozythewise7411 but they probably had thousands of nuclear weapons. Also, IRL, weren’t the two biggest Soviet targets in a nuclear war he NYC and the pentagon? NYC to cripple the economic capital and the pentagon to destroy millitary brass? If you had 500 nukes and wanted to cause the most damage try firing nukes at the north east because high population and lotta important government leadership stuff there

Spinning girl

if you clip out of bounds to the nearby mountains you can see a big crater kinda like the one by black mountain

@@JohnDoe-ps2ke so there was no direct blast that hit the air base? That would make sense.

@@AlphaLegionTacticoolShitposts yeah i think that makes way more sense then it getting directly hit

@@JohnDoe-ps2ke aye true

@@AlphaLegionTacticoolShitposts most nukes don't really leave craters since you detonate then above ground, otherwise a lot of it's energy gets wasted creating a crater rather than causing destruction

It looks clearly like a nuclear crater they had prettty devastating weapons in that world.

Certainly possible. We know for a fact from New Vegas that there is an orbital space laser so it would only make sense that they would have orbital strike platforms.

@@Rad_King in the Broken Still DLC the Enclave used one, not quite powerful, but maybe they were during the war, when properly maintained, or perhaps they used all of their heavy payload during the war. Also there was that painting of a battle on the moon in the Nuka world DLC, the crashed space station and the enclave AI in FO76, for what it seems, the war wasn't as straight, quick and quiet as the overall picture shown...

Who’s happy to see me?

Thats my biggest complaint man. 100's of years and even with all the rads, mother nature would consume the land. It's stupid to think not so

I’ll put it on the list!

@@Rad_King cool!

Give me NV choice and story, fallout 4 mechanics, fallout 3 atmosphere and an epic character like the master/Frank horrigan from the first fallouts and I will be in heaven.

Thanks! Any content you’d like to see?

@@Rad_King dope you responded, your videos have helped me sleep and eat food a bunch of times! i would love a video about notable things of fallout; hidden locations, cool lore, random encounters, easter eggs. The perfect video would be about locations with cool stories.