How GOOD was Cloyster ACTUALLY? - History of Cloyster in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-6)

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How GOOD was Cloyster ACTUALLY? - History of Cloyster in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-6)

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CLOYSTER! The bivalve Pokemon! Cloyster appears to be indestructible but can it really withstand bombs like its Pokedex entry says? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Cloyster in competitive Pokemon.
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
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@FalseSwipeGaming 6 жыл бұрын

12:10 I forgot to put in the silhouette lol but Houndoom is next since it had the most votes from last weeks video.

@drakenstarcross1347 6 жыл бұрын

False Swipe Gaming I do feel like we did this vid already....

@kingofstuff8148 6 жыл бұрын

after that do the trio of suicune raiou and suicune

@jthisidiot2917 6 жыл бұрын

False Swipe Gaming ok we got a hound nextt

@jthisidiot2917 6 жыл бұрын

King of Stuff did you mean suicune raikou and entei?

@danielolivierpepin 6 жыл бұрын

Drakenstar78 Legend nope

@Yeshua_Kristos 6 жыл бұрын

So...if Cloyster is just a Gastly acting as a bivalve, does this make Cloyster a...Ghost in the Shell? I'll see myself out

@lorenzohayes8489 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂 this needs way more likes

@alexandradordzhieva3835 5 жыл бұрын

I don't get it.

@ChasingLions_ 4 жыл бұрын

Ian Yeshua Velunta 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😂

@pugboiremnant7352 4 жыл бұрын

@@alexandradordzhieva3835 Ghost in the Shell is an anime

@alexandradordzhieva3835 4 жыл бұрын

@@pugboiremnant7352 oh what's it about?

@Espeon804 4 жыл бұрын

Cloyster: *Uses icicle sphere* Dragapult: Guess I'll die.

@az-rd3he 4 жыл бұрын

hello again

@r3io4mf 3 жыл бұрын

do you mean ice ball (sphere)

@rafy.h.3108 3 жыл бұрын

@@r3io4mf no. Icicle spear

@rafy.h.3108 3 жыл бұрын

@@r3io4mf SPEAR. THE LONG STICK WITH A BLADE AT THE ENDD

@r3io4mf 3 жыл бұрын

@@rafy.h.3108 it was a joke bro

@KEVINF0X 6 жыл бұрын

Everytime a not fully outclassed gen 1 Pokemon (without megas) is presented here it makes me happy :)

@cjer6040 6 жыл бұрын

I just like it whenever there's any Pokemon that's able to kick all of the butt even without megas XD

@gamermanzeake 5 жыл бұрын

To be perfectly Frank, this is competitive Pokemon battling. Obviously not every Pokemon will be viable. Especially ones coming out of the very first generation of Pokemon. So, it's kind of silly to be disturbed by the fact that most gen 1 Pokemon fall short. Power creep is a stupid term. There's so many Pokemon in the later generations that don't have very much higher stats than the average gen 1 Pokemon. Heck, there are some gen 3 Pokemon with higher stat totals than many legendary. All Pokemon are usable, perhaps not in competitive play, but usable nonetheless. I've even watched people beat games with Magikarp. I am a huge fan of cloyster. However, most of Gen 1 deserve the bench.

@EnriiqueMurguia 5 жыл бұрын

@@gamermanzeake Galar!!

@pksprite6401 3 жыл бұрын

@@gamermanzeake you missed the point of his comment 😂

@jotarokujo3603 2 жыл бұрын

@@gamermanzeake I don't think anyone here was disturbed by gen 1 mons dropping off, it's just nice to see one that was designed well enough to remain relevant. Also power creep isn't a stupid term, it's very accurate. Yes not every Pokémon got stronger but the upper heights of power did increase with each generation, which is exactly what power creep refers to.

@TheRealmDrifter 6 жыл бұрын

An Ice type that doesn't suck? *_Well how about that?_*

@dlaek3906 6 жыл бұрын

TheRealmDrifter wevile is good

@noz9763 6 жыл бұрын

Weavile,A-Ninetales and Kyurem-Black are good too...

@2supermaro 6 жыл бұрын

Mudkipz Those are 4 pokemon lol

@ChauNyan 6 жыл бұрын

Just Breathe There are only so many good Pokémon.

@marcelomarcelo514 6 жыл бұрын

Mamoswine Beats every other ice type

@FreetStighter 6 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, I didn't expect Cloyster to be THAT good!

@rodrigob.3590 6 жыл бұрын

FreetStighter Right! I've never been much of a competitive player myself, so I always assumed that the "best" pokemon were the fan-favorites like Garchomp or Mewtwo. Knowing that a not-as-popular pokemon such as Cloyster is actually pretty good is awesome!

@XEmiyaArcherX 6 жыл бұрын

yeah lots of fan favorite pokemon sucks in competetive (Charizard before megas, piakachu etc although some like garchomp and emwtwo deserve their fame) while some ignored pokemon are insanely powerfull.

@cjer6040 6 жыл бұрын

Well Garchomp and Mewtwo are quite powerful, I don't use any Legendaries, or Megas, so I don't know much on Mewtwo's strength, but I do run Garchomp and it kicks butt. But there are also Pokemon that people won't even think of running that are extremely powerful. Take my Furfrou set for example: Nobody even remembers Furfrou or they think that it's trash, but I, despite me being a cat person, would say that it's my second favorite Pokemon (after Garchomp because it's had a lot of clutch). My set is a Jolly Furfrou with Fur Coat, which is Furfrou's only ability that doubles it Defense stat. Furfrou has a base 60 def, which is poop, but with Fur Coat, it's essentially 120 (idk if that's how stat calculations work lol). Idk what my Furfrou's def IV is because I'm not SUPER competitive either, but for the sake of calculations, lets say that it's 31. At level 100 with 255 def EVs, Furfrou has 219 def x2 because Fur Coat, so it's 438. Then Furfrou has access to Cotton Guard, which raises the Def stat by +3 (x2.5), so in just two turns it has x4 Def. that makes it a whopping 1752 Def. Then it ALSO has Charm, so that it can stall out Swords Dance and lower the opponent to x0.25 attack in just 3 turns. so after just 5 turns, it's already only taking 1/32 of the damage that it'd normally be taking from physical attackers. Add in a Rocky Helmet, which damages the opposing Pokemon if they use a contact move (which is most physical attacks) and they take more damage attacking than they deal. Now you're thinking "That's excellent! But wouldn't it still eventually take enough damage to faint and wouldn't Toxic still destroy it?" and the answer is yes. Unless you run Rest. Rest solves all your problems! Granted, you're a sitting duck while you're asleep, but that won't even matter because they're taking damage from their own attacks while you only lose like 10 HP max. In the last moveslot is Facade, because if they do try to kill Furfrou with Toxic, it's fun to punish them and then sleep! "CJ!" you must be asking, "But what's stopping them from just switching to a special attacker and setting up on you while you're asleep??" Nothing. But you'd be really surprised about just how stupid people are and they just don't switch out and also it's good in 1v1s Here's my Furfrou murdering a sharp af boi: replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1suspecttest-643535568

@orbusg8451 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I never did competitive and I just thought it had high defense and that's it. To be so good that it can even sweep in ubers? And it's not even a legendary? Whew, wasn't expecting that.

@r.r815 6 жыл бұрын

CJdadestoyr one word, Haze

@metathpr4h290 6 жыл бұрын

Woah, as someone who played "seriously" only in Gen 5, I always thought that Cloyster sucked until Shell Smash appeared, but I'm glad to see that he has always been consistently nice, awesome video and happy new year!

@ShinyTillDawn 6 жыл бұрын

Its Skill Link niche works very well in Gen 6 Battle Spot Singles!

@jaschabull2365 6 жыл бұрын

It has always been anice pokémon ;)

@colejackson9660 6 жыл бұрын

Metathpr4h cloister is a beast skill link with icicle spear=guaranteed 125 stabs damage

@sawyerlawler2489 6 жыл бұрын

skill link cloyster is NASTY, get a baton passer that knows swords dance/agility and you can turn cloyster into an absolute monster. Plus i'm.pretty sure shellder learns focus energy at some point

@darthtator3549 6 жыл бұрын

Its nice

@leogh1378 6 жыл бұрын

I got 6 - 0 swept by a Shell Smash Cloyster in smogon randoms this week, so thanks.

@theskullboy8700 3 жыл бұрын

Cloyster standing above your dead team: walk it off

@leogh1378 3 жыл бұрын

@@theskullboy8700 On showdown, oysters eat you.

@theskullboy8700 3 жыл бұрын

@@leogh1378 **blasts Soviet anthem**

@Seinsmelled Жыл бұрын

@@theskullboy8700 😐

@2supermaro 6 жыл бұрын

This was an episode I really enjoyed. Not gonna lie, most of the pokemon you reviewed lately have been lack luster on the competitive side, but this one was very entertaining!

@allewis4008 6 жыл бұрын

I agree, I've loved using this awesome old pokemon since the 1990s.

@MorganKing95 6 жыл бұрын

+Arrior 115 That's probably because if he covers OU Pokémon, we kinda expect the verdict to be "... was great". It's more interesting to see the underdogs. With that being said, it was nice to see a Pokémon again that was actually amazing.

@2supermaro 6 жыл бұрын

StrasbergProtégé Not necessarily. I doubt many people know how all pokemon were competitively in each gen so it's hard to refer to "OU" as there's technically 7 different ones and only a handful of pokemon have been OU forever so it won't be easy to predict, especially since some pokemon were bad or "not so good" but then turned OU due to buffs in gens such as blaziken. Further more, my point was more in a reference to pokemon that don't have any offensive purpose at all (Smeargle, shuckle, umbreon, etc) They do the same thing every gen and that was just simply boring to watch.

@MorganKing95 6 жыл бұрын

+Arrior 115 Because sometimes there's more to it than what meets the eye, and because Smogon articles are not always specific on why a Pokémon sucks. Sure the Shuckle video was dumb, but the Moltres video for example was quite interesting even though it never dropped to NU (though one might have expected it)

@MorganKing95 6 жыл бұрын

+Just Breathe The Shuckle video was dumb, but I thought it was interesting to see how for example Umbreon and Smeargle could drop so badly while being great as a defensive Pokémon another Gen. Also, I'm pretty sure everybody knew that Tyranitar, Scizor, Skarmory, Zapdos, Gengar, and maybe Starmie would be considered great.

@starsoficarus3915 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Togetic and Togekiss ACTUALLY? C’mon I’ve been waiting since Weavile Edit: Scrolling through the comments I’m seeing some other Togefans commenting, I hope our Paraflinching bird gets in!

@kokichiouma5286 6 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting since gengar....

@Pur3AGL 6 жыл бұрын

Th3WhiteLotus Yes please. This.

@bean5566 6 жыл бұрын

Th3WhiteLotus I've been waiting since wigglytuff

@HeyHeyChey 6 жыл бұрын

I hate togekiss but i guess it's a pick that has story so i am looking forward to it

@lordjftw6991 6 жыл бұрын

YESS

@ScarfaceMich 4 жыл бұрын

First artwork of every pokemon looks so old school and brings back great memories. Thanks man.

@EdmacZ 6 жыл бұрын

Cloyster isn’t grinning much these days. It’s currently RU in Gen 7, and isn’t moving up anytime soon. Gen 7 has been terrible for Pokemon. With so many OP Ultra Beasts and Megas running around that can hit hard from the word go, and in some cases get stronger through sweeping, The meta game has no room for the classic set up sweeper anymore. Gen 7 is a new power creep generation, and several old classics just can’t cut the mustard. Breloom, Gengar, Scizor...they can’t keep up. And unless something drastic happens, the meta game is going to be running rampant with Ultra Beasts and Megas for the foreseeable future.

@MorganKing95 6 жыл бұрын

+EdmacZ I just checked out the most recent OU list for Gen 7, and only 46 Pokémon are from a past Gen. Out of those, only 15 are not legendaries/mythicals, pseudo-legendaries, or Mega-Evolutions.

@gengarzilla1685 5 жыл бұрын

Breloom and Scizor, yes, but I really think Gengar with Levitate would have kept up. Gengar's case was less about being phased out by new Pokémon and more about being actively nerfed by the powers that be. Cursed Body is trash on something so frail.

@snekladyrobin 5 жыл бұрын

@@gengarzilla1685 Breloom is unfortunately stuck flailing around in UUBL, as a worse Kartana

@snekladyrobin 5 жыл бұрын

It still has a niche in Ubers, which is kinda neat

@notoriouscasual5004 5 жыл бұрын

Gen 7 indeed has been power creeping indeed. From a Stall Metagame to a Terrain Metagame to the return of Weather Meta, lots of pokemon there are not kind to the set up sweepers, especially in an OU tier dominated by Heatran, Landorus T and Toxapex

@sealandrelevant1310 6 жыл бұрын

I won't give up until we get a GRASS TYPE again! We haven't seen one since... Venusaur, and that was like the second video ever in this channel or so. How GOOD were Tangela and Tangrowth ACTUALLY?

@michaelbesser4984 6 жыл бұрын

Sealand Relevant Sure, that works. I kinda want to see either this or Exeggutor.

@reginlief1 6 жыл бұрын

Sealand Relevant I've been begging for tangela/tangrowth for so long now. Hang in there dude!

@planetomega38 6 жыл бұрын

reginlief1 me too

@allewis4008 6 жыл бұрын

Vileplume and Bellossom too :)

@allewis4008 6 жыл бұрын

We should form a grass type voting committee lol

@FantasyAngel-zj7bw 6 жыл бұрын

You have no idea how thankful I am for lack of innuendo jokes.

@flufflepants362 6 жыл бұрын

Yep

@vlo4829 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, Cloyster is awesome and deserves some respect!

@pauljohnong5924 6 жыл бұрын

THE LIKES OF YOUR COMMENT IS 69.... Nuff said... hope no one else likes this.

@flufflepants362 6 жыл бұрын

Plz no

@diegouy8277 5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I knew I wasn't the only one that thought of kings rock and skill link. Man, its pretty fun seeing people flinch over and over and over again

@haidynwendlandt2479 4 жыл бұрын

I used to cheese people on Pokémon showdown with King’s Rock Skill Link Cinccino back in Gen 5 as a wee lad. ‘Twas a blast.

@ReisOfCake 6 жыл бұрын

All time favorite Pokemon. So underrated by the masses.

@krowking123 6 жыл бұрын

Rumor has it it’s best partner is Onix~

@secretsquirrel7974 6 жыл бұрын

Ayyy

@wildbreadbox1647 6 жыл бұрын

Ahahahahaha

@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf 6 жыл бұрын

haha benis :-DDDD

@R0m0n3 6 жыл бұрын

I only truely valued cloyster after puberty.

@thomaspritchard938 6 жыл бұрын

Shoutout to that trainer couple in HGSS

@MetalGearRaxis 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was Gardevoir ACTUALLY? :D

@ryle5410 6 жыл бұрын

Gardevoir? Isn’t that what people fap to on /e/?

@kristianschuff1723 6 жыл бұрын

Better than Alakazam

@Tetzll123 6 жыл бұрын

no never fuck off

@federicopalacios7439 6 жыл бұрын

Actually Alakazam was consistently better than Garde in every gen except maybe 3, even her mega, which is a really strong wallbreaker is almost always outclassed by either Mega-Kazam, Tapu-Fini and Lele. Garde only niche is her speed control with Icy Wind/T-Wave, Will-o-Wisp and her massively strong Hyper Voice, and you REALLY need to want one of those things on your team to justify using her over those three above.

@KingStr0ng 6 жыл бұрын

Good enough for porn. 😏

@pez1850 6 жыл бұрын

Cloyster quickly became one of my favourite pokemon once I got into competitive (in gen 6), glad you finally covered it, good work!!

@ianchristopher367 5 жыл бұрын

2019. Still works as a Shell Smash sweeper in Gen 7 Ubers. :D

@m.m.2341 4 жыл бұрын

2019. Got absolutely destroyed by one in Gen8 online. No dynamax needed. If you don't have a fast hard hitting answer to it, when the thing shell smashes, you're SCREWED!

@ringoargonaut4923 4 жыл бұрын

@@m.m.2341 conk can check it with mach munch OHKO after rocks

@bevhindle4727 4 жыл бұрын

A cloyster once OHKOed my entire team. At the time of writing this, it was a few hours ago. I came to release my anger.

@nathanf1149 6 жыл бұрын

After houndoom, could we do: How GOOD was Kangaskhan ACTUALLY? I would love this.

@IHeliosI 6 жыл бұрын

Been waiting on Kanga for months now.

@victikirby15 6 жыл бұрын

How good were Misdreavus/Mismagius ACTUALLY?

@reallyspingebillboxpants 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, do that

@Xanit 6 жыл бұрын

I've been suggesting this for a while!

@austingordon3709 6 жыл бұрын

victikirby15 It doesen,t affect Misdreavus.

@RedDragonForce2 6 жыл бұрын

+Benjaminbest2005_Roblox LOLZ!!!

@kurusu1892 5 жыл бұрын

It's here

@videakias3000 3 жыл бұрын

It is a little dissapointing how moves like spikes are usefull in competitive but are almost useless when playing alone. The ai rarely ever switches pokemon so there is very little reason to use spikes. Stealth rock may work a little at some opponents though.

@jotarokujo3603 2 жыл бұрын

Tbf against bigger teams in the late game if you set all your hazards early everything else is going to come in with significantly less hp. Then again by that point just about everything is dying in one hit anyway due to your own Pokémon having EVs. At least you can still use them to some effect if you want.

@austinkessler90 Жыл бұрын

We need a CLOYSTER remake.

@clodcast1316 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?

@marcelomarcelo514 6 жыл бұрын

They were goddam awfull, Even magmortar was NU in gen 4

@Alche_mist 6 жыл бұрын

Currently, Magmortar rules and dominates... PU.

@jeroenb699 6 жыл бұрын

How good was everyone's favourite telekinetic egg coconut tree thing (Exeggutor) actually? I'll never give up.

@reallyradhambo 6 жыл бұрын

I think it´s better for him not to do it and wait gen 7 meta to be fully developed so he can cover Alolan Exeggutor as well.

@ShadowsWrath4 6 жыл бұрын

If Cloyster's shell can resist bomb explosions, WHAT EXACTLY DOES CLOYSTER DO TO SMASH IT'S SHELL? HOLY SHIT.

@kheireddineattala1281 3 жыл бұрын

he just hits the "open" button game freak gave him in gen 5

@xxxViceroyxxx 6 жыл бұрын

But how good was Metapod?

@willingoYT 6 жыл бұрын

LOL

@SpecterReaper 6 жыл бұрын

YoreyC GOD! Too bad it's weaker than Bidoof, which is weaker than Magikarp

@russianbot2179 5 жыл бұрын

Metapod counters Ditto if you time the switch right

@cygnusprime6728 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine trying to kill a metapod with protect, mirror coat, rest, and curse while holding leftovers and you have no super effective moves.

@apdroidgeek1737 3 жыл бұрын

I would imagine better than fully invested parasect

@jacobmelanson3210 6 жыл бұрын

Cloyster is my favourite Pokémon. It's nice to see it get some love. Thanks for doing this.

@gavinparished 6 жыл бұрын

How good were the Legendary Dogs? They are talked about a lot in Gen 2 so talk about them in their own video already. If not. How GOOD was Beedrill ACTUALLY?

@metalhamer1000 6 жыл бұрын

I think this title would be better:How BAD was Beedrill ACTUALLY?

@TheDjpwn3 6 жыл бұрын

I second Beedrill

@nineflames2863 6 жыл бұрын

They are cats. Entei is a lion and Raikou is a tiger. Suicune might be based off of a leopard.

@gavinparished 6 жыл бұрын

I really don't care, they are known as "The Legendary Dogs" so that's what I'll call them

@Liger_Rusto 6 жыл бұрын

There are no legendary dogs.

@Iinneus 6 жыл бұрын

I love Cloyster's competitive history purely because it's always been good, but it's rarely ever been good for the same reasons multiple times. It's really adapted as time's gone on, which barely ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS SERIES has done! Anyway, my vote's for *Murkrow and Honchkrow.* Especially just to see how the video(s) would be handled!

@pokemaniac333 6 жыл бұрын

Part 3 of gen 1 battles soon? Also this was an uplifting one compared to the last few. Nice job Cloyster!

@thedarkestcurse9023 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was Misdreavus/Mismagius ACTUALLY- History of Misdreavus/Mismagius in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 2-6) Please XD

@marceloSSJ 6 жыл бұрын

GS: misdreavus: a good perish trapper RS: misdreavus: medium perish trapper, with levitate DP: mismagius: u turn fuck perish trap, but a good plot sweeper, wowisp has a niche BW: misdreavus: eviolite perish trapper, but uturn exist mismagius: medium plot sweeper, wowisp and hex has a niche XY: mismagius: this witch not gain a fairy type, not either fairy coverage wth moonblast is the same mon, NU spinblocker

@thedarkestcurse9023 6 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the nuke set, Choice Specs Mismagius with Shadow Ball/Dazzling Gleam/Energy Ball/Filler

@stevedarragh7489 6 жыл бұрын

EnderPlayzGames it dead if your ghost type

@PumPuum 6 жыл бұрын

How *GOOD* were *MISDREAVUS* and *MISMAGIUS* Actually?

@GwyndolinSimp 4 жыл бұрын

This thing with shell smash has sweeped my entire team more than once, damn it I hate it :(

@m.m.2341 4 жыл бұрын

Just get one yourself. That's how Gliscor became one of my favorite mons in Gen 5 :D It was so annoying to fight, that I just got my own. And I love how so many people online didn't seem to know it's part ground type and tried electric attacks over and over again :D That's sadly gone starting with Gen 7.

@bevhindle4727 4 жыл бұрын

M. M. Thanks for the advice.

@werrywit 4 жыл бұрын

M. M. I did this with chansey. I have lost all my friends.

@Sergio-lz5jp 4 жыл бұрын

lorelei cloyster was very hard in pokemon blue and from that moment I wanted it on my team, I currently use it in pokemon sword

@Ampharosite 6 жыл бұрын

How G O O D was Exeggutor A C T U A L L Y ? Can we finally get this one done? ;-;

@Pur3AGL 6 жыл бұрын

Ampharosite I think they maybe want to wait until Gen 7 has passed so they can take its Alola form into account for the video.

@sheriffjesus8 6 жыл бұрын

Could we see a how good was Donphan actually?

@gamefannl4963 6 жыл бұрын

Micah Johnson the king of 1v1 but that's not included in the video's

@oles9196 6 жыл бұрын

IMO its one of the best spinner. Its defense and attack are very high and you can assault vest to get a more than decent speial defense. It has STAB earthquake and a great coverage with Thunder and Firefang so it can just stay in battle and kill 1 or 3 Pkm like it is nothing.

@M3rtyville 6 жыл бұрын

Smogon's least favorite pokemon

@YogiTehBear 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see my favorite getting some love!

@AStrategyGameDev 6 жыл бұрын

before watching: I remember him being really good, pretty much sweeps using Ice darts? spears? whatever.

@californium-2526 3 жыл бұрын

Ice Shard (Priority move)

@californium-2526 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, it wasn't Ice Shard, it was Icicle Spear

@alexsano1450 6 жыл бұрын

gonna keep posting until tentacruel gets some love.

@Glasseshoodman 6 жыл бұрын

how good was perpetually misprinted Feraligatr, actually?

@definitelynotabot593 6 жыл бұрын

If we're doing that we might as well suggest the other two as well, typhlosion and meganium too please

@ejcbubba27 6 жыл бұрын

I approve. ✔

@AleXannon92 6 жыл бұрын

Feraligatr is so good now with sheer force life orb boosted liquidation. I love using it.

@noturanic521 6 жыл бұрын

AleXizzed hey dude got any extra HA totodiles?

@supermorenito 6 жыл бұрын

Never imagined cloyster was this good! Great video

@snafutari8799 6 жыл бұрын

Just a fun fact from the crazy world of OMs (other metagames for those who don't know) Cloyster got kings rock and razor fang banned from STABmons. What it would do is somehow get a shell smash off, then spam water shuriken. STAB priority that flinches pretty often is brutal in a meta where offense is everywhere.

@user-pd8ne6vw7i 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Aggron ACTUALLY?

@DirtiestDMusic 6 жыл бұрын

Still voting for Exeggutor or the Gen 1 Battling vid.

@AffyMoon 4 жыл бұрын

I really like cloyster(especially skill link) so I'm glad it was good at quite a few points

@kazemitra3896 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Forretress ACTUALLY? Also, what's the music in the background of your videos? I love it.

@hazyfall1 6 жыл бұрын

The music is listed at the end of the video.

@apdroidgeek1737 3 жыл бұрын

Forretress is one of the best spinner and spike setter in the game nuff said

@alexandrkrupka1766 6 жыл бұрын

Let's start gen 3 already!!! How good was *Milotic* really?!?!

@sebastianshultz1429 6 жыл бұрын

Alexandr Krupka Milotic is bae. ❤❤

@FantasyAngel-zj7bw 6 жыл бұрын

hmmm. . . maybe give gen 7 a bit more time to develop. Milotic is cool tho.

@mauriciomarquez3874 6 жыл бұрын

i want to see dugtrio first before we go to gen 3

@sebastianshultz1429 6 жыл бұрын

Hannibal Which great pokemon are talking about?

@andreivaldez6713 6 жыл бұрын

Milotic sucks after gen 3.

@d.t7997 6 жыл бұрын

Togetic and Togekiss?

@rosanirodrigues557 6 жыл бұрын

Eptastella yes I love useing togekiss in platinum and soul sliver

@derpderp5289 6 жыл бұрын

berry good video, one of my favorites of yours yet!

@Lexanvalentine 6 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see the Gen l part 3 video, I'm really looking forward to it

@t45ty7 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was Ninetales Actually? - History of Ninetales in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-6)

@b99b12 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was Delibird ACTUALLY?

@allewis4008 6 жыл бұрын

I was expecting this for the new year, kind of surprised.

@angelomarasigan4347 6 жыл бұрын

was expecting Delibird for their Christmas upload

@shaneoblack1672 6 жыл бұрын

Presently not so great.

@jennatolls7424 6 жыл бұрын

Silk scarf present and the opponent is done for

@yech3461 6 жыл бұрын

Brown Magic unless it heals them

@Jordy32 6 жыл бұрын

btw it's pretty funny to see how much you've improved since the first videos :D nice going

@HorrorGeek9 6 жыл бұрын

Cloyster is one of the few ice types that does well competitively (Weavile, Mamoswine, Kyrem Black, and A-Ninetaile, on the top of my head, are the only other ice types that I can think of that do well competitively)

@lohgock555 6 жыл бұрын

i knew cloyster was amazing but I did'nt think it was that good :D nice video as always

@iBenjamin1000 6 жыл бұрын

I never gave much thought to Cloyster. There's a bunch of water types even in gen 1 and it seemed kind of...average. Cool to see that it was actually really good. Now I can't wait to use it in xd gale of darkness.

@allewis4008 6 жыл бұрын

He's been one of my fav go-tos since the 90s, but I didn't even know he's been kicking butt up to today. Keep smiling big guy!

@Spoonbles 6 жыл бұрын

How ANNOYING was Cloyster ACTUALLY?

@threeruneblade 6 жыл бұрын

That's gonna be the joke for the togetic/togekiss video with the damn AIR SLASH

@yolked1360 6 жыл бұрын

when I was a kid I loved and first watched first gen pokemon Cloyster immediately became my favorite pokemon. His smug ass smile full of confidence and its inside of a huge cool looking shell WITH SPIKES none the less. Like how can you not love that pokemon?

@DrumRug 6 жыл бұрын

For awhile as a kid, I thought it was spelled "Cloister," but apparently that's an actual word.

@jack.calder 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was the Johto and Hoenn starters ACTUALLY?

@TheNorseCrow 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Tentacruel actually?

@jordanfleming7022 3 жыл бұрын

Cloyster with lightning rod instead of overcoat would be terrifying.

@Xyrofen 6 жыл бұрын

Gonna keep posting about that Togekiss

@user-ky2hl9or4w 6 жыл бұрын

Xyrofen me 2

@shyamallama5076 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD were the Johto starters ACTUALLY?

@KidGamer998 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Sandslash actually???????

@pvbferreira 6 жыл бұрын

KidGamer998 always crap

@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 6 жыл бұрын

Will you be able to get XD footage again soon?

@jefferycrouch4396 2 жыл бұрын

This guy and Vileplume have been my go to since Gen 1. Still remember sitting in the back of my mom's jeep Cherokee 12 hours into a 18 hour road trip to Florida holding a flashlight up to my Gameboy fishing with my brand new good rod and pulling up my first shellder. When I got into online play everyone always slept on some of my pokemon choices but cloyster seemed to always make em pay.

@Lucky-qx6hc 6 жыл бұрын

I really want to see Togetic and Togekiss!!!

@starsoficarus3915 6 жыл бұрын

Lucky 98 Finally starting to get some Togekiss support! I’ve been waiting since Weavile

@jamesathersmith2191 6 жыл бұрын

How good was jolteon pls

@petercarioscia9189 4 жыл бұрын

Cloyster was my first water teammate AND where I leaned about EVs (or whatever they were called in gen1) Because at lvl100 I KNEW it had 300 defense...and suddenly it had 301, and eventually 302...so i knew somehow it was gaining stats. I didn't understand how or why when I was just 11 playing Pokemon, in fact I didn't put 2 and 2 together until I finally learned about those kinds of mechanics when I picked pokemon pack up in college with pokemon Ruby

@squeegie 3 жыл бұрын

It's been 25 years yet we never got Shellder's other evolution form that's part of the Slowpoke's evolution line. Could call it Shellbro, Broyster... lol.

@infinitebacon9021 6 жыл бұрын

How good was electabuzz or electivire actually

@Luablood 6 жыл бұрын

InfiniteBacon saddly not that great... Electivire stats lacks for good solo... has potential in double tho... it lacks the speed of other Electric types or HP IIRC but yeah I cant remember for sure but I know It lacked a certain stat.... either Speed that would make it an attacker or hp/def/SpDef that would make it a tank... could do a search to make rhis post kess shady but Im no expert... just someone who once wanted to use Electivire in Competitive and got disapointed

@ramne6779 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Dusclops/Dusknoir ACTUALLY? =|

@Arlae_Nova 6 жыл бұрын

I feel a mega cloyster incoming for the next pokemon game. I can already see the design: MORE SHELLS!!! I actually would love to see that happening.

@spencerbowden2979 4 жыл бұрын

Trying to train my gen 3 Cloyster. My god what a nightmare. This thing isn’t viable in a fight unless your opponent is a ground type which is likely to be slower than he is. The only offensive moves it learns are Ice type.

@gregorymirabella1423 2 жыл бұрын

what about surf?

@ducklett01god 2 жыл бұрын

@@gregorymirabella1423 level up

@TheAwesomeDarkNinja 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Yanma/Yanmega actually?

@TheFlashzap 6 жыл бұрын

Not to mention it now has Liquidation in gen 7 which eliminates the risk of Razor Shell missing

@Neevkl_7 6 жыл бұрын

so many pokemon benifit from Liquidation now Ferraligator and Kingler now have a very good sheer force water move Barbaracle has a tough claws boosted liquidation eliminating razor shells miss just like Cloyster Armaldo can use it in the rain with swift swim Swanna can run Brave Bird and Liquidation to be full physical instead of mixed and Crawdaunt has a pretty crazy Adaptibility Liquidation

@marceloSSJ 6 жыл бұрын

rly nice, but i dont believe than this make cloyster OU in gen 7

@andrevanderlinden8722 6 жыл бұрын

Cloyster doesnt use liq anyway, because of its basic shell smash sets

@TheFlashzap 6 жыл бұрын

André Van der Linden you kidding why wouldn’t you run that, it’s always Shell Smash, Icicle Spear, Liquidation, Rock Blast

@andrevanderlinden8722 6 жыл бұрын

TheFlashzap id slap rapid spin, explosion, hydro pump or ice shard on it. But thats just my opinion ;)

@abrar8375 5 жыл бұрын

I always use cloyster in Pokemon showdown, and most of the time half the enemy team is obliterated by it, then metagross and marshadow clean up the survivors or the enemy forfeits. Yes, white herb, shell smash, icicle spear, is very nice.

@Poptomist 4 жыл бұрын

Cloyster is a Pokémon everyone loves even if it’s not they’re favorite

@darquezze306 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Feraligatr actually?

@Falzyker 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Dusclops/Dusknoir!!!

@AwesomeMooseSmile 6 жыл бұрын

MrNarfRetsam bad

@tigerman7527 6 жыл бұрын

OU in gen 3-4. PU in the rest

@dan240393 6 жыл бұрын

Incredibly good in R/S/E Nuzlocke's. Stats were still low enough then for Dusclops to be all but immortal. It would have been so much fun if it had been Ghost/Dark.

@sadweedle6832 6 жыл бұрын

MrNarfRetsam yes

@reginlief1 6 жыл бұрын

MrNarfRetsam as much as I love those two, that video will depress me thanks to eviolite

@gobtherookie9046 6 жыл бұрын

Cloyster smiles because he knows he will kill so basically he is smiling and looking into your soul...

@nevik54321 6 жыл бұрын

Do be honest I didn’t expect much for cloyster in the earlier games but it was good back then. What cloyster needs is a water type multi hit move and possibly a mega evolution.

@ToxicFridge 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Forretress actually? I love this mon!

@hajjrogerinho5108 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Togetic (and then Togekiss since gen. 4) actually?

@gengarzilla1685 5 жыл бұрын

Back when it was still physical, this really big part of me wanted to see Cloyster get Water Shuriken. Base 75 STAB priority after Shell Smash is definitely a respectable trait.

@snekladyrobin 5 жыл бұрын

How would a clam use that move? ... Then again, a snowflake can apparently learn a move that requires poisonous arms or tentacles...

@serialdreamer1162 6 жыл бұрын

Id recommend Togekiss, but everyone watching the video would continuously flinch lol. Great video False Swipe - thanks for your awesome (unbiased) reviews!

@doublethan1466 6 жыл бұрын

How good was raichu actually?

@michaellenkeit9898 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD were Togetic/Togekiss ACTUALLY?

@CloudySkies17695 6 жыл бұрын

I’m still waiting for Raichu

@cabrondemente1 6 жыл бұрын

CloudySkies17695 he sucks, video over

@PKMNwww411_MkII 6 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Pikachu too.

@sebastianfernandezruiz8343 6 жыл бұрын

sadly, raichu has always been trash, so this video would be a little bit boring imo

@stevedarragh7489 6 жыл бұрын

CloudySkies17695 please wait

@RDan_ 6 жыл бұрын

Raichu gets severely checked in smogon, but does really good in vgc. Especially specs Raichu (alola) with Rain/Elec terrain

@denzelmacaraig8581 4 жыл бұрын

I still love Cloyster in gen 8. It helped me reach Master Ball Tier in ranked doubles 💛 (used it as counter against focus sash users, grass types, and dragon types haha)

@harmless_xd4107 6 жыл бұрын

History of murkow and honchcrow

@andysgamings6082 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Togetic and Togekiss actually?

@threeruneblade 6 жыл бұрын

AIR SLASH FLINCH

@supaboy339 6 жыл бұрын

AndySGaming S I've been wanting that for weeks

@Zaki-ue3ce 6 жыл бұрын

How Good were Fire Types Actually?. Anyone interested?.

@Casketkrusher_ 6 жыл бұрын

How good WAS Pinsir ACTUALLY??? I'll never surrender!

@ShawayFH 6 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was Raichu ACTUALLY?

@BirdCraftSSB 6 жыл бұрын

How good was Dugtrio actually?

@ResidentTarantino 6 жыл бұрын

You should've mentioned in gen seven, in Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon specifically, it has access to the new move Liquidation via a move tutor. Basically, a superior version of Razor Shell