Whoops! There actually is one VGC placement for Electivire. Jon Hu placed 5th in the Collinsville Regionals with it. His team also had Pikachu! Major Apologies! trainertower.com/vgc-17-collinsville-regionals/
@MapleMilk5 жыл бұрын
Radical. Thanks for sharing with the class.
@nirtheart5 жыл бұрын
False Swipe Gaming JON HU 🙌🌟
@felixlee96455 жыл бұрын
do honchkrow!!!!
@wariotalkingwithoutlungs5 жыл бұрын
Electivire is a goron
@bandanaBrosDandB5 жыл бұрын
Never see you make this kind of mistake, and everyone makes them! Thank you for doing such a good job on this and all your other videos
@FiboSai5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this for some time. Electivire is a shining example of a Pokemon that looks so good on paper but ends up performing miserably. Its stats look good, its movepool looks fantastic, it has a cool ability, but in the end, it fails to do the one thing it should be doing well: Killing things. Electivire will forever be remembered as the pokemon that taught us that "It's super effective" does not always mean you will get a 1HKO.
@shirshanyaroy2875 жыл бұрын
I think this also shows that unless a pokemon is a ridiculously good generalist, it will always lose out to specialists.
@smaragdchaos5 жыл бұрын
Increase Electivire's speed and give it better electric physical STAB and you will help it out quite tremendously
@goGothitaLOL5 жыл бұрын
Iron Fist ability, Drain Punch and Superpower (if not Close Combat) would help too
@mrtable28615 жыл бұрын
If they gave it a fighting typing as well as the moves volt tackle, close combat and mach punch, it would be so much more viable. And it seriously bothers me how gamefreak never considered making the electabuzz line electric/fighting when they based it on both onis (ogre like creatures with immense physical Strength in japanese mythology) and raijins (shintoist divinities that can summon Lightning), gave it mixed attacking stats (well, mostly electabuzz) AND gave it a bunch of fighting type moves. I swear, it's almost like they're trolling us by making all these pure types pokemon who SHOULD be dual typed but aren't because shut up (special mention goes to Luxray).
@yungmuney59035 жыл бұрын
@@mrtable2861 Super Strength =/= Fighting type
@kobyma25 жыл бұрын
Electivire found a place in Pokemon Go of all things, where it's currently one of the best Electric attackers.
@alinepiroutek89325 жыл бұрын
Crazy isn't it?
@antebabic31305 жыл бұрын
Wait do people still play that game?
@starboiklem83815 жыл бұрын
How does pokemon stats work in pokemon go🤔
@alinepiroutek89325 жыл бұрын
@@starboiklem8381 They transform DEF SDEF in Defense, ATK SATK SPD in Attack and HP in a different HP.
@Kyle-ys8ot4 жыл бұрын
Ante Babic it almost has half a billion downloads
@gengarzilla16855 жыл бұрын
I really hope Electivire gets a big break someday, because this is just flat out depressing.
@therattleinthebook3975 жыл бұрын
Play ZU
@ALLMETAL19704 жыл бұрын
Maybe mega elective will make us rue the day in gen 9
@joshuabaldeo39354 жыл бұрын
Still bad in ZU currently aswell :(
@jakedc19974 жыл бұрын
Legit give it Fighting type, a stronger stab, and maybe a new ability like ironfist (Possibly on that one)
@PsyrikAntz9678314 жыл бұрын
Better yet, if you want to make him jump STRAIGHT to OU/UUBL or possibly even Ubers (which is doubtable lmfao) give him an ability that gives all punching moves priority, it’ll take full advantage of its punching attacks! I don’t think he’ll be Ubers with that because he lacks a good boosting move, and to be in the OU metagame, having a great 123 attack isn’t as impressive unless you’re banded. A metagame where Pokémon are gradually becoming stronger than previous generations, this is why it could be hard for Electivire to find his place easily; however, priority oriented punches allows you to not stress about out speeding your opponent too much since there’s a 95% you’ll always go first, thus you can confidently go for Adamant nature and invest in a offensive bulky set to compensate for the above average defenses by investing defensive EV’s, and STILL confidently will outspeed your opponent most-likely. This ability could either be called _”Lightning Fists”_ or _”Flash Fists”_
@TimG578675 жыл бұрын
Ah Electivire. I was one of those noob kids during Diamond and Pearl that read its OU Smogon page and was caught by the allure of its bonkers coverage and it holds the distinction of being one of the few Pokemon I bothered to breed proper moves onto in Gen 4. At the time however, I didn't realize OU had nothing to do with the catridge and that there was an online ladder so fortunately I didn't humiliate myself too much. Electivire, while terrible, will always hold a place in my heart for marking one of my firsts steps in properly understanding competitive Pokemon.
@fernandonguyen11973 жыл бұрын
@@ZyrusSmith ???
@YaBoySheeny2 жыл бұрын
Same as i cause it was always a fave. Still fun to use imo
@JCBro-yg8vd5 жыл бұрын
Now we need to round it out with How GOOD were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?
@knju1monsterhunt6565 жыл бұрын
Seconded.
@TooManyLuigis645 жыл бұрын
thirded
@TheRealmDrifter5 жыл бұрын
As long as it's not Lickitung & Lickilicky
@felixlee96455 жыл бұрын
or leafeon/glaceon!!!
@TheEagleNut5 жыл бұрын
About as shitty as Evire. Weakness to Stealth Rocks killed any chance it had competitively. It's fallen to PU
@gustavorodriguez87025 жыл бұрын
You know what? We definietly wanna keep the trend of Gen 1 mons that get an evolution in Gen 4 Thus, HOW GOOD WAS MAGMORTAR ACTUALLY?
@renatoramos88345 жыл бұрын
It wasn't, end of the video.
@gustavorodriguez87025 жыл бұрын
I know, but I want to know more about its _terribleness_
@moonjelly55 жыл бұрын
Will this be followed by HOW GOOD WERE LICKITUNG/LICKILICKY ACTUALLY?
@blazingexil40033 жыл бұрын
@Jett Lucas Hayes competitively
@yaboidragonitehere11372 жыл бұрын
Competitively. Magmar is not very good. Magmortar is always a lower tiered glass Cannon pokemon
@SlothBrah5 жыл бұрын
I remember when Diamond and Pearl came out, everyone and their grandma were running Gyarados and Electivire lmao
@gengarzilla16853 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the new toy syndrome. I'd have just stuck with Jolteon if I wanted to muck around with the Gyaravire duo.
@tylersoto74653 жыл бұрын
Electrivire is very useful it has enough electricity to power a large city for a year lol
@powerfulberry2373 жыл бұрын
My grandma literally ran that team when she was still alive
@ultimatefirecracker14862 жыл бұрын
@@powerfulberry237 sorry but I laughed at your comment 😂
I’ve been requesting for ages. Let’s go for the opposite. How GOOD were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?!
@TheCaptainFrodo5 жыл бұрын
Booooring
@dez29504 жыл бұрын
Fordo no u
@alzinasexywillis86154 жыл бұрын
@@dez2950 he's opion dumbass
@chamber82345 жыл бұрын
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@Spinwizard1965 жыл бұрын
You are a legend for putting the time into this
@omega50405 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo went twice
@JoeBro9155 жыл бұрын
You’re a real one for putting it in alphabetical order too
@GodlessAnti5 жыл бұрын
I c u bitch
@Dwn4ll75 жыл бұрын
I hadn't seen the unown one thanks
@sussy37784 жыл бұрын
Electabuzz fainting animation on Stadiums always looked funny to me, the poor thing looks like it is having a stroke.
@HunterSash5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to everyone for getting us this Electric Boi But it's time for the fiery boi How good was Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY!!
@xSwiftx45 жыл бұрын
and who comes after that? ...Farfetched?
@acc32095 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to ask for any Pokémon today, I'm just going to thank you all the effort you're putting in this videos Keep going dude💪
@allewis40085 жыл бұрын
That's classy, have a +1 on me.
@MrGatsu4 жыл бұрын
The most memorable thing about Electabuzz is it’s cry in the anime, and Paul’s electevire was a beast
@levibentley66675 жыл бұрын
I don't think Paul would be happy to see that his strongest pokemon (besides Drapion) lies in the lowly land of Smogon's Untiered list.
@gengarzilla16853 жыл бұрын
His Torterra struck me as stronger anyway.
@dabuff13193 жыл бұрын
Electivire is my favourite electric type so even tho he isn't perfect he's still a good mon in my book.
@kabelguy703 жыл бұрын
W H A T A B O U T H I S A G G R O N ?
@kabelguy703 жыл бұрын
@Jett Lucas Hayes Yes, a good majority of his team is, but W H A T A B O U T H I S A G G R O N ?
@Acacius19923 жыл бұрын
@Jett Lucas Hayes Its still better then Silvers team in my opinion
@eydis95545 жыл бұрын
Next week there will be How good were Magmar & Magmortar ACTUALLY? No matter what you say. HI CARL MY SWEETHEART! HAPPY NAMEDAY!
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
Hell yea!
@loganpalardy51475 жыл бұрын
Hopefully
@Coolhand1185 жыл бұрын
Lol ikr
@dmurphy9155 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@maxspecs5 жыл бұрын
Can't have one without the other!
@BigSkab5 жыл бұрын
How GOOD were Magmar & Magmortar ACTUALLY?
@NightmareZerogbs4 жыл бұрын
outclassed by Togedemaru?!? OUCH
@naganut97182 жыл бұрын
To be fair, togedemaru is in NU, a higher tier than other electric types
@Yell0wCheese3 жыл бұрын
fun fact: In gen 6, there was a short lived FU metagame (the prequel to ZU, fuctioning as a tier below PU). In this metagame Electabuzz was the face of the entire tier, it was very fast for the tier, pretty bulky with eviolite, and had amazing coverage which made it the easiest pokemon to fit on a team. It also had very little competition as an electric type. While it might not have been the most powerful pokemon in the tier, fraxture probably took that title, it had something like 60% usage if my mind serves me correctly. That tier was hella fun, i miss it
@Jcub865 жыл бұрын
Now we gotta cover Magmar and Magmortar so... How GOOD were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?
@scoots2915 жыл бұрын
How good was whimsicot?
@sceptilethehedgehog58625 жыл бұрын
How Good Were Magmar and Magmortar Actually?
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
I'm with you
@kayokango5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a simple stat buff would fix the problem here. Unfortunately Game Freak is notorious for not fixing simple problems...
@goldenhydreigon47275 жыл бұрын
You mean like how they're not fixing Sword and Shield
@JSmithBlog5 жыл бұрын
#shotsfired
@ksoundkaiju92565 жыл бұрын
kayokango the most it would get is like 5 extra points as I don't think Gamefreak would give it 600+ in its Stats
@Unknown-gf1ci4 жыл бұрын
@@goldenhydreigon4727 #Iwantsinnohremakes
@goldenhydreigon47274 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-gf1ci Same
@pacoramon94685 жыл бұрын
Poor Electrivire, he has such a cool design
@lolpop21182 жыл бұрын
Pickatchou Cool er design &/ q electivire atk 29 iv sk Jam
@alexanderthegrrrreat67272 жыл бұрын
@@lolpop2118 what
@therider20502 жыл бұрын
@@lolpop2118 should... Should I get help for you?
@guildmasterri59955 жыл бұрын
You should do Piloswine and Mamoswine next. that pokemon has a great desgin and it's still one of the best ice type Pokémon tbh.
@Dan-qp5tq5 жыл бұрын
RinX it is great my problem with it is it’s 0 resistances
@Nosretep5 жыл бұрын
Magmar line is next. It's Electibuzz's counterpart.
@guildmasterri59955 жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep Ah I just wanted to see the history of Pokémon which actually was relevant in vgc in some point but tbh I don't mind waiting for it either
@goGothitaLOL5 жыл бұрын
maybe after next week and next month's patreon pick
@guildmasterri59955 жыл бұрын
@@goGothitaLOL I guess you're right
@marinasofi65085 жыл бұрын
How good were Magmar & Magmortar ACTUALLY? -History of Competitive Magmar & Magmortar
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
Let's upvote all the Magmar comments & it'll happen
@J0S1T0678 ай бұрын
Electivire in the second dlc of Pokémon Scarlet and Purple was given new moves, which are Bulk Up, Trailblaze to increase its speed, Knock Off, and a new 100 power physical attack
@gamerguy4255 жыл бұрын
It fails for the exact same reason Luxray (an extremely similar pokemon) fails; identity crisis over physical/special attack when you want to go one or the other really, not enough speed (95 versus 105 makes an ENORMOUS difference competitively), and physical electric attacks fucking suck. seriously, why does Wild charge recoil when thunderbolt doesn't recoil, has the exact same amount of damage, and has a slight paralyze chance (on top of not making contact)? Not fair.
@alexbluecyndaquil3 жыл бұрын
I know right? Wild charge NEEDS a to be buffed in generation 9! Maybe to 120 like with megahorn? I’m not too well versed in comp. Pokémon so I really don’t know.
@shadowtitanx39623 жыл бұрын
Or fricken remove the Exclusive crap from Volt Tackle because Pikachu does not even use that when it is literally glass.
@user-dq8pg7nl2w3 жыл бұрын
plasma fists good but not many mons get it
@magk25243 жыл бұрын
i hate the amount of pokemon that have like 100 spatk/atk and then have like 80 of the other atk, which means every other stat is lower. it's so annoying omfg
@gamerguy4253 жыл бұрын
@@magk2524 Depending on the moves it knows it's such a waste or bad temptation to use the lower stat which, usually won't work out well without a life orb or something.
@khengevana76405 жыл бұрын
How GOOD were MAGMAR and MAGMORTAR actually? You gotta do the duo
@CosmicFlareYT5 жыл бұрын
Okay, so we got our Yin, Electabuzz/Electivire all charged up for this show. Can we now have our Yang, Magmar/Magmortar all fired up for the next show?
@Jasonwolf14955 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that these guys are some of the best designs too. They deserve so much more power.
@MapleMilk5 жыл бұрын
Or: "The Rise, Fall, and Decay of Electivire"
@blaster.m19434 жыл бұрын
There was no rise...there was a promise...
@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv4 жыл бұрын
The birth, assassination, and cremation of physical electric types.
@fork-man3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv honselty it sucks and is stupid if you aren't a fast or speedy sp,atk electric type pokemon you are screwed
@superflashxmedia77065 жыл бұрын
Let's continue with how good were Magmar And Magmotar actually?
@ajaninembhard3905 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was AuraGuardian’s video ACTUALLY?
@littleman75145 жыл бұрын
Johnny N Better than this channel's Unown video.
@carlosmunozbastias43585 жыл бұрын
@@littleman7514 nnnnnnope
@paulsavage5645 жыл бұрын
@@carlosmunozbastias4358 what?
@trt001YT5 жыл бұрын
That video was banned to Anything goes tier alongside Mega Rayquaza
@RandalfElVikingo5 жыл бұрын
Two words= the shits.
@pacoramon94683 жыл бұрын
One of the few pokémon where all the members of the evolution line are cool looking.
@leonardobarbosatelles27792 жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, perhaps Elekid was the most successful member of this evolutionary line, since it’s been historically good in LC.
@NanaKyoto5 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, how GOOD was Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY next?
@Lando-kx6so5 жыл бұрын
Now you have to do Magmar & Magmortar
@davidtimmer5964 жыл бұрын
Anyone think Electivre would also work as an Electric/Fighting type?
@seabirdflutter2 жыл бұрын
they're really missing their shot at fixing two problems (electivire being crap + having unused type combos) by doing this.
@warmblanket33942 жыл бұрын
Not really, but zaraura, common
@OGrupxe2 жыл бұрын
@@warmblanket3394 Yes really It literally is a bulky, humanoide ape-like punching Mon
@rajkanishu2 жыл бұрын
@@warmblanket3394 zeraora deserves nothing but the worst
@gregorymirabella14232 жыл бұрын
@@rajkanishu why?
@sephondranzer5 жыл бұрын
The decision to drop Electivire’s base speed from evolving, and giving it motor drive to compensate, was honestly pretty stupid. Electivire could have been damn good if it just kept the 105 base speed and had ANY decent ability... EDIT: Damnit someone already pointed this out.
@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv4 жыл бұрын
sephondranzer 95 speed isn’t THAT bad, it’s main problem is that its defense is so GARBAGE that all you need to kill it would be a somewhat sharp broomstick.
@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv4 жыл бұрын
Leavanny The Cute Mantis That’s what I’m saying; though Electivire’s speed is fairly average (95 still out speeds plenty of Pokémon), the real issue is something it shares with Luxray, rather shallow movepools (or rather “movepuddles”) that don’t have good STAB moves nor very strong moves. As well as defenses that would make human skin laugh hysterically.
@KingLucarioxx4 жыл бұрын
I have an electivire in my Heartgold save file with a timid nature and currently EV training its special attack stat
@naganut97182 жыл бұрын
105 spd wth iron fist is what electivire should've have
@WheelStart2 жыл бұрын
Well, electivire is a fat yeti
@Connor_19895 жыл бұрын
How Good Were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?
@microwave89313 жыл бұрын
cries
@dankestranch87383 жыл бұрын
Pretty bad ngl
@ShinMario0985 жыл бұрын
This episode was painful to watch. I feel really bad for Electabuzz/Electivire.
@rabbitguy91765 жыл бұрын
Rawpowered It’s a shame that it doesn’t as strong as its look, yet I still think it is cool, and deserves some love (;-;)
@Flufflemonster5 жыл бұрын
@@rabbitguy9176 If it had more physical defense, maybe Drain Punch or Close Combat, it would have a fighting chance. I lowkey wish Electivire would be Electric/Fighting. Look at those manly arms.
@notscorchingsands97185 жыл бұрын
Why?
@futiffany87405 жыл бұрын
#MakeElectrivireGreatAgain,I love you E-boy.
@librathebeautifulwarmonk12835 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a shame it's so bad
@gmoney94695 жыл бұрын
Electivire was just a sad case of having 20 or so atk less than he needed. I used him a ton when I started playing competitive in 4th. His coverage was phenomenal, but he just had trouble putting things down regardless.
@WithDreday5 жыл бұрын
Electivire needs a 10 point buff in speed and attack. 95 base with paper thin defenses while hitting like a wet noodle is not gonna cut it.
@ksoundkaiju92565 жыл бұрын
Withdreday or maybe buff the defenses
@LG-ii7gl3 жыл бұрын
if it literally just got agility/swords dance it'd be great. It's stats aren't really the problem, it's it's set up move pool. Only being able to boost attack by one stage is not gonna cut it. He doesn't hit like a wet noodle but he doesn't hit like a freight train, that's the problem here.
@fork-man3 жыл бұрын
@@LG-ii7gl when you have pokemon who aren't even pseudo legenday out speeding and out damaging electivire states are a problem yeah it can have a bigger move pool but how far can that alone help he had terrible states limit moves and tricks and finally the nail in the coffin was better pokemon came in to play with more of the former examples
@user-dq8pg7nl2w3 жыл бұрын
power creep hurt a little with zeraora and koko
@kaia.46885 жыл бұрын
Magmar/Magmortar OR Roselia/Roserade, PLEASE Go for it
@goGothitaLOL5 жыл бұрын
Roserade can wait, Magmortar is an almost guarantee
@mio37984 жыл бұрын
It’s sad to see that one of my favorite Pokémon has had such a rough time in competitive battling. Even so, Electivire will always remain one of my favorite Pokémon of all time.
@datrell0065 жыл бұрын
This truly breaks my heart... by far one of my favorite Pokémon definitely top 10!!
@SonBlackHeart225 жыл бұрын
How good was Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?
@pseudonym8345 жыл бұрын
Magmar and Magmortar next!
@trevordp11 ай бұрын
Shift gear would be prefect for Electivire.
@llSuperSnivyll4 жыл бұрын
Electivire: When "It's super effective!" is not effective enough.
@gengarzilla16854 жыл бұрын
I totally want to see someone try Electivire against Mega Aggron, the Pokémon where "It's super effective!" really doesn't mean much on the physical side.
@jeroenb6995 жыл бұрын
They were the 2nd most voted last week. So........ How good were Piloswine and Mamoswine ACTUALLY?
@goGothitaLOL5 жыл бұрын
maybe after next week and next month's patreon pick
@goGothitaLOL5 жыл бұрын
How good was Magmar/Magmortar actually? if you did Electabuzz/Electivire, you might as well do the fire counterpart too, even if they aren't much better then their counterpart also, Aggron and Roserade can wait the week after next week and the patreon pick and Poor Electivire, i feel sorry for it (tho i like Magmortar more)
@MrMarinus183 жыл бұрын
They are made for single player where they are excellent. They learn many high PP medium power moves and their coverage is great. They also are fast, strong and bulky enough to defeats hoardes of weak enemies. This is especially so because they learn flamethrower and thunderbolt quite early. A lot of fire and electric types don';t learn those moves at all.
@primrosevale19954 жыл бұрын
Electivire is definitely one of the most well-designed Pokemon of all time. Honestly all it needs are for some points from its Sp. Atk to be put into Speed and Defense, and for it to get an ability like Intimidate, Galvanize, Gorilla Tactics, Sheer Force, or Volt Absorb, or even Teravolt if you want to go that far.
@angelicacimpoesu49243 жыл бұрын
I think its need specialy in speed motor drive suck because who whant to hit an electric type whit a electric type move
@familyguyfreemoviedownload8314 Жыл бұрын
gorilla tactics evire would actually be so silly lmao
@terrapog85332 жыл бұрын
10 points more speed + giving it Iron Fist would improve it a ton
@dylanbuchanan6511 Жыл бұрын
It really needs a bit more than that. It needs the speed boost, swords dance, Volt Tackle and Rock Head. Yeah, I know you think Rock Head is crazy but with electric being one of the best attacking types in the game, a pokemon with a spammable 120 move of that type with no downside would be great. It would find a niche some where with that and a choice scarf/band
@barkey5741 Жыл бұрын
@@dylanbuchanan6511wild charge is 90 base power and game freak refuses to distribute volt tackle.
@cloutgoblin20235 жыл бұрын
Let’s keep this going with Magmar... how GOOD was Magmar and Magmortar actually?
@DapuffStuff5 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was Magmar/Magmortar ACTUALLY? Time to go full circle on this one
@sputnikgt7105 жыл бұрын
I wish this video covered Zero Used. Electivire is terrifying down there.
@cryingwithrage5 жыл бұрын
That's like an adult beating up little kids. For a pokemon with a BST of 540 that's absol-lutey pathetic.
@butteredsalmonella3 жыл бұрын
It's depressing how Electivire is only viable in a tier with Mareanie, Bronzor and Combusken.
@naganut97182 жыл бұрын
@@butteredsalmonella Yikes... Electivire gone so depressed and insane it started beating up those babies
@deandregreene25875 жыл бұрын
Stat wise: (If Electivire were to get a Mega Evolution) Typing would be Electric/Fighting HP: 75 >>> 75 (0) Attack: 123 >>> 133 (+10) Defense: 67 >>> 87 (+20) Special Attack: 95 >>> 125 (+30) Special Defense: 85 >>> 85 (0) Speed: 95 >>> 135 (+40) Edit: Ability: Adaptability
@gengarzilla16854 жыл бұрын
That actually sounds a little too good if you've successfully baited in an Electric move for Motor Drivem
@chaosbreaker6574 жыл бұрын
In addition, give it a new move. Overcharge Chokehold Power: 100 Accuracy: 100 Category: Physical Type: Electric The user grasps the opponent's neck, then electrocute them with an all-out surge of electricity. Has a 50% chance of paralysis. Edit: I'll also give this move to Luxray.
@deandregreene25873 жыл бұрын
@@chaosbreaker657 A base 100 powered move that is also Adaptability STABbed to 200 for Electivire on top of having a 50% chance to paralyze opponents. This would destroy most Ubers and even the ones that can withstand it would likely be paralyzed except for other Electric-type pokémon, which it can also take down with Earthquake. But, despite it being blatantly overpowered, I don't mind given Electivire's nonexistent competitive use AKA it's Untiered now.
@filthypenguintv49313 жыл бұрын
You should apply to work at Gamefreak and make this happen. Though, while adaptability is nice, I think he would enjoy Iron Fists better
@gamesnig3 жыл бұрын
Itd be better if it gave it 30 HP, 30 attack, 30 speed and 5 SPD and 5 defense.
@MrDylan21255 жыл бұрын
How good was Magmar/Magmortar actually?
@linkspokemon41145 жыл бұрын
Of course
@kluang15 жыл бұрын
Oh yes
@azurai39345 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@user-wy3ow4yc6e5 жыл бұрын
As bad as Elecrabuzz/Electivire
@apollojustice28635 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this one
@CylonDorado5 жыл бұрын
It always bugged me Jynx didn't get an evolution along with Electabuzz and Magmar. I always kind of associated those three since they were Gen 1 Pokes that didn't evolve, and they all got pre-voluitons in Gen 2. Speaking of which, how good was she actually? I thought she was kind of interesting after reading her Smogon page.
@kman84455 жыл бұрын
After the whole Jynx controversy, GF probably didn't want to draw any more attention to the mon. I agree though, it should've gotten an evo.
@YamatoFukkatsu5 жыл бұрын
It's also interesting to note that, like Electabuzz and Magmar, Jynx was a version exclusive..... kind of. In the original Red and Green versions (or Red and Blue outside of Japan), Jynx was only available via an in-game trade. In the Japanese Blue version, however, it was available in the wild.
@caingregory94465 жыл бұрын
It's because jynx was already controversial so they didn't want to draw anymore atention to it
@Cubanboxxerr5 жыл бұрын
They should’ve done Jinx 3rd evolution, but made her a sexy Japanese Ice demon
@aozorahaou26435 жыл бұрын
Blame parents and grown ups fo being too fucking sensitive and blame Nintendo and GF for not coming forward and explaining Jynx isn't meant to be a racist Pokémon it's based off a monster from Japanese Folklore.
@Lrizu2 жыл бұрын
Stat redistribution: Hp: 65 Attack: 130 Defense: 61 Sp. Atk: 105 Sp. Def: 61 Speed: 116 New typing: Electric/Fighting Signature ability: at first i thought of giving him a combination of Motor Drive and Lightning Rod, but realized it would be too OP, so: Fighting Spirit: this pokémon's physical Electric type moves gain a secondary Fighting type effectiveness and the STAB multiplier becomes 1.75x instead of 1.5x
@muzammilibrahim50112 жыл бұрын
HP : 71 Attack : 123 Defense : 61 Sp. Attack : 118 Sp. Defence : 61 Speed : 106 New Typing : Electric/Fighting New Ability : Electric Surge/Transistor Mine is more balanced and remains true to it's lore and history.
@Lrizu2 жыл бұрын
@@muzammilibrahim5011 the stats don't add up, you have 2 more points that it should have
@muzammilibrahim50112 жыл бұрын
@@Lrizu nah it adds upto 540
@plainsight_5825 жыл бұрын
Paul used a lot of pokemon that would become my favorites and Electivire was number I always waited to see him every episode after he evolved
@moonjelly55 жыл бұрын
Because it amuses me to keep track of this, here are the Gen 1 Pokemon who have yet to have a video: Beedrill/Mega Beedrill Butterfree Raticate/Alolan Raticate Pidgeot/Mega Pidgeot Fearow Farfetch'd Dodrio Persian/Alolan Persian Golem/Alolan Golem Sandslash/Alolan Sandslash Alolan Raichu Parasect Venomoth Scyther Pinsir/Mega Pinsir Dewgong Jynx Golduck Seaking Kingler Magmar/Magmortar Rapidash Arbok Nidoqueen Primeape Hitmonchan Hitmonlee Mr. Mime Lickitung/Lickilicky Victreebel Vileplume Muk/Alolan Muk Weezing Electrode Ditto Omastar Kabutops Hypno
@serpentmaster13235 жыл бұрын
moonjelly5 YES! Gotta catch em all! I go through and always like any not as popular gen 1 picks on this list. Please like this coment and help me!
@guildmasterri59955 жыл бұрын
No magikarp?
@serpentmaster13235 жыл бұрын
moonjelly5 also, here's a list of gen 1 pokes I've seen more than 1 comment asking for(near past and present) Magmar Persain Jinx Weezing Muk Ditto Golem Kabutops Our Lord Helix / Omastar Pinsir Butterfree Bedrill Fearow Kingler Sandslash Golduck
@pigyguy5 жыл бұрын
Where's pidgey on that list?
@DragoLucifer2605 жыл бұрын
How good was Magmar/Magmortar actually
@Gallade366395 жыл бұрын
“Too frail, too slow, too incapable to dealing strong blows” You missed your chance
@OGrupxe2 жыл бұрын
What
@markrounseville69985 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite, and this breaks my heart. I wish he'd get better stats.
@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv4 жыл бұрын
Electivire should get close combat and meteor mash for coverage.
@kabelguy703 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv It already has Cross Chop
@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv3 жыл бұрын
@@kabelguy70 While Cross Chop is a good fighting type move, Evire needs close combat for stronger hits.
@kabelguy703 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv And a fighting type itself. While you're here, is there any chance that Evire is good in the story mode of Sinnoh? I plan on running it on a team with Empoleon, Drifblim, Garchomp, Porygon-Z and Drapion.
@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv3 жыл бұрын
@@kabelguy70 I never properly used Evire, particularly because its a trade evolution and I never cared much about Electabuzz, though I always wanted to try it.
@nirtheart5 жыл бұрын
Wow there are A LOT of people voting for *How GOOD was Magnar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?* ... How about *How GOOD was Jynx ACTUALLY?*
@marceloSSJ5 жыл бұрын
AND how about How GOOD was Pinsir ACTUALLY?
@brutalmews5 жыл бұрын
YES I NEED THIS!!!
@gabrielgalvez29775 жыл бұрын
How good was Miltank actually?
@nathanlamont99205 жыл бұрын
How Good was Bird Jesus actually?
@brandondawson40865 жыл бұрын
Im Down for that
@shinyluxray95385 жыл бұрын
Most comments are voting, I’ll take my comment and say, thank you for these awesome and consistent videos :D
@2022irons2 жыл бұрын
Gen 8 Electivire: *It had different surroundings, but it was the same depressing story*
@jaredflores44113 жыл бұрын
If you love Electivire, you probably loved Paul in Sinnoh
@PumPuum5 жыл бұрын
How *GOOD* were *MISDREAVUS* and *MISMAGIUS* Actually?
@AceOfVegas5 жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@brutalmews5 жыл бұрын
Thirded
@reloadpsi5 жыл бұрын
That would be a Mistake.
@timclever85755 жыл бұрын
How good Was magmar/Magmortar Actually (^_-)
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
Hell yea
@N0TS0uh4 жыл бұрын
What if when they didn't lose speed when they evolved had a slightly higher attack and special attack stat, then changed his ability so whenever he uses an electric attack his speed rises?
@Avghistorian774 жыл бұрын
Hm, looking at that, that would be most likely 133 Physical Attack, and 105 special then. I assume by slightly, you mean ten. I think that could be OU material, at the very least, it would be good in UU, or have a niche there.
@Poke-ladd5 жыл бұрын
I remember getting beaten by a Smeargle, Electivire team which used Electrify/ Spore/Imprison/transform Smeargle and lost due to outspeed and life orb
@TerraEmperor15 жыл бұрын
Everyone that voted for Electabuzz and Electavire let's help our Magmar/Magmortor brother's and sisters How good was Magmar/Magmortor actually.
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else is trying to bring all of us together too, so let's just keep looking & upvoting all the Magmar&Magmortar comments
@blackops96965 жыл бұрын
How good was Magmar and Magmortar actually? Do that next please!
@ThePuppyTurtle5 жыл бұрын
Didn't they already do that one?
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
@@ThePuppyTurtle 😑 No
@TerraEmperor15 жыл бұрын
@@ThePuppyTurtle No
@aapomannermaa83565 жыл бұрын
So is it time for Magmar yet?
@dtexdarkus3 жыл бұрын
It would take a lot to fix Electivire nowadays, but I think the 10 point drop to speed is a big part of what really killed it in DPP and lower tiers later on. Even if it couldn’t always get an OHKO, it would be able to outspeed a large portion of the metagame unboosted, comfortably outspeeding the ever common base 100s and even the infamous Garchomp while it was in the tier. It could far more reliably dish out damage, meaning that it wouldn’t be completely reliant on motor drive, and having walls wouldn’t be as much of an issue since it could still snipe faster Pokémon.
@bryanc17723 жыл бұрын
Not just that but an Electric Typing just by itself is just bad.... Bearly any resistances and weak to the common Earthquake is just terrible. I mean Zapdos, Rotom-W and Rotom-W have typings that give them far more better offensive and defensive niches far better than vire could ever dream of
@jayclearmen4112 жыл бұрын
I think Electrizer should have an effect like Light Ball. Where it Doubles It’s SPD, Defense & Special Defense stats!! that will bring him back from the brink!!
@1BlueYoshi4 жыл бұрын
I remember I tried running Electivire on my Electric team in Gen 7 Monotype because I needed another physical attacker besides Koko. It wasn’t pretty. Everything you mentioned was spot on: too frail, too slow, doesn’t get KOs. Once Zeraora was released I dropped Electivire and never looked back for even a second lol
@bryanc17723 жыл бұрын
You also had Thundurus, Elecktross, and Alolan-Golem as viable Electric Attackers. There weren't that many good physical electric attackers sadly in Gen 7. But Dracozolt is now a thing in Gen 8 and Zekrom too but its Uber
@1BlueYoshi3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanc1772 I never really tried the other ones you mentioned, but pre Crown Tundra I ran Dracozolt and unfortunately it was a disappointment. 80% accuracy might as well have been 50% accuracy for how often it hit things in the crucial moments I needed it to
@bryanc17723 жыл бұрын
@@1BlueYoshi Yea thats true although you can use its other abilities if you hate the miss. Gamefreak honestly just hasn't created a lot of good electric physical attackers. They are worse off now since they lost HP ice
@1BlueYoshi3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanc1772 Without hustle it's not strong enough, but with hustle it never hits, although maybe banded with Sand Rush might be able to do something, but it wouldn't work in monotype because setting up sand would not be ideal for the rest of the team. And also yeah definitely, RIP HP Ice. I was trying to think of a way to make Rain Weather Ball work as a way to sorta replace it but although rain is better for Electric than sand it is still hard fitting it on the team
@a1joryj5 жыл бұрын
Get this guy's brother in a video! How GOOOOOOOD was Magmar/Magmortar actually?
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
Hell yea I'm with u. Upvote all the Magmar/Magmortar comments & we got it for Sure
@thatoneguy29605 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was magmar/magmor ACTUALLY
@edwardramos45912 жыл бұрын
Given how they've headlined both Baby forms and new evolutions in the past, I'm surprised Magmortar and Electivire didn't continue that trend and receive Mega Evolutions. Deep six both of Mewtwo's forms (or give it and Charizard one form each) and replace them with these, and the Mag/Elec duo would finally be as powerful as that Blaine battle and status as Paul's ace (respectively) would suggest.
@MelvinStFleur5 жыл бұрын
Poor Jinx not getting an Evolution in gen 4
@gengarzilla16855 жыл бұрын
Looking at the new Jynx video, I'm pretty sure Jynx itself has Electivire and Magmortar beat.
@iBenjamin10005 жыл бұрын
I can't be too upset because Electabuzz is so cool even if it did poorly in competitive. But Persian people be patient! How good was Persian actually?
@jaidencarvalho17615 жыл бұрын
Would love to have Persian soon! Our day will come eventually! Hard to be patient though 😸!
@joshuakim52405 жыл бұрын
Persian in a nutshell: -gen1= STAB critical Slash spammer -gen2= neutered -gen3= fast, weak hitter -gen4= Fake Out spammer or gimicky Nasty Plot sweeper -gen5= Fake Out + U-turn spammer or gimmicky Nasty Plot sweeper -gen6= same as the above -gen7 Alolan form= fast and bulky Foul Play spammer who trolls Metagross, Garchomp, Landorus, etc to death who can also do Parting Shot pivoting...but gets wrecked by Special hits.
@beeniecat94115 жыл бұрын
We need poké cat reviews.
@dubzgamerz39335 жыл бұрын
How GODD were Magyar/Magmortar ACTUALLY! It has to happen!
@No2hISwear5 жыл бұрын
I started competitive battling in the beginning of DP so I was guilty of thinking Electivire was the nuts and spamming it like crazy
@muzammilibrahim50112 жыл бұрын
HP : 74 Attack : 123 Defense : 70 Sp. Attack : 110 Sp. Defence : 57 Speed : 106 New Typing : Electric/Fighting New Ability : Electric Surge/Transistor Also need some better moves like close combat, plasma fists, mach punch, vaccum wave. It is more balanced now and remains true to it's lore and history.
@CloudySkies176955 жыл бұрын
Everyone is talking about The Magby line but I just wanna see that purple one with the big lips So, basically, Jynx. Please? Also Persian, I guess. Please give us the catto.
@jaidencarvalho17615 жыл бұрын
Jynx without a doubt deserves an episode as she along with Golem are the last of the OU tier in Gen 1! I really want Persian as it is my favorite Pokemon and even though it may suck, it still has some uses if you ask me! Hopefully all these Pokemon get episodes soon :-)!
@EpicMark5 жыл бұрын
How GOOD is Magmar/Magmortar ACTUALLY???
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
Let's upvote all the Magmar comments & it'll happen
@Ale-bv3vd5 жыл бұрын
He may be bad in the competitive territory, but I have mad respect and I like this Pokémon so much, he was pretty much announced and talked about in every Gen 4 related media with Magmortar and other evos, and I always thought he was a very powerful beast. And I mean, *he is* but, of course, the competitive territory depends a lot on speed and type advantages, plus tanking out attacks with the slow Pokémon, so it's not surprising for me seeing him this low, it's sadly however. Also, is a bit unrelated, but I like its shiny a lot. That orange goes well with the blue accents!
@thanderhop14895 жыл бұрын
"...aND in ThiS ViDEo wE'lL bE TalKInG ABoUT tHesE COmpeTItIVe FoRmAtS!!" Literally my favorite moment of these videos :)
@junglezone73235 жыл бұрын
See you guys in the Magmar/Magmortar video
@aarokulmala10755 жыл бұрын
Well It seems we are getting Magmar and Magmortar for next week. Im hyped!
@BigBossMan5385 жыл бұрын
I used an Electivire in my playthrough of Sun and hold no regrets. Solid Pokémon.
@majinsama855 жыл бұрын
Was gonna vote for Magmar and magmoarter but i feel like helping the How good was Persian actually croud this week.
@jaidencarvalho17615 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Though Magmar/ Magmortar won this week for sure! Maybe sometime in November we might pull it off though 🐱😸👍!
@bankrollrastaman70605 жыл бұрын
Yup I got them after the patrons pick
@Gardetrace5 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was Golem ACTUALLY? I feel Electivire could be good if it didn't lose speed when it evolves from Electabuzz. If it kept it's speed or got faster, it wouldn't be so bad.
@rossthemoss68275 жыл бұрын
Poor Golem forever the poor man's rhydon :(
@dankeykang82435 жыл бұрын
This is so true! Nerfing speed on evolution is so unfair
@Kyara75 жыл бұрын
@@dankeykang8243 Mega garchomp tho
@mostlysure10775 жыл бұрын
@@Kyara7 normal garchomp is better tho
@asscrumbsmcbumski83695 жыл бұрын
@@rossthemoss6827 err, isn't it the opposite?
@wailmoregd1403 жыл бұрын
Man, a lot of people talk about how much Luxray needs a mega evolution, and it really does need one, but I see way too little people talking about how much Electivire needs one. An all around stat increase and Iron Fist for a mega ability would be a godsend.
@roodlyfbuts80065 жыл бұрын
I caught my first electrivre today and I'm excited. It level up medium fast, and has good attack. Kind of want to get giga impact on it before facing red.