Mika became the definition of “Y’know,when I was a kid,I used to think you were cool.”

The way I felt so happy to see myself- + Thanks for Talking about this Flo,We Really appreciate you work in trying To explain everything and make everything right

Yay The biggest weapon: fame

Don't let fame really makes you childish and not listening to your viewer's feedback. Fame is really a finite element and not something to be addicted at, instead its a thing to be grateful of and push you to do something good for the audience. You're an influencer, not a karen. You're an influencer, not a bad example. Additionally, fame is also, yes, a result, and worrying and focusing about a result before you do something to make that result is considered irrelevant.

Mika rou and Kiaro Yun are acting so childish... The fame really got them

I agree, Flo. Fame is a very risky thing, as it could be good, yet.. sometimes it gets in your head....

This is exactly why I like being part of the smaller side of the gacha community. Sure, I may not get as much views, but I’m able to actually have a connection with my viewers and I can’t let fame get to my head. The gacha community feels so…weird right now. Creators like wisefox and mika using misleading thumbnails/titles is so frustrating to see in this community. And whenever something gets popular, gachatuber will produce as many videos about it like a content farm would, even if they don’t actually care about it. I’m not gonna be one of those “I miss the old gacha!!” Kind of people because I don’t; the bad side of the community was definitely more present during those times. We were definitely more “innocent” in a way. Back then, most videos felt like they had passion put into them. Because we were kids, we didn’t understand/care about something like the algorithm or views. But now we’ve grown up. I really appreciate this video from you. I feel like we NEEDED a video like this at this point.

The fact this is actually true is making me sick. I have a feeling that lots of big gachatubers know that they’re acting like this, yet continue to do so, because they want everything their way, which, in real life, is a pipe dream. These people need to understand that there will be supporters, people providing constructive criticism, the truth and haters. You can never truely have want you want all the time.

sometimes, fame can ruin a person

not just for gacha, but for all social media creators toooo!! i 100% agree with this! also love how whne flo said "they aren't toys you can play with" there was a vid of vinn and xen as paper dolls, which are something you can play with 😭

This is why I'm not entirely dissatisfied with being a small gacha creator It sucks having stuff I work hard on not acknowledged as much as I wish it was but I don't have the constant pressure of thousands of eyes on me and judging me. Being a small creator is also a double edged sword

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

This is genuinely so real 😭Fame is a scary thing

Why don't gachatubers solve matters privately why bring your audience in it??? If your problem is big solve it in private if the person doesn't have social media other than the certain platform use the comments,this method is simple Nobody was hurt the matter got resolved and there was no need to abuse the power of fame. If gachatubers realised this there would be less drama in the community and more creativity. Thanks, for bringing these problems from dark to light flotalendy.hopefully this video will make gachatubers learn there mistakes and horrible actions.

I DIDN'T EXPECT MY COMMENT TO BE IN THE VIDEO- 😭 (Timestamp for it: 3:42) Anyways, I agree with you as always! Fame is not something you can use to cover your wrongdoings, just because you're famous, it doesn't mean you can use your audience to silence others who just try to help you to understand your mistakes by criticising you, we're all human and we do mistakes and gotta own up to them, but using your fan base as a shield it's just wrong. To Mika and some users who may act like her, just because someone criticises you, it doesn't automatically make them a "hater of yours", you gotta understand not everyone is gonna like you, and you need to accept criticism as it helps you grow as a person.

Some Top Gachatubers rn be having the Nehema Syndrome 😭

As a small gachatuber,this is very true,and I agree,the bigger the gachatuber and problematic they are,they can be even more vain,they know they have stans that will defend them,and so they do problematic things without thinking what would happen,they would always use their fans to defend them,instead of solving the problem privately and apolagizing with no problem,they just play the blame game,or dont do anything about it and just guilt trip everyone,and continue their problematic things,when they get more fame they just get more selfish and biased and problematic,you explained it really well.

*lays on the table and loses my mind* CAN THE DRAMA BURN IN ASHS NOW

It’s shocking how when you put it into perspective how known some creators are. Like I shouldn’t be saying this, I’m a small creator, but damn I do not think fame should be put onto kids, especially kids like myself with such severe social anxiety but also online is the only way i can let people know that bo I am not dead and buried

Flo are right about this, I hope that many will take an example from this video even myself, thanks for makeing this video!

Yet, many aspire for fame whether we are aware of the risks or not. No one wants to stay a lowlife all alone, those who due are just depressingly hopeless in themselves. In my view, people online nowadays see themselves as more than human; something better than that, or something else entirely. And with that mindset, occasionally Human Rights aren't followed.

Fame can be a blessing and cursed at the same time. That's why we should be careful in our actions and attitudes to other people. Don't let fame get over to our heads and we need to be humble ourselves. Always remember that all of us are not perfect and fame is not important in our lives.

Yes indeed! Very common! Which is why being popular and famous isn’t always the best as it seems. Sometimes less freedom, more responsibilities, and being able to take feedback and criticism properly vs actual haters. It is really sad that fans are just being used as weapons now. To those fans stop attacking and defending just because they are your favorite. Actually research and fact check their deeds and like Flo said really learn both sides! Yes it is very sad when your favorite youtuber does something bad but they really need to own up to it and actually show some improvement and change to their behavior not being babied by fans.

Solving matters privately is the best piece of advice here, I think a lot of us know that from experience T^T

The way this is a topic that needs to be spread more. Fame gets in almost everyones head, its something some people desire, want and keep. They dont wanna ruin their "reputation" on a problem theyve created. I hope that I myself, a small and young creator wont be influenced with all the fame coming to me throught out my gachatuber journey. ❤😭

Fame is something you should be responsible for. It's pretty sad how the amount of famous gachatubers turned into something so vile and egoistical. When it comes to fame, it starts off as phenomenally good and satisfying but slowly, it eats your maturity and destroys your well being. Fame is so scary.

I've always noticed how certain people don't understand how torturing fame can be. Of course it's cool to be recognized, but they don't remember that mistakes can either inflluence, or ruin your reputation and overall mental health.

It's just depressing how many gachatubers I loved but they got themselves into unnecessary drama because the fame got to their heads and they became entitled. Like Mika Rou, she was inspirational and my favorite gachatuber but she showed her true colors after recent drama, and I hope she learns, but atm, I'm just tired of all this. I pray that ppl understand with great -power- fame comes great responsibility. I hope if I ever get famous I don't get full of myself, I try not to :/ but very nice vid Flo💜💜💜

True, even if it's the biggest or toughest issue, no matter what fame will always be present. And it can ruin the person and it's reputation-

This video hits home as a very young former 'popular' Gachatuber who has been in controversy once before in the past (16 y.o)

I’ve been in this community for almost 5 years now, and the amount of times I’ve seen fame seriously get to a gachatuber’s head is definitely. a lot. ive seen gachatubers who actively deflect any sort of criticism they may receive (my best examples of this would be the old nehema and may are my tv dramas), ive seen gachatubers even go as far as to fake their own deaths during my time in this community. it’s quite interesting how these “idols” can get so used to being defended and loved by their majority of the time already young and impressionable audiences that they believe they can get away with absolutely anything, no matter how wrong it might be

This applies to all types of KZfaqrs actually lmao

Most likely she’s gonna see this as you saying she doesn’t deserve her fame. (She doesn’t)

"Create things because you enjoy creating them, not to chase fame or popularity." I learned that in the hard way...

I often think about this and I’m glad to see someone else relates to that!

this is why as a small gachatuber i am scared of growing, scared of growing because of the toxic relation between fan base and gachatuber, and scared of growing into somebody who’s Toxic also why i typically not try to get into drama; commonly it’s the same ‘gachatuber did bad and unreasonable thing’ more times then not in this community and i honestly don’t have the mental capacity to delve into it aka i mostly find out about dramas thru flo’s channel

Fame seems to really change people sadly for the worst most of the time. Edit: there’s actually a good quote for this ‘With great power comes great responsibility’

It’s sad too. Whenever they get too much fans they start to see their true colors. This is just I’m seeing in some short Gachatubers and Mika

But it’s true,more ppl are getting famous, and toxic at this point Ofc there’s always famous gachatubers that don’t seek problems or try not to have any problems

Honestly this Video really Hit There. Cause it's so Accurate and understandable. Fame ain't for everyone, and shouldn't be use to harm others. Some mistakes in the past people made(including myself) can't be taken back, But you'll have to accept that and move forward in life and better yourself. Realizing mistakes is also a form of growing too.

As much as I wanted fame, constant fame at thay, this was enough of an eye-opener. Well said, Flo. This video is a gem.

She Truly Deserves an Apology...❤ (I Would Loved all Gacga Contents❤)

The paper gacha cutouts tho ..... XD okay sorry. This video is a eye opener. This is what is happening to the community and honestly I do hope people learn from this video Fame will never be an excuse for anyone to harass or demean someone. You have grown so much as a person and I'm proud of you for that. You have learned Alot and it shows with your V tuber model which is beautiful

Very good video flo it was very eye opening as a small gachatuber i agree with what you said! And I appreciate how you talk about these things! Thank you again flo!

How many ukelele's do we have to buy for the toxic ppl abusing their power

Well said flo! Mika was abusing her power in that post. She cant handle criticism at all.

Y'know what? YOU ARE SO RIGHT! I have been trying not too let my WHOLE audience down because of how small my channel is. Now i have a 300 subs and i kinda lost my motivation on making a "thank you" video, also that's probably why i keep saying to my self to make that kind of video TOMMOROW. I hope i can get some motivation as soon as POSSIBLE... (。_。)

As long as we all respect be kind and understand one another but we all need to know not to go and play victim or even the blame game it's not good and I hope soon the drama will all stop so just remember to live one another and be kind and not hurt others we all are human so hopefully this comment helps a bit 😊❤ thank you flo for making this video I realized appreciation it

I used to be famous on another platform. Absolute hell I tell you. Especially when fans create weird parasocial relationships with you, I talked to you two times we aren’t bffs for life

this is explained flo we appreaciate you spreading awareness about this

I personally think that it’s Crob and Mika’s fault. A lot of people didn’t notice, but I have. Crob is manipulating his audience. Although this may not be intentional, all of his actions are leaning towards hatred and he’s using his profile of “small youtuber” as a weopon, just like Mika. His actions are based on hatred, and this hatred is effecting Crob’s audience too. I can also tell Crob is too focused on this hatred but not his own audience. He swears continuously, brings up the topic of (TW: SUICIDE+SH) Suicide and self harm. He mentions these in some videos without a single trigger warning. Crob also says several swear words in his video. Mika’s fans probably watched these videos (Mika's audience is young.) hearing these swear words. I personally think that Mika is also to blame for not handling criticism in an appropriate manner. Her actions were horrible, and unacceptable.

That's why I am never care that I got famous or not. As long I create my storys, I like to see people enjoy my video. Also, you are right. People who don't know the whole event and they use an excuse or lies to insult someone or hurt them without an reason. That's why I will keep my mouth shut because why should I join this drama then?😑(That's my parent advise👍)

Ngl this is the best video i have seen on this topic in this community great job miss

No wonder why some Gachatubers always use their fans to help them, thinking they're untouchable. And I agree with you, Flo. Fame is a very risky thing, and now Gachatubers will sometimes use the fame they've gained to protect themselves. But lots of people don't use their fans for fame, like you. You don't use your fans for your fame, and they must start to realize not everything is about fame and their fans.

Thank you for speaking up about this. Your content is really good and entertaining! ❤

Flo speaking facts once again‼️🫶🫶

Honestly, I’m a little bit disappointed how this community became. I started to follow the Gacha towards 2018, and I’ve always been in the silent part of it. The way his types of influencers act really disgusts me, because they lack of respect for others and their own community I just hope the better for the Gacha community in the future :)

I left the gacha community a little bit ago and just to come back and see creators I used to love to turn out like this is just heartbreaking…

I literally love your channel

Agreed, fame does get into big gachatubers head, I could definitely see that now for sure It is honestly sickening that it does... Sadly

Fame can hurt or help others

I'm glad you talked about this flo😭 and yk the gacha community won't be alive without you bc your a superhero and one of the best ranter (new fans ^v^)

Flo, I know I’m a little late, but THANK U FOR TALKING ABT THIS AND BRINGING THIS UP! 🩵🩵💙💙✨

Flo, you’re awesome. You do epic stuff, dude. Thank you for helping the gacha community.

We had enough drama, and they (I mean Mika and Kiaro) said they are tired of gacha drama too, but what do they do now?I am truly dissapointed in them,I am really sad that this is happening

Thank you for speaking up about it!

I've been in the gacha community for 4 years, and i haven't been growing as much as i usually thought. But i never thought i would see big gachatubers targeting small gachatubers because they think that they are more superior than them, and that they just use their subscribers to target them. Just because your popular than them, doesn't mean that you can just attack them for just a stupid hate comment.

I hope I’m not one of the victims of fame-addict people- I swear the fame is getting to my favourite Gachatubers :(

Flo: *Fame is like a double edged sword* Me: C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

i really agree with "fame is not for everyone" sentence.

Gachatubers and fans when Flotalendy revealed truth about Nehema - 😏😁"Nehema only lovers her fame " When she revealed truth about Mika rou - 😠🤬" We love Mika and you are the wrong not she !" Like really 🤦

"I would rather fall off (metaphorically not physically) than be at the top!" ~Plainrock124 This is my personal opinion. I'd rather remain small as a channel.

When you mentioned Discord, I agree that dramas should be solved privately, which gave me many reasons as to why I use that app rarely, because I always tend to avoid drama like the plague. (People are entitled, immature, insensitive, hypocrites, the list goes on), because we let fame and popularity get the best of us, if we bring it into public, we're involving our audience into the problem, making matters worse, corrupting us in the process at some point where we use it as a weapon. Like you said, people will use fame for their benefit to control their audience and their beliefs of what they should do and not do, abusing their parasocial relationships onto them, since they're willing to defend their idols because of their talent. Thanks for attending my TED TALK.

the most true commentary on situations like these i've seen so far

Reminds me of celebrity culture, except they mostly get away with everything they did, and their fans continue to glaze and sugarcoat their idol. If you call them out, they attack you and you’re done.

Honestly this video is the perfect example of how much fame can change someone if it’s given to the wrong person.Its like feeding a beast .The more it gets the more it gets FULL of them selfs.I honestly think people need to reflect and also think twice b4 doing anything.Especially if your seen as an idol.And if u apologies..Take it srsly making a joke out of it makes it look less real.And more fake.

I really hope I don’t end up like them when I become famous. Pride is a deadly sin and I often fall for it

I’m now just finding out about your channel and man the drama is messed up.

Who knew this could happen. Honestly.

Je vois ce que tu veux dire dans cette vidéo, et c'est super cool que tu informes et explique certaines choses importantes 👍🌟

Gacha community now will never have no drama. Most of the majoy famous gqcha youtubers now fame has gone straight to their heads. Eventually, due to this drama i believe that the gacha community will be forgotton in the long. Future.

Hey flo, im not trying to be mean or anything but i would like to explain something. In these past few months i have noticed something. When you are using examples i usally see old / new argument that you or othergatchatubers have been in and talk more abt them then the actual topic. Sorry if i sound mean i just wanted to share this 😅. But i understand that bigger youtubers use fame to there advatage ( not all )

It’s just crazy how Mika is so talented but she uses fame wrong, which inflicts on others, hope one day she realizes and improves..

I agree.. Like big gachatubers r not always looks like we think :( Man i feel like i wanted to give flo a big hug srsly..

Tbh at this point Flo should start doing the 7 deadly sins as gachatubers since theres so many people who (Mostly) represent the 7 deadly sins (Just a few of them

It’s sad on how many people abuse their power.

That is so true. Sadly, we had to accept the reality.

I got in time? OMG I GOT RIGHT IN TIME 🕰️

Its weird to see most of the sides to this, cause i started my acc in November and my channel has been great in my eyes. But i always get worried if i mess up or "get cancelled" cause i did one slip up. I love this community but the problems between othe gachatubers that hasnt been solved, using their fans as shields, or just getting blamed for something that theyre still getting blacklashed for after they learned their lesson, just gets exhausting. I still act like a fan to my favorite idols and i hope i dont become a jerk to others if i ever become big for this reason.

This has been a problem for all of human history, look back at the Greeks, famous athletes and warriors and that let their fame go to their heads quickly became arrogant and thus, hated by the people who used to love them. However, many famous Gacha tubers are children or at least young teens. Children can't comprehend "fame" and teens are already hormonal messes, to add the pressure of "being a good influence" to that doesn't help. Obviously, this isn't to defend people who have made terrible decisions and have done terrible things, but I think we need to understand that some of them are children, not adults with fully developed brains. The point of this comment isn't to say "oh, they're kids, let kids be kids," because no, kids shouldn't have phones or access to the Internet, but that's another story for another time, the point of this comment is to say "this isn't a new thing, this phenomenon has existed for thousands of years "

I Agree With Everything You Said Fame Can Get Easly Over Creators (Not Olny Gacha Comunity) Also This Is Why I'm Scared To Be Popular These Days

CORRUPTION is a concept that truly can't be erase, only weaken, it's inside all of us waiting to be awakened And with FAME on its side we gonna have a bad time

This is becoming a problem for any kind of Gachatubers, even ranters. Let's take Flo and her 17 minute rant video for example. A lot of viewers were excitedly waiting on that video just to see that it looked like Flo was siding with Wise Fox when she clearly said she was netural. This caused a lot of dissapointment not just to the viewers, but also to Mika because she felt like she was betrayed. Being famous can have it's benefits, but also it's downfalls. (I'll probably make a video regarding Flo's neturality in the drama)

I feel like a problem for these is the fact most are kids, And a lot of people who become toxic haven’t been through that cycle yet, myself for example was extremely toxic and abusive when I was 9 to a good friend up until I lost her, and i thought she was in the wrong. Hence once I realised I had to revaluate myself and fix my issues to the best I can, these people haven’t been through their “I was in the wrong” stage yet and it shows, this stage can come early or really late in life depending on the person, and you can’t really get through to them, usually you can try guide them but the only one who can fix them is themselves.

Hey float, ive noticed its been a while since you’ve drawn in your thumbnail , i know you just got this shiny new vtuber model but i just want you to know that your art is really great and you should keep doing it!

I feel if I were to ever become famous and accidentally mess up, I’d apologize. I’d get rid of the video that was bad, or leave it up but make a note that I apologize for it and have made a proper apology video. I try to be good, especially online, but sometimes I slip up and things go bad. I know no one’s perfect, but everyone is capable of doing the right thing when they make a mistake.

One of those ppl im the video always does this btw, it’s not just the sub count, they just uses it to shield themselves

Flo is a Gachatuber who never lets fame get to her head. Stay that way Flo!!

Looks like I am early for the first time 😊❤❤

There's the other side of me, to keep posting to reach the top, or just barely post to not reach the top.. I agree with you, fame can get into your head if not used properly.